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Joseph Edward Duncan III

A glimpse into the mind of a psychopath via his own blog

Joseph E Duncan

Dylan (9) and (8) had been missing since May 16, when the bound and bludgeoned bodies of their mother, older brother, and the mother’s boyfriend were found at their home.

Early Saturday, employees and customers spotted Shasta eating breakfast with , a violent sexual predator, at a Denny’s restaurant in Coeur d’Alene, Idaho. A waitress and a customer called 911, and the waitress was able to stall Duncan until police arrived.

A recently discovered videotape shows Shasta and Duncan at a store hours before she was rescued at Denny’s, and an officer said it looks as if the 8-year-old girl was trying to get someone to recognize her.

As a level 3 sex offender, he spent 14 years in a Washington state prison after raping a 14-year-old boy at gunpoint in Tacoma.

Last year, he was charged with sexually molesting a 6-year-old boy at a playground in Detroit Lakes, Minn. He appeared in court in April on the charge and was released after posting a $15,000 bond.

Duncan then left the area without notifying authorities.

Today, Shasta told police that Duncan repeatedly raped both her and her little brother.

Well, it turns out that Duncan was an aspiring blogger when he wasn’t out raping and kidnapping little children. You can bet that the contents of his blog, FifthNail, will be used as evidence in his trial.

Duncan started his blog on January 4, 2004, and wrote his last post on May 13, 2005 — ominously, just three days before he kidnapped Shasta and Duncan.

I spent some time last night and this evening reading through Duncan’s blog, and it’s a terrifying glimpse into the mind of a serial sex offender, rapist, kidnapper, and likely serial murderer.

I’m certain that Duncan’s blog will be taken down soon, so I’ve excerpted some of the revealing posts (with my thoughts and comments):

  • Sunday, January 04, 2004 — It Begins — Just found out that a five year old girl went missing from Chisholm MN on June 14, 2003 (this year). I did not even know until today that this happened. So, I tried to figure out what I was doing that day, since I’m always afraid of getting accused when something like this happens.
  • Duncan started his blog so that he could record and have evidence of his whereabouts in case he was ever suspected of another child molestation. It is not surprising that Duncan had taken an interest in other child molestation and abduction cases.

  • Thursday, January 22, 2004 — That got me thinking on the way driving to work this morning. What is it that I want to convey to these people? What valuable idea would I instill upon those who stumble across this digital path I am foraging? I’m not sure actually, except I know it has something to do with letting them know that we are siblings; that deep down (or “way up” if you prefer), on a level few have ever imagined and even fewer have experienced, we are the same.
  • One of the binding themes throughout Duncan’s writing is his belief that all members of a society have a shared responsibility for each others behaviors. This was simply his way of justifying his actions without taking responsibility for them.

    But Duncan was very wrong about many of his premises, mostly so in his belief that we are siblings and that we are anything alike. Duncan, you are a rare type of monster, and you are the one thing you most fear: alone.

  • Saturday, January 31, 2004 — I realize now who this blog is really for. It is for me. That explains why I so doggedly insist on painstakingly making entry after entry, even though I know no one is ever going to read it. Now I understand why it seems so important to me. This blog is my connection to who I am and who I am becoming. It is a way for me to connect to who I was, so I can better understand who I will become. Just like the guy in the movie The Butterfly Effect, I can’t explain, so why do I even try. Because I know what I know, and that is all anyone can know.
  • Duncan, once again, is prophetically wrong. By the time his trial is finished, I imagine hundreds of thousands—if not millions—of people will scrutinize and agonize over every single word of this blog.

  • Sunday, March 21, 2004 — No, I have not stopped updating this blog. I’ve just been very busy with the move and all, I really should place a higher priority on making daily entries to this blog even though no one ever reads it, it is still a valuable check and balance for my daily activities for when the day comes when I am accused of some crime I did not do. I know it will come, it is just a matter of time.
  • I think more than being afraid of being accussed of a crime he has not committed, Duncan is afraid of the day when he will prey on another young child. Because he knows it is just a matter of time.

  • Monday, April 05, 2004 — Yesterday a friend told me that I was an exception to the rule when it comes to his “experience with sex offenders.” He meant it as a complimentary comment, implying that most sex offenders only think about re-offending. It was not the first time I have been offended by comments that were meant well. The truth is that I am not an exception, I am the rule! Most sex offenders are just like me, not at all concerned about re-offending since the idea is not even in the realm of possibilities to them.
  • Yes, Duncan, most sex offenders are just like you. And, like you, most will re-offend. Whatever it is in a person that allows them to sexually molest a child will always be within them. While you were trying to convince yourself or your readers that re-offending was not “even in the realm of possiblities” for you, you had to already know that it was indeed very much within the realm of possiblities for you.

  • Thursday, December 30, 2004 — The truth is however that choices are always made as a direct reflection of the environment the choice is made in. So, if you are part of the environment in which a choice is made, then you are just as responsible for that choice as the person making it, many times even more responsible. I don’t expect everyone to understand this concept, it requires letting go of many reassuring delusions, like the belief in “right” and “wrong.”
  • Duncan continues to reiterate his belief that we, as a society, have failed him, and thus, we are equally culpable for his actions. The reason, Duncan, that we don’t get this concept, is because we know that there is a “right” and a “wrong”. And raping and killing small children will always be one of the most horrendous “wrongs” imaginable.

  • Sunday, January 30, 2005 — Keep your eyes on the air waves, Jerry, I could be famous sooner than you think, but hopefully not too soon.
  • Another prophetic entry from Duncan, who is now more infamous than he might ever have imagined.

  • Friday, April 15, 2005 — The Boogyman Will Get Ya — So, I’ve been accused of molesting a little boy. Those close to me know I didn’t do it of course, how could I, I’m not even a pedophile. Well, I’m not a psychopath either, I feel the full force and pain of everyone I have ever hurt, but that doesn’t stop me from doing what I need to do. Ultimately my feelings don’t matter, I learned that in prison. I have to carry out my orders or a lot worse than just me dying could happen.
  • Duncan has startled wrestling verbally with his demons. He doesn’t believe that he is a pedophile because he thinks that he is rescuing these children. This entry is one of the first of many posts-to-come that forewarns of Duncan’s plans to do something truly evil.

  • Sunday, April 24, 2005 — Only two people in the world have a clue as to the power and nature of my demons (besides me) and they will probably never read this. But just the same, these demons are stronger than even I gave them credit for, and now they are taking my best blows and not even staggering. I’m afraid, very afraid. If they win then a lot of people will be badly hurt, and they’ve had their way before, so I know what they can do.
  • Here, three weeks before he abducted the Groene children, Duncan is admitting that he has committed these crimes in the past, and that he is no longer able to stop them from happeing again.

    This is the one post, had it been read by the authorities who were supposed to be monitoring him, that should have sent up red flags, and should have been reason enough to re-arrest him or put him under close surveillance.

  • Wednesday, May 11, 2005 — To be more specific, I am scared, alone, and confused, and my reaction is to strike out toward the perceived source of my misery, society. My intent is to harm society as much as I can, then die.

    I was in prison for over 18 years, since the age of 17. As an adult all I knew was the oppression of incarceration. All those years I dreamed of getting out…And getting even. Instead, I got out and I got even, but did not get caught. So, I got even again, and again did not get caught. So, I figured, well, I got even twice (actually more, but that’s here nor there), even if I’m the only one who knows, so now what?

  • Alarmingly, Duncan confesses to re-offending and not getting numerous times since his release from prison. Again, where are the authorities who are supposed to be monitoring this monster? Everything they needed to find and stop Duncan can be found in his writings in this blog.

    And even more alarming, is that in only five more days, Duncan will fulfill his prophecy to “harm society as much as” he can.

  • Friday, May 13, 2005 — I am scared, alone, and confused, and my reaction is to strike out toward the perceived source of my misery, society. My intent is to harm society as much as I can, then die.
  • Two days before he kills the Groene family and abducts their children and the last day that he will ever write in his blog, Duncan reaffirms his plan to harm society as much as he can. The saddest part of this post? There was still time for anybody who was reading to stop him.

  • Friday, May 13, 2005 — As far as “taking people with me” well, I don’t know if that is right or wrong. In fact, I don’t know much any more what right and wrong even is.

    I wish I could be more honest about my feelings, but those demons made sure I’d never be able to do that. I might not know if it matters, but just in case, I am working on an encrypted journal that is hundreds of times more frank than this blog could ever be (that’s why I keep it encrypted). I figure in 30 years or more we will have the technology to easily crack the encryption (currently very un-crackable, PGP) and then the world will know who I really was, and what I really did, and what I really thought. Also, maybe then they will understand that despite my actions, I’m not a bad person, I just have a disease contracted from society, and it hurts a lot.

    I hope to complete this journal before I die (soon) or turn myself in (I still might do that, I think it is the right thing, but of course, I’m not sure).

  • This is Duncan’s last post, in its entirety. It is chilling in its foretelling of his plans. And once again, he tries to justify his actions to himself by blaming society.

    Is there another, more detailed encrypted journal? Does it contain the details of his crimes that he only alludes to here?

    I believe that Duncan already knows that he is on the bring of his plan to “harm society”. Had he already selected his victims? Did he plan to kill the family, or did they get in the way of his plan to kidnap the two youngest children? And the biggest question that remains is what happened to little Dylan?

This is why I believe so strongly in the death penalty. This man should be put on trial tomorrow. The only witness required will be young Shasta. The trial and sentencing combined should last about 10 minutes. And the moment that his death sentence is handed down to him, he should be taken outside and shot between the eyes.

Discussion

51 comments for “Joseph Edward Duncan III”

  1. I’m surprised he hasn’t exceeded his bandwidth. He has a couple of other websites, too. And vidios:

    http://www.zippyvideos.com/203987334553055.html

    http://www.zippyvideos.com/8543279553855.html

    I’m curious as to where he got the money to live on and to support his hobbies.

    Posted by 2 | July 5, 2005, 11:19 pm
  2. That is incredible bizarre and quite chilling…

    Posted by JamesBurnham | July 6, 2005, 3:51 am
  3. According to his resume, he was a software developer at Invie Consulting, Inc. and a Research Developer at North Dakota State University, Computer Science Department.

    (His resume is no longer available on the NDSU Web site, but as all things on the Internet, it’s available in the archives.)

    Posted by Robbie | July 6, 2005, 7:53 am
  4. I’ve written my own comments and given you the requisite hat tip.

    Posted by Trevor | July 6, 2005, 10:42 am
  5. According to his resume, he was a software developer at Invie Consulting, Inc. and a Research Developer at North Dakota State University, Computer Science Department.

    Don’t they do background checks? Or at least ask if you’ve ever been convicted of a crime? Look for gaps in employment?

    Posted by 2 | July 7, 2005, 3:47 am
  6. What a sick individual! Death penalty comes too easy for this sicko! He needs to suffer as those children has suffered. Ultimately, he will pay for his crimes. God will make sure of that.

    Posted by Niki | July 7, 2005, 3:54 pm
  7. I’m just speechless and sad that such a monster walks among us.

    Posted by Terri | July 8, 2005, 7:31 pm
  8. Yah this is quite bizzare. I actually met the guy, he was in my Computer Science class…seemed normal and quite intelligent. He was in charge of the communication aspect of our virtual operating system and after his alegation of molesting a 6 yearold boy he was gone and we had to finish his part of the project which we barely did. Who woulda known.

    Posted by NDSU Student | July 8, 2005, 8:07 pm
  9. Wannabe famous, insignificant person with serious sexual deviancy issues whose trying to pass himself off as this deep intellectual who should be immortalized along with all the other week beings who can’t function in society so they prey on children. As a child who did horrible things to essentially another child and went to prison to be victimized by others, he was not expected to do anything different than what he did. Our system has failed children horribly on both sides (good & evil) so he is right about us being responsible, we should have strung that waste of flesh up at sixteen and called it a day. If we are not going to seriously monitor these people, then we need to exterminate or indefinitely incarcerate and protect the children we can.

    Posted by Dallasite | July 8, 2005, 9:08 pm
  10. This man should have the death penatly…look at what the courts have already let him get away with..he should have never even got to post bail.. and none of this could have happened… there has to be more victims..just look at his blog..he keeps saying he did bad things and nothing happened so he just kept doing it cause of the demons.. demons my butt..that is just an excuse …let him rot til the day he dies.. Either death pentaly or hopefully someone in the jail will….sick freak…

    Posted by Amanda | July 8, 2005, 9:33 pm
  11. [...] tart. Perhaps the FBI should hire Steve as a Crime Blogging consultant? *** RELATED: A glimpse into the mind of a psychopath via his own blog Resume of a Psychopath [...]

    Posted by UrbanGrounds » Blog Archive » Joseph Edward Duncan III — Other Victims | July 8, 2005, 10:11 pm
  12. I am praying for this evil man. He has hurt many and reflects the evil that exists in this world. The death penalty or rotting in jail will be child’s play compared to an eternity in Hell.

    Posted by Paul | July 9, 2005, 12:52 am
  13. Good analysis. I was struck by this killer’s feelings of “victmhood.” Alas, all too common in today’s society. Our constitutional government was instituted to PROTECT our right to the persuit of happiness. Of course we can’t know what is in the hearts and minds of humans, but once an evil is identified, the cancer should be removed immediately and permanently. Funny we don’t hesitate to euthanize a rabid dog once it has attacked. Why not give the dog a SECOND CHANCE? Sheesh! That family should be alive and well today, had governemnt entities done the job they are paid to do.

    Posted by Sandee Enriquez | July 9, 2005, 3:20 pm
  14. [...] he Fifth Nail suomennos omani Törmäsin sattumalta myös noihin mainittuihin videoihin (UrbanGrounds-blogin kommenteissa). Ne ovat jonkinlaisia musiikkivideomaisia, lyhyitä [...]

    Posted by marginaali » Blogi viidennestä naulasta | July 10, 2005, 1:52 pm
  15. this is a piece of crap that needs to be delt with like all crap flush the first time dont wait till he stops the commode up with more…….crap

    Posted by mike | July 10, 2005, 9:39 pm
  16. [...] but hopefully it will culminate in his execution as quickly as possible. *** RELATED: A glimpse into the mind of a psychopath via his own blog Resume of a Psychopath Joseph Edward Dun [...]

    Posted by UrbanGrounds » Blog Archive » Dylan Groene’s Remains Identified | July 11, 2005, 11:46 am
  17. So much has been said about what this man did; so little has been said about WHY.

    Posted by Mike | July 11, 2005, 10:33 pm
  18. He is a a monster. he should have never been freed I also blame the courts he is horrible there are for letting he free. may he and the judge rot in hell. he deserved to die a millon times over still that is not enough……
    rot in hell monster………

    Posted by Hanan | July 12, 2005, 8:24 am
  19. Hanan — you bring up an interesting point that I think will become another story entirely unto itself: the culpability of District Judge Thomas Schroeder and the prosecutor who released Duncan, thus allowing him to commit these horrendous crimes.

    Judge Schroeder’s claim that he was unaware of Duncan’s past record is sickening. He should be immediately removed from the bench pending a quick investigation. Since there is no excuse for his ignorance, the investigation should take no longer than 5 minutes. At which point, he should be permanently barred from ever practicing law again.

    Posted by Robbie | July 12, 2005, 10:16 am
  20. I hope that he gets killed in jail !!!!! They should execute him and donate his organs to people who are on organ donation waiting lists. You can never bring back the innocent people he killed, but at least you could save some other lives.

    And as for the idiot who fronted the $15,000.00 for bail, what a freaki’n moron. I’d like to meet him, and give him some sob story and get some of his money.

    Scum bags who rape and kill children should be shot on site. It would be no big loss to society !!!

    Better yet, why not use scum bags who are on death row as human crash test dummies, or use them for medical expiermentation ? Hell, if they’re on death row anyhow, just don’t feed the mother fu.#ers and let them starve to death !!!

    Posted by kill scumbag criminals | July 12, 2005, 2:46 pm
  21. YES…. Many counselors/psychologists will tell you that “child molestors” are one of the most difficult mental conditions to treat or correct. Any legal professional allowing this “Duncan-Scum” to go free should know that. If they don’t….. they have no right to be in their “high-paid” lofty positions. I say we publish the name of every judge, attorney, prosecutor, warden, etc etc etc who EVER let this “gutless punk” walk out of a legal facility. They DO NOT belong in such important positions. Funny how our government can track a calf from the time it was born until it is slaughtered for beef… but they don’t know who the pedophiles are or where they are at.

    Posted by Market | July 12, 2005, 9:28 pm
  22. I cried over and over again this morning after reading how this MONSTER bragged to Shasta how he killed her family then the bastard had the nerve to show that child the bloody hammer he used to kill them. Shasta said Duncan said when he saw her and Dylan playing in the pool with their swim suites on he knew he had to have them, that he stalked the family for three days using night vision goggles to look into their home and watch the family. Shasta and Dylan saw their 13 year old brother stumble to the door bleeding profusely from the head they called for him to come and un-tie them. My GOD in HEAVEN WHY! I just don’t know sometimes I wish that GOD would start all over again the EVIL that exist on this Plant is just mind blowing. We do live among DEMONS and Joseph Edward Duncan I can’t wait until you go back to HELL!

    Posted by Daja | July 13, 2005, 11:03 am
  23. [...] ho would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers — Ezekiel 25:17 *** RELATED: A glimpse into the mind of a psychopath via his own blog Resume of a Psychopath Joseph Edward Dun [...]

    Posted by UrbanGrounds » Blog Archive » Joseph Edward Duncan III — Stalked Groene Family | July 13, 2005, 12:31 pm
  24. I agree with Daja. I have cried for days on end over this case. It is with me when I go to sleep and with me when I awake. I would have given anything to be there and get that predator off those kids and save that famiy. This is pathetic. Dylan’s little face follows me everywhere and is in my heart and mind no matter what I am doing. This crime was useless and completely unacceptable. I too wish God would just turn back the hands of time RIGHT NOW and stop this whole senseless thing from taking place. It never should have happened, ever. I know I’m going on and on but it is just what keeps replaying in my head over and over and over again. I so wanted Dylan to be found alive. Duncan should be thrown into the GP and tortured for hours and hours – days and days. This is terrible. I don’t know if my tears for this family will ever dry up. I have found myself questioning everything I ever believed in. Everything. This is a horrible tragedy. I will never NEVER be the same. Ever. -Donna L.

    Posted by Donna | July 13, 2005, 7:40 pm
  25. This man deserves a hollowpoint between his eyes. He is an example of a waste of life. Instead of living, instead of giving him a chance to live in jail, instead of us wasting our precious tax dollars to keep this sick fuck in jail, let the victim’s families bash his brains in with a hammer–after they use a shotgun to shoot his knee caps and his elbows and the rest of his joints.

    This means is cost efficient. Let the rage of the family, the communities, and everyone else release hell on this sick bastard.

    Posted by The Moralist | July 13, 2005, 8:25 pm
  26. A hollowpoint between his eyes is too good for this beast. His genitals should be cut off (like in other countries). Taxpayers should not be forced to feed him in jail either.

    Posted by raven | July 16, 2005, 12:39 pm
  27. I say castrate the bastard, then shoot him, just to make him squirm, then set him on fire, like he did Dylan, and let him think about how it felt!!! Nothing else is good enough for this inhumane putrid creature.

    Posted by Jennie | July 16, 2005, 4:18 pm
  28. I have cried over Dylan, Slade, Brenda and Mark too so many times. The first time I saw Dylan’s sweet smiling face he reminded me of my son, same grin, same age, ht, weight. And reading his brother’s description of little Dylan, he describes the sweet, sensitive boy that is just like my son, such an angel. I take heart that I’m Christian and I know this family is in a better place and comforting each other. The justice system failed this family and that’s why I’m so very very angry not to mention very sad. This could happen to any of us and our children and we can’t forget that. The liberal piece of crap judge in MN that let this garbage out on $15,000 bail needs to beg (what’s left) of this family’s forgiveness for his tragic error in judgement. He needs to be held responsible except for the responsibility that still needs to lie with the same errant system that let JEDIII out on previous crimes. I’m sick of these liberal judges forcing us to live in the same neighborhoods with these perverted pieces of crap. I live across the street from one of these creeps and he has stalked me and my children, has been arrested but the charges NEVER hold up and he still gets to live across the street and harass us. This perverted POS sits and watches my house at night, always drunk. He was arrested for looking in our windows, in possession of a knife, rubber gloves, used condom, plastic female sex organs. Any charges??? Hell no, he lives in Mesquite TX, it’s all ok here!! Just a good ole’ boy having fun on a Sunday night! I bet the judge and him had a beer and laughed about it. This pervert’s obviously a pedophile and the police dept has tried but has been helpless in getting this creep convicted because the Judge thinks he’s harmless. Well, Mr. Judge, why don’t you move this sick fuck across the street from you and your family?? Will you take action if he’s caught looking through your windows at your daughter or wife?? I thought so. If we end up like the Groene’s will you reconsider charges against this pervert? God Bless you.

    As far as JEDIII, I say give Shasta and Dylan’s older brothers their own claw hammers and turn them loose on JEDIII. Maybe ram a railroad tie up his ass first. Justice will be served.

    Posted by victim | July 17, 2005, 1:54 am
  29. Isn’t it amazing that our society and judicial system still hasn’t learned that there is no cure for pedophilia. To “rehabilitate” a pedophile is impossible. It would be akin to counseling a heterosexual into being a homosexual. This is what pedophiles do–abduct, assault and kill children. I have never heard of a successful rehabilitation of a pedophile. They hide in a secret society, behind a wife just as many gay men choose to do…to maintain an air of normalcy and for the sake of our society. But the urge is still there and the next crime is there and just waiting for the opportune moment to become a reality. And then we will shake our heads in horror and wonder how this could have happened yet again. We, as a society, need to recognize the reality and to work to change the laws. People like Mr. Duncan should never be released to prey again on the innocent. Once identified, perhaps these offenders should be all housed together, where they may prey on each other for the rest of their reality.

    Posted by lunchhooks | July 20, 2005, 2:32 pm
  30. I can not even imagine the hell Shasta and Dylan Groene went through the night they were taken from their home by a sick piece of crap known as Joseph Duncan. This monster should have never been out on the streets in the 1st place. But thanks to 1 man known as “Judge” Thomas P Scroeder who set bail so low, he made it all happen. I hope that this man can sleep at night knowing a family has been murdered, 2 very young children were molested repeatedly and a 9 year old boy was shot then set on fire. In my opinion Mr. Scroeder is just as responsible. If he had done his job Dylan Groene would have celebrated his 10th birthday last Saturday and Shasta and Steve Groene would still have a brother and a son. I really hope that Steve Groene sues the hell out of Mr. Scroeder and the Duncan family for the wrongful death of Dylan, Brenda, Slade, and Mark. These type of judges do not need to be sitting on any benches in any courts. We do not need more Joseph Duncan’s roaming freely on the streets. Our children need to be safe.

    Posted by Elizabeth | July 21, 2005, 3:49 am
  31. The lump that swelled in my throut to hear of the trama that Shasta had under gone and to image this little girl growing up and living with her past. A past that no child should ever have to live with. Her child inosence was stolen from her. Why do people want to hurt others. Can’t they just take their own lives and take themselves out of their own misery rather than creating such trama for others. I pray that pedophiles out their realize all that they take from the children and their families. I honestly pray too that our government will take the measures necessary to track sex offenders.

    Posted by hurt | July 21, 2005, 6:39 pm
  32. YOU KNOW ITS REALLY UNBELIEVEABLE THAT ANYONE COULD ACTUALLY BE SO SICK LIKE THIS. TO HURT A CHILD A ANGEL THAT IS SO INOCENT. THIS GUY SHOULD OF NEVER BEEN LET OUT OF PRISON!! AND WHEN HE DID IT THE SECOND TIME HE SHOUD OF NOT HAD A BOND!!! ITS THE JUDGES FAULT FOR NOT LOOKING INTO THE RECORDS OF THIS SICK PERSON…
    FOR WHAT HE DID TO THESE CHILDREN AND THERE FAMILY HE SHOULD BE TORTURED EVERYDAY TILL THE DAY HE DIES… THEY HAD NO CHOICE TO WHAT HE DID TO THEM , SO WHY SHOULD HE HAVE A CHOICE TO WHAT HAPPENS TO HIM. HIS A WASTE OF TAX PAYERS MONEY TO LET HIM SET IN JAIL. WHY SHOULD WE PROVIDE ANYTHING FOR HIM. JUST GET RID OF THIS SICK SICK FUCKER !!!

    Posted by KELLY ( INDIDNA ) | July 22, 2005, 4:28 pm
  33. No question: Duncan has to be put away from the society. But I am horrified by the comments of all these honorable american people in a country with a very long tradition of freedom and democracy. It’s absolutely abhorrent to read the ideas and propositions how to kill a delinquent. It’s a shame to publish such statements of MORALISTS. What’s moral?

    Posted by Tellis | July 25, 2005, 4:22 pm
  34. [...] Worse than Joseph Edward Duncan III? [...]

    Posted by UrbanGrounds » Blog Archive » The Worst Person in the World | November 27, 2005, 1:31 pm
  35. I am actually researching this sick twisted freak because I’m trying to adapt him into a fictional character for a film for class. Though he tries to sound intelligent in his blogs, he is remarkably easy to break down: He is a failure in society and possesses no special gifts. As a child he had hope that diminished when he became an adult, and therefore envies children who still have hope. He is as envious as he is crazy and a man like him should not be placed in a society as good as our’s.

    I am also avidly against the death penalty, as I do not believe the state should have the right to kill people because there is always at least a one in one million chance that they are innocent. However this scum kept track of it, and published it on the internet as though he was almost proud of it. I find it hard to be against the death penalty in a case as obviously heinous as this one. I consider myself to be a passive and non-violent person, but I must admit that I almost wish I could have seen him walking down the street and just kick the sicko’s ass.

    Posted by nyu student | February 28, 2006, 9:43 pm
  36. http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/2709246 is the address for a clip at ifilm.com, it is a preview for a movie based on the blog of Joseph Duncan.

    Posted by RupertK | April 4, 2006, 2:34 am
  37. Hey Duncan you said you would harm poeple and then die so when are you going to die I hpoe real soon see ya in HELL

    Posted by tom | July 20, 2006, 4:57 pm
  38. As a Christian I should not say that but Duncan is such scum ,I can’t control myself. That was a nice family you killed for your own sick sexual satisfaction. You should have got help you sick bastard ,now a nice girl has her life ruined forever and her sweet baby brother is dead

    Posted by tom | July 20, 2006, 5:01 pm
  39. THE STATE’S TAKING OF A LIFE VIA THE DEATH PENALITY IS UNACCEPTABLE.
    IF MR. DUNCAN IS CONVICTED, HE SHOULD BE SENT TO A MENTAL CARE FACILITY FOR PROPER TREATMENT. ONLY AFTER COMPLETING THE MENTAL HEALTH EVALUATIONS SHOULD HE BE CONSIDERED FOR RELEASE,.

    Posted by CD | September 6, 2006, 9:04 pm
  40. People like Duncan are not treatable. They will always re-offend. It is idiots who think that they are treatable that are responsible for these pedophiles being released back into communities to re-offend. It is wonderful that people are kind-hearted and want to give these evil people another chance and then another and another, all because they want to believe that somewhere deep down there must be some good. However, it is not fair to the next victims and totally uncalled for. Once they have raped or molested an innocent child, they should not ever be allowed to be free again, much less have access to repeat their offense.

    Posted by george | October 17, 2006, 11:28 pm
  41. Let him who is without sin cast the first stone…

    You pray for him to be tortured and killed, and fail to see to see the sin in what you do. A horrible crime was commited, no doubt about it, but they happen every day — all around the world.

    Look at Sudan, look at Indonesia, look at Myanmar. Look at the world around you. You are the “fortunate few”. 28 Million children die globally from easily curable diseases each year . Do you cry for them? Do you point your fingers at the World Bank, Pfizer, or your own Government, and order them to lower prices on the outdated medicines they sell to african countries? Delete their debt? Do you offer to lower your quality of life so others can “get their share”?

    I didn’t think so… Hypocritical, self-righteous *****.

    Consider this:

    The world as ten children

    If we could reduce the whole human race to 10 children sitting around a table:
    3 would have plates that are heaped so high that they will never possibly finish what is there.
    2 will just about manage to live by scavenging what is thrown away from the three.
    3 will be permanently hungry
    2 will die, one of dysentery and one of pneumonia.

    I wonder if God was at this table what would he say? I imagine he would sit with tears in his eyes as he watched his children. He loves each child equally, but his heart would be broken. He would look with compassion on those with no food. He provided enough food for them all. If only they would share it would be so simple, but the three with full plates are more interested in seeing how large they can make their plates. One of them hears a cry from the end of the table. He looks down to see a child, skinny and bony pleading for help. He shakes his head and says:

    “That is awful! Somebody should do something”.

    We’re all sinners in this world. We’re all murderers. The difference is that you sit there ignorant of your own crimes and chew away on your five meals a day, wondering how you’re going to lose the 100 lbs you’ll gain over Christmas.

    It’s disgusting.

    Posted by librejustitia | October 18, 2006, 3:26 pm
  42. Well, it is October 31, 2007… approximately 1 year later since the last blog was entered above. It would appear that the Joseph Duncan, III has all but been forgotten.

    I agree with the previous post. But on a more specific note, it is horrific what Duncan did, and we could sit around all day and conjecture why he did it, what was done to him, what created this monster, was it innate, or developed, did it stem from his uncle raping him or was it the prison time?

    Then, we could imagine and order up (as mentioned above) various sinister punishments, ugly tortures, like ball cutting, hammer beating, fire setting–all HEINOUS TREATMENTS, if you will, be inflicted on Duncan, and then, as a final blow, letting him starve to death.

    My point? Like the previous post, this does not bring back the deceased, and if it makes any of you feel better to know that such things were done “back” to the predator (Duncan), or worse, to participate in watching these inflictions being done to Duncan, then I am not sure if you are much different than Duncan himself.

    The thing is, while I am NOT glad these horrible things happened to the victims, I am neither any happier knowing that such acts would be repeated to the perpetrator. I know it seems like this is the only way the perpetrator might “learn”, or the only way he will understand what horrible things he did, but let us remind ourselves that he is not all there. Remember! He is SICK. He is retarded. He is incapable of really understanding or even controlling his actions.

    I am not in any way dismissing his actions, or suggesting that he has no responsibility for his acts–hell no. I just want to bring to light that he can not be expected to perform in a responsible manner when he is so mentally handicapped to begin with.

    Now, I am not advocating that he be set free, or that he be told, “no problem,” of course, I don’t think that.

    Simply, recognize that it is screwed up, but then don’t go out and behave just as screwed up as Duncan is! Call a spade a spade, cage the spade if need be, to protect innocent victims, and then sort out what is really going on here. Hmmmmm….

    The guy (Duncan) is a killer, rapist, etc., and he can not be trusted to be “in” society, at least “out” roaming freely. He has already proven he will harm left unsupervised.

    Now, has he done society wrong? Yep. Okay, then what is the cost of such offenses. Hmmm, he should be put to death. He does society no good. He only costs and takes up space. He can’t ever be let loose, or he will just do it again. So? It sounds like he needs to cease and desist. Well, that’s what dying means, to cease and desist. It seems an appropriate action. For what good does it do to continue to live and exist in a cage (prison) until one dies of natural causes (say of old age)?

    It does no good for anyone.

    As far as wanting him to be treated this way, or that, you don’t need to worry about that at all.

    You see, there is no death. Think of dying as traveling. We go to another place–we just don’t get to pack any suitcases (i.e. we don’t take our physical body).

    Rest assured, there IS no death. When we pass on, we just change places and form. But as far as “dying”, well sure, we are dead, i.e. our physical bodies die, but “we” do not die. We just change forms.

    And for those that have committed such heinous crimes, their state, their existence, their “after life”, well, don’t worry. It is not a bed of roses, and it is far worse than any ball cutting activity or hammer banging event could ever be.

    How do I know this? I died, and came back to life.

    I visited “hell” although it is not called hell, and I visited heaven (nor is it called heaven). Long story short, every man, woman and yes, monster, continues to exist, and for those that did not improve while here, well, they “get” to continue to improve over there… but the time of payment is longer, like eons longer.

    Suggestion: Don’t curse the cursed. Don’t harm the inflicted. Don’t hate and seek acts of hate to be inflicted on horrible people. It does not help you, it does not help the victims, and it does not “improve” the sick (perpetrators).

    What it does do, is keep you from understanding the very point of why you being here… which is to learn to ____________. (I think you can figure out the blank on your own.)

    The thing is, if you seek vengeance, then you only harm yourself. So, please, when a Duncan comes along and the horrible crimes that come with it, do seek to understand, and do recognize their is grief and sorrow in such tragedies, but DO NOT seek to deliver the same sick act to the perpetrator because that only pulls you down, and keeps you on the same level.

    And this, especially if you are involved with meting out such actions to such losers, you too will be “stuck” just as they are “stuck” in “hell”.

    As mentioned before, the place is not called hell. It is called Sorrow. For it is place of only sorrow. And here’s the kicker, those that dwell there, do so for many, many, many, many eons, such that sorrow is all they ever know.

    You see, before we came here, each of us were, so-to-speak, already in a state of specific damnation. Some more than others, and some not at all. We knew that in coming here we would have the absolute power to intensify our state, be it even more freedom or more bondage (damnation).

    Put another way, we knew we would have the ultimate power to increase our joy, or damn it even more so.

    Now, it is hard to comprehend why anyone would want to increase their damnation, but the best way I can explain it, is to say, that that is their “joy”. And the intriguing thing? The combination of the two, works out well to create an environment where by both parties benefit. You (assuming you want joy) are challenged with ugly circumstances (murders, rapists, etc.) which gives you a place to overcome the instinct to feel hatred. And Duncan (assuming his joy is watching others suffer) is allowed to heighten his “joy”.

    So, even tho’ it “sucks” (the whole earthly situation of joy and sorrow), the two actually benefit eac. End result? The Duncans serve a purpose for us, and we serve a purpose for the Duncans.

    Bottom line? We can progress, and ultimately receive joy (as we know it) that will be greatly intensified at the end of this earthly experience, AND the Duncans of the world will return to Sorrow and their “joy” as they know it, will also be intensified.

    I know its “not fun” to know this, and that’s why most of us don’t know it. But honestly? If you understand this, then you can find comfort in knowing that “it’s all good” and such knowledge can serve a very worthy function: You can find solace, and know that while your tears are genuine, everything really does work together for good.

    And remember! the most important thing you can do while here on earth, is refuse to hate. Refuse to indulge yourself in the same heinous thoughts and actions that you believe others are guilty of.

    Just don’t go there. Have emotion, live with passion, and for sure, enjoy the human experience. But avoid, if at all possible, angry words, hatred, and seeking vengeance.

    Seek understanding, have compassion, and walk away from the drama of life so that you can save the price of keeping yourself on the same level of the Sorrowful.

    (See previous post…) God does allow the 2 children at the table to scavenger for food, the 3 to be permanently hungry and 2 to die.

    Not because God is heartless, but because God knows it must be this way for all of us to be improved.

    The reason there are so many problems on this earth, is because the counter part of every problem is an opportunity. Without problems there would be little or no opportunity. Opportunity gives to each of us a chance to intensify our understanding, be it good or bad.

    Thank God for the opportunity that life gives us, and Thank God for His infinite wisdom that affords us all such a chance.

    When we were given the chance to come to earth, we were elated because at that time we understood the value of such opportunity. Unfortunately, all of us “forgot” and now spend much of our time cursing the very opportunity that we were so grateful to receive.

    We need to go back and think about how bored we would be, and how useless the meaning of life would be without the diversity, the challenge and the sense of “reality” that gives us the need to act, breath and think.

    Without such need, we would just sit around and do nothing. The reason why we came here at this time is because we wanted the greatest opportunity or the most bang for our buck.

    These (the opportunities of life) need to be celebrated–not hated. Let us all remember that we choose daily our problems that we either solve or stay stuck in. We have the power to triumph or the chance to fail. This “is” in itself an incredible thing. Without such possibility, that would take the “real” out of the word reality, and our very existence would be pointless. We come to this earth with a fleshy, physical body that we may feel, sense, taste, touch and experience. Don’t throw away the very thing that we all begged for by crying and asking, “Why doesn’t God DO something?”

    If he did, then “WE” would be back to where we started, OPPORTUNITY–LESS.

    You will notice that the earth will fall apart even more so, the people will become even more “wild” doing even more heinous acts that even you can imagine. It will most definitely become more and more and even MORE challenging, “this” is what we have already seen.

    But guess what? Those who are being born, are increasingly even more intelligent and more capable of harvesting the very opportunities (difficulties) that are unfolding before our very eyes.

    And just as it should be. So, in conclusion, don’t worry be happy.

    It’s all good, and the plan is working.

    And finally…

    Did you ever stop and think,
    When you are on the edge or brink,
    Of personally concluding,
    That your problems are too eluding,

    That try as you may,
    At the end of each day,
    You are sure your gonna die,
    Regardless of how much you try?

    And that no matter what you do,
    Or how much your life ensues,
    You always seem to make it,
    Even tho’ you only fake it?

    And when you can bear no more cuz your at your wit’s end
    Your troubles seem to vanish, or their cured and they mend.

    And when you look back over time, you can really begin to see,
    That everything little thing in life is useful ultimately.

    For just when you thought that God could not possibly exist,
    It dawns on you, He’s never really left, rather it is you that must persist.

    For that in itself is why you came to dwell on earth,
    To seek out new horizons that began at your birth,
    And even tho’ you think life’s hell and you wish you hadn’t come,
    It sometimes takes intense misery, to appreciate the fun.

    So when you’re feeling sad and blue, cuz life has let you down,
    Take the power that you possess, and turn it right around.
    Wield your power carefully and watch your life unfold,
    Too all the joy your heart can feel and all your hands can hold.

    But wield that power carefully cuz like a knife it cuts both ways,
    Left unattended and unguided, it will hurt and it will tase.

    Don’t give into evil hatred, or its partner “angry words”
    Control your thoughts and actions and don’t follow the mindless herds.

    Take pride in all you say and do, and watch and you will see,
    Your life will form into what you want, if you act responsibly.

    You came to earth for one single purpose, and that was to find joy,
    Don’t waste your chance to gain that blessing, your life is not a toy,

    Dig in, get up, do it today, don’t wait until till tomorrow,
    For those that do, and waste their life, return to only Sorrow.

    Poem Inspired by Kory’s Death

    Posted by Kory | October 31, 2007, 6:00 pm
  43. Kory,

    You make many interesting points. The one thing I come back to is…….ask the victim’s family members how they feel. What if you were one. Would you still feel the same way. I say release the sicko to the family members and let them decide his fate

    Posted by John | August 14, 2008, 11:51 am
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  45. Let the fucker fry and die. God is there but it is up to us to decide what a being does on a Pyhsical plane.Anybody that hurts a child is a degenerant human being! They are evil and fucked up. It is against what we are and what we believe and what we will be!God gives us a choice good or bad. He chose to be bad so fuck him no mercy. Fuck this politcal bullshit crap that the lawyers and judges do to protect the guilty what about the victim? It seems to me that these days the Victum is always getting screwed over. Power to the GOOd PEOPLE ON THIS PLANET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Posted by marie | August 21, 2008, 9:10 pm
  46. His blog makes many references to Christianity and God….

    Stating a few times that he is acting on “God’s Will”, or he had a conversation with God.

    In the mindset of George Carlin, I think religion has the potential to really screw people up. I have friends that were brought up strictly as conservative Christians….and they are certainly in a realm of their own.

    Abstinence from healthy sex can lead one to committing to some form of grotesque or unusual beliefs in sexuality. I think that some of the most religious or conservative people are the most perverted people, because they repress natural feelings of sexuality with a notion that women (or person of opposite sex) have some type of super-natural power.

    In fact, we are supposed to learn (from our mothers, and fathers, and from nature) that sex is natural. Perhaps this post is trying to get into a different psychological analysis, vs. an analysis on effect of religion on people. But I think they’re related.

    Bottom line: God’s not telling you to screw little boys in the ass. You were most likely abused as a child, or you were refrained from natural sex as an adolescent teenager due to conservative Christian beliefs.

    Posted by Fievel | August 21, 2008, 10:13 pm
  47. There is no punishment on earth that matches the crime of this sub human filth.

    Posted by Brian | August 27, 2008, 3:55 pm
  48. No words can describe my sadness for the Groene family. I pray that Shasta will have nothing but love surrounding her as she grows up. She needs all the chances she can get for a good life. I agree with Brian; I am a peaceful person, but I think lethal injection is too good for Duncan. I am all for bringing back drawing and quartering for him, or the old method of execution from china of lengchi, or death by a thousand cuts. Or just pass hammers out to Steve Groene and the family and let them at him.

    Posted by A Horrified Mom | August 27, 2008, 7:11 pm
  49. I have read all about Joseph Duncan. Where he grew up etc… and this is very creepy. When I was in the 4th grade there was a boy who regularly was literally dragged into class kicking and screaming. I remember adults prying his fingers loose from the door frame. Once forced inside and into a desk he would sometimes run out and sometimes just go into a trance like state and just sit there. I have always wondered about him. And guess what his name was…Joseph Duncan. Correct age, the same eyes…Does anyone know if he spent time in Marietta Georgia as a child?

    Posted by Lynn | August 28, 2008, 2:43 pm
  50. In which prison is he right now? If someone knows I will try to contact some people there in order to have the bastard /<1l!3d.

    Posted by revenge | December 3, 2008, 1:47 am
  51. Nah, I wouldn’t do that… I don’t have the guts for that. But this is such a sick idiot, it makes you angry and scared at the same time. It could be your own family and that’s what makes this so frightening.

    Posted by revenge | December 3, 2008, 4:13 pm

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