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In the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina in Louisiana, Texans — and Houstonians in particular — were heralded for their response to those who needed help.

Now, as Houston prepares for Hurricane Rita just a few short weeks later, I’ve seen and heard numerous stories of Texans helping themselves and those around them.

People like the residents of The Woodlands (one of the Houston area’s wealthiest communities/cities), which is off of I-45 north of Houston, who are handing out water along the highway to motorists who are crawling up the freeway.

But you know what I haven’t seen in my home state? Looters.

There are a lot of places already evacuated and being left mostly-unprotected. But there have been no reports or images of lawless citizens breaking into stores for big screen TVs and armfuls of Nike shoes. Maybe it’s because a lot of Texans own guns. And Texans are noted for the ferocity in which they will protect their property.

What does that say about the citizens of Texas? What does that say about the citizens of New Orleans? And Houston has more than its fair share of poor people—black, brown, white, and otherwise. So “race” and “poor” cards are ruled out.

12 Responses to “No Looting Reported in Texas”

To my knowledge the looting in NO did not begin until the storm hit. And then it began with people taking essential items. In my memory the intense looting wasn’t until Wednesday or Thursday when it became apparent that there was no police or National Guard presence.

As for causes: I doubt that residents in NO were particularly less well-armed than Texans. I would suppose that looting would be highly correlated with social conditions- people who are connected to their community and have positive expectations for the future would probably be unlikely to destroy their own neighborhoods.

I certainly hope that it doesn’t happen in Houston though.

New Orleans has a record of being one of the most dangerous cities in this country…so it stands to reason it would have a heavy criminal element. Looting, except for survival, cannot..and I repeat cannot be excused. We all saw it on television..jewelry being stolen…rescuers being shot at..it’s a fact. Even the Mayor of New Orleans made comments that were extremely threatening to the criminal element. Of course there are criminals everywhere, but NO is at the top of the list. No excuses anymore..bang bang bang..and no excuses to the fat cat price gouging oil people either….It’s time to take back our country from all our robbers.

That’s quite a non-sequitor you’ve come up with, Dianne. So, you’re equating the free market with theft, are you? You actually think those who violently smash and grab private property are the moral equivalent to those engaged in legal commerce? You actually think we should kill the producers? You think we should kill them and take their property?

That’s what you’re advocating: kill and take, kill and take. And that’s different from looting, how?

At any level, the entitlement mentality is disgusting to behold.

Cedarfever: Put down the pipe! What’s disgusting to behold is your ability to twist what Diane posted. Talk about non sequiturs!

“No excuses anymore..bang bang bang..and no excuses to the fat cat price gouging oil people either…”

Free people have right to self defense and a right to protect their property - that is indisputable. But, it is a serious error in thinking to juxtapose high prices and looting and call the two equals. Only a sense of entitlement would lead one to believe that there is some arbitrary limit to the price of a commodity and that somehow there has been a miscarriage of justice because that limit has been exceeded. Implicit in that thinking is that an individual or group has a right to another’s property by mere fact that the former wants it. Bit by bit, that dangerous notion picks away at the foundation of our free society.

The entitlement mentality has so thoroughly permeated our culture that perhaps I should no longer be amazed when I encounter it. No matter, it still disgusts me.

Only a sense of entitlement would lead one to believe that there is some arbitrary limit to the price of a commodity

Only a free market ideologue would believe that each market is fairly balanced by supply and demand. Clearly, it’s possible to game the system- at least in the short run. Look at Enron in California as they orchestrated plant shutdowns forcing rolling brownouts. Is there an explanation for the relationship to the shutdown of refineries and the price of crude oil other than exploitation of tragedy?

I wasn’t going to respond to this, but CedarFever, you have completely misunderstood me. I do not believe in an entitlement society at all. I have never taken a dime that I didn’t earn on the job or from investments. I believe in capitalism. My point was that there are different kinds of thieves and none should be tolerated EXCEPT for those who in an emergency such as NO had where water and food were necessary for life. I would steal if there was an emergency that threated the life of my family and there was no where else to turn. Looters stealing jewelry, etc. however, should be severely punished.

Now, for corporations, I worked for one as an upper level manager for years. I believe corporations should be allowed to make a profit..they must make a profit. However, there are thieves in the corporate world too who are no better than jewelry looters. There is good reason to suspect that somebody or several in the oil supply pipeline channels are ripping off the public. Governors of several states have called for an investigation…if there’s no graft, fine. If there is, then I say prosecute big time. We all know there are thieves in corporations e.g. Tyco, Enron, etc. and that kind of thievery should be stopped and severely punished. Speaking of thieves, government is not exempt by any means. Throw them in the pile of thieves too. See Robbie’s recent post on the NO request for taxpayer money to pay for every thing under the sun (including a yet to be built alligator farm) when everyone knows the graft in that state is partly responsible for the mess they are in now.

Thievery comes in many different forms.

Dianne

What about the ‘entitlement’ of the ‘charismatic CEOs’ and the executives under them in the US who take home anywhere from $3 million to $30 million a year in salaries *each*, looting corporations for their own personal enrichment, voting up their salaries unopposed every year? Remember, that is *your* money paying for regular goods and services going to *them*, inflating the price to you. The CEOs see the profits of a numerically large society with an unrestrained free market mentality as ample opportunity for corporate piracy of their own. This sort of unrestrained profit-taking is similar to the inequalities that triggered the French Revolution. It takes a lot of looting of TV sets to make up 1 present-day CEO’s salary.

Oh, I forgot to say ‘bang bang bang’ to the charismatic CEOs, since we’re all about arbitrarily assigning the death penality to anyone we don’t like. That’s very similar to Islamic Sharia law, isn’t it?

Dianne,

Thank-you for the clarifying things for me - I understand where you are coming from now and, frankly, have no quarrel with what you’re saying. Reading things like what I *thought* I read in your first post really tend to get my dander up (and make me misspell, damnit).

Last I checked….Galveston County was in TEXAS. Get your facts straight. Everybody has looters. Even our area. No other city is better than the other and anyone who thinks otherwise is very ignorant.

10 Charged With Looting In Galveston County
Foreigners Praise Mayor For Handling Of Disaster

POSTED: 9:11 am CDT September 28, 2005

GALVESTON, Texas — Authorities have charged 10 people with looting from evacuated homes and businesses in Galveston County before, during and after Hurricane Rita.

More arrests may follow as some residents return to find break-ins.

Galveston County District Attorney Kurt Sistrunk said he wouldn’t be surprised to find more than 100 cases in which people were victimized for leaving their homes or businesses.

“It’s disgusting that we have to deal with this type of crime in an emergency situation,” Sistrunk said.

yet another story of looters in our home state.

Rita Evacuation Allows Thieves To Burglarize 33 Apartments
Many Victims Did Not Have Renters’ Insurance

POSTED: 10:02 am CDT September 28, 2005

HOUSTON — Hurricane Rita did not damage too many homes in Houston, but some residents in northeast Houston who evacuated returned home to find major damage from thieves, KPRC Local 2 reported Tuesday.

Police said 33 apartments in the Lake Crest Village apartments on Tidwell Road near Mesa Drive were burglarized after residents heeded management’s warning to evacuate because of Hurricane Rita.

Apartment managers admitted to KPRC Local 2 off camera that security gates were left open and that the staff evacuated, leaving the complex unmanned.

“We work everyday for all the stuff that we have. And now we don’t have anything. It doesn’t make sense,” a resident told KPRC Local 2.

Management said it will fix damage to the apartments but would not cover property loss.

All of the victims that KPRC Local 2 spoke with said they did not have renters’ insurance.

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