Comments on: Tookie Williams: Case Closed

By: Robbie

Robbie — Mon, 23 Jan 2006 19:38:01 +0000

Just out of curiosity, Maya, which other Biblical laws and ideas do you find “prehistoric”?

Ok, that’s just a rehtorical question. More to your point…the death penalty is not “an eye for an eye”. If it was, Tookie would have been shot in the back with a shotgun while he was laying face down on a cold floor.

Our laws of punishment our not dictated on “anger and pain”. They are pre-defined and prescribed. Criminals have the choice to abide by the laws of society or suffer the consequences of our punishments. To include death.

By: Maya

Maya — Mon, 23 Jan 2006 19:06:31 +0000

Chris you are an asshole.

If someone killed a person I love of course I would want to kill them, I’d want them to suffer. Does that mean it is right? No. Humans are supposed to be rational beings, we can’t decide over the life of another human being based on our feelings of anger and pain. And the idea of “an eye for an eye” is prehistoric.

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By: chris

chris — Tue, 20 Dec 2005 21:24:16 +0000

All you people bitching and complaining that the state killed a man, you have no right to fight for this killer. the only people who have the right to speak about this man are the families of those 4 people who died needlessly for less than $100. Try telling those families that Tookie should be spared. He didnt spare his victims. If you ever have a relative die with 2 gunshot wounds to the back, you will feel alot differently about their killer.

By: Robbie

Robbie — Sun, 18 Dec 2005 04:22:31 +0000

They didn’t. Case not closed.

But what is closed? Stanley Tookie’s ability to every kill another person. And in the words of Carl Lee Hailey (Samuel L. Jackson) in A Time to Kill:

“Yes, [he] deserved to die and I hope [he] burns in hell!”

By: Donny

Donny — Sun, 18 Dec 2005 03:05:27 +0000

The State murdered Tookie Williams: Case Closed

By: Dan

Dan — Wed, 14 Dec 2005 02:29:16 +0000

Fair enough, Dianne, and I apologize for my choice of words. But my point, I think, stands. Neither of us can judge what someone else would do when strapped to a gurney to be killed by the state.

By: dianne

dianne — Tue, 13 Dec 2005 23:20:51 +0000

Dan, that’s just my belief and it is not worthless. Beliefs are never worthless..they belong to the person who has them. The jury had a belief. The courts had a belief. The governor had a belief. I base my belief on his unrelenting and constant assertion of innocence, despite the fact that it could cost him his life. Yet when it did, he didn’t claim it.

I could be wrong. Just my belief.

By: Dan

Dan — Tue, 13 Dec 2005 22:13:28 +0000

Dianne – I believe he was probably guilty, but I don’t think you have any basis at all to interpret his silence on the gurney one way or the other. Your belief about what you or he would do in such a unique situation is worthless until you’re in the situation.

Robbie, I admire your thoughtful approach to the death penalty. While we disagree on its appropriateness, I respect your refusal to be simplistic about it. You’re no coward.

By: dianne

dianne — Tue, 13 Dec 2005 20:04:43 +0000

During his appeals Tookie refused to repent, vigorously asserting his innocence, even though repentence would have probably given him a better chance at life vs death. However, he didn’t claim his innocence while he was strapped on the gurney for the last 20 minutes of his life and while facing the family of the victims. If he truly was innocent, I believe he would have claimed it that one last time.

You’re right Robbie, case closed.