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	<title>Comments on: Coleen Rowley: The Godwin Candidate</title>
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		<title>By: Robbie</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2006/01/rowlley-is-godwin/#comment-14458</link>
		<dc:creator>Robbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2006 17:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh...since Klink was an &lt;em&gt;imaginary&lt;/em&gt; Nazi the comparison is valid?

So,  if I photoshopped a picture of Marueen Dowd&#039;s face over an image of Charlize Theron&#039;s character in &lt;em&gt;Monster&lt;/em&gt;, implying that Dowd was a serial killing, man-hating dyke --- that would be OK, since Charlize Theron isn&#039;t a &lt;em&gt;real&lt;/em&gt;, serial killing, man-hating dyke?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh&#8230;since Klink was an <em>imaginary</em> Nazi the comparison is valid?</p>
<p>So,  if I photoshopped a picture of Marueen Dowd&#8217;s face over an image of Charlize Theron&#8217;s character in <em>Monster</em>, implying that Dowd was a serial killing, man-hating dyke &#8212; that would be OK, since Charlize Theron isn&#8217;t a <em>real</em>, serial killing, man-hating dyke?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2006/01/rowlley-is-godwin/#comment-14457</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2006 13:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The photoshopped picture of Kline placed his face on a promotional shot for the TV show &quot;Hogan&#039;s Heroes.&quot;  Col. Klink was not a real Nazi, he was a bumbling television character who happened to wear a German uniform.  Kline&#039;s face was not placed on the body of an actual Nazi.  It was quite clear to anyone with any intelligence that Kline was not being called a evil Nazi, but a moronic sycophant, which he is.  This molehill is not the mountain the conservative blog world seems to want to make it.

This whole episode was minor and has already been forgotten by most of the blogosphere, as it should be.  It was never denounced by any prominent Democrats because it was a paraody, and Kline&#039;s over-reaction was embarassing and actually put money in Rowley&#039;s war chest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The photoshopped picture of Kline placed his face on a promotional shot for the TV show &#8220;Hogan&#8217;s Heroes.&#8221;  Col. Klink was not a real Nazi, he was a bumbling television character who happened to wear a German uniform.  Kline&#8217;s face was not placed on the body of an actual Nazi.  It was quite clear to anyone with any intelligence that Kline was not being called a evil Nazi, but a moronic sycophant, which he is.  This molehill is not the mountain the conservative blog world seems to want to make it.</p>
<p>This whole episode was minor and has already been forgotten by most of the blogosphere, as it should be.  It was never denounced by any prominent Democrats because it was a paraody, and Kline&#8217;s over-reaction was embarassing and actually put money in Rowley&#8217;s war chest.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2006/01/rowlley-is-godwin/#comment-14013</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2006 12:46:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sigh, indeed.  That&#039;s something he should not have said.  

The silver lining to this cloud is that you are able to catalog every slight by everyone with ties to the left.  If I tried to monitor similar nonsense from a single afternoon of right-wing talk show hosts, I&#039;d have to quit my day job.

Back to the original topic - what did you think of Godwin Rumsfeld claiming that Chavez was legally elected just like Hitler?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sigh, indeed.  That&#8217;s something he should not have said.  </p>
<p>The silver lining to this cloud is that you are able to catalog every slight by everyone with ties to the left.  If I tried to monitor similar nonsense from a single afternoon of right-wing talk show hosts, I&#8217;d have to quit my day job.</p>
<p>Back to the original topic &#8211; what did you think of Godwin Rumsfeld claiming that Chavez was legally elected just like Hitler?</p>
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		<title>By: Robbie</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2006/01/rowlley-is-godwin/#comment-13995</link>
		<dc:creator>Robbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2006 04:25:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sigh. And now we have the head of the NAACP calling Condi Rice and Colin Powell &quot;tokens&quot;.

So, since Steele didn&#039;t criticize the gov. for where he had a party, he deserves racial attacks on his self?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sigh. And now we have the head of the NAACP calling Condi Rice and Colin Powell &#8220;tokens&#8221;.</p>
<p>So, since Steele didn&#8217;t criticize the gov. for where he had a party, he deserves racial attacks on his self?</p>
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		<title>By: Preston</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2006/01/rowlley-is-godwin/#comment-13968</link>
		<dc:creator>Preston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2006 15:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robbie- you mischaracterize the Steele situation.  The criticism of him began when he refused to criticize Governor Erlich for having a fundraiser at an all-white country club.  

It seems like an indication of Steele&#039;s fealty to power when he is willing to act against his own interests (and those of a whole class of people) in an attempt to win office.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robbie- you mischaracterize the Steele situation.  The criticism of him began when he refused to criticize Governor Erlich for having a fundraiser at an all-white country club.  </p>
<p>It seems like an indication of Steele&#8217;s fealty to power when he is willing to act against his own interests (and those of a whole class of people) in an attempt to win office.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2006/01/rowlley-is-godwin/#comment-13955</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2006 15:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, one good thing about continuing this thread is that it gives an excuse to scroll down to that picture of Brandi Carlile . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, one good thing about continuing this thread is that it gives an excuse to scroll down to that picture of Brandi Carlile . . .</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2006/01/rowlley-is-godwin/#comment-13954</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2006 15:02:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The oreo cookie thing is made up, apparently (I wasn&#039;t there, so I have to rely on reports and logic, but he didn&#039;t mention it until long afterward, and reporters there didn&#039;t report on it . . .).  The Schumer credit report thing is bad - he turned the staffers in immediately, but I agree that an apology is in order.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The oreo cookie thing is made up, apparently (I wasn&#8217;t there, so I have to rely on reports and logic, but he didn&#8217;t mention it until long afterward, and reporters there didn&#8217;t report on it . . .).  The Schumer credit report thing is bad &#8211; he turned the staffers in immediately, but I agree that an apology is in order.</p>
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		<title>By: Robbie</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2006/01/rowlley-is-godwin/#comment-13947</link>
		<dc:creator>Robbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2006 14:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan,

The Lt. Gov. Michael S. Steele situation is worse than you&#039;re making it out to be. 

My orignial comment:

&lt;em&gt;Maryland Democratic Leaders have sanctioned racial slandering of Republican Lt. Gov. Michael Steele, who is running for Senate in Maryland. They have endorsed pelting him with Oreo cookies in public and calling him â€œless than blackâ€.&lt;/em&gt;

It was more than an official site being linked to an offending Web site. Lt. Gov. Steele was pelted with Oreo cookies during a public speech (from the &quot;tolerant&quot; left). 

The &lt;a href=&quot;http://washingtontimes.com/metro/20051101-104932-4054r.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Washington Times&lt;/a&gt; reported that Black Democratic leaders in Maryland say that &lt;b&gt;racially tinged attacks&lt;/b&gt; against Lt. Gov. Michael S. Steele in his bid for the U.S. Senate &lt;b&gt;are fair&lt;/b&gt; because he is a conservative Republican.

That sounds like &lt;em&gt;sanctioning &lt;/em&gt;to me.

Further, two staffers for Sen. Charles Schumer at the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee were responsible for illegally obtaining Lt. Gov. Steele&#039;s credit report by using his Social Security number, which they got from public documents. Under federal law, it is illegal to knowingly and willfully obtain a credit report under false pretenses.

Sen. Schumer has yet to apologize for this dirty act that origninated from his own office.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan,</p>
<p>The Lt. Gov. Michael S. Steele situation is worse than you&#8217;re making it out to be. </p>
<p>My orignial comment:</p>
<p><em>Maryland Democratic Leaders have sanctioned racial slandering of Republican Lt. Gov. Michael Steele, who is running for Senate in Maryland. They have endorsed pelting him with Oreo cookies in public and calling him â€œless than blackâ€.</em></p>
<p>It was more than an official site being linked to an offending Web site. Lt. Gov. Steele was pelted with Oreo cookies during a public speech (from the &#8220;tolerant&#8221; left). </p>
<p>The <a href="http://washingtontimes.com/metro/20051101-104932-4054r.htm" rel="nofollow">Washington Times</a> reported that Black Democratic leaders in Maryland say that <b>racially tinged attacks</b> against Lt. Gov. Michael S. Steele in his bid for the U.S. Senate <b>are fair</b> because he is a conservative Republican.</p>
<p>That sounds like <em>sanctioning </em>to me.</p>
<p>Further, two staffers for Sen. Charles Schumer at the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee were responsible for illegally obtaining Lt. Gov. Steele&#8217;s credit report by using his Social Security number, which they got from public documents. Under federal law, it is illegal to knowingly and willfully obtain a credit report under false pretenses.</p>
<p>Sen. Schumer has yet to apologize for this dirty act that origninated from his own office.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2006/01/rowlley-is-godwin/#comment-13945</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2006 13:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RickZ - She&#039;s drawn a challenger in the primary, and she&#039;s going to lose.  I appreciate your totalitarian impulses, but, in this country (where are you from?) the party cannot force a candidate to withdraw.  It was a stupid thing to do, and she&#039;ll pay the price for it.

I also think you&#039;ve missed a step in the discussion.  Robbie and I were discussing a case where the offense was in linking to a page that included something objectionable.  I agree that situation is different than one where, as in the Rowley case, the offense is actually on the candidate&#039;s site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RickZ &#8211; She&#8217;s drawn a challenger in the primary, and she&#8217;s going to lose.  I appreciate your totalitarian impulses, but, in this country (where are you from?) the party cannot force a candidate to withdraw.  It was a stupid thing to do, and she&#8217;ll pay the price for it.</p>
<p>I also think you&#8217;ve missed a step in the discussion.  Robbie and I were discussing a case where the offense was in linking to a page that included something objectionable.  I agree that situation is different than one where, as in the Rowley case, the offense is actually on the candidate&#8217;s site.</p>
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		<title>By: RickZ</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2006/01/rowlley-is-godwin/#comment-13908</link>
		<dc:creator>RickZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2006 23:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Itâ€™s malarkey that they â€œsanctionedâ€ the doctored photo. Do you â€œsanctionâ€ everything that shows up on every page on your blogroll?&quot; 

To put your tripe into perspective, Dan, do you remember something about a republican Mississippi Senator being booted from his Senate position for saying something at a birthday party?  This is far, far worse.  This democratic candidate with the shortsightedness of Mr. Magoo should have been castigated by her own party, and FORCED to quit the campaign for the good of the party and the country.  I know, I know, that&#039;s asking way too much of current democrats.  To put it bluntly, it is inexcusable for someone running for elective Federal office to have had this photoshopped crap on her website and still be a candidate for said office.  She is, simply, a typical member of the traitorous Left, and a disgrace.  But demonrats seem to like disgraces in their ranks.  Just look at The Swimmer.  Or the Kleagle.  Or Murtha.  Or Reid.  Or the War Hero they had run for president as their candidate in 2004.  For the local democartic party to not condemn this woman is disgusting.  For her to still be in the running for office is an abomination.  And no amount of apologizing from her or her staff can ever be enough.  It was not a simple mistake but a deliberate smear the likes of which the democratic party seems to have in abundance.  The democrats do not hold themselves accountable, and feel no one else has the right to, either.  But they are wrong -- dead wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Itâ€™s malarkey that they â€œsanctionedâ€ the doctored photo. Do you â€œsanctionâ€ everything that shows up on every page on your blogroll?&#8221; </p>
<p>To put your tripe into perspective, Dan, do you remember something about a republican Mississippi Senator being booted from his Senate position for saying something at a birthday party?  This is far, far worse.  This democratic candidate with the shortsightedness of Mr. Magoo should have been castigated by her own party, and FORCED to quit the campaign for the good of the party and the country.  I know, I know, that&#8217;s asking way too much of current democrats.  To put it bluntly, it is inexcusable for someone running for elective Federal office to have had this photoshopped crap on her website and still be a candidate for said office.  She is, simply, a typical member of the traitorous Left, and a disgrace.  But demonrats seem to like disgraces in their ranks.  Just look at The Swimmer.  Or the Kleagle.  Or Murtha.  Or Reid.  Or the War Hero they had run for president as their candidate in 2004.  For the local democartic party to not condemn this woman is disgusting.  For her to still be in the running for office is an abomination.  And no amount of apologizing from her or her staff can ever be enough.  It was not a simple mistake but a deliberate smear the likes of which the democratic party seems to have in abundance.  The democrats do not hold themselves accountable, and feel no one else has the right to, either.  But they are wrong &#8212; dead wrong.</p>
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