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		<title>By: UrbanGrounds &#187; Blog Archive &#187; What Media Bias? Part VI</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2006/03/abc-makes-me-sick/#comment-28323</link>
		<dc:creator>UrbanGrounds &#187; Blog Archive &#187; What Media Bias? Part VI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Nov 2006 02:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Preston</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2006/03/abc-makes-me-sick/#comment-15142</link>
		<dc:creator>Preston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2006 16:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The larger picture!?&lt;/i&gt;

If there aren&#039;t similar emails about Kerry and Clinton you&#039;d have a point.  But I&#039;m sure there are- that&#039;s the world they live in and the people they are- they are cynical about politics and politicians.  That&#039;s why they refuse to talk about the actual results of government policy: they believe that politicians only introduce policies for their political benefits.  So any discussion of, say, the Medicare Prescription Bill didn&#039;t focus on: &#039;Wow, this bill sucks&#039; but: &#039;This is really going to help the President in 2004!&#039;.  

Welcome to our media.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The larger picture!?</i></p>
<p>If there aren&#8217;t similar emails about Kerry and Clinton you&#8217;d have a point.  But I&#8217;m sure there are- that&#8217;s the world they live in and the people they are- they are cynical about politics and politicians.  That&#8217;s why they refuse to talk about the actual results of government policy: they believe that politicians only introduce policies for their political benefits.  So any discussion of, say, the Medicare Prescription Bill didn&#8217;t focus on: &#8216;Wow, this bill sucks&#8217; but: &#8216;This is really going to help the President in 2004!&#8217;.  </p>
<p>Welcome to our media.</p>
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		<title>By: Preston</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2006/03/abc-makes-me-sick/#comment-15141</link>
		<dc:creator>Preston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2006 16:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The â€œBush Makes me Sickâ€ comment? Thatâ€™s the one that Iâ€™m pissed about. &lt;/i&gt;

It&#039;s a poor choice of words.  I would have said: &quot;Bush drives me crazy.  If he says &#039;mixed messages&#039; one more time I going to puke...&quot;
But in the context of his sentence (ooh, that dreaded concept...) that&#039;s the way I interpret it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The â€œBush Makes me Sickâ€ comment? Thatâ€™s the one that Iâ€™m pissed about. </i></p>
<p>It&#8217;s a poor choice of words.  I would have said: &#8220;Bush drives me crazy.  If he says &#8216;mixed messages&#8217; one more time I going to puke&#8230;&#8221;<br />
But in the context of his sentence (ooh, that dreaded concept&#8230;) that&#8217;s the way I interpret it.</p>
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		<title>By: Robbie</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2006/03/abc-makes-me-sick/#comment-15140</link>
		<dc:creator>Robbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2006 15:59:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s what the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rightwinged.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;bigger point&lt;/a&gt; is:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Hereâ€™s an even more interesting angle to this. If this guy were sending this from a personal computer, with a personal email address, at home to friends or blogging at KOS thatâ€™s one thing (although if it were leaked, it would still be worth mentioning to add that extra nail to the liberal media coffin saying â€œlook, we told youâ€)... But this is a top ABC News Producer, using an ABC BlackBerry device, using his ABC email address, and sending it to others at ABC like itâ€™s something they do everyday, because it probably is. Do you get whatâ€™s wrong with this?! 

The larger picture!? For anyone who works in an office, you know itâ€™s not okay to be sending this sort of thing around, and you could get in trouble for it. But the liberalism at ABC News is so widespread, they think nothing of sending Bush hate emails. Itâ€™s what they talk about around the water cooler anyway!&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s what the <a href="http://www.rightwinged.com/" rel="nofollow">bigger point</a> is:</p>
<blockquote><p>Hereâ€™s an even more interesting angle to this. If this guy were sending this from a personal computer, with a personal email address, at home to friends or blogging at KOS thatâ€™s one thing (although if it were leaked, it would still be worth mentioning to add that extra nail to the liberal media coffin saying â€œlook, we told youâ€)&#8230; But this is a top ABC News Producer, using an ABC BlackBerry device, using his ABC email address, and sending it to others at ABC like itâ€™s something they do everyday, because it probably is. Do you get whatâ€™s wrong with this?! </p>
<p>The larger picture!? For anyone who works in an office, you know itâ€™s not okay to be sending this sort of thing around, and you could get in trouble for it. But the liberalism at ABC News is so widespread, they think nothing of sending Bush hate emails. Itâ€™s what they talk about around the water cooler anyway!</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Robbie</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2006/03/abc-makes-me-sick/#comment-15139</link>
		<dc:creator>Robbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2006 15:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Preston --- I don&#039;t care so much about the &quot;if he says mixed messages one more time I&#039;m going to puke&quot; comment. From the &quot;context&quot; of the message that you provided a link to, that is understandable.

The &quot;Bush Makes me Sick&quot; comment? That&#039;s the one that I&#039;m pissed about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Preston &#8212; I don&#8217;t care so much about the &#8220;if he says mixed messages one more time I&#8217;m going to puke&#8221; comment. From the &#8220;context&#8221; of the message that you provided a link to, that is understandable.</p>
<p>The &#8220;Bush Makes me Sick&#8221; comment? That&#8217;s the one that I&#8217;m pissed about.</p>
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		<title>By: Preston</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2006/03/abc-makes-me-sick/#comment-15138</link>
		<dc:creator>Preston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2006 15:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You people are amazing.

If I say &quot;That car is so expensive it makes me puke&quot; isn&#039;t a reasonable reaction to ask: &quot;How expensive is the car?&quot;

If it turns out to a third party that the car is not very expensive it is reasonable to think that I am biased against the car for some reason.

If the car is expensive- well what&#039;s the problem?

I would not have had this &#039;rally around the candidate&#039; reaction if Mr. Green had said: &#039;If John Kerry mentions Vietnam one more time, I&#039;m going to puke.&#039;  Because- you know what- he mentioned it too much.

Y&#039;all are going to have heart attacks at early ages if you maintain this level of outrage...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You people are amazing.</p>
<p>If I say &#8220;That car is so expensive it makes me puke&#8221; isn&#8217;t a reasonable reaction to ask: &#8220;How expensive is the car?&#8221;</p>
<p>If it turns out to a third party that the car is not very expensive it is reasonable to think that I am biased against the car for some reason.</p>
<p>If the car is expensive- well what&#8217;s the problem?</p>
<p>I would not have had this &#8216;rally around the candidate&#8217; reaction if Mr. Green had said: &#8216;If John Kerry mentions Vietnam one more time, I&#8217;m going to puke.&#8217;  Because- you know what- he mentioned it too much.</p>
<p>Y&#8217;all are going to have heart attacks at early ages if you maintain this level of outrage&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: SIT</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2006/03/abc-makes-me-sick/#comment-15136</link>
		<dc:creator>SIT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2006 15:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another example of Preston using statistics to misrepresent the point:

The email that ABC Producer John Green sent states â€œIf he uses the â€˜mixed messagesâ€™ line one more time, Iâ€™m going to puke,â€ .

JOHN GREEN WROTE THIS!

We aren&#039;t talking about the debate Preston.  We&#039;re talking about the comment!

Preston, why don&#039;t you send those statistics to John Green and see if he&#039;ll join in your spin that what he wrote was taken out of context.
Because of the number of times the words were used in his comment...ummmm, I mean the debate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another example of Preston using statistics to misrepresent the point:</p>
<p>The email that ABC Producer John Green sent states â€œIf he uses the â€˜mixed messagesâ€™ line one more time, Iâ€™m going to puke,â€ .</p>
<p>JOHN GREEN WROTE THIS!</p>
<p>We aren&#8217;t talking about the debate Preston.  We&#8217;re talking about the comment!</p>
<p>Preston, why don&#8217;t you send those statistics to John Green and see if he&#8217;ll join in your spin that what he wrote was taken out of context.<br />
Because of the number of times the words were used in his comment&#8230;ummmm, I mean the debate.</p>
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		<title>By: Preston</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2006/03/abc-makes-me-sick/#comment-15135</link>
		<dc:creator>Preston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2006 15:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I guess we&#039;ll just leave it at that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I guess we&#8217;ll just leave it at that.</p>
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		<title>By: 2</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2006/03/abc-makes-me-sick/#comment-15134</link>
		<dc:creator>2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2006 15:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Typical. You don&#039;t even realize when you are being offensive, Preston.  And, yes, you are a whiner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Typical. You don&#8217;t even realize when you are being offensive, Preston.  And, yes, you are a whiner.</p>
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		<title>By: Preston</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2006/03/abc-makes-me-sick/#comment-15133</link>
		<dc:creator>Preston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2006 14:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Robbie, isn&#039;t illuminating to the context to know that the word â€œmixedâ€ was used twelve times in the debate and the word â€œmessageâ€ twenty six times?  

2.  I don&#039;t know what you mean by &#039;whining&#039;.  I didn&#039;t say a word about the election.  Do you really lash out this blindly against anyone who disagrees with you- you must be a joy around the office...

&lt;i&gt;American people preferred substance over style. &lt;/i&gt;  That&#039;s hillarious.  Did you see his &#039;substance&#039; during the press conference.  
Mr. President: it&#039;s called the &#039;Federal Reserve&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Robbie, isn&#8217;t illuminating to the context to know that the word â€œmixedâ€ was used twelve times in the debate and the word â€œmessageâ€ twenty six times?  </p>
<p>2.  I don&#8217;t know what you mean by &#8216;whining&#8217;.  I didn&#8217;t say a word about the election.  Do you really lash out this blindly against anyone who disagrees with you- you must be a joy around the office&#8230;</p>
<p><i>American people preferred substance over style. </i>  That&#8217;s hillarious.  Did you see his &#8216;substance&#8217; during the press conference.<br />
Mr. President: it&#8217;s called the &#8216;Federal Reserve&#8217;.</p>
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