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	<title>Comments on: Sen. John Cornyn &#8212; My Favorite Texan</title>
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		<title>By: Preston</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2006/03/cornyn-slaps-feingold/#comment-14915</link>
		<dc:creator>Preston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Mar 2006 19:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lastly, I think I&#039;ll cast my two cents in and say Willie Nelson is my favorite Texan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lastly, I think I&#8217;ll cast my two cents in and say Willie Nelson is my favorite Texan.</p>
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		<title>By: Preston</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2006/03/cornyn-slaps-feingold/#comment-14881</link>
		<dc:creator>Preston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2006 22:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robbie- It&#039;s admirable that you trust the President to operate within the law but our Constitution is not based on trust but upon a system of checks and balances.  

Regardless, the President is not deserving of this trust you give him because he has repeatedly misrepresented this program- I don&#039;t know who he is spying on.  As the resolution cites:

&lt;i&gt;(1) on April 20, 2004, that `When we&#039;re talking about chasing down terrorists, we&#039;re talking about getting a court order before we do so.&#039;; 

(2) on July 14, 2004, that `the government can&#039;t move on wiretaps or roving wiretaps without getting a court order&#039;; and 

(3) on June 9, 2005, that `Law enforcement officers need a federal judge&#039;s permission to wiretap a foreign terrorist&#039;s phone, a federal judge&#039;s permission to track his calls, or a federal judge&#039;s permission to search his property. Officers must meet strict standards to use any of these tools.&#039;&lt;/i&gt;

I&#039;m curious, do you similarly believe it is permissible for the President to send the FBI to conduct warrantless searches of the homes of Americans who make overseas phonecalls?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robbie- It&#8217;s admirable that you trust the President to operate within the law but our Constitution is not based on trust but upon a system of checks and balances.  </p>
<p>Regardless, the President is not deserving of this trust you give him because he has repeatedly misrepresented this program- I don&#8217;t know who he is spying on.  As the resolution cites:</p>
<p><i>(1) on April 20, 2004, that `When we&#8217;re talking about chasing down terrorists, we&#8217;re talking about getting a court order before we do so.&#8217;; </p>
<p>(2) on July 14, 2004, that `the government can&#8217;t move on wiretaps or roving wiretaps without getting a court order&#8217;; and </p>
<p>(3) on June 9, 2005, that `Law enforcement officers need a federal judge&#8217;s permission to wiretap a foreign terrorist&#8217;s phone, a federal judge&#8217;s permission to track his calls, or a federal judge&#8217;s permission to search his property. Officers must meet strict standards to use any of these tools.&#8217;</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;m curious, do you similarly believe it is permissible for the President to send the FBI to conduct warrantless searches of the homes of Americans who make overseas phonecalls?</p>
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		<title>By: Robbie</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2006/03/cornyn-slaps-feingold/#comment-14876</link>
		<dc:creator>Robbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2006 20:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;We used to agree that unregulated spying on Americans was bad&lt;/em&gt;

Preston --- I am in complete agreement with you that &lt;em&gt;unregulated&lt;/em&gt; spying on &lt;em&gt;Americans&lt;/em&gt; is bad.

However --- spying on &lt;em&gt;international&lt;/em&gt; calls between a person in America (who may or may not be an American citizen) and another person in another country (who may or may not be an American citizen), where at least one of the parties in that international call are suspected or known al Qaeda (or any other terrorist group) operatives? Well, I fully support that and don&#039;t think it&#039;s &quot;bad&quot;.

President Bush wasn&#039;t tapping the phone of a guy from Menominee who was calling his buddy in Sheboygan to talk about whether or not the Chippewa Indian tribes in up-state Wisconsin should have un-restricted, no-season/no-limit hunting rights, while they are restricted to trapping fur bearing animals only between October 20 â€“ April 15 each hunting season.

They &lt;em&gt;were&lt;/em&gt; tapping calls coming in from places like Pakistan, made to American phone numbers, which were found on recovered terrorists cell phones.

You do understand that there&#039;s a difference, right? And that out-of-country terrorists calling America aren&#039;t covered by our Bill of Rights. You understand that, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>We used to agree that unregulated spying on Americans was bad</em></p>
<p>Preston &#8212; I am in complete agreement with you that <em>unregulated</em> spying on <em>Americans</em> is bad.</p>
<p>However &#8212; spying on <em>international</em> calls between a person in America (who may or may not be an American citizen) and another person in another country (who may or may not be an American citizen), where at least one of the parties in that international call are suspected or known al Qaeda (or any other terrorist group) operatives? Well, I fully support that and don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s &#8220;bad&#8221;.</p>
<p>President Bush wasn&#8217;t tapping the phone of a guy from Menominee who was calling his buddy in Sheboygan to talk about whether or not the Chippewa Indian tribes in up-state Wisconsin should have un-restricted, no-season/no-limit hunting rights, while they are restricted to trapping fur bearing animals only between October 20 â€“ April 15 each hunting season.</p>
<p>They <em>were</em> tapping calls coming in from places like Pakistan, made to American phone numbers, which were found on recovered terrorists cell phones.</p>
<p>You do understand that there&#8217;s a difference, right? And that out-of-country terrorists calling America aren&#8217;t covered by our Bill of Rights. You understand that, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Preston</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2006/03/cornyn-slaps-feingold/#comment-14875</link>
		<dc:creator>Preston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2006 19:50:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Itâ€™s 2006, not 1776. &lt;/i&gt;

Well, it&#039;s sad that many believe that liberty was good for our grandfathers but not for ourselves as if the world suddenly grew dangerous on September 11 and that these rights hadn&#039;t sustained us as we fought Nazis and Communists.

We used to agree that unregulated spying on Americans was  bad.  Now when  Jimmy Carter referred to the dispicible practice of the FBI wiretapping  Martin Luther King&#039;s telephone it was widely regarded to be a criticism of President Bush.  However, I&#039;m of the opinion that if you don&#039;t want to be compared to J. Edgar Hoover you don&#039;t behave like J. Edgar Hoover.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Itâ€™s 2006, not 1776. </i></p>
<p>Well, it&#8217;s sad that many believe that liberty was good for our grandfathers but not for ourselves as if the world suddenly grew dangerous on September 11 and that these rights hadn&#8217;t sustained us as we fought Nazis and Communists.</p>
<p>We used to agree that unregulated spying on Americans was  bad.  Now when  Jimmy Carter referred to the dispicible practice of the FBI wiretapping  Martin Luther King&#8217;s telephone it was widely regarded to be a criticism of President Bush.  However, I&#8217;m of the opinion that if you don&#8217;t want to be compared to J. Edgar Hoover you don&#8217;t behave like J. Edgar Hoover.</p>
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		<title>By: dianne</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2006/03/cornyn-slaps-feingold/#comment-14874</link>
		<dc:creator>dianne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2006 19:03:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t believe I am ceding my rights.  I am giving them to the President, be it a Republican or Democrat, to  wiretap  my calls if I am talking to a suspected terrorist in another country.  I want that to happen.  Google earth can show a picture of my house to the whole damn world.   Cell phones can be used as trigger mechanisms for bombs.  God knows how many people can get into any of my records if they try hard enough.  

It&#039;s 2006, not 1776.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t believe I am ceding my rights.  I am giving them to the President, be it a Republican or Democrat, to  wiretap  my calls if I am talking to a suspected terrorist in another country.  I want that to happen.  Google earth can show a picture of my house to the whole damn world.   Cell phones can be used as trigger mechanisms for bombs.  God knows how many people can get into any of my records if they try hard enough.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s 2006, not 1776.</p>
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		<title>By: dianne</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2006/03/cornyn-slaps-feingold/#comment-14873</link>
		<dc:creator>dianne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2006 17:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, well, gotta hand it to you Preston.  I should have checked Feingold&#039;s history before the challenge.  However, that doesn&#039;t change my position about censuring Bush.  It&#039;s an entirely different situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, well, gotta hand it to you Preston.  I should have checked Feingold&#8217;s history before the challenge.  However, that doesn&#8217;t change my position about censuring Bush.  It&#8217;s an entirely different situation.</p>
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		<title>By: Preston</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2006/03/cornyn-slaps-feingold/#comment-14872</link>
		<dc:creator>Preston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2006 17:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;People want to feel safe and they want the President to have the power to keep us that way. &lt;/i&gt;

Alas, it is no secret that large portions of the public have been willing to cede the rights that the founders fought for.   Luckily the authority of the Constitution remains even if the citizens are unaware of its protections.

And, of course, everyone is in agreement that the President must do everything in his power to thwart the ambitions of terrorists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>People want to feel safe and they want the President to have the power to keep us that way. </i></p>
<p>Alas, it is no secret that large portions of the public have been willing to cede the rights that the founders fought for.   Luckily the authority of the Constitution remains even if the citizens are unaware of its protections.</p>
<p>And, of course, everyone is in agreement that the President must do everything in his power to thwart the ambitions of terrorists.</p>
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		<title>By: Preston</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2006/03/cornyn-slaps-feingold/#comment-14871</link>
		<dc:creator>Preston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2006 17:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding Feingold and the Clinton impeachment:

&lt;i&gt;Democrat bucks party line to vote with GOP in Clinton hearing&lt;/i&gt;
http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/01/28/feingold.01/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding Feingold and the Clinton impeachment:</p>
<p><i>Democrat bucks party line to vote with GOP in Clinton hearing</i><br />
<a href="http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/01/28/feingold.01/" rel="nofollow">http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/01/28/feingold.01/</a></p>
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		<title>By: dianne</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2006/03/cornyn-slaps-feingold/#comment-14870</link>
		<dc:creator>dianne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2006 17:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the record, I think Bush should have reported the wiretapping after the fact within the proscribed timeframes.   Then, all of this hooptara wouldn&#039;t have happened.  As I said above, it&#039;s all a big waste of time.  People want to feel safe and they want the President to have the power to keep us that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the record, I think Bush should have reported the wiretapping after the fact within the proscribed timeframes.   Then, all of this hooptara wouldn&#8217;t have happened.  As I said above, it&#8217;s all a big waste of time.  People want to feel safe and they want the President to have the power to keep us that way.</p>
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		<title>By: dianne</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2006/03/cornyn-slaps-feingold/#comment-14869</link>
		<dc:creator>dianne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2006 17:35:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t recall Bush lying under oath.  That is an impeachable offense.  Naturally, some of the Democrats would have supported censure over impeachment in the Clinton case.  Indeed, I&#039;m sure many Republicans agreed.  But, even that wasn&#039;t done.  If Feingold believes so strongly in the rule of law or checks and balances, why didn&#039;t he try to censure Clinton?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t recall Bush lying under oath.  That is an impeachable offense.  Naturally, some of the Democrats would have supported censure over impeachment in the Clinton case.  Indeed, I&#8217;m sure many Republicans agreed.  But, even that wasn&#8217;t done.  If Feingold believes so strongly in the rule of law or checks and balances, why didn&#8217;t he try to censure Clinton?</p>
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