Comments on: March of the ILLEGALS http://urbangrounds.com/2006/03/illegals-protest/ Sometimes the truth hurts Tue, 14 Feb 2012 16:52:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: dianne http://urbangrounds.com/2006/03/illegals-protest/#comment-15331 dianne Wed, 29 Mar 2006 16:56:51 +0000 http://urbangrounds.com/?p=758#comment-15331 This is exactly how I feel. Looks like I am in the majority. http://www.washtimes.com/op-ed/20060328-102545-2371r.htm This is exactly how I feel. Looks like I am in the majority.
http://www.washtimes.com/op-ed/20060328-102545-2371r.htm

]]> By: Preston http://urbangrounds.com/2006/03/illegals-protest/#comment-15318 Preston Wed, 29 Mar 2006 14:02:19 +0000 http://urbangrounds.com/?p=758#comment-15318 Dianne- maybe you've already come to a conclusion on the isuse and are using a resource to back up that position but CIS is only going to provide data that back up their goal of a low rate of immigration. If you look to organizations that purport to be neutral and pro-immigration organizations you might find a different analysis of the pros and cons of immigration into the US. http://tinyurl.com/ry44g Dianne- maybe you’ve already come to a conclusion on the isuse and are using a resource to back up that position but CIS is only going to provide data that back up their goal of a low rate of immigration.

If you look to organizations that purport to be neutral and pro-immigration organizations you might find a different analysis of the pros and cons of immigration into the US.

http://tinyurl.com/ry44g

]]> By: Preston http://urbangrounds.com/2006/03/illegals-protest/#comment-15301 Preston Tue, 28 Mar 2006 23:51:25 +0000 http://urbangrounds.com/?p=758#comment-15301 Furious? Well, I suppose I'm going to disagree with what an organization says whose mission is to promote low immigration (funded by Richard Mellon Scaife, no less- ick). I believe immigration affirms who we are as Americans in addition to keeping this a growing, vital country. (I feel happy to report I reap the cultural benefits of living adjacent to West Indian, Central American, Pakistani, Polish, and Russian neighborhoods. They've made my city a more interesting place as well a more prosperous place.) But, yeah, it probably does cost money to legalize millions of immigrants in one lump group. But your stats point out that these immigrants have an immidiate rise in income that will translate into reduced government expentitures and increased tax collection over time. I'll repeat that I hope we can find a way to reduce illegal immigration- I think that it has some negatives for both the migrants and the US. But I would be happy to see legal immigration increase. If conservatives are interested in the US maintaining its global status they will have to get behind this as well. Furious?

Well, I suppose I’m going to disagree with what an organization says whose mission is to promote low immigration (funded by Richard Mellon Scaife, no less- ick). I believe immigration affirms who we are as Americans in addition to keeping this a growing, vital country. (I feel happy to report I reap the cultural benefits of living adjacent to West Indian, Central American, Pakistani, Polish, and Russian neighborhoods. They’ve made my city a more interesting place as well a more prosperous place.)

But, yeah, it probably does cost money to legalize millions of immigrants in one lump group. But your stats point out that these immigrants have an immidiate rise in income that will translate into reduced government expentitures and increased tax collection over time.

I’ll repeat that I hope we can find a way to reduce illegal immigration- I think that it has some negatives for both the migrants and the US. But I would be happy to see legal immigration increase. If conservatives are interested in the US maintaining its global status they will have to get behind this as well.

]]> By: dianne http://urbangrounds.com/2006/03/illegals-protest/#comment-15299 dianne Tue, 28 Mar 2006 22:58:29 +0000 http://urbangrounds.com/?p=758#comment-15299 Want stats? Here are reliable stats. Bottom line...Legalization will dramatically increase costs. The operative term is "dramatically". http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalfindings.html I am so furious at the moment, I best keep my mouth shut beyond this reference. Want stats? Here are reliable stats. Bottom line…Legalization will dramatically increase costs. The operative term is “dramatically”.
http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalfindings.html

I am so furious at the moment, I best keep my mouth shut beyond this reference.

]]> By: Preston http://urbangrounds.com/2006/03/illegals-protest/#comment-15291 Preston Tue, 28 Mar 2006 18:26:52 +0000 http://urbangrounds.com/?p=758#comment-15291 2- <i>All because of illegal immigration. </i> You have a link for that one? <i>Since preston likes to make up things about other posters,</i> Examples? <i>There is no right to state welfare benefits in the 14th amendment. </i> They have the rights of any other American citizen. 2-
All because of illegal immigration.
You have a link for that one?

Since preston likes to make up things about other posters,
Examples?

There is no right to state welfare benefits in the 14th amendment.
They have the rights of any other American citizen.

]]> By: 2 http://urbangrounds.com/2006/03/illegals-protest/#comment-15285 2 Tue, 28 Mar 2006 18:01:17 +0000 http://urbangrounds.com/?p=758#comment-15285 <i>Wow- 2, strong rebuttal. </i> It was. Sorry you missed the point. There is no right to state welfare benefits in the 14th amendment. <i>You and Zacharias Moussaoui must have gone to the same debate school. </i> And you're too engrossed in your latest issue of Jack & Jill Magazine. Wow- 2, strong rebuttal.

It was. Sorry you missed the point. There is no right to state welfare benefits in the 14th amendment.

You and Zacharias Moussaoui must have gone to the same debate school.

And you’re too engrossed in your latest issue of Jack & Jill Magazine.

]]> By: 2 http://urbangrounds.com/2006/03/illegals-protest/#comment-15284 2 Tue, 28 Mar 2006 17:57:03 +0000 http://urbangrounds.com/?p=758#comment-15284 <i>Please try to refrain from out-and-out personal attacks against each other. </i> Since preston likes to make up things about other posters, I thought turnabout was fair play. Please try to refrain from out-and-out personal attacks against each other.

Since preston likes to make up things about other posters, I thought turnabout was fair play.

]]> By: 2 http://urbangrounds.com/2006/03/illegals-protest/#comment-15283 2 Tue, 28 Mar 2006 17:55:30 +0000 http://urbangrounds.com/?p=758#comment-15283 Chris, it means they are entitled to welfare benefits. My point is that we have to pay for people coming here illegally. The thread is about illegal immigration, isn't it? If I am seriously injured and can't find an emergency room open because so many have been forced to close, I may not be alive for terrorists to blow me up. If I can't afford my own insurance premiums because they are astronomical because of the costs of treating illegal aliens, again, I'm screwed. Housing is unaffordable. The infrastructure is falling apart. All because of illegal immigration. Granting an another amnesty is not going to solve the problem. Chris, it means they are entitled to welfare benefits. My point is that we have to pay for people coming here illegally. The thread is about illegal immigration, isn’t it? If I am seriously injured and can’t find an emergency room open because so many have been forced to close, I may not be alive for terrorists to blow me up. If I can’t afford my own insurance premiums because they are astronomical because of the costs of treating illegal aliens, again, I’m screwed. Housing is unaffordable. The infrastructure is falling apart. All because of illegal immigration. Granting an another amnesty is not going to solve the problem.

]]> By: Preston http://urbangrounds.com/2006/03/illegals-protest/#comment-15277 Preston Tue, 28 Mar 2006 16:32:32 +0000 http://urbangrounds.com/?p=758#comment-15277 <i>2, im just basically showing how poor our border is protected. </i> Chris, perhaps you underestimate the wiliness of pregnant women... 2, im just basically showing how poor our border is protected.

Chris, perhaps you underestimate the wiliness of pregnant women…

]]> By: chris http://urbangrounds.com/2006/03/illegals-protest/#comment-15275 chris Tue, 28 Mar 2006 15:46:00 +0000 http://urbangrounds.com/?p=758#comment-15275 2, im just basically showing how poor our border is protected. I dont care if this kid has the same rights now that he is american. But just think of some terrorist coming across and blowing up your family. I doubt that you will feel the same way then. It is quite easy to simply catch a plane to someplace in mexico, then go across the border and do some damage. My point was that our border security is a joke. If a pregnant woman is able to cross without getting caught, think of what can happen when a few people with bombs come over. 2, im just basically showing how poor our border is protected. I dont care if this kid has the same rights now that he is american. But just think of some terrorist coming across and blowing up your family. I doubt that you will feel the same way then. It is quite easy to simply catch a plane to someplace in mexico, then go across the border and do some damage. My point was that our border security is a joke. If a pregnant woman is able to cross without getting caught, think of what can happen when a few people with bombs come over.

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