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		<title>By: Robbie</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2006/04/jacobson-terminated/#comment-16189</link>
		<dc:creator>Robbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 03:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Enjoy your vacation, Preston.</description>
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		<title>By: 2</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2006/04/jacobson-terminated/#comment-16175</link>
		<dc:creator>2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2006 22:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Maybe you didnâ€™t read the link above:&lt;/i&gt;

Didn&#039;t have to. You addressed your cheap shot at me.   Where&#039;s your proof that I either harassed or criminally threatened anyone, let alone that I would be unfamiliar with pc422a?  lol! As far as the so called threats you quoted -- did you verify that they were actually made as opposed to made-up by leftards? Nah, I didn&#039;t think so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Maybe you didnâ€™t read the link above:</i></p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t have to. You addressed your cheap shot at me.   Where&#8217;s your proof that I either harassed or criminally threatened anyone, let alone that I would be unfamiliar with pc422a?  lol! As far as the so called threats you quoted &#8212; did you verify that they were actually made as opposed to made-up by leftards? Nah, I didn&#8217;t think so.</p>
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		<title>By: Preston</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2006/04/jacobson-terminated/#comment-16174</link>
		<dc:creator>Preston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2006 22:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok- one last thing before I go on vacation.

http://www.spj.org/ethics_code.asp


See ya.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok- one last thing before I go on vacation.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.spj.org/ethics_code.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.spj.org/ethics_code.asp</a></p>
<p>See ya.</p>
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		<title>By: Preston</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2006/04/jacobson-terminated/#comment-16171</link>
		<dc:creator>Preston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2006 20:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Only leftards have to be told threatening people with death/bodily injury is against the law. &lt;/i&gt;

Maybe you didn&#039;t read the link above:
&lt;i&gt;You will pay for your seditious activities. It is only a matter of
time...We are retired military snipers &amp; we are watching you...

...one a fine young American very, very soon puts his shiny gun barrel
up to your left temple and pulls the trigger.

We&#039;re coming to get you and when we do we&#039;ll hurt you..REAL BAD!&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Only leftards have to be told threatening people with death/bodily injury is against the law. </i></p>
<p>Maybe you didn&#8217;t read the link above:<br />
<i>You will pay for your seditious activities. It is only a matter of<br />
time&#8230;We are retired military snipers &amp; we are watching you&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;one a fine young American very, very soon puts his shiny gun barrel<br />
up to your left temple and pulls the trigger.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re coming to get you and when we do we&#8217;ll hurt you..REAL BAD!</i></p>
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		<title>By: 2</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2006/04/jacobson-terminated/#comment-16167</link>
		<dc:creator>2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2006 19:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Jeeze, 2, you sound a little sensitive. &lt;/i&gt;

Project much? Uh, you are the one freaking out because you can&#039;t control what people post about. 

&lt;i&gt;When youâ€™re harassing those students you might want to skirt around this:&lt;/i&gt;

Ah, yes! People demand free speech but if any one dare talk back to them, it&#039;s labeled harassment. Again, you project too much. 

&lt;i&gt;California Penal Code section 422: THREATS&lt;/i&gt;

What a waste of your time.  Only leftards have to be told threatening people with death/bodily injury is against the law. I am not a leftard, thank God.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Jeeze, 2, you sound a little sensitive. </i></p>
<p>Project much? Uh, you are the one freaking out because you can&#8217;t control what people post about. </p>
<p><i>When youâ€™re harassing those students you might want to skirt around this:</i></p>
<p>Ah, yes! People demand free speech but if any one dare talk back to them, it&#8217;s labeled harassment. Again, you project too much. </p>
<p><i>California Penal Code section 422: THREATS</i></p>
<p>What a waste of your time.  Only leftards have to be told threatening people with death/bodily injury is against the law. I am not a leftard, thank God.</p>
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		<title>By: Preston</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2006/04/jacobson-terminated/#comment-16157</link>
		<dc:creator>Preston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2006 18:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;3) the one trying to obscure the issues by demanding people discuss what you want to discuss all the time. &lt;/i&gt;

Jeeze, 2, you sound a little sensitive.  

FYI-

When you&#039;re harassing those students you might want to skirt around this:

&lt;i&gt;California Penal Code section 422: THREATS
Any person who willfully threatens to commit a crime which will result in death or great bodily injury to another person, with the specific intent that the statement, made verbally, in writing, or by means of an electronic communication device, is to be taken as a threat, even if there is no intent of actually carrying it out, which, on its face and under the circumstances in which it is made, is so unequivocal, unconditional, immediate, and specific as to convey to the person threatened, a gravity of purpose and an immediate prospect of execution of the threat, and thereby causes that person reasonably to be in sustained fear for his or her own safety . . .&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>3) the one trying to obscure the issues by demanding people discuss what you want to discuss all the time. </i></p>
<p>Jeeze, 2, you sound a little sensitive.  </p>
<p>FYI-</p>
<p>When you&#8217;re harassing those students you might want to skirt around this:</p>
<p><i>California Penal Code section 422: THREATS<br />
Any person who willfully threatens to commit a crime which will result in death or great bodily injury to another person, with the specific intent that the statement, made verbally, in writing, or by means of an electronic communication device, is to be taken as a threat, even if there is no intent of actually carrying it out, which, on its face and under the circumstances in which it is made, is so unequivocal, unconditional, immediate, and specific as to convey to the person threatened, a gravity of purpose and an immediate prospect of execution of the threat, and thereby causes that person reasonably to be in sustained fear for his or her own safety . . .</i></p>
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		<title>By: 2</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2006/04/jacobson-terminated/#comment-16150</link>
		<dc:creator>2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2006 17:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Who cares?&lt;/i&gt;

You do. Who made you the arbitrator of what will be discussed on this or Malkin&#039;s blog or who determines what is relevant or not? You are either a 1) control freak; 2) a totalitarian; or 3) the one trying to obscure the issues by demanding people discuss what you want to discuss all the time. 

The people criticizing Malkin are the jackasses. And yes, there is a difference between one who obtains personal info by hacking into computers and publishing it on the internet and those who by their own volition post information and invite people to contact them, but whine when people use it to criticize them.

Now excuse me while I send off some more emails to Sam, Dave, and Jan.  lol!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Who cares?</i></p>
<p>You do. Who made you the arbitrator of what will be discussed on this or Malkin&#8217;s blog or who determines what is relevant or not? You are either a 1) control freak; 2) a totalitarian; or 3) the one trying to obscure the issues by demanding people discuss what you want to discuss all the time. </p>
<p>The people criticizing Malkin are the jackasses. And yes, there is a difference between one who obtains personal info by hacking into computers and publishing it on the internet and those who by their own volition post information and invite people to contact them, but whine when people use it to criticize them.</p>
<p>Now excuse me while I send off some more emails to Sam, Dave, and Jan.  lol!</p>
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		<title>By: Preston</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2006/04/jacobson-terminated/#comment-16149</link>
		<dc:creator>Preston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2006 16:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pretty classy, 2.  

Yes, it is a pretty irrelevant topic: while our country is at war and we&#039;re running 400 billion dollar deficits among other issues we&#039;re debating the actions of 3 students at a college you&#039;d never heard of before.  Who cares?

It&#039;s the same technique the right uses constantly: war&#039;s going badly?  Whoa- look over there- there are some idiots in California doing something objectionable!  Even though these individuals are accountable to no one but themselves.  Michelle Malkin&#039;s entire site seems to be dedicated to gawking at the stupid actions of private individuals rather than looking at the stupid actions of elected officials and people with power- it&#039;s simply a technique to divert attention from issues that matter. 

But I praise you for absorbing the techniques so well.  For instance, Michelle Malkin is criticized for being a jackass by posting the addresses of private individuals and you counter with &lt;strong&gt;anonymous&lt;/strong&gt; hackers who have done the same thing.  Unfortunately, neither I or anyone else  have the ability to hold anonymous hackers accountable for their actions- we can both complain about it but &lt;strong&gt;it won&#039;t change a thing.&lt;/strong&gt;  However, when we complain about elected officials we might just get our way (pretending for a second that we found a topic on which we agreed).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty classy, 2.  </p>
<p>Yes, it is a pretty irrelevant topic: while our country is at war and we&#8217;re running 400 billion dollar deficits among other issues we&#8217;re debating the actions of 3 students at a college you&#8217;d never heard of before.  Who cares?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the same technique the right uses constantly: war&#8217;s going badly?  Whoa- look over there- there are some idiots in California doing something objectionable!  Even though these individuals are accountable to no one but themselves.  Michelle Malkin&#8217;s entire site seems to be dedicated to gawking at the stupid actions of private individuals rather than looking at the stupid actions of elected officials and people with power- it&#8217;s simply a technique to divert attention from issues that matter. </p>
<p>But I praise you for absorbing the techniques so well.  For instance, Michelle Malkin is criticized for being a jackass by posting the addresses of private individuals and you counter with <strong>anonymous</strong> hackers who have done the same thing.  Unfortunately, neither I or anyone else  have the ability to hold anonymous hackers accountable for their actions- we can both complain about it but <strong>it won&#8217;t change a thing.</strong>  However, when we complain about elected officials we might just get our way (pretending for a second that we found a topic on which we agreed).</p>
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		<title>By: 2</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2006/04/jacobson-terminated/#comment-16145</link>
		<dc:creator>2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2006 14:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A lot of statements have been made but I have not seen them come directly from the three  people involved. Malkin originally linked to an indymedia website that had posted the press release. At least 4 indymedia website published the press release. I see now they have removed the names and contact info. But what they still haven&#039;t removed almost two years later and after repeated demands are the names and personal info that was obtained illegally from the Protest Warriors servers. 

And again, press releases are published to the internet. If they don&#039;t want people reading them and using the contact information, they shouldn&#039;t publish them to the internet.  Luckly, I copied the names of Sam Aranke (714 458-2471 saranke@ucsc.edu), David Zlutnick (805 698-6228 dzlutnic@ucsc.edu) and Janine Ramona (707 496-3530 jgcarmon@ucsc.edu) because I haven&#039;t yet had time to get a hold of them and tell them there actions are despicable and criminal and as a taxpayer, I am intend to urge the federal government to stop funding UCSC. Demonstrating is one thing but the students were committing criminal acts. 

And if you truly thought this topic was irrelevant you wouldn&#039;t have used so many sleezy arguments  pretending to address it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of statements have been made but I have not seen them come directly from the three  people involved. Malkin originally linked to an indymedia website that had posted the press release. At least 4 indymedia website published the press release. I see now they have removed the names and contact info. But what they still haven&#8217;t removed almost two years later and after repeated demands are the names and personal info that was obtained illegally from the Protest Warriors servers. </p>
<p>And again, press releases are published to the internet. If they don&#8217;t want people reading them and using the contact information, they shouldn&#8217;t publish them to the internet.  Luckly, I copied the names of Sam Aranke (714 458-2471 <a href="mailto:saranke@ucsc.edu">saranke@ucsc.edu</a>), David Zlutnick (805 698-6228 <a href="mailto:dzlutnic@ucsc.edu">dzlutnic@ucsc.edu</a>) and Janine Ramona (707 496-3530 <a href="mailto:jgcarmon@ucsc.edu">jgcarmon@ucsc.edu</a>) because I haven&#8217;t yet had time to get a hold of them and tell them there actions are despicable and criminal and as a taxpayer, I am intend to urge the federal government to stop funding UCSC. Demonstrating is one thing but the students were committing criminal acts. </p>
<p>And if you truly thought this topic was irrelevant you wouldn&#8217;t have used so many sleezy arguments  pretending to address it.</p>
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		<title>By: preston</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2006/04/jacobson-terminated/#comment-16143</link>
		<dc:creator>preston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2006 11:10:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suspect the amount of money we bring home in 10 years will have much more to do with global economic trends and whether or not future trillion-dollar tax breaks go to the top 1% or to the middle class than the effects of immigration.

&lt;i&gt;Across the entire labor force, the effect of illegal immigrants was zero, because the presence of uneducated immigrants actually increased the earnings of more educated workers, including high school graduates. For instance, higher-skilled workers could hire foreigners at low wages to mow their lawns and care for their children, freeing time for these workers to earn more. And businesses that exist because of the availability of cheap labor might also need to employ managers.

...

Mr. Katz agreed that the impact was modest, and it might fall further if changes in trade flows were taken into account â€” specifically, that without illegal immigrants, some products now made in the United States would likely be imported.&lt;/i&gt;
http://tinyurl.com/o92fg

That said, Congress sure does seem to vacation a lot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect the amount of money we bring home in 10 years will have much more to do with global economic trends and whether or not future trillion-dollar tax breaks go to the top 1% or to the middle class than the effects of immigration.</p>
<p><i>Across the entire labor force, the effect of illegal immigrants was zero, because the presence of uneducated immigrants actually increased the earnings of more educated workers, including high school graduates. For instance, higher-skilled workers could hire foreigners at low wages to mow their lawns and care for their children, freeing time for these workers to earn more. And businesses that exist because of the availability of cheap labor might also need to employ managers.</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
<p>Mr. Katz agreed that the impact was modest, and it might fall further if changes in trade flows were taken into account â€” specifically, that without illegal immigrants, some products now made in the United States would likely be imported.</i><br />
<a href="http://tinyurl.com/o92fg" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/o92fg</a></p>
<p>That said, Congress sure does seem to vacation a lot.</p>
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