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Left by austinsnews.net | Calibrating for hype on July 13th, 2006 at 3:30 am

This won’t be the last we see/hear from noora. She is the consumate death row groupie.

Left by Anonymous on July 13th, 2006 at 9:52 am

damn… even deathrow inmates get cuter girls than i do.

Left by anonymous on July 13th, 2006 at 10:19 am

I was there in the execution chamber, but I wasn’t the one consoling Sean’s wife Noora.

Left by Michelle on July 13th, 2006 at 11:08 am

Noora claims *here that she and O’Brein were married (thought not via an official ceremony) on July 7 — just four days before O’Brein was put to death.

That’s called, being single.

Noora claims she is a writer and also investigative journalist, but a few months earlier, she was talking about starting adult school and taking Finish 101, our equivelant of freshman English. Noora is a good example of anyone can call themselves anything on the internet: writer, journalist, married . . .

Left by Anonymous on July 13th, 2006 at 12:37 pm

Maybe, Michelle, aka Sewergrrl, caught the imaginary bouquet at the unofficial ceremony for the non-existant marriage?

Left by Anonymous on July 13th, 2006 at 12:40 pm

I had the misfortune to talk with noora once, she was clearly an attention seeker and something of a fantasist. She was pleasant and polite, but desperate to be drawn on the topic of her supposed ‘wedding’.

Left by ben on July 13th, 2006 at 12:49 pm

I think it’s a little nutty myself, the whole prison love thing. But who am I to tell people who they can and cannot love? They were legally married.

Left by Michelle on July 13th, 2006 at 12:49 pm

ODE TO NOORA

Oh Noora oh Noora
O’Brien adores ya
‘Write me some filthy sex notes’ he implores ya
And of course you do, sitting safe in Helsinki
Writing to help him jerk off, his murdering winkie.

However the thought of that lethal injection
Goes someway to cooling this killer’s erection.
And at least he’ll be safe from your sexual infection.
When he’s gone will you cope with your social rejection?

How stupid I am, of course you will
You have plenty of other boyfriends who kill.
I’m sure every night you thank God, Jesus too
That victims have died so you have something to do.

If murdering stopped, and Death row was clear
You’d have to confront your biggest fear
Being left all alone with a failing career
But killing continues so don’t shed a tear.

Oh Noora oh Noora how low can you go
I’ve just read your posts on the PTO
The injection, don’t worry, he will not feel a thing
And at least he’ll be safe from John William King

Left by We love ya Noora (u nut) on July 13th, 2006 at 12:50 pm

I doubt it Michelle, ie the legal part.

She has another couple of DR guys anyway to help her get over him, one suspects she will be engaged again in no time at all

Left by Sam on July 13th, 2006 at 12:51 pm

I’m sure you weren’t comforting her sewergirl aka Michelle, rather you were probably working out how best to exploit the situation for your own advantage over at your fansite lostvault. What were you doing? Working out which lyrics Cassi aka lene could post about what a great guy he was? (see Death row groupies thread about Lene)

Left by ben on July 13th, 2006 at 12:57 pm

If the marriage is not official, it’s not legal. If that is in error, than Noora, the writer, should choose her words more carefully. Though, I doubt she has been, is not now, or will ever be concerned with accuracy and truth.

Left by Anonymous on July 13th, 2006 at 1:08 pm

But who am I to tell people who they can and cannot love?

How about not providing a forum where those women with no self-esteem can seek encouragement for hooking up with murderers?

Left by Anonymous on July 13th, 2006 at 1:10 pm

Noora and Sean were married legally, I saw the signed marriage certificate.

You all cannot bother me, so trying to is a waste of your time. I have no motives or exploitations in process for my “fansite” LostVault. Just because I own a pen pal website doesn’t mean I agree with prison love…if you read my posts, you would know it’s no secret that I feel this way. It’s not my place to tell people people how to live their lives - is it your place to do so?

Lene has nothing to do with Sean, so bringing her up here is futile.

Left by Michelle on July 13th, 2006 at 1:15 pm

er, exactly, and providing DEDICATED sections to love poems/songs and other such fansite activity. How about you stop encouraging murder worshippers with your deictaed sections on advice and ban people from posting lonely hearts adverts for the murdering friends…. those suggestions should keep you going for a while Sewerrat

Left by sam on July 13th, 2006 at 1:16 pm

How about not providing a forum where those women with no self-esteem can seek encouragement for hooking up with murderers?

How did that even relate to what you quoted from me?

Left by Michelle on July 13th, 2006 at 1:18 pm

Futile? I have no idea what you mean, she is however another example of a woman who loves killers, love to dramatise them and loves to dedicate love songs to them. Futile (????) who knows, relevamnt….. certainly?

As for getting to you, well we know that, had you a conscience you would not provide the service you do.

Left by ben on July 13th, 2006 at 1:18 pm

I don’t encourage a thing, but let others do what they want. I accept people for who they are, not who I want them to be. You don’t know a thing about me, but why would you take a minute to even care about anyone that doesn’t think the way you do? I’m not going to tell you how to live your life with all your hostility, so you shouldn’t tell me how to live mine with acceptance and an open mind.

People change if they want to and some do change, like it or not.

Left by Michelle on July 13th, 2006 at 1:27 pm

Oh I know you pretty well, we have spoken at length when I accessed your site. You know exactly what you are doing. I have no hostility in my life except towards murderers and murdererphiles. Indeed my dear, it is you who does not know me. We all have some hostility, just as you clearly do towards the victims of murder and their surviving relatives, hence your repeated attempts to turn the men that destroyed their lives into heroes.

Explain to me how YOU have take minute to thinkabout say, the parents of Pena and ertman when you decided to try to make their daughters killers into heroes. If you can, please do, if not, I’ll take it that you are not only a murdererphile, but a hypocrite.

Left by ben on July 13th, 2006 at 1:37 pm

Noora and Sean were married legally, I saw the signed marriage certificate.

Yet, noora calls it unofficial.

Just because I own a pen pal website doesn’t mean I agree with prison love…if you read my posts, you would know it’s no secret that I feel this way.

You provide a forum that these women use to support their poor choices. If you had a forum for pedophiles, where they can meet and encourage each other in their predetory habits, merely saying you don’t agree doesn’t let you off the hook.

It’s not my place to tell people people how to live their lives -

But it is your place to provide a forum which encourages women to make destructive choices? Right.

is it your place to do so?

Absolutely!

Left by Anonymous on July 13th, 2006 at 1:38 pm

Asking for people to write him or asking someone to send a shout out to a radio show for him constitues him a hero? I have never make him (or anyone) out to be an idol.

I knew him for the last 2½ years of his life. He admitted his guilt to me and expressed remorse more than once. I know that doesn’t make up for what he did to those 2 girls, but I hope the Ertmans and Penas found some peace from his apology and execution.

Left by Michelle on July 13th, 2006 at 1:52 pm

You provide a forum that these women use to support their poor choices. If you had a forum for pedophiles, where they can meet and encourage each other in their predetory habits, merely saying you don’t agree doesn’t let you off the hook.

Loving someone in prison isn’t ILLEGAL. Try again.

And “Anonymous” why don’t you put yourself out here with your real identity?

Left by Michelle on July 13th, 2006 at 1:54 pm

Loving someone in prison isn’t ILLEGAL. Try again.

Providing a forum that encourages women to hook up and be used by murderers may not be illegal but it sure as hell not ethical or moral. Try again.

And “Anonymous” why don’t you put yourself out here with your real identity?

Why? Do you think typing in a name will make me any less anonymous? And why would anyone want a woman who really doesn’t give a damn about others and associates with sociopaths to know their true name?

Left by Anonymous on July 13th, 2006 at 2:12 pm

I wonder where Noora was registered? Or what her by proxy wedding colors were? Do they throw a bouquet?? I wonder which background she chose for their wedding pictures… was it among the beautiful scenery of some tropical island, or in front of a baby grand in a 4-star venue? hhhmmmm….

I’ve seen how they can anhance your pictures… so not to be embarrassed to share with family and friends.

Left by kw on July 13th, 2006 at 2:12 pm

I’ve seen how they can anhance your pictures… so not to be embarrassed to share with family and friends.

I think it’s limited to removing the reflection from the security glass. lol!

Left by Anonymous on July 13th, 2006 at 2:21 pm

I’ve seen how they can anhance your pictures… so not to be embarrassed to share with family and friends.

What does “anhance” mean?

Left by Michelle on July 13th, 2006 at 3:08 pm

It means that those [you] who resort to spelling flames lose the debate.

Left by Anonymous on July 13th, 2006 at 3:22 pm

I think “anhance” would mean “the absence of enhancement” — but that doesn’t make any sense *grin*

Left by Robbie on July 13th, 2006 at 3:26 pm

There is no debate here - it’s you all telling me I have no ethics or morals for my choice to provide a discussion forum for prison pen pals. You detest me without knowing me and there’s nothing I can do to change your mind, even if I tried. This is a waste of my time and yours too…that is unless you get off on putting people down to feel better about yourself.

Left by Michelle on July 13th, 2006 at 3:35 pm

Poor you! lol! Because you are unable to respond to a particular point does not mean “there is no debate here” — only that you lose. As far as thinking you’re important for anyone to detest, get over yourself.

Left by Anonymous on July 13th, 2006 at 3:40 pm

I can respond to anything you put on the table, but since it won’t be what you want to hear, it will go on forever. Maybe you have time to sit here and argue with someone all day, but I have murderers to write and prison love affairs to defend…and I might even make someone a hero today! So much to do, so little time.

Left by Michelle on July 13th, 2006 at 3:53 pm

What a hypocrite you are! You run a forum that bans people at the drop of a hat for straying from your party line. I guess you’re just not use to people disagreeing with/not sucking up to you, huh?

Left by Anonymous on July 13th, 2006 at 4:24 pm

My apologies for the type-o. It’s ‘enhancement’…

http://www.friendsbeyondthewall.com/pbtw/photos.html

Maybe an adventurous under-water scene with you and your ‘Boo’ to hide the bullet-proof glass… should be easy to photoshop a scuba respirator or a snorkel into the mouths and Ctrl + V come fishies…

Left by kw on July 13th, 2006 at 4:45 pm

Ha! I thought you were kidding. Yes, one should be able to pretend that they and their psycho/sadist/rapist/murdering boyfriend are standing in front of a gazebo in a rain forest.

Left by Anonymous on July 13th, 2006 at 6:40 pm

Michelle,

I will try and be fair with you in respect of the comments made above.

Firstly, the people on the blog who refuse to accept that people can change are not thinking straight at all. they forget that O’Brien was a kid at te time of his crime so he may well have matured and felt deep remorse. This is why I am anti DP.

However, you are also incorrect. Your site really does gllorify murderers. There is a section where women dedicate songs such as ‘Hero’ and ‘Angels’ to murderers!!! (i note that you personally don’t, but you do have the power to stop this type of brazen hypocrisy, yet you don’t (Let me ask you, would you allow me to post a song calling the executioner of O’ Brien a hero? I doubt it!) Women openly barter for attention from each other, competing over their pen pals. Please look at the posts of Dana for example. Other talk about how much ‘fun’ it is writing to murderers. The poster known as Lene for exmple seems to think that the objections of MVS are just a big joke.

I have no problem with those writing to men on death Row for support, i do have a problem with the type of blatant groupie mania you seem to encourage. If you would allow me, I could recommend the site human writes, it also offers the chance for people to write letters of support to those in the darkest corners of the world, but it screens potential pen pals for those addicted to drama. Your site does not, indeed it seems to encourage and placate those who should not be able to write to vulnerable prisoners.

I hope you take my comments in the spirit that they are meant, as constructive and honest feedback.

In conclusion, of course some of the comments above are harsh, you however are certainly not 100% blameless for these people’s views. I campaign against the Death penalty and ofen people mistake me for the type of woman who frequents your site and thus fail to take me seriously. You are doing more harm than good to the anti cause and executions will continue like O’Briens, until we can show the world that being anti does not equate to being

a) Attention seeking
b) Dramatic
c) mentally unstable
d) Desperate.

Please please please help us to make justice whatit should be.

Left by Liam on July 14th, 2006 at 11:13 am

LostVault is not completely anti-dp, it’s only a small portion of the site. We have pen pal ads and writers for general population in addition to death row.

The song lyrics? They are posted by everyone and not necessarily dedicated to a specific inmate unless mentioned therein. Many of my members don’t even write to DR inmates. I actually think I posted some song lyrics in that thread, but I am not involved with any inmate on a romantic level. I am getting married in the spring, but to a man that does not, nor has ever had numbers following his name.

To set the record straight, I am NOT an activist on any level. I provide a place where people can talk about their experiences and let them do as they please, as long as they aren’t flaming each other, participating without the sole intention of causing disruption, and keeping things civil. While many may not agree with what I’m doing, I don’t really care.

I will agree with you Liam, that there are some people who make your campaigning harder than it should be. A lot of these women (and men) that fall in love with inmates are mentally off in some way, but some of them aren’t completely gone. I don’t really care what they do with their lives because it doesn’t affect my life. Live and let live…

Can a pro-dp person tell me, without being insulting on purpose, why you care so much what others do with their lives if it doesn’t affect you?

Left by Michelle on July 14th, 2006 at 11:58 am

so couldn’t you help out a little a limit the drama queen crap they produce? I mean, I believe you generally cared about Sean, until the likes of the characters you are aware of get out of the deabte, such executions will continue on and on and on.

Personally, I understand the Pro DP position, when they see the likes of Lene, dana and others acting in the way they do, it is no suprise they get angry. Supporting the condemned is one thing, making a show of it and revelling in the drama is quite another. All antis who I know personally feel the same, that these people are not really antis, they are simply cling ons. They are akin to the pro who whoooooops and parties over every execution…. frankly a waste of space.

Glad you replied to me.

Left by Liam on July 14th, 2006 at 12:51 pm

The poster known as Lene for exmple seems to think that the objections of MVS are just a big joke.

No, I don’t think objections of MVS are a joke. I can’t say I understand what MVS are going through when they lose a loved one to murder, but I can imagine.

Left by Lene on July 14th, 2006 at 12:52 pm

Liam - do you have a problem with me? Do I know you? I can understand why people for the death penalty have an issue with me writing men and women on the row, but I don’t understand where you are coming from.

Left by Lene on July 14th, 2006 at 12:56 pm

I am sorry lene, but I really find your songs and the ‘fun manner’ you treat this subject to be really upsetting to serious antis not to mention pros and MVS.

Dedicating songs and being all ‘fun fun fun’ about murder and murderers is not healthy.

1) There is already a victim.

2) A man is going to be executed.

3) You prevent any serious discussion taking place.

4) The MVS will feel so much pain when they think that they can never sing a song or indeed dediucate anything to THEIR loved one again.

4) Why do you feel the need to boast about to whom you write? Why appear on message board after message board telling people about it? Couldn’t you just write/provide support in private were that really your main aim? Your pen friends would be just as well supported. I really would love to know why you feel that publicity is best. Does it improve the quality of the support you give to those on death Row? I doubt it very much. Or does it just lead the ignorant to believe they have fun filled lives surrounded by groupies. THAT is what people think and why they will not support LWOP as an option.

5) Because of the above I hold people like you responsible for the tide of pro DP feeling in America. I believe you are from Denmark or somewhere anyway so I doubt you care too much. So in short, O’Brien and many more will die unless you curb your dramatics because until people take the anti dp movement serious and see it as honest justice rather than a group of murderer coddlers, we will NEVER make progress.

Left by Liam on July 14th, 2006 at 1:03 pm

So Lene, yes… I have a problem with you, not on a personal level, but because of the CONSEQUENCES of your actions, which don’t affect YOU, but affect many others.

I only know you from reading your opinions, I don’t think we have ever spoken in private unless you use other screen names.

Left by Liam on July 14th, 2006 at 1:06 pm

I am from Norway, and that doesn’t make me care any less. I am sorry you see me - or my actions I should say -this way. I don’t recognize myself in your description of me. The death penalty is not something I see as FUN. It isn’t FUN for anyone involved on either sides.

I don’t know why the song lyrics keeps coming up - as the ones I post isn’t directed to anyone in particular.

I don’t feel publicity is the best. Had it not been for the other blog, most people wouldn’t know who I write. Only a few selected people know who else I write. I don’t like publicity and I don’t want it for my friends on the row either as they have enough going on as it is. I have been on other web sites. If you keep track of me so well you should know that I am no longer on message board after message board. As you say, it only creates drama, and I have no need for it. LostVault is different from other message boards though - as it isn’t really a debate forum. To debate the death penalty on message boards is usually never constructive, which is why I don’t do it anymore.

Anyway…

Left by Lene on July 14th, 2006 at 1:27 pm

Sorry if you didn’t like my response, I was just being honest. I don’t keep track of you and you are not the worst culprit, but I stand by my comments. I only responded directly to you as you appeared on here.

I really still do not understand why you need to write so much about who you write/why/how they want to ‘keep you to themselves’ etc etc etc Your post above just didn’t answer that.

I am honestly curious about your views, so I do appreciate your response. Can you not see ANY truth in what i posted above?

Left by Liam on July 14th, 2006 at 1:33 pm

The way I see it - the cause is one thing and the personal involvement is another. I keep it apart. On LostVault I will share my experiences with others on a personal level, but in other settings I will debate the death penalty ONLY without any personal feelings attatched.

Does that answer your questions?

Left by Lene on July 14th, 2006 at 2:55 pm

If you think Noora is sick, you should check out ‘ELSAPUNZI’ !
Now, THERE is an exa,ple of a deperate woman who can’t find love anywhere else!

Left by Anonymous on July 15th, 2006 at 5:40 am

Liam, I am pro death penalty but I respect the way that you present yourself here and your right to the viewpoint you hold. The only thing I take exception to is to say that you say that your reason for being anti death penalty is that it’s because of situations like Sean O’Brien maturing in prison from the time of his crimes and feeling remorse. To me, that makes no difference whatsoever in light of what he did. I grew up in Houston and remember the details coming out after the rapes/murders. During the gang rapes there were no less than 2 of these men on each girl at any time, something they later bragged about. Sean O’Brien also brutally raped and murdered a 27 year old mother of 2 and his own family was not even called to the stand on his behalf because they had remarked on how he had always showed a disturbing level of intentional cruelty. Remorse or no remorse, the world is a safer place without him.

Left by Tori on July 15th, 2006 at 8:09 am

O’Brien was a serial killer/rapost caught early in his career. It’s not something one grows out of.

Left by Anonymous on July 15th, 2006 at 9:52 am

rapost = rapist. I don’t want Michelle to be confused.

Left by Anonymous on July 15th, 2006 at 9:54 am

Michelle wouldn’t be confused…. she can spot a murderer/rapist to idolise long before anyone else could. Do not underestimate her killer loving powers.

Left by Ben on July 16th, 2006 at 9:44 am

Killers rock!

Wish I could chat, but I’ve got to go so I can promote one more to hero status before I run out of time today. Buh-bye!

Left by Anonymous on July 16th, 2006 at 9:57 am

Sorry, the above was mine…want to make sure I get full credit for the murderer love.

Left by Michelle on July 16th, 2006 at 9:59 am

Yuk, how horrible that post is. Michelle, I do not know how you sleep at night. You would not think murderers were so much fun were you on the other end.

Left by jen on July 16th, 2006 at 6:19 pm

Oh Please Jen, that’s what these people think I am, so why burst their bubbles? I tried intelligent conversation and it gets nowhere.

Left by Michelle on July 16th, 2006 at 6:41 pm

Go hang out with your groupie friends in the death chamber. It’s where you belong. You and your ilk are vultures.

Left by Anonymous on July 16th, 2006 at 8:26 pm

so what are you Michelle?

Left by jen on July 17th, 2006 at 1:09 pm

to me, she is a murdererphile who appears to think what she puts others through is funny.

Left by Ben on July 18th, 2006 at 12:46 pm

Oh Please Jen, that’s what these people think I am, so why burst their bubbles?

Uhm, because you can’t?

I tried intelligent conversation and it gets nowhere.

When you describe yourself with an adjective like ‘intelligent’, in context with conversation or anything else, sure it gets nowhere. You and ‘intelligent’ do not not even have a passing acquaintance. As they say, once a scum-pal, always a scum-pal. And if a scum-pal’s pal is executed by the State for the crime of willful and deliberate murder, there are plenty more caged animals where that first one, now at room temperature, came from.

Scum-pals are truly sickening mutations within the gene pool of humanity. To me, all scum-pals are Darwin Award nominees, as they are very likely guilty of the crime of being too stupid to live. But hey, that’s just me as I was never a mudererphile.

So let’s keep those lethal c*cktails flowing — just to show society’s love for murderers. Now that’s ‘tough love’ I can live with now, and continue to live with in the future. Because one less murderer being around now means that more true innocents are alive to contemplate such things in the future.

Left by RickZ on July 22nd, 2006 at 8:09 am

I was AGAINST the death penalty, until I read what that SLIME O’Brien did to those girls !!

ANYONE who is capable of THAT amount of vile behaviour - is PURE EVIL and CANNOT ‘ change ‘

End of.

Left by Elsa on July 23rd, 2006 at 12:47 pm

I will say this, I saw the the local polk county papger that they did apply for and were granted a marriage lisc.

Left by Anonymous on July 23rd, 2006 at 6:18 pm

What is so attractive about a murderer? They kill because they want too. I have no sympathy for someone on death row. Their stupidity and actions got them there, and now they have to live with it, or die whatever is given out by the courts, which is also no loss to society…

and why do people make love songs/dedicate love songs for death row inmates?? Their not special or important, their scuz….Earth’s scum..the song they get is ” another one bites the dust” or ” nahananh, nanahna, hey, hey, hey, good-bye…”

Left by Andie on July 23rd, 2006 at 10:56 pm

a shame, looks like they have both turned tail and ran, I was looking forward to some justification, but I guess you just can’t justify somethings.

Tori, thanks for your post and I respect your position, I favoured LWOP for the likes of O’Brien and always would, I was not and would never attempt to make a martyr/hero out of him as per the 2 girls.

Left by Liam on July 24th, 2006 at 12:36 pm

Date of Execution:
July 11, 2006

Offender:
O’Brien, Derrick

Last Statement:
I do. I am sorry. I have always been sorry. It is the worst mistake that I ever made in my whole life. Not because I am here, but because of what I did and I hurt a lot of people - you, and my family. I am sorry; I have always been sorry. I am sorry. You look after each other. I love you all. Be there for one another. Alright. But I am sorry; very sorry. I love you too. Alright.

Left by At least he was sorry on July 24th, 2006 at 5:18 pm

Again, ‘mistake’ is clearly defined as follows:

mis-take n. A misconception or misunderstanding.

Let’s try that word in a sentence…
‘When Jill balanced her checkbook, she found a mistake in her ledger balance.’

Not to be confused with ‘murder, clearly defined as follows:

mur-der n. The unlawful killing of one human by another, especially with premeditated malice.

Now a sentence with this word…
‘Sean O’Brien was an inhumane, evil piece of shit who deserved nothing short of the death penalty for his role in the murders of Elizabeth and Jennifer.’

Which brings to mind another word:

mo-ron n. A person of subnormal intelligence.

Sentence time…
‘Noora is a freaking moron.’

Left by kw on July 24th, 2006 at 9:07 pm

If he wouldn’t have expressed his remorse people would foam why didn’t he do it, and now when he did, it is not enough either. I didn’t know him and I don’t know this woman you ridicule. I only wonder what do you guys still want, he is dead now. Isn’t that justice served?

Left by At least he was sorry on July 25th, 2006 at 4:39 am

It’s not necessarily a want of anything… this is a blog for comments, opinions, expressions, etc… so until the moderator decides to close this thread, posting comments, opinions, expressions, etc., is still allowed. Hence the posts.

On that note… no, it was not justice served. He continued his life, had some wonderful transformation in life, found romance, got married (allegedly), then apologized for making a mistake.

Pulease.

O’Brien got off waaaaay too easy.

Left by kw on July 25th, 2006 at 9:13 am

Noora wrote to her groupie in prisontalk

http://www.prisontalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=203926&highlight=Sean%27s+letter:

“——————————————————————————–

Hello again and thank you about every word from the previous posts too (execution watch thread)

I appreciate each second you’ve taken your time to sit and think this. It really warms my heart to see your posts. Support from my WONDERFUL friends and truly caring people from PTO have given me lots of more strength to believe and fight together with the man I love.

I have let him know that he is also cared by many, who does not even know us, and sent him prints and posts, copies of emails etc. And if anyone wants to write him words of encouragement, just PM me your words and I will be happy to send some more mail to him. Thank you.

As his wife (hehe, as soon as we’ve got paper works done) and co-author of his book… I have a permission to share something from the last letter.

“I am hated man in Texas. It amazed me how many people really want me dead. Well it shouldn’t amaze me at all, but still it is really sad how many people are out foaming at the mouth and screaming about how I should die, calling me a monster without even knowing me. So many people want me dead. I am not a person they portray me, I never was, but how can I even defend myself. Noora, you have chosen a big challenge by loving me. People despise me. I know it, and I understand it, but no one has ever tried to learn who I really am, how I lived or anything else… …. …. …”

It broke my heart to read those words and know that it is absolutely true.

The Sean: I know, and his dear friends know: is such a pure, wise, caring and loving soul. I could stay in closet and not let anyone to know what I think or feel, but I will proudly stand by that wonderful man.

I don’t care about “hate mails” or other stuff. (Just received second one this morning) If someone ever wants to talk about their point of view: I am more than willing to see their side pf the story, but I definitely ignore people who don’t have wits for anything else than just blow up childish words: I’ll keep my pride, but I am always more than willing to conversations. I just hope that people wouldn’t be so black and white.

People who are pro-deathpenalty are saying that they are against violence or killing, but somehow it seems that they are very blood thirsty to see inmates executed: killed! They just defend themselves saying that is justice: what justice is that? How many more victims it brings I just cant get it, and oh yes, I have been thinking about it.

Yes, we are working on a book together with Sean.
I know that by myself I can’t ever abolish death penalty, but if I can have even one people to think; then I have succeed with him.
I am honored to be part of his project.

Through PTO I have had a chance to meet new people who are also friend of Sean’s and I am so happy to notice how many caring people he has in his life. Thank you!!!!

I think I need to end my chattering
All the best and keep the hope up!
Follow your dreams!

Proud to be Mrs O’B ;-)”

Left by Anonymous on July 25th, 2006 at 4:24 pm

People who are pro-deathpenalty are saying that they are against violence or killing, but somehow it seems that they are very blood thirsty to see inmates executed: killed!

Noora - You are so stupid. PERIOD. Your man was injected. His victims were brutally raped and murdered by your Man. How’s that considered as a KILL!!!!?!!!!

Left by Anonymous on July 25th, 2006 at 4:45 pm

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Oh Noora,
I can’t even type for crying.
That quote of Sean’s is just a true example of his wonderful understanding and belief in love as an eternal entity.
I can’t believe he has gone.
There is a hole in this world that Sean used to occupy and I don’t suppose it will ever be filled again.

Lots of love to you,
Rach xx

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Noora, you know how proud I am of you and you know how proud Sean will forever be of you. I am honoured to have you as my dear friend. As I type this I look at the beautiful picture you sent me of your wedding to Sean and I am touched by the love you both share. This love is eternal Noora; it will always be in your heart.
I know how hard it is for you right now; you are a wonderful, brave and special person and your journey has touched so many people.

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Thank you so much for sharing that with us Noora. Sean indeed showed us that a man is always so much more than the worst thing they ever did.
I know I am grateful for the lesson he taught me!
Sending you lots of peace and strength!!!

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Noora,

Thank you for taking the time to share post this. The words you said as well as Sean’s, are undoubtedly beautiful. They have left me feeling speechless. But I know that Sean’s memory will always live on, as well as the love that you two have for each other. Take care, we are all thinking of you. And although it is easier said than done, I hope you can stay strong and keep your head held high.

- Ben.

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Noora,

Thank you so much for posting that. Sean’s words are beautiful, the love you shared and continue to share is awesome. Most of us can only hope to love and be loved in that way.

I sat here at my computer on July 11, as many of us did, waiting hoping for good news, and then finally learning that Sean was gone from this earth. I have no words that would adequately convey how sorry I am. As Ben says, stay strong, you, Sean and his family and loved ones are in my thoughts and prayers.
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Left by AntiDp hero? on July 25th, 2006 at 6:00 pm

I wonder where Noora was registered? Or what her by proxy wedding colors were? Do they throw a bouquet?? I wonder which background she chose for their wedding pictures… was it among the beautiful scenery of some tropical island, or in front of a baby grand in a 4-star venue? hhhmmmm….

I’ve seen how they can anhance your pictures… so not to be embarrassed to share with family and friends.

That is really funny; But why is Noora so interested in murderers? Did Sean had something “special” that she had to leave Finland and come to Texas to see him and swept by his love behind prison, now facing the ultimate stage in hell? Was is it with gals falling heads over heels with murderers?!!!!!!!! Hmmm, please Noora and ANSWER that for us!!!

Left by Rebecca on July 25th, 2006 at 8:16 pm

Proud to be Mrs O’B ”

LISTEN UP! Looks like NOORA aka MrsO’B is proud to be a widow wife who murdered people!!!!

Left by Anonymous on July 26th, 2006 at 7:06 pm

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It is really difficult to find the words. I cannot explain what I am going through and I pray that no one ever has to go trough this nightmare… ever again. I personally hope that victim families got even a bit of peace to their hearts, because so many people are feeling emptiness at the moment. This revenge created too many new victims. On July 11th state of Texas killed a man, who was loved and cared by many. All of his several friends and family members are suffering now. We lost a very important person. Sean was always only worried about his loved ones, not ever about himself. He brought so much of sunshine, love and wisdom to everyone around him. Sean O’Brien was a true example of spiritual growth and change.

It is hard to carry on. I know I have so much to be grateful about and I know that love is forever, but at the moment I am hurting so much. I have to fight through this hell. I cannot still fully believe it all. I am reading one of his last letters to me, and I try to gain my strength from his words. Let me share a part:

“…should I be forced out of this world tomorrow you must go on living and love your life, don’t let any of this bring you down; don’t let it rob you of the magic of this life. Even though this all is hurting us, this life is wonderful, live it my love. Don’t wilt, flourish for me, enrich it, bloom and be the queen you are, shine my love. What I am saying? I am saying don’t close up, live in this world, enjoy your life, and live for us, don’t let these people win over our love. What we share is so powerful, so wonderful. We cannot allow people full of hate to weaken it. I love you, through you I understand love and I want your happiness whether I am here or not, then I can be happy, because I love you, I cherish you, I adore you, worship the essence of you. So be you and live, be happy, we have felt great love and if it comes to it I shall wait forever how long it takes for you to join me and then I shall never, ever let you go. Never again.”

I know that he is always deep in my heart and that he is still guiding and loving me, but I just miss him so much and I am sometimes full of hate to the state of Texas.

Thank you everyone. I know you all lived this with us, and Sean was also very touched about endless support. We both remained confident and happy, and we had really lovely, funny and wonderful visits. We didn’t let anyone or anything weaken our love and happiness. Of course last turning was a true shock (you just cannot be ever enough prepared), and what happened was something I cannot ever forget, but I try my best to value and to cherish all the good we had.

When I was standing beside my husband at the funeral home I promised to do all I could to keep his memory alive… do all the things he didnt have time to do. Many people could learn of his wisdom he gained during the past years. I am going to write that book together with some of his friends and there is also an idea of a foundation - to help people who are fighting through this madness.

Once again thank you for living with us.
Keep the faith and the fight.
Thinking of you…

Noora

SHE IS SUCH A FREAK BY NATURE!!!!

Left by More from the infamous Noora on July 29th, 2006 at 11:21 am

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Re: Sean Derrick O’Brien - Executed - Texas
To whomever mention Patricia Lopez - that is an allegation the media throws around. Most of us here KNOW the state of Texas would have put him on trial if they honestly thought he murdered her six month prior to the Ertman/Pena murders. Remember at that time a 17 year-old could receive the death penalty.

O’Brien was a kid when all this happened and yes, people can change. I knew him for a few years and can tell you that he was sorry, and not only when he was strapped to the gurney. He previously expressed guilt, remorse, shame…not just for his own loved ones, but for the harm he caused to everyone.

I’m not a death penalty supporter, but I’m no anti activist either. I can only speak from personal experience and tell you that when you witness your completely healthy friend take his last breath by lethal injection, you realize (if you didn’t previously) that it’s actually murder by the state.

http://www.prisonbid.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5998&page=2&pp=15

Left by His friend writes here: on July 29th, 2006 at 7:52 pm

I am a pro, but I think this all is going bit too far. What if someone on row is/was loved, what if a person loves someone on row, does it take something away from you?

Left by Astonished on July 29th, 2006 at 7:57 pm

I am a pro, but I think this all is going bit too far. What if someone on row is/was loved, what if a person loves someone on row, does it take something away from you?

Left by Astonished on July 29th, 2006

It has already gone way far when Sean O’Brien and the other murderers decided to take the precious lives of those two beautiful souls!”

Left by Anonymous on July 29th, 2006 at 11:16 pm

I wonder how these women would feel if it was their daughter/sister or even themselves who were brutally raped and killed as the victims were. This whole DP groupie thing disgusts me. Too bad they could strap them down with him so that they could join their man in the”better place”, ie hell, that he is now at.

Left by Crzyrussell on July 29th, 2006 at 11:35 pm

The DP groupies (especially NOORA) put me into a nauseation filled with anger and fustration. Obviously she and her groupies lacked attention from their families and friends. I think they’re all doing this for some kind of sick attention.

There weren’t any mentionings of NOORA and her groupies being at least sympathic for the victims’ families, only praising more and more for the ex Sean O’Brien!!!!

Left by Anonymous on July 30th, 2006 at 9:14 pm

His Friend… I think you’re a tad confused on a few things.

O’Brien was an adult. The girls he and those evil thugs brutally raped, tortured, and murdered were kids.

And what he did could hardly be construed as “harm”. That’s just downright preposterous. Guilt, remorse, and shame doesn’t even begin to identify what that POS should have felt.

I’m struggling with your personal experience here… watching your completely healthy friend take his last breath by lethal injection. As opposed to his victims? They were healthy too, but their last breath wasn’t as pleasant as O’Briens.

“Murder by the state.” whah-whah-whah….

Left by kw on July 30th, 2006 at 10:35 pm

I wonder how these women would feel if it was their daughter/sister or even themselves who were brutally raped and killed as the victims were. This whole DP groupie thing disgusts me. Too bad they could strap them down with him so that they could join their man in the”better place”, ie hell, that he is now at.

How would you feel if it was your father, brother or cousin strapped to the gurney?

Left by Anonymous on July 31st, 2006 at 8:16 am

Good point, anony. Excellent reiteration on your part. You must be the core of inspiration for the DR groupie population. You’ve moved me.

Left by kw on July 31st, 2006 at 11:15 am

I joined Prisontalk.com just to see what NOORA thinks about all of this going on at this forum. Here is what she has to say:

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“Misscookie”

I have already been informed about this page; but I haven’t visited there either, because I am not going to waste my energy for it.

Like I once post to this forum:

They are all entitled to their opinions and I respect that.

Our views and life experiences, ways and thoughts are all different and we must each of us do and feel and act in ways that work for us.

Nobody knows what it is like to walk in another’s shoes, so just as I probably can’t understand their views or acts, nor would I ever expect them to understand mine.

Arguing over views helps nobody and I choose not to do so.

I still follow my beliefs.

“Live and let live”

I just hope people who post there can get their satisfaction somehow, so they do not waste their energy for nothing.

Sincerely

Noora

Quote:
Originally Posted by misscookie
http://urbangrounds.com/2006/07/12/deathrow-groupies/

Left by misscookie on July 31st, 2006 at 12:59 pm

There weren’t any mentionings of NOORA and her groupies being at least sympathic for the victims’ families, only praising more and more for the ex Sean O’Brien!!!!

You havent done your homeworks.
This is from Prison Talk Online:

I personally hope that victim families got even a bit of peace to their hearts, because so many people are feeling emptiness at the moment. This revenge created too many new victims. On July 11th state of Texas killed a man, who was loved and cared by many. All of his several friends and family members are suffering now. We lost a very important person.

Left by Astonished on July 31st, 2006 at 2:36 pm

Astonished, here’s to you…

We lost a very important person.

Noora was referring to Sean O’Brien! Sean O’Brien - a very important person? I think not! Very important in what ways? That he contributed to the murderer of the young girls? I don’t hear everyone telling one another “Oh today, we lost a very important person. Sean O’Brien contributed so much in our lives. Please pray for him.” BLAH BLAH BLAH. O’Brien might put some “love” into Noora’s and her groupies’ lives, but sure didn’t do anything for me!!!! VERY IMPORTANT PERSON MY &!)@!!!!!

Left by For Astonished on July 31st, 2006 at 3:09 pm

More on O’Brien and Noora. See what other people have to sadly say about O’Brien and Ms. Noora.

http://boards.courttv.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=270547

Left by Ode To Noora on July 31st, 2006 at 3:19 pm

but sure didn’t do anything for me!!!! VERY IMPORTANT PERSON MY &!)@!!!!!

All of his several friends and family members are suffering now. We lost a very important person.

He wasnt important for you or for me, but she is writing about O’Briens friends and family members on their own support group.

Left by Astonished on July 31st, 2006 at 3:43 pm

I knew Noora because she waa one of my penpals. We had some good times writing to each other, unfortunately, her letters and e-mails stopped coming to me when she was hooked on fighting against Captial Punishment and devoted her times to O’Brien. My last letter to her was right before Sean O’Brien was supposed to be executed. Now I am wondering if my condolences means anything to her. All the best for Noora.

Left by A person who knew her on July 31st, 2006 at 4:24 pm

This post made me finally laugh, dont you pro-people have a life? When my friend was going through the same like Noora is going now they used to post lots of dirty, unessential and wrong information about her. But if you are her friend, you just dont feel like a true friend. You should contact her and talk to her instead of crying your heartache here, because your post had a certain tone. With all due respect you should feel ashamed of yourself. Have you been thinking to sell more information about her maybe old letters or photos. I am sure these pathetic pros could pay you few dollars?

My friend’s boyfriend was executed some months ago and I didnt feel like I was left outside, when she had her battle and didnt contact me all the time. Later she said she was sorry, but she had her hands full. All of her “friends” didnt understand her and they said she became proud and later she noticed she didnt have many friends left. That is sad. A true friend doesnt disappear, a true friend should stand by you for better and for worse. I do not know her, but I have friends on row and I know what it is like to live with fear. If they execute my friend someday I have to be prepared to lose some of my “free world friends”. That is so sad.

Left by To a person who used to "know" her on July 31st, 2006 at 5:17 pm

My last letter to her was right before Sean O’Brien was supposed to be executed. Now I am wondering if my condolences means anything to her.

How long it is since they executed him, few weeks?

Left by Anonymous on July 31st, 2006 at 5:20 pm

“Misscookie”I have already been informed about this page; but I haven’t visited there either, because I am not going to waste my energy for it.

It seems that she does not reach your condolences this way. This is pro blog and she is an anti.

Left by PS from anonymous on July 31st, 2006 at 5:28 pm

There weren’t any mentionings of NOORA and her groupies being at least sympathic for the victims’ families, only praising more and more for the ex Sean O’Brien!!!!

I knew him for the last 2½ years of his life. He admitted his guilt to me and expressed remorse more than once. I know that doesn’t make up for what he did to those 2 girls, but I hope the Ertmans and Penas found some peace from his apology and execution

Left by You should really read these posts on July 31st, 2006 at 6:14 pm

If they execute my friend someday I have to be prepared to lose some of my “free world friends”. That is so sad.

Good luck….I don’t know today’s trend is to make friends with people on DR.

Left by Samuel Adams Beer! on July 31st, 2006 at 6:41 pm

How would you feel if it was your father, brother or cousin strapped to the gurney?

Actually one of my family members didn’t even make it to the gurney, or at that time the chair. He was gunned dowm by the FBI in a set up. But you know what? He deserved it.

Left by Crzyrussell on July 31st, 2006 at 8:40 pm

Good luck….I don’t know today’s trend is to make friends with people on DR

Do you have to explain how you have chosen your friends?

Left by PS from anonymous on August 1st, 2006 at 1:40 am

This post made me finally laugh, dont you pro-people have a life? When my friend was going through the same like Noora is going now they used to post lots of dirty, unessential and wrong information about her. But if you are her friend, you just dont feel like a true friend. You should contact her and talk to her instead of crying your heartache here, because your post had a certain tone. With all due respect you should feel ashamed of yourself. Have you been thinking to sell more information about her maybe old letters or photos. I am sure these pathetic pros could pay you few dollars?

My friend’s boyfriend was executed some months ago and I didnt feel like I was left outside, when she had her battle and didnt contact me all the time. Later she said she was sorry, but she had her hands full. All of her “friends” didnt understand her and they said she became proud and later she noticed she didnt have many friends left. That is sad. A true friend doesnt disappear, a true friend should stand by you for better and for worse. I do not know her, but I have friends on row and I know what it is like to live with fear. If they execute my friend someday I have to be prepared to lose some of my “free world friends”. That is so sad.

To a person who used to “know” her, what in the fvck are you talking about?

Left by kw on August 1st, 2006 at 8:58 am

looks like O’Brien didn’t mention ld Noora in his goodbye speaches ahhhhhhh

Left by Ben on August 2nd, 2006 at 7:23 am

He didnt meantion anyone by name but’ cause she was telling him she loves him we could suppose that this one is for her. PTO tells about their last phone call and Obriens last letter for her and his friends.

I do. I am sorry. I have always been sorry. It is the worst mistake that I ever made in my whole life. Not because I am here, but because of what I did and I hurt a lot of people - you, and my family. I am sorry; I have always been sorry. I am sorry. You look after each other. I love you all. Be there for one another. Alright. But I am sorry; very sorry. I love you too. Alright.

Left by Astonished on August 2nd, 2006 at 1:12 pm

If you think Noora is sick, you should check out ‘ELSAPUNZI’ !
Now, THERE is an exa,ple of a deperate woman who can’t find love anywhere else!

But she just broke up?!

Left by ????? on August 2nd, 2006 at 1:16 pm

I think its wrong when people have more compassion for the rapists and murderers than they do for the victims.

Left by JMO on August 3rd, 2006 at 7:52 am

All the girls want to know whose’ the cutest boy on Death Row!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llr8skbPQos&search=death%20row

Left by Samuel Adams Beer! on August 3rd, 2006 at 7:55 am

Hey, someone who used to know her,

Glad you got a laugh out of Noora too, she really is a dispicable person isn’t she. She will be ok though, she gets the proceeds from his book, so that will keep her smiling, plus, she hs other DR friends.

Left by Ben on August 4th, 2006 at 1:31 pm

I wouldn’t be surprised if I hear about Noora getting involved with other DRs in a few months or so, after all this is what she’s against eh? “Innocent DRs” as she claimed.

Left by Mrs. Robinson on August 4th, 2006 at 8:30 pm

I’m not sure why she thinks anyone would publish her “book” let alone read it.

Left by Anonymous on August 5th, 2006 at 9:44 am

I’m not sure why she thinks anyone would publish her “book” let alone read it.

It’ll end up at the $1 booksheleves or they don’t carry them (only in Finland) because over here, any bookstore ownerse would be ambarrassed to even sell them and would be a slap in the face for the victims’ families.

Left by Cleveland rocks! on August 6th, 2006 at 7:56 am

She will market it as a love story ‘against the odds’ lol. Of course she claims to be a ‘journalist’ so perhaps she will attempt to generate her own publicity.

I’m sure the fools at PTO and the infants at Lost vault will snap a copy up though

Left by Ben on August 6th, 2006 at 10:34 am

If I do get a copy of her book, I would use it as toilet paper while camping or picking up my dog’s poop. =)

Left by Cleveland Rocks! on August 6th, 2006 at 8:14 pm

Noora is now myspacing with fellow death row groupies.

http://www.myspace.com/mrs_ob_0707

Left by My Comment on August 12th, 2006 at 9:10 am

Hello,

Long time lurker, new poster.

I just want to add my view of the death penalty. I am a married woman with two children. I’m educated, passionate and a good person. Now, with that out of the way i’d like to add this:

I have thought of murder. I have pictured killing someone in the most horrible fashion known to man. I made mental notes of how I would kill them that would bring the most pain and be the most horrific thing to ever happen to them and theirs. I’ve thought about killing for days on end and how satisfied I would be once the deed was done.

Terrible huh? But, have I killed? No. Would I kill? No. I know if I cross that line it’s crossed forever. I don’t think I would get away with it and I don’t think I could beat the rap. I know that If I cross that line I will be prosecuted, I will be jailed, and I most likely will be executed. I have no doubts or delusions about that. This is why alot of people I know are not dead right now. Consequences I don’t want to face. I don’t want my family to face and ultimately the victims family to face. A line most sane people wont cross…and yes, I am sane. So, jail and the death penalty are a deterrence. So, if anyone tries to say it’s not a deterrence, please point them in my direction.

Thank you for your time,

Veronica

Left by Veronica on August 12th, 2006 at 2:15 pm

Most of them are pretty though.
http://www.myspace.com/lostvault

Left by Paradise? on August 12th, 2006 at 5:05 pm

If you think Noora is sick, you should check out ‘ELSAPUNZI’ !
Now, THERE is an exa,ple of a deperate woman who can’t find love anywhere else!

But she just broke up?!

YES apparently but not before BORING the entire of humanity about her SAD relationship !!
She has others, so on to the next one for ‘ our ‘ elsa LOL !

Left by Anonymous on August 22nd, 2006 at 12:44 am

Getting dumped by some psycho on deathrow. That’s rich!

Left by Anonymous on September 1st, 2006 at 8:55 am

Ever since I stumbled upon the case in which two bright and innocent young girls - Jennifer Ertman and Elizabeth Pena - were brutally and sadistically gang raped and murdered, I have been deeply moved to learn more about and details of this viscious act and the kind of subhuman entity ( I cannot think of any animal on the face of this planet that would act in the manner of the likes of Sean O’Brien). This monster received a far easier and painless end than he deserved, one not granted on his young victims; their suffering can only be imagined.

However, this story does not end in the just execution of a person so twisted and evil it should only be applauded. No, as sickening as it is, I managed to find something that dwarfs the level of nausea felt when learning the full horrific details of the two young victims. This thing that repulsed me was manifest in the appearance of DP lovers - scumpals as they are so aptly known - and good old Sean, or OB, as he is affectionately known, could count on one such “person” to see beyond the prison glass and sterile incarceration block, and find encapsulated within his prison cell, a ’special, kind and caring man,’ if you don’t believe me log on to YouTube and see for yourself if you can stomach it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzvv-nP9BEk

If you do manage to stomach this revolting piece of filth and find the slightest tugging at your heart strings, please feel free to learn the true facts about this “caring friend” and “loving husband,” at the following link.
http://www.murdervictims.com/Voices/jeneliz.html

In fact, Sean O’Brien is not alone in finding himself idolised by infatuated groupies, who instead of worshipping film stars or rock idols, find themselves engaging in bizarre fantasies of love with a whole menagerie of sickening monsters, awaiting the death penalty for the heinous crimes they have committed. These sickos show no respect for the victims or their familes and seek to glorify the names of murderers, for what apparent reason I am left speachless.

One last parting shot on the expired Sean O’Brien, simply because this case in particular truly sickened me; his remorse came from knowing his fate, remorse for himself masked in hollow words to the victims.

And to the greiving widow Mrs Nora O’Brien, you are the epitomé of the devolution of humanity. The world is a better place without scum like Sean O’Brien. Instead of wasting all your time and energy into supporting someone who is clearly indefensible, why not try and reach out to the victims instead - or is it that notoriety and faux celebrité you so crave would not arrive in such a charitable pursuit.

Long may the memory of Jennifer and Elizabeth live on - and all the other true innocents taken from us.

Left by Darren on February 26th, 2007 at 6:34 pm

Darren — thanks for posting those links, and thanks for expressing in words what most of us have felt rotting in our guts…

Left by Robbie on February 26th, 2007 at 6:46 pm

Robbie - I just cannot get a grasp on the mentality of these people, whereby the sickening actions of this vile creature seem ignored or blissfully forgotten, all in the pursuit of creating a victim out of him. Normally I would say people like Noora need our pity because their lives are so obviously devoid of meaning they must seek a means to crave the attention they require. I feel no pity for her, or her ilk.

Here is another link straight from the pages of ‘You Couldn’t Make It Up‘ - now remember, if you have the strong constitution to visit this link, the person they are raining such praise and admiration for is a cowardly killer, who executed in cold blood two teenage girls after participating first in demeaning them in the gravest manner.

I have found myself reading these sycophantic posts with wonder and disbelief, but most of all with revulsion. Here’s one example from a poster - ‘Noora and Sean…..you are both an inspiration sent from heaven.’

Here’s another - ‘I’ll start off by saying that Sean (O.B.) is one of the nicest men that I have ever met. He is also a great example of how an individual can grow spiritually under difficult circumstances.’

Very interesting that last comment. If she had encounterd this pleasant sounding individual on the night of June 24, 1993 I’m sure she wouldn’t be alive today to praise this ‘beacon of humanity,’ yet there never seems any mention of the victims in these despicable threads, or indeed for the bravery of the victims family and friends. They seem without a voice to those who revel in the glorification of a heinous murderer - merely a vessel by which this monster was elevated to the status of an idol in the twisted little minds of those who praise him.

They are all dancing on the graves of Jenny and Elizabeth and sicken me beyond words!

Left by Darren on February 27th, 2007 at 5:42 am

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Gum disease has been responsible for many failed relationships. Find…

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