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Karol Sheinin Supports the use of Torture

And so do I

Karol Sheinin (at MichelleMalkin.com) thinks that torture is acceptable when “innocent lives are in imminent danger”.

I agree with her, 100%. It appears that the UK baby-milk bomb plot was twarted with information gleaned when one of the arrested terrorists was “broken” under interrogation. If thousands of innocent lives were saved by one pig-fucking terrorist having hot pokers put under his eye lids — then I’m OK with that.

I support the use of any treatment or technique of interrogation that works. Yes, I support the use of torture to get answers that might save American lives.

Ace weighs in:

I was just writing the left needs there to never be a coercive interrogation that results in useful intelligence if they are to maintain their absurd stance that avoiding coercion costs us nothing, as it’s not useful anyway.

If coercion or outright torture are sometimes useful, they have to retreat from that childish position and answer the more adult question, “How many innocent lives will you sacrifice to spare a terrorist pain and discomfort?”

Seriously, I’d like to know their answer to that, too.

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Posted by Robbie Cooper on Thursday, August 17th, 2006 | Trackback |

6 Responses to “Karol Sheinin Supports the use of Torture”

It appears that the UK baby-milk bomb plot was twarted with information gleaned when one of the arrested terrorists was “broken” under interrogation.

Actually, the ‘bomb threat’ was exposed when a British Muslim became concerned about the actions of some fellow Muslims.

The actions you condone regarding torture and the labeling of all Muslims as guilty until proven innocent jeopardizes this pipeline of information making the next threat more likely to occur.

Left by Preston on August 17th, 2006 at 11:02 am

Torture can never be justified. If someone has to resort to torture to get intelligence, they are incompetent.

I suggest you study methods developed by brigadier general David Irvine (Ret.) which are a kinder, gentler interrogation style: Legal under international military law, effective against the most stubborn enemy, and - above all - moral.

Left by Kuni on August 17th, 2006 at 8:31 pm

Kuni, you are an idiot. And have no idea what you are talking about. Are there more humane “interrogation” styles? Sure. But those take more time than straight up brutal torture does. And sometimes, time is more important.

When you need information NOW to save lives from an imminent attack (and Preston, 1 week is imminent enough to me), a little sleep deprivation or sensory deprivation just ain’t going to get the job done.

So let me ask you, Kuni — how many innocent American lives are you willing to sacrifice so that a single jihadist isn’t tortured for information?

Left by Robbie on August 17th, 2006 at 9:18 pm

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Left by Jones on August 18th, 2006 at 12:10 pm

How were they going to complete this mission if they didn’t have explosives, plane tickets, or passports? Seriously. If you know something more about the immediacy of this threat please tell me. I’ve read nothing since being stunned on Day 1 that has suggested that this was anything more than a pipe dream.

Regarding torture: can’t you realize that apart from being disgusting and utterly opposed to the principles of this country that it is an admission of defeat. If we are torturing Arabs we will not win the war on terror. It’s that simple.

What is it about America that you think is so special if it is ok for the President to torture people and listen to phonecalls without going through the standard procedures. Back when we were fighting the Soviet Union I thought that those were the principles that distinguished us from them.

Left by Preston on August 18th, 2006 at 10:00 pm

Apparently they did have explosives…and had already filmed their martyrdom videos.

Maybe we should have just waited until the actually blew up a few planes before we thought the threat was “imminent” enough to act on.

Left by Robbie on August 21st, 2006 at 11:44 am

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