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John Kerry Calls US Troops Stupid

Then claims it was a “botched joke”

A generation ago, John Kerry shit all over the honor of his fellow brothers-in-arms in Vietnam by saying that they were rapists and murderers. And now Kerry is at it again, insulting a whole nother generation of brave Soldiers, Marines, Airmen, and Sailors.

At a political rally for California’s Democratic challenger to Arnold Schwarzenegger for governor, Phil Angelides, Kerry told the Pasadena City College crowd to study hard and get an education — or wind up like the losers in the military:

“You know, education, if you make the most of it, if you study hard and you do your homework, and you make an effort to be smart, uh, you, you can do well. If you don’t, you get stuck in Iraq.”

Baically, Johnny just said that our all-volunteer US Armed Forces active in Iraq are made up of individuals who were not bright enough or sufficiently educated to evade military service to our country.

What the fuck, John? You are the biggest disgrace to have ever worn the uniform of the US Military (and that’s saying a lot, as Rep. John Murtha is a pretty big fucking disgrace in his own right).

Of course, once the shit hit the fan and Kerry’s remarks starting making the rounds, his handlers were are portraying Kerry’s remarks as nothing more than a poorly-delivered joke. Except it’s not funny.

The sad thing, Kerry’s “joke” got laughs. He and the liberal kids punks he was speaking too really do think that today’s soldiers are stupid and beneath them. Which couldn’t be further from the truth (as I’ve dispelled here and here).

You know who doesn’t think this is funny? The proud and brave men and women who comprise the American Legion.

The National Commander of The American Legion called on Sen. John Kerry to apologize for suggesting that American troops in Iraq are uneducated.

“As a constituent of Senator Kerry’s I am disappointed. As leader of The American Legion, I am outraged,” said National Commander Paul A. Morin. “A generation ago, Sen. Kerry slandered his comrades in Vietnam by saying that they were rapists and murderers. It wasn’t true then and his warped view of today’s heroes isn’t true now.”

Good job, Johnny. Way to become the topic of conversation on the week before your party hopes to take back control of of Congress.

Democrats aren’t too happy, either:

A Democratic congressman told ABC News Tuesday, “I guess Kerry wasn’t content blowing 2004, now he wants to blow 2006, too.”

So much for your 2008 Presidential dreams, Johnny.

Is it any wonder why Today’s Soldiers Hate the Democrat Party?

My final word on this? FUCK John Kerry, you worthless piece of shit (sincerely, a Veteran who left a prestigous private college after two year to join the US Army; who later received a BS in Professional Writing; who now writes complex documentation sets for real-time tactical command and control systems for network-centric warfighters. Maybe If I would have studied harder I wouldn’t have ended up stuck in Iraq back in 1991).

MORE: Annika:

What really happened is that John Kerry had a “Dixie Chicks” moment. Like Natalie Maines in England, Kerry thought he had a sympathetic audience of liberal college students to whom he could pander, by sharing a little inside humor. “Heh, heh, I know you guys despise the military and think they’re dummies. I do too. Ain’t I cool? Vote for Angelides.”

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OTHERS (and there’s a lot of them):

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19 Responses to “John Kerry Calls US Troops Stupid”

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Left by John Kerry Thinks You’re Stupid… | chez Diva on October 31st, 2006 at 10:47 pm

[...] I'm a Veteran who left a prestigous private college after my sophomore year to join the US Army to fight in the first Gulf War.After being medically separated for injuries sustained in combat, I earned a BS in Professional Writing. I now write complex documentation sets for real-time tactical command and control systems for network-centric warfighters. I doubt Mr. Kerry has a high-enough security clearance to even read the documents that I write. And even if he did, he'd have no effin-idea what they meant.Maybe if I would have studied harder I wouldn’t have ended up stuck in Iraq back in 1991. Maybe I could have made something more of myself.This veteran, along with the American Legion and the AMVETS think Mr. Jane Kerry owes us an apology. ——————– Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity. [...]

Left by John Kerry - Footballguystalk on November 1st, 2006 at 9:09 am

I heard his explanation that he forgot the word “us” in his “joke” which explained his supposed reference to Bush. So, now he’s accusing Bush of not doing his homework in school? Give me a break, that had nothing to do with Bush. It had everything to do with the college audience he was speaking to and the Viet Nam war when the college boys got a deferment and the rest of the dummies were shipped across the world to give their lives for our country. The big friggin jerk!!!!!

This may not affect the mid-term elections, but Kerry has finished off any chance he may have had for his own 08 Presidential bid.

Left by dianne on November 1st, 2006 at 9:29 am

[...] Urbangrounds writes, “nothing more than a poorly-delivered joke.” [...]

Left by The endless joys of context-free quotes « Secret Mojo Dumbs It Down for You on November 1st, 2006 at 10:04 am

He is a complete waste of space… the only presidential position he’s competent to serve is the Dixie Chick’s Fan Club.

Left by kw on November 1st, 2006 at 10:04 am

He tried to take a cheap shot at Bush and it backfired. Instead of doing the smart and right thing and just apologize, he went on the attack and made the 2006 election the 2004 election all over again. I guess he forgot the outcome on 2004. No wonder the dem canidates are distancing themselves from him. He’s another one of these guys who’s ego is so big it sucks the air out of any room.

Left by Anonymous on November 1st, 2006 at 10:32 am

I think the republicans are clutching at straws, there is real anger about the direction of the USA at many levels, not only the war, but also inequality.

Soldiers are mostly from poor families, especially in the USA. Why is that? Why aren’t rich kids going off to war? What kind of democracy allows this to happen?

The fact that the poor are usually not very educated (some are stupid some are normal but none have made the most of their talents by working low paid jobs) reflects the fact that most higher education in the US is very expensive and private. Poor people are mostly excluded from it. The big change now is that unlike the past if you don’t have a college degree you are unlikely to get a good job, and blue collar jobs are going to China Mexico and India, making the rich people that own the companies exporting those jobs richer (shareholders are included in this).

Increasingly middle income americans are affected too, mostly through their children. Sometimes as there are no good jobs to go to to live like a human being, people are forced to go to the army as it offers training and the only viable career…
Some become criminals… some become cleaners etc..

Whereas C students like Bush succeed based on their parents money not their own efforts, so this is hardly meritocracy. I wouldn’t call Bush a smart man. I think he has outsourced the thinking to other unelected people which is a problem in a democracy.

As we live in a world were the rich can avoid the army, saying that poor people are the ones fighting the war is not a lie… Just think about it…

Both Bush and Cheney avoided going to Vietnam by Bush getting his rich family to intervene for him to guard the fearsome invaders in Texas (i.e. nobody), always at the ready from the bar, armed with several bottles of alcohol. Whereas Cheney used his university study as a reason not to go to Vietnam.

If they had fought in a war i would have much more time in listening to Bush or Cheney talk about the necessity of war, the reality is neither has experienced it… and they talk far too much about it.

Left by George on November 1st, 2006 at 11:03 am

I think the republicans are clutching at straws, there is real anger about the direction of the USA at many levels, not only the war, but also inequality.

The first point is obvious: John Kerry isn’t running for office, why is he in the news at all? If it wasn’t so clearly a misspoken attack on George Bush, the statement would be damning but the Republican pile-on is simply a BS diversion from a discussion about who took us into this war and how we can get out of it.

About your second point, though, I think it’s more complicated than you depict: the demographics of the military are different from the nation as a whole but they aren’t the bottom of the socio-economic ladder.

Left by Preston on November 1st, 2006 at 11:22 am

Well let’s let a conservative say it. John Derbyshire from the Corner:
John Kerry is awful, and anything we can do further to degrade his political prospects is worth doing. But really, I saw a clip of him making the much-deplored remark, and it was obvious that the dimwit in Iraq that he referred to was George W. Bush, not the American soldier. It was a dumb joke badly delivered, but his meaning was plain. My pleasure in watching JK squirm is just as great as any other conservative’s, but something is owed to honesty. There’s a lot of fake outrage going round here.

Left by Preston on November 1st, 2006 at 11:31 am

I can assure you that my outrage is anything but fake.

Left by Robbie on November 1st, 2006 at 11:34 am

Lots and lots of false outrage. It was a botched joke, you know it, I know it, and so do the voters who will be tossing the Republican congress out on its ear in a week.

This really is one of the most pathetic attempts to create an uproar over nothing that I’ve ever seen. And it’s funny to watch a bunch of non-serving wankers (not including you, of course) who used educational deferments, try to act like they are outraged! Comedy gold.

Left by Dan on November 1st, 2006 at 11:48 am

Another conservative puts it this way:

While the media is obsessed parsing the ad libs of someone on no ballot this fall, something truly ominous has just happened in Iraq. The commander-in-chief has abandoned an American soldier to the tender mercies of a Shiite militia. Yes, there are nuances here, and the NYT fleshes out the story today. But the essential fact is clear. In a showdown for control of Baghdad, the Iraqi prime minister took orders from Moqtada al-Sadr, and instructed the U.S. military to withdraw from Sadr City. The American forces were trying both to stabilize the city but also to find a missing American serviceman. He is still missing…

The U.S. military does not have a tradition of abandoning its own soldiers to foreign militias, or of taking orders from foreign governments. No commander-in-chief who actually walks the walk, rather than swaggering the swagger, would acquiesce to such a thing.

Left by Preston on November 1st, 2006 at 11:49 am

Dan-
Luckily ABC’s political director of news, Mark Halperin, believes that his network has a lot to do in the next week to win over conservatives.

They’re off to a good start!

Left by Preston on November 1st, 2006 at 11:58 am

Preston — first Andrew Sullivan is not a Conservative. He’s vile. He’s pathetic. He’s an idiotic asshole. But he’s no conservative.

Second — < edited while I look for the link>

Left by Robbie on November 1st, 2006 at 4:04 pm

Robbie-
On what basis do you deny him his self-proclaimed ideology?

Left by Preston on November 1st, 2006 at 5:00 pm

Preston —

From Wikipedia:

Sullivan claims to be a conservative by his own definition, but has dissociated himself from the Republican Party. Sullivan endorsed John Kerry for President in 2004, and has endorsed a Democratic takeover of Congress in 2006. His position on many public issues places him firmly on the left of the U.S. political spectrum.

Sully’s own personal definition of “conservative” doesn’t mesh with mine (or, oddly enough, almost any other conservative) defintion of conservative. Besides actions speak louder than words and labels. And his positions clearly place him on the left side of “Conservative”.

Left by Robbie on November 1st, 2006 at 7:42 pm

Judging from the polling it seems Sullivan is good company with probably 10% of the country who consider themselves Conservative yet don’t support the Republicans.

Left by Preston on November 2nd, 2006 at 12:15 am

It looks like Sullivan isn’t the only conservative that’s through with the Republican Party:

My wife and I have reached the tipping point. We plan to go to town hall to dump our Republican voter registration and reregister as independents. I don’t care anymore what party someone is in. These days, what I care about is what they’re made of.

Left by Preston on November 2nd, 2006 at 7:09 am

[...] It was less than a month ago that Sen. John Kerry (D–MA) called our brave men and women in the military stupid. Now, we have Rep. Charlie — fresh on the heels of insulting the fine folks of Mississippi — once again perpetuating the Left’s favorite anti-military myth: that the US Military is disproportionately comprised of uneducated, poor, and easily duped minorities who had no better options than joining the military. [...]

Left by UrbanGrounds » Blog Archive » Rep. Charles Rangel: Perpetuating Anti-Military Myths on November 27th, 2006 at 10:04 am

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