Comments on: The “Me too” Thought of the Day http://urbangrounds.com/2006/11/us-out-of-europe/ Sometimes the truth hurts Tue, 14 Feb 2012 16:52:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: » Time To Get The Hell Out! http://urbangrounds.com/2006/11/us-out-of-europe/#comment-28745 » Time To Get The Hell Out! Tue, 21 Nov 2006 02:36:32 +0000 http://urbangrounds.com/2006/11/17/us-out-of-europe/#comment-28745 [...] …of Europe. Hat Tip: Urbangrounds.com Glenn Reynolds wants to get out: [...] [...] …of Europe. Hat Tip: Urbangrounds.com Glenn Reynolds wants to get out: [...]

]]> By: The Holywriter http://urbangrounds.com/2006/11/us-out-of-europe/#comment-28603 The Holywriter Sat, 18 Nov 2006 23:49:54 +0000 http://urbangrounds.com/2006/11/17/us-out-of-europe/#comment-28603 Well, I meant from Civil War reconstruction days, haha. Well, I meant from Civil War reconstruction days, haha.

]]> By: Robbie http://urbangrounds.com/2006/11/us-out-of-europe/#comment-28568 Robbie Sat, 18 Nov 2006 15:19:38 +0000 http://urbangrounds.com/2006/11/17/us-out-of-europe/#comment-28568 Yes. We do. There are still ~1500 Texas National Guardsmen stationed on the border. However, they are not tasked with patrolling border crossing stations (thus, they are not asking US Citizens for their papers). They are assisting the Border Patrol agents with patrolling the rest of the vast and open border. Yes. We do. There are still ~1500 Texas National Guardsmen stationed on the border. However, they are not tasked with patrolling border crossing stations (thus, they are not asking US Citizens for their papers).

They are assisting the Border Patrol agents with patrolling the rest of the vast and open border.

]]> By: The Holywriter http://urbangrounds.com/2006/11/us-out-of-europe/#comment-28550 The Holywriter Sat, 18 Nov 2006 05:12:08 +0000 http://urbangrounds.com/2006/11/17/us-out-of-europe/#comment-28550 Wait...do we still have federal troops stationed in the south? Wait…do we still have federal troops stationed in the south?

]]> By: chris http://urbangrounds.com/2006/11/us-out-of-europe/#comment-28545 chris Sat, 18 Nov 2006 02:09:48 +0000 http://urbangrounds.com/2006/11/17/us-out-of-europe/#comment-28545 i have recently been in Germany and i heard that soon, soldiers would be coming home from germany. So maybe there is some hope. i have recently been in Germany and i heard that soon, soldiers would be coming home from germany. So maybe there is some hope.

]]> By: Preston http://urbangrounds.com/2006/11/us-out-of-europe/#comment-28533 Preston Fri, 17 Nov 2006 19:51:31 +0000 http://urbangrounds.com/2006/11/17/us-out-of-europe/#comment-28533 No one's going to accuse you of keeping your opinions to yourself, Patrick. I'm also a little wary of the use of American soldiers to protect the investments of Wall Street but I still see a role for the US and the American military in the world. There is simply no country with the moral standing of the US to act as a negotiator, a peacekeeper, or a soldier if necessary. Of course that's one of the reason's I have opposed this war- it has damaged our ability to influence the world in positive ways. That said, I agree that we should have been drawing down our troops for some time in Europe. I'd imagine Clinton knew that a Republican Congress would jump on that as being 'weak on defense' and Bush clearly has no desire to reduce American military influence <strong>anywhere.</strong> (An opinion reinforced yesterday by his comment that 20 years and the lives of 1 million Vietnamese and 58,209 soldiers is evidence that Americans are 'quitters'.) But I have to part ways on the use of American soldiers on US soil. We can put up a fence for all I care but the idea of soldiers asking Americans for papers strikes a little too close to totalitarianism for my taste. No one’s going to accuse you of keeping your opinions to yourself, Patrick.

I’m also a little wary of the use of American soldiers to protect the investments of Wall Street but I still see a role for the US and the American military in the world. There is simply no country with the moral standing of the US to act as a negotiator, a peacekeeper, or a soldier if necessary. Of course that’s one of the reason’s I have opposed this war- it has damaged our ability to influence the world in positive ways.

That said, I agree that we should have been drawing down our troops for some time in Europe. I’d imagine Clinton knew that a Republican Congress would jump on that as being ‘weak on defense’ and Bush clearly has no desire to reduce American military influence anywhere. (An opinion reinforced yesterday by his comment that 20 years and the lives of 1 million Vietnamese and 58,209 soldiers is evidence that Americans are ‘quitters’.)

But I have to part ways on the use of American soldiers on US soil. We can put up a fence for all I care but the idea of soldiers asking Americans for papers strikes a little too close to totalitarianism for my taste.

]]> By: Patrick Kelley http://urbangrounds.com/2006/11/us-out-of-europe/#comment-28532 Patrick Kelley Fri, 17 Nov 2006 19:17:57 +0000 http://urbangrounds.com/2006/11/17/us-out-of-europe/#comment-28532 We should have been out of Europe twenty years ago, after the Soiet Union fell. Maybe not immediately, but within five years of that time. All our troops should be home, and stationed at our damn borders. Repeal the damn Pussy Commontitties Law. Let the world take care of its own damn problems. Sink or swim. Of course, that means that the Big Business entities won't have Uncle Sam to protect their piracy in the world, so it's never going to happen, I know that. But I can dream. We should have been out of Europe twenty years ago, after the Soiet Union fell. Maybe not immediately, but within five years of that time. All our troops should be home, and stationed at our damn borders. Repeal the damn Pussy Commontitties Law. Let the world take care of its own damn problems. Sink or swim. Of course, that means that the Big Business entities won’t have Uncle Sam to protect their piracy in the world, so it’s never going to happen, I know that. But I can dream.

]]> By: Preston http://urbangrounds.com/2006/11/us-out-of-europe/#comment-28527 Preston Fri, 17 Nov 2006 17:40:58 +0000 http://urbangrounds.com/2006/11/17/us-out-of-europe/#comment-28527 My cousin did a stint in Kosovo, came home, and then re-upped for another year in Kosovo. I guess it's nicer than it sounds. My cousin did a stint in Kosovo, came home, and then re-upped for another year in Kosovo.

I guess it’s nicer than it sounds.

]]> By: Robbie http://urbangrounds.com/2006/11/us-out-of-europe/#comment-28523 Robbie Fri, 17 Nov 2006 16:43:58 +0000 http://urbangrounds.com/2006/11/17/us-out-of-europe/#comment-28523 Eh...I spent some time in Germany (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/REFORGER" rel="nofollow">REFORGER</a>) and in <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnian_War" rel="nofollow">Bosnia</a>. Neither of those two trips were nearly as enjoyable as you might think. I have since been back to Germany as a civilian, and I enjoyed my trip abroad much more the second go round. Eh…I spent some time in Germany (REFORGER) and in Bosnia. Neither of those two trips were nearly as enjoyable as you might think.

I have since been back to Germany as a civilian, and I enjoyed my trip abroad much more the second go round.

]]> By: Preston http://urbangrounds.com/2006/11/us-out-of-europe/#comment-28510 Preston Fri, 17 Nov 2006 15:16:21 +0000 http://urbangrounds.com/2006/11/17/us-out-of-europe/#comment-28510 ...and spoil a nice trip abroad for thousands of Americans? …and spoil a nice trip abroad for thousands of Americans?

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