Comments on: Army Giving Former Criminals a Second Chance http://urbangrounds.com/2007/02/armywaivers/ Sometimes the truth hurts Tue, 14 Feb 2012 05:48:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: maurice ward http://urbangrounds.com/2007/02/armywaivers/#comment-159865 maurice ward Thu, 11 Feb 2010 02:25:59 +0000 http://urbangrounds.com/2007/02/14/armywaivers/#comment-159865 im ex military kicked out and sent to prison in the military and i got released and could not find a job with my discharge from the military which was a bad conduct discharge and i got in some more trouble and back to prison and im going on 26 now and all i know is the street life and military and i dont want the street life but the military wont give me a second chance or will they? can u help me get back in and do what i started i dont want this crazy street life anymore and u say u want me to change well help me im ex military kicked out and sent to prison in the military and i got released and could not find a job with my discharge from the military which was a bad conduct discharge and i got in some more trouble and back to prison and im going on 26 now and all i know is the street life and military and i dont want the street life but the military wont give me a second chance or will they? can u help me get back in and do what i started i dont want this crazy street life anymore and u say u want me to change well help me

]]> By: megan http://urbangrounds.com/2007/02/armywaivers/#comment-144544 megan Thu, 20 Nov 2008 04:34:27 +0000 http://urbangrounds.com/2007/02/14/armywaivers/#comment-144544 Depending on the severity of the felony, how hard is it to re-enlist into the Army. My boyfriend was convicted in 2006 and recieved and was honorably discharged. He is not a bad person and was very dedicated to the Army, he just made a drunken mistake when he was 19 and has since paid for his mistake. He is no longer on probation and he really wants to re-enlist. Depending on the severity of the felony, how hard is it to re-enlist into the Army. My boyfriend was convicted in 2006 and recieved and was honorably discharged. He is not a bad person and was very dedicated to the Army, he just made a drunken mistake when he was 19 and has since paid for his mistake. He is no longer on probation and he really wants to re-enlist.

]]> By: Smerge http://urbangrounds.com/2007/02/armywaivers/#comment-141853 Smerge Wed, 17 Sep 2008 23:06:53 +0000 http://urbangrounds.com/2007/02/14/armywaivers/#comment-141853 Wondering if you coudl tell me some more about this. I am an honorably discharged prior service soldier, with no record. However, I am facing some serious charges, false charges, but none the less I am awaiting trial. I had planned on joining the national guard in december, but I am worried that has been messe dup. Is there any way, method, program or person that knows if someone with a pending trial can be allowed in? I have heard yes and no but nothing concrete... -Thanks Wondering if you coudl tell me some more about this. I am an honorably discharged prior service soldier, with no record. However, I am facing some serious charges, false charges, but none the less I am awaiting trial. I had planned on joining the national guard in december, but I am worried that has been messe dup. Is there any way, method, program or person that knows if someone with a pending trial can be allowed in? I have heard yes and no but nothing concrete…

-Thanks

]]> By: Robbie http://urbangrounds.com/2007/02/armywaivers/#comment-47046 Robbie Wed, 21 Feb 2007 20:46:26 +0000 http://urbangrounds.com/2007/02/14/armywaivers/#comment-47046 Leslie --- they're not getting to join the military <em>instead </em>of going to jail. They are young men and women who have already served their time or paid their penalties, and are now back in society trying to make something out of their lives. Don't you think they deserve a chance to do so? Leslie — they’re not getting to join the military instead of going to jail.

They are young men and women who have already served their time or paid their penalties, and are now back in society trying to make something out of their lives.

Don’t you think they deserve a chance to do so?

]]> By: leslie http://urbangrounds.com/2007/02/armywaivers/#comment-47040 leslie Wed, 21 Feb 2007 20:24:42 +0000 http://urbangrounds.com/2007/02/14/armywaivers/#comment-47040 i think that if did a crime you should serve it not get to go yo the military no i dont think its right! And even if they are young they still made a mistake and need to pay for it i think that if did a crime you should serve it not get to go yo the military no i dont think its right! And even if they are young they still made a mistake and need to pay for it

]]> By: Nazar http://urbangrounds.com/2007/02/armywaivers/#comment-44634 Nazar Thu, 15 Feb 2007 01:53:27 +0000 http://urbangrounds.com/2007/02/14/armywaivers/#comment-44634 I wonder if they still give those charged with minor crimes the choice of going to jail or to the military. I hope the latter. Better to have a person serve his country than sit in jail. I wonder if they still give those charged with minor crimes the choice of going to jail or to the military. I hope the latter. Better to have a person serve his country than sit in jail.

]]> By: Preston http://urbangrounds.com/2007/02/armywaivers/#comment-44579 Preston Wed, 14 Feb 2007 21:33:45 +0000 http://urbangrounds.com/2007/02/14/armywaivers/#comment-44579 Jim, the reasons for the recruiting difficulties are irrelevant to Robbie's argument which seems to suggest that the changes occurred independently of the facts on the ground. As I said before- if the military changes its recruitment policy because it believes that a criminal record does not prevent a young person from becoming a good soldier that's okay. But if the changes are solely motivated by the lack of qualified recruits then our military has a problem that isn't solved by attempts to paint the New York Times with charges of hypocrisy. Jim, the reasons for the recruiting difficulties are irrelevant to Robbie’s argument which seems to suggest that the changes occurred independently of the facts on the ground.

As I said before- if the military changes its recruitment policy because it believes that a criminal record does not prevent a young person from becoming a good soldier that’s okay. But if the changes are solely motivated by the lack of qualified recruits then our military has a problem that isn’t solved by attempts to paint the New York Times with charges of hypocrisy.

]]> By: Jim Howard http://urbangrounds.com/2007/02/armywaivers/#comment-44516 Jim Howard Wed, 14 Feb 2007 17:27:26 +0000 http://urbangrounds.com/2007/02/14/armywaivers/#comment-44516 Preston, it's not just the war in Iraq that's making it more difficult to recruit. There is a huge economic boom occuring in this country, employment, income and the stock market are at record levels, and the deficit is decreasing very rapidly. In boom times like these it is always more difficult for the Army to recruit. I blame Bush. Preston, it’s not just the war in Iraq that’s making it more difficult to recruit.

There is a huge economic boom occuring in this country, employment, income and the stock market are at record levels, and the deficit is decreasing very rapidly.

In boom times like these it is always more difficult for the Army to recruit.

I blame Bush.

]]> By: Preston http://urbangrounds.com/2007/02/armywaivers/#comment-44509 Preston Wed, 14 Feb 2007 16:44:58 +0000 http://urbangrounds.com/2007/02/14/armywaivers/#comment-44509 <em>Does anyone really want to argue that they shouldn’t have a the chance to become productive and responsible memebers of our society via military service? </em> Your argument is oddly divorced from current events: the reason that they are lowering the standards is because they are having difficulting recruiting people who will go to Iraq. It's fine if the military changes its recruitment policy because it believes that a criminal record does not prevent a young person from becoming a good soldier. <strong>It is not fine </strong>if they change the policy only because they cannot find qualified recruits. Does anyone really want to argue that they shouldn’t have a the chance to become productive and responsible memebers of our society via military service?

Your argument is oddly divorced from current events: the reason that they are lowering the standards is because they are having difficulting recruiting people who will go to Iraq.

It’s fine if the military changes its recruitment policy because it believes that a criminal record does not prevent a young person from becoming a good soldier. It is not fine if they change the policy only because they cannot find qualified recruits.

]]> By: One Guardsman's Spiel http://urbangrounds.com/2007/02/armywaivers/#comment-46318 One Guardsman's Spiel Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://urbangrounds.com/2007/02/14/armywaivers/#comment-46318 <!--%kramer-pre%-->about this who thing? The left's talking points. The left is the first group of people to talk about rehabilitation of our criminals and giving them a second chance - yet when the military does what they want and they're up in arms about it!Robbie at UrbanGrounds said it much better than I can. That's all I'm going to write tonite - watch this weekend for the next thing on my docket - Undercover reporters catching recruiters lying. <!--%kramer-post%--> about this who thing? The left’s talking points. The left is the first group of people to talk about rehabilitation of our criminals and giving them a second chance – yet when the military does what they want and they’re up in arms about it!Robbie at UrbanGrounds said it much better than I can. That’s all I’m going to write tonite – watch this weekend for the next thing on my docket – Undercover reporters catching recruiters lying.

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