Comments on: President Bush’s Shamnesty Plan Passes First Hurdle http://urbangrounds.com/2007/06/shamnesty-bill/ Off-the-cuff commentary on the day's events Sat, 20 Mar 2010 14:45:03 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Preston http://urbangrounds.com/2007/06/shamnesty-bill/#comment-85482 Preston Sat, 30 Jun 2007 17:49:49 +0000 http://urbangrounds.com/2007/06/26/shamnesty-bill/#comment-85482 <em>The problem is that there already is a path to legal status. It’s called going back to your home country, and applying to come here legally in accord with our country’s current immigration policy.</em> And that option was rejected by two to one by the American people. Your interpretation of the poll as refering to legal immigration is pretty desperate given the wording of the question: <em>What should happen to <strong>illegal immigrants </strong>who have been in the U.S. for at least two years?</em> The problem is that there already is a path to legal status. It’s called going back to your home country, and applying to come here legally in accord with our country’s current immigration policy.

And that option was rejected by two to one by the American people.

Your interpretation of the poll as refering to legal immigration is pretty desperate given the wording of the question:
What should happen to illegal immigrants who have been in the U.S. for at least two years?

]]> By: Robbie http://urbangrounds.com/2007/06/shamnesty-bill/#comment-85243 Robbie Fri, 29 Jun 2007 12:45:09 +0000 http://urbangrounds.com/2007/06/26/shamnesty-bill/#comment-85243 First Preston, consider the source of the poll (the open-borders cheering writers and editors of the NY Times). The question I assume you are alluding to is this one: <blockquote>What should happen to illegal immigrants who have been in the U.S. for at least two years? A) Should be deported B) Should be allowed to apply for legal status</blockquote> The problem is that there already is a path to legal status. It's called going back to your home country, and applying to come here legally in accord with our country's current immigration policy. Further, one of the amendments (from my honorable Senator Hutchinson) would have required those wishing for "legal status" to return home and apply from their country of origin --- which is in accordance with our laws. But that amendment was voted down. Americans do <em>not </em>support amnesty. We do <em>not </em>support illegal immigration. We do however, support legal immigration. And I think that is what people in that poll were voting for. First Preston, consider the source of the poll (the open-borders cheering writers and editors of the NY Times).

The question I assume you are alluding to is this one:

What should happen to illegal immigrants who have been in the U.S. for at least two years?

A) Should be deported
B) Should be allowed to apply for legal status

The problem is that there already is a path to legal status. It’s called going back to your home country, and applying to come here legally in accord with our country’s current immigration policy.

Further, one of the amendments (from my honorable Senator Hutchinson) would have required those wishing for “legal status” to return home and apply from their country of origin — which is in accordance with our laws.

But that amendment was voted down.

Americans do not support amnesty. We do not support illegal immigration. We do however, support legal immigration. And I think that is what people in that poll were voting for.

]]> By: Preston http://urbangrounds.com/2007/06/shamnesty-bill/#comment-85238 Preston Fri, 29 Jun 2007 11:58:21 +0000 http://urbangrounds.com/2007/06/26/shamnesty-bill/#comment-85238 Dianne- There is no refuting that no one likes this bill. That's the fate of a compromise. But the fact remains that Americans- <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/25/us/25poll.html?ex=1337745600&en=ac69d307847180bf&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss" rel="nofollow">by a two to one ratio</a>- believe that illegal immigrants should have a path to citizenship. Dianne- There is no refuting that no one likes this bill. That’s the fate of a compromise.

But the fact remains that Americans- by a two to one ratio- believe that illegal immigrants should have a path to citizenship.

]]> By: Dianne http://urbangrounds.com/2007/06/shamnesty-bill/#comment-85083 Dianne Thu, 28 Jun 2007 12:17:18 +0000 http://urbangrounds.com/2007/06/26/shamnesty-bill/#comment-85083 Preston: You are exactly wrong. <a href="http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/just_22_favor_stalled_immigration_bill" rel="nofollow"> Refute this</a>. Preston: You are exactly wrong. Refute this.

]]> By: Preston http://urbangrounds.com/2007/06/shamnesty-bill/#comment-85075 Preston Thu, 28 Jun 2007 11:45:15 +0000 http://urbangrounds.com/2007/06/26/shamnesty-bill/#comment-85075 <em>What is going on behind the scenes to move so many democratically elected officials to vote against the express wishes of the voters who put them in office?</em> This is exactly wrong. The vast majority of Americans want to give a path to citizenship to undocumented immigrants. What is going on behind the scenes to move so many democratically elected officials to vote against the express wishes of the voters who put them in office?

This is exactly wrong. The vast majority of Americans want to give a path to citizenship to undocumented immigrants.

]]> By: kma http://urbangrounds.com/2007/06/shamnesty-bill/#comment-84815 kma Wed, 27 Jun 2007 21:13:33 +0000 http://urbangrounds.com/2007/06/26/shamnesty-bill/#comment-84815 Heard Voinovich on the radio. El Asshole Grande. He won't commit himself, so put him in the pro - amnesty column. Heard Voinovich on the radio. El Asshole Grande. He won’t commit himself, so put him in the pro – amnesty column.

]]> By: Preston http://urbangrounds.com/2007/06/shamnesty-bill/#comment-84487 Preston Wed, 27 Jun 2007 13:04:16 +0000 http://urbangrounds.com/2007/06/26/shamnesty-bill/#comment-84487 It sounds like you suffer from Bush Derangement Syndrome. It sounds like you suffer from Bush Derangement Syndrome.

]]> By: Robbie http://urbangrounds.com/2007/06/shamnesty-bill/#comment-83973 Robbie Wed, 27 Jun 2007 00:07:59 +0000 http://urbangrounds.com/2007/06/26/shamnesty-bill/#comment-83973 Kemo --- welcome to the conversation, buddy. What took you so long? Kemo — welcome to the conversation, buddy. What took you so long?

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