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So what? It’s not like he drove a girl into a river and left her to drown

David VitterSo a Republican Senator from Louisiana had sex with a prostitute sometime before 1999 (and before running for Senator).

Sen. David Vitter (R-La.) long ago admitted the mistake to his wife and family, and they have moved on. Kind of how Bill and Hillary moved on after each of Bill’s flings with women-not-named-Hillary.

But now there is a loud chorus of folks — both from the Left and the Right (but mostly the Left) — demanding that Sen. Vitters resigns from the Senate for something that he did before he became a Senator.

A few points:

  • All this ruckus on the Left demanding that the Republican Senator from Louisiana resign, while the Democratic Congressman from the same state gets a free pass from the Left despite having a freezer full of cash bribes?
  • Are those calling for Vitters to resign also demanding that Sen. Barrack Obama (D-IL) resign? After all, in his own biography he admits to snorting cocaine like it came from pixie stix and smoking marijuana like it was…well…marijuana. Even though these illegal and immoral actions occurred before he was a Senator, should he resign too? Or should just Sen. Vitter step down, since he’s a Republican?
  • Should Sen. Ted Kennedy resign, since he killed a woman?
  • Many on the left are chortling that this will hurt Rudy Giuliani, since Vitter is the Southern Regional Chair for Rudy’s campaign. Yet isn’t Los Angles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa wrapped up in a bit of an adultery scandal himself? And isn’t Villaraigosa a campaign co-chair for Hillary?
  • Were the Liberal masses calling for the resignation of Rep. Patrick Kennedy (D-RI) after he crashed his car while hopped up on drugs?
  • You don’t have to have a pimp or exchange cash-for-sex to be a prostitute. Just look at Monica Lewinsky.

Should Sen. Vitter be criticized for running on a family-values platform though he liked some occasional pay-to-play sex with prostitutes? Sure. That’s fair.

Should Sen. Vitter be forced or coerced into resigning for something relatively minor (at least as far as political crimes go) as sex with a prostitute — an act that occurred years ago, and an act that he admitted to his wife and family? Absolutely not.

14 Responses to “Sen. Vitter Had Sex with a Prostitute Before He Was a Senator”

I think he handled the fallout better than the average bear.

I wonder who’s next…wouldn’t it be something if Senator Byrd’s phone number was on the list. Hell, he’d be applauded.

wouldn’t it be something if Senator Byrd’s phone number was on the list.

There’s not enough Viagra in the world…

A prostitute??? Doesn’t seem Vitter is being entirely truthful.

Here’s what pisses me off. Ok…so maybe he’s just a man who can’t keep his pecker in his pants, but a couple of days ago I actually sent him a thank you note for the work he did to defeat the illegal immigration bill. And, I think to myself, now we can’t count on you anymore cause you’re shamed in the Congress and when we really need you, you’re not gonna be able to stand up there and hold your head up and FIGHT like you did before..

Shit

I watched Dan Abrams discuss this with Larry Flynt.

First question: Suppose he acted as a complete hypocrite. I want Larry Flynt (or others) to point out why acting like a hypocrite is wrong (ie what is your epistemological basis)? Defining what hypocrite means does not equate to showing it is morally wrong. In other words, how do you know for sure that it is wrong? Did God tell you in the Bible? Then, you better hold to all of it or you are being logically inconsistent.

Second question/point: All of us have done something at some time or other that goes against our own value system. There is not a man, woman or child on this planet who has not violated their own code of ethics (which is amazingly flexible anyway). Guy says I don’t go to church because it is full of hypocrites. The pastors says, “Come on in, there is room for one more.”

Third point: Larry Flynt’s reasoning suggests that since everybody has violated their own code of ethics, they should, therefore, only vote for and speak on behalf of Larry Flynt’s policy positions. This seems a strange and contorted argument to make.

Fourth point: Is it not possible that voters care about how Senators vote on bills (and their policy positions) more than they do about their personal morality?

Fifth point: What if (and in this case it appears not to be the case) some congress person committed adultery or whatever, apologized to their wife and did not repeat it? Does this mean that they are expected to remain silent forever?

Yapping about family values while routinely breaking the law by patronizing escort services is pretty damn hypocritical. How much weight one wishes to give such transgressions is up to the voter. It might not be important to some, but very important to others. It shouldn’t be hidden under some b.s. that it is a private family matter or “God forgave me.” I wonder about someone who knowing his position would break the law and his marriage vows and not think he would eventually get caught. It shows a lack of judgment.

I wonder about someone who knowing his position would break the law

Didn’t the alleged transgressions occur before he became a Senator?

I’m not sure of the time frames. Prior to being elected to the senate, wasn’t he a representative?

Larry Flynt apparently has at least 25 more names to add to the list. This ought to get interesting.

Robbie…you doubt Senator Byrd? lol

Fourth point: Is it not possible that voters care about how Senators vote on bills (and their policy positions) more than they do about their personal morality?

Actually, Robert, the aspect of these scandals most galling to me isn’t the personal hypocrisy of Senator Vitter- we’ve become accustomed to the likes of Haggard and Swaggart and Foley telling us how to live our lives while going about with hookers or drugs or freaking teenage boys.

It’s the political hypocrisy of the religious right that makes me sick. I used to have a modicum of belief in the sincerity of their politics yet they can be sure to stand by their man after he gives credit of his redemption to God (a courtesy that was never given to any liberal). Over and over we hear about the ‘importance of character’ from this crowd. Yet liberals who have attended church their whole lives have their faith questioned by right wing blowhards while junkies and johns get re-elected with their support.

So what is it? Is faith in God the glue of the religious right or is it just fealty to an authoritarian agenda? I guess we’ll find out on Election Day.

I like the way the Kennedy clan does it. Screw everybody, literally and figuratively, go to confession and the whole country will claim you’re a hero.

Wow, forty years ago to bring up Kennedy…why not blame Clinton. I think the narrow minds are missing that he ran on Family Values and he is a hypocrite…THAT IS WHAT IS GOING ON! All neo-cons should move to Alabama and marry your sisters!

the narrow minds are missing that he ran on Family Values and he is a hypocrite

And the Dems ran on a platform of cleaning up the corruption in Congress. Talk about Hypocrites — this might be the most ethically challenged Congress ever (on both sides of the aisle).

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