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By: Preston

Preston — Thu, 26 Jul 2007 11:01:33 +0000

… I only wish that the destabilization of invasion and occupation was considered before the utilization of massive force.

By: Preston

Preston — Thu, 26 Jul 2007 03:12:37 +0000

Jim- It’s my understanding that very large numbers of Vietnamese died after the war. I don’t know what Kerry said or what he was talking about.

But as I mentioned earlier the possibility of slaughter in the future isn’t a reason to stop the slaughter occurring in the present.

By: Jon

Jon — Wed, 25 Jul 2007 22:15:22 +0000

Good points Preston.
Not heard anything yet to counter them.

Jonny

By: Jim Howard

Jim Howard — Sat, 21 Jul 2007 03:32:35 +0000

Preston, since you don’t argue with Robbie’s central point (Kerry lied) I take it you agree.

And of course by late 1974 we were out of Viet Nam and the south was holding their own. Only when a Democrat congress cut off our friends at the knees did the bloodbath ensue.

By: Preston

Preston — Sat, 21 Jul 2007 02:48:53 +0000

Obviously, it can be seen in retrospect that the Vietnamese government was murderous yet at the time we were conducting a policy that was resulting in the death of thousands or millions.

By: Nazar

Nazar — Sat, 21 Jul 2007 01:36:33 +0000

Preston, the point is that those millions who died when we left didn’t have to die, and wouldn’t have died if we maintained our commitment to Vietnam. By 1975, the Vietnam War war was won militarily. The only thing that kept the communists going was the hope that the anti-war movement in America would end our involvement in Vietnam and they would be able to take over. Unfortunately, they were right.

Preston, I think you’re intelligent enough to know that communist regimes have a tendency to kill their own people…by the millions. Whatever effect our carpet-bombing had on the civilian population of Vietnam is no worse than what their own regime would have done to its own people.

By: Preston

Preston — Sat, 21 Jul 2007 01:27:04 +0000

Are we supposed to assume that those who died at the hands of the Vietnamese would have preferred to have been added to the millions who died as a result of American carpet bombing? Simply to say that both continued US presence in Vietnam and US withdrawal were likely to result in civilian casualties.

I wish that the result of these two precedents could be an agreement that the invasion and occupation of a foreign country isn’t the most efficient means of providing stability. Yet I’m sure we’ll soon be hearing how Iran would benefit from it’s own Surge.