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	<title>Comments on: Johnny Ray Conner: Scheduled for Execution</title>
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		<title>By: no2liberals</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2007/08/johnny-ray-conner/#comment-103524</link>
		<dc:creator>no2liberals</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 02:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, it&#039;s n2l.  I&#039;ve got much more going on than just Fnet=m*a.
I&#039;m so cool cause I wear no socks and matching underwear.  Try it, and you could reach a level of coolness you never imagined.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, it&#8217;s n2l.  I&#8217;ve got much more going on than just Fnet=m*a.<br />
I&#8217;m so cool cause I wear no socks and matching underwear.  Try it, and you could reach a level of coolness you never imagined.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2007/08/johnny-ray-conner/#comment-98200</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2007 09:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Hee-hee, made you look.
Itâ€™s fun, but then you will never know.
Racial diversity isnâ€™t required at private events&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You&#039;re so cool N2L  - One day, I want to be just like you.

Jonny</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Hee-hee, made you look.<br />
Itâ€™s fun, but then you will never know.<br />
Racial diversity isnâ€™t required at private events</p></blockquote>
<p>You&#8217;re so cool N2L  &#8211; One day, I want to be just like you.</p>
<p>Jonny</p>
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		<title>By: no2liberals</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2007/08/johnny-ray-conner/#comment-97755</link>
		<dc:creator>no2liberals</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 13:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hee-hee, made you look.
It&#039;s fun, but then you will never know.
Racial diversity isn&#039;t required at private events.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hee-hee, made you look.<br />
It&#8217;s fun, but then you will never know.<br />
Racial diversity isn&#8217;t required at private events.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2007/08/johnny-ray-conner/#comment-97716</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 08:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;A fun family outing. Youtube calls it â€œcrazy,â€ but they are a pack of liberals, so it doesnâ€™t count.
This is an annual event, held at Knob Creek, Kentucky. Iâ€™ve got to get there for this event.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I didn&#039;t see any black people attending that &#039;fun family outing&#039;.
Wait, don&#039;t tell me, they where the moving targets right?
You guys are SO out there!

Jonny</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>A fun family outing. Youtube calls it â€œcrazy,â€ but they are a pack of liberals, so it doesnâ€™t count.<br />
This is an annual event, held at Knob Creek, Kentucky. Iâ€™ve got to get there for this event.</p></blockquote>
<p>I didn&#8217;t see any black people attending that &#8216;fun family outing&#8217;.<br />
Wait, don&#8217;t tell me, they where the moving targets right?<br />
You guys are SO out there!</p>
<p>Jonny</p>
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		<title>By: no2liberals</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2007/08/johnny-ray-conner/#comment-97672</link>
		<dc:creator>no2liberals</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 01:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FV74rbgIsr8&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;A fun family outing&lt;/a&gt;.  Youtube calls it &quot;crazy,&quot; but they are a pack of liberals, so it doesn&#039;t count.
This is an annual event, held at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qg3FqEW4K2g&amp;mode=related&amp;search=&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Knob Creek, Kentucky.&lt;/a&gt;  I&#039;ve got to get there for this event.
Tyrants beware!
/especially the UN</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FV74rbgIsr8" rel="nofollow">A fun family outing</a>.  Youtube calls it &#8220;crazy,&#8221; but they are a pack of liberals, so it doesn&#8217;t count.<br />
This is an annual event, held at <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qg3FqEW4K2g&amp;mode=related&amp;search=" rel="nofollow">Knob Creek, Kentucky.</a>  I&#8217;ve got to get there for this event.<br />
Tyrants beware!<br />
/especially the UN</p>
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		<title>By: no2liberals</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2007/08/johnny-ray-conner/#comment-97636</link>
		<dc:creator>no2liberals</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 20:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a quick note on the comment left concerning Sarah Brady and her anti-gun Brady Bunch.  She gave a speech at a major university, several years ago, and she and the auditorium were surrounded by an estimated 150 armed law enforcement officers.
The theme of her lecture?
Handguns are useless for personal protection!
/I shiite you not</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a quick note on the comment left concerning Sarah Brady and her anti-gun Brady Bunch.  She gave a speech at a major university, several years ago, and she and the auditorium were surrounded by an estimated 150 armed law enforcement officers.<br />
The theme of her lecture?<br />
Handguns are useless for personal protection!<br />
/I shiite you not</p>
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		<title>By: no2liberals</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2007/08/johnny-ray-conner/#comment-97635</link>
		<dc:creator>no2liberals</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 20:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concealed_carry&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this wikipedia entry&lt;/a&gt; on concealed handgun laws in the U.S., there is a morphing image that begins with the year 1986, the year Florida introduced it&#039;s  &quot;Shall Issue&quot; CHL law, which has been copied extensively since.  As a result of a growing crime problem in the U.S., which was partuclarly violent in Florida, due to drug trafficking, Florida chose to allow their citizens to arm themselves.  Most states have followed,  as the morphing map shows.  I believe, as do many others, there is a correlation between more citizens being able to arm themselves, and the reduction in crime,  that began to show in the mid 90&#039;s, without impugning the necessary changes instituted in our courts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concealed_carry" rel="nofollow">this wikipedia entry</a> on concealed handgun laws in the U.S., there is a morphing image that begins with the year 1986, the year Florida introduced it&#8217;s  &#8220;Shall Issue&#8221; CHL law, which has been copied extensively since.  As a result of a growing crime problem in the U.S., which was partuclarly violent in Florida, due to drug trafficking, Florida chose to allow their citizens to arm themselves.  Most states have followed,  as the morphing map shows.  I believe, as do many others, there is a correlation between more citizens being able to arm themselves, and the reduction in crime,  that began to show in the mid 90&#8217;s, without impugning the necessary changes instituted in our courts.</p>
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		<title>By: no2liberals</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2007/08/johnny-ray-conner/#comment-97633</link>
		<dc:creator>no2liberals</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 19:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Although pacifism has its adherents, the American legal system is not among them. As criminal law scholar Herbert Weschler observed, the right of crime victims to use deadly force is based on what Weschler called the &quot;universal judgment that there is no social interest in preserving the lives of the aggressors at the cost of those of their victims.&quot; [122]

The American people overwhelmingly believe that it is legitimate to use deadly force against criminal attack, and that it is moral not just for government employees, but for crime victims to do so. A 1985 Gallup survey asked &quot;If the situation arose, would you use deadly force against another person in self-defense?&quot; Only 13% said &quot;no.&quot; (And presumably some of those 13% were expressing their own choice, but would not felonize persons who chose differently.) 

After Bernhard Goetz shot four teenagers who were attempting to rob him on a Manhattan subway in 1984, a Newsweek poll asked: &quot;Do you feel that taking the law into one&#039;s own hands, often called vigilantism is justified by circumstances?&quot; (The question was phrased in a way that was quite prejudicial to self-defense; &quot;vigilantism&quot; has nothing to do with self-defense, but instead refers to extra- judicial punishment of a suspect by a mob. [123] ) The question was asked in two separate surveys; in one group, 23% said that violence was never justified; in the other survey, 17% so opined. [124]

Plainly then, the very large majority of the American people believe that use of force, including deadly force if necessary, is a legitimate response to dangerous criminal attacks. &lt;strong&gt;In a society that respects liberty of conscience, this large majority should not attempt to force its morality of lawful self-defense onto the minority of the population that would prefer to see themselves and their families raped, robbed, and slaughtered rather than to use force. At the same time, the pacifist minority should not attempt to force its morality onto the majority that approves of lawful defensive force.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
The emphasized portion was done by me, as I fully concur with his assessment.
&lt;a href=&quot;http://rkba.org/research/cramer/shall-issue.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Shall Issue.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Although pacifism has its adherents, the American legal system is not among them. As criminal law scholar Herbert Weschler observed, the right of crime victims to use deadly force is based on what Weschler called the &#8220;universal judgment that there is no social interest in preserving the lives of the aggressors at the cost of those of their victims.&#8221; [122]</p>
<p>The American people overwhelmingly believe that it is legitimate to use deadly force against criminal attack, and that it is moral not just for government employees, but for crime victims to do so. A 1985 Gallup survey asked &#8220;If the situation arose, would you use deadly force against another person in self-defense?&#8221; Only 13% said &#8220;no.&#8221; (And presumably some of those 13% were expressing their own choice, but would not felonize persons who chose differently.) </p>
<p>After Bernhard Goetz shot four teenagers who were attempting to rob him on a Manhattan subway in 1984, a Newsweek poll asked: &#8220;Do you feel that taking the law into one&#8217;s own hands, often called vigilantism is justified by circumstances?&#8221; (The question was phrased in a way that was quite prejudicial to self-defense; &#8220;vigilantism&#8221; has nothing to do with self-defense, but instead refers to extra- judicial punishment of a suspect by a mob. [123] ) The question was asked in two separate surveys; in one group, 23% said that violence was never justified; in the other survey, 17% so opined. [124]</p>
<p>Plainly then, the very large majority of the American people believe that use of force, including deadly force if necessary, is a legitimate response to dangerous criminal attacks. <strong>In a society that respects liberty of conscience, this large majority should not attempt to force its morality of lawful self-defense onto the minority of the population that would prefer to see themselves and their families raped, robbed, and slaughtered rather than to use force. At the same time, the pacifist minority should not attempt to force its morality onto the majority that approves of lawful defensive force.</strong></p></blockquote>
<p>The emphasized portion was done by me, as I fully concur with his assessment.<br />
<a href="http://rkba.org/research/cramer/shall-issue.html" rel="nofollow">Shall Issue.</a></p>
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