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	<title>Comments on: Ron Silver&#8217;s 6 Step Plan to World Wide Acceptance</title>
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	<description>Sometimes the truth hurts</description>
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		<title>By: John Jarzemsky</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2007/10/ron-silver/#comment-107137</link>
		<dc:creator>John Jarzemsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 05:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have absolutely no doubts that Mossad operates far more efficiently and effectively than the CIA. I stand by Israel as well, but I think what Malazon and I are both trying to say is that Israel is not the timid little lamb so many people make it out to be. They are an extremely powerful nation and a military force to be reckoned with. The Silver piece implies that the only thing preventing the &quot;liquidation of Israel&quot; is the United States, which is completely and utterly untrue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have absolutely no doubts that Mossad operates far more efficiently and effectively than the CIA. I stand by Israel as well, but I think what Malazon and I are both trying to say is that Israel is not the timid little lamb so many people make it out to be. They are an extremely powerful nation and a military force to be reckoned with. The Silver piece implies that the only thing preventing the &#8220;liquidation of Israel&#8221; is the United States, which is completely and utterly untrue.</p>
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		<title>By: no2liberals</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2007/10/ron-silver/#comment-107130</link>
		<dc:creator>no2liberals</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 03:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good points, Nazar.
Some other achievements of Israel:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Intel&#039;s new multi-core processor was completely developed at facilities in Israel.
Voice over Internet Protocol technology was pioneered in Israel.
Bill Gates calls Israel &quot;a major player in the high-tech world&quot;; most of Windows NT operating system was developed by Microsoft-Israel; the Pentium MMX Chip technology was designed in Israel at Intel; both Microsoft and Cisco built their only R&amp;D facilities outside the U.S. in Israel; and, with more than 3,000 high-tech companies and start-ups, Israel has the highest concentration of high-tech companies in the world apart from the Silicon Valley.
Israel leads the world in the number of scientists and technicians in the work force, with 145 per 10,000, as opposed to 85 in the U.S., over 70 in Japan, and less than 60 in Germany. 
With over 25 percent of its work force employed in technical professions, Israel places first in this category as well.
Israel produces more scientific papers per capita than any other nation by a large margin; it has the largest number of startup companies globally, second only to the U.S.; it is No. 2 in the world for venture capital funds, financing all these advances; its $100 billion economy is larger than all of its immediate neighbors combined; and Israel is the only liberal democracy in the Middle East.
And while it maintains, by far, the highest average living standards
and per-capita income, exceeding even those of the UK, Israel is the
largest immigrant-absorbing nation on earth, relative to its population.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I&#039;ll stand with Israel, anyday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good points, Nazar.<br />
Some other achievements of Israel:</p>
<blockquote><p>Intel&#8217;s new multi-core processor was completely developed at facilities in Israel.<br />
Voice over Internet Protocol technology was pioneered in Israel.<br />
Bill Gates calls Israel &#8220;a major player in the high-tech world&#8221;; most of Windows NT operating system was developed by Microsoft-Israel; the Pentium MMX Chip technology was designed in Israel at Intel; both Microsoft and Cisco built their only R&amp;D facilities outside the U.S. in Israel; and, with more than 3,000 high-tech companies and start-ups, Israel has the highest concentration of high-tech companies in the world apart from the Silicon Valley.<br />
Israel leads the world in the number of scientists and technicians in the work force, with 145 per 10,000, as opposed to 85 in the U.S., over 70 in Japan, and less than 60 in Germany.<br />
With over 25 percent of its work force employed in technical professions, Israel places first in this category as well.<br />
Israel produces more scientific papers per capita than any other nation by a large margin; it has the largest number of startup companies globally, second only to the U.S.; it is No. 2 in the world for venture capital funds, financing all these advances; its $100 billion economy is larger than all of its immediate neighbors combined; and Israel is the only liberal democracy in the Middle East.<br />
And while it maintains, by far, the highest average living standards<br />
and per-capita income, exceeding even those of the UK, Israel is the<br />
largest immigrant-absorbing nation on earth, relative to its population.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;ll stand with Israel, anyday.</p>
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		<title>By: Nazar</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2007/10/ron-silver/#comment-107106</link>
		<dc:creator>Nazar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 22:38:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know about that John. The only way to really know if a country is about to launch nukes is through good intelligence. We didn&#039;t even know when North Korea was going to test their rockets last summer...until they tested them. I mean, the Mossad is good, but I don&#039;t think they&#039;re that good. 

Oh, and the money goes both ways, my friend. For every dollar we&#039;ve spent in Israel, we&#039;ve received tenfold back in terms of weapons development (Patriot, Arrowhead missile systems, even cellphones were developed in Israel), as well as a loyal ally that saves us the enormous expenses of maintaining additional troops and bases in that region. 

Not to mention the humanitarian aspects, of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know about that John. The only way to really know if a country is about to launch nukes is through good intelligence. We didn&#8217;t even know when North Korea was going to test their rockets last summer&#8230;until they tested them. I mean, the Mossad is good, but I don&#8217;t think they&#8217;re that good. </p>
<p>Oh, and the money goes both ways, my friend. For every dollar we&#8217;ve spent in Israel, we&#8217;ve received tenfold back in terms of weapons development (Patriot, Arrowhead missile systems, even cellphones were developed in Israel), as well as a loyal ally that saves us the enormous expenses of maintaining additional troops and bases in that region. </p>
<p>Not to mention the humanitarian aspects, of course.</p>
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		<title>By: John Jarzemsky</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2007/10/ron-silver/#comment-107103</link>
		<dc:creator>John Jarzemsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 21:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Malazon&#039;s point was that Israel has an incredibly powerful military capable of destroying any Arab nation seeking to launch nukes long before they had the chance to do so.

Due in no small part to the billions of dollars the United States government has poured into it, of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Malazon&#8217;s point was that Israel has an incredibly powerful military capable of destroying any Arab nation seeking to launch nukes long before they had the chance to do so.</p>
<p>Due in no small part to the billions of dollars the United States government has poured into it, of course.</p>
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		<title>By: Nazar</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2007/10/ron-silver/#comment-107101</link>
		<dc:creator>Nazar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 21:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Malazon. 

I just feel I need to clear number 6 up. 

Israel is a very small country. One nuclear weapon could effectively obliterate its entire population. Whatever is left of Israel could retaliate and do even more damage, but the point is that we don&#039;t want to get to that point in the first place. The Islamists may know this, and the scary thing is they may be perfectly fine with it. 

Some food for thought...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Malazon. </p>
<p>I just feel I need to clear number 6 up. </p>
<p>Israel is a very small country. One nuclear weapon could effectively obliterate its entire population. Whatever is left of Israel could retaliate and do even more damage, but the point is that we don&#8217;t want to get to that point in the first place. The Islamists may know this, and the scary thing is they may be perfectly fine with it. </p>
<p>Some food for thought&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Malazon</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2007/10/ron-silver/#comment-107082</link>
		<dc:creator>Malazon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 18:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not entirely sure what part of Ron Paul&#039;s platform you&#039;re comparing to this.

1.  Ron Paul would not help the Arabs retake Andalusia.  Not providing aid to the Isrealis (and all of the Arab nations that are the US&#039;s &quot;allies&quot;) is not the same as helping them retake Andalusia.

2.  He probably would remove our troops from non-US territories in the Pacific (let Japan defend itself).  The fleet would likely be a different issue.

3.  Ron would withdraw from NATO, not disband it.

4.  Ron is an advocate of locking down our borders.

5.  Absolutely.

6.  Israel could (and would) devastate ANY OTHER NATION in the Middle East two or three times over before they had a substantial enough nuclear arsenal to due Israel any real damage.  Israel&#039;s &quot;liquidation&quot; is not likely to happen any time in the near future.

Just some thoughts for reasoned debate.

Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not entirely sure what part of Ron Paul&#8217;s platform you&#8217;re comparing to this.</p>
<p>1.  Ron Paul would not help the Arabs retake Andalusia.  Not providing aid to the Isrealis (and all of the Arab nations that are the US&#8217;s &#8220;allies&#8221;) is not the same as helping them retake Andalusia.</p>
<p>2.  He probably would remove our troops from non-US territories in the Pacific (let Japan defend itself).  The fleet would likely be a different issue.</p>
<p>3.  Ron would withdraw from NATO, not disband it.</p>
<p>4.  Ron is an advocate of locking down our borders.</p>
<p>5.  Absolutely.</p>
<p>6.  Israel could (and would) devastate ANY OTHER NATION in the Middle East two or three times over before they had a substantial enough nuclear arsenal to due Israel any real damage.  Israel&#8217;s &#8220;liquidation&#8221; is not likely to happen any time in the near future.</p>
<p>Just some thoughts for reasoned debate.</p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
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