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	<title>Comments on: Jay R. Grodner &#8212; Anti-Military Chicago Lawyer Vandalizes a Marine&#8217;s Car</title>
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		<title>By: Military Lawyer</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2007/12/jay-r-grodner/#comment-174244</link>
		<dc:creator>Military Lawyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Nov 2010 16:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice text on his profile. I’d quote it, here, but it kinda’ makes my tummy hurt just thinking about that particular Jay R. Grodner being a bit of a perv.

The shirtless picture, I could have done without that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice text on his profile. I’d quote it, here, but it kinda’ makes my tummy hurt just thinking about that particular Jay R. Grodner being a bit of a perv.</p>
<p>The shirtless picture, I could have done without that.</p>
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		<title>By: Blog, blog, blog &#187; Semper Fi</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2007/12/jay-r-grodner/#comment-149466</link>
		<dc:creator>Blog, blog, blog &#187; Semper Fi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 07:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Chicago Times columnist John Kass Urban Grounds blog page Flopping Aces [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Chicago Times columnist John Kass Urban Grounds blog page Flopping Aces [...]</p>
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		<title>By: brenda</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2007/12/jay-r-grodner/#comment-127219</link>
		<dc:creator>brenda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 02:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why is he not being charged with a hate crime?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why is he not being charged with a hate crime?</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Smith</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2007/12/jay-r-grodner/#comment-126705</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 14:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say seeing this many posts supporting one of our boys in green is heartlifting.  With all the anti-military/anti-iraq crap in the mainstream media, its sites like this that put faith back into my heart for the average joe american.  Its good to see so many taking the time to post and put their support for our troops.  With so many anti-military media assholes running the airwaves, you wonder if the would would be able to still take down a guy like Hitler if he reared his head again on this planet.  Oh, a guy like that DID, his name was Hussein...And now one more evil-doer is gone thanks to our brave soldiers.  Wake up world and get behind our troops, our military and our president.

Thanks again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say seeing this many posts supporting one of our boys in green is heartlifting.  With all the anti-military/anti-iraq crap in the mainstream media, its sites like this that put faith back into my heart for the average joe american.  Its good to see so many taking the time to post and put their support for our troops.  With so many anti-military media assholes running the airwaves, you wonder if the would would be able to still take down a guy like Hitler if he reared his head again on this planet.  Oh, a guy like that DID, his name was Hussein&#8230;And now one more evil-doer is gone thanks to our brave soldiers.  Wake up world and get behind our troops, our military and our president.</p>
<p>Thanks again!</p>
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		<title>By: G Downey USMC</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2007/12/jay-r-grodner/#comment-126276</link>
		<dc:creator>G Downey USMC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 13:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope he violates and is thrown in jail for a year. Then he can see the other side of the bars for awhile.

OOOhhhRahhh to all the men and women who were there at the court house. Im sure we will see each other again.

Semper Fi
G Downey
USMC</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope he violates and is thrown in jail for a year. Then he can see the other side of the bars for awhile.</p>
<p>OOOhhhRahhh to all the men and women who were there at the court house. Im sure we will see each other again.</p>
<p>Semper Fi<br />
G Downey<br />
USMC</p>
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		<title>By: KB</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2007/12/jay-r-grodner/#comment-125786</link>
		<dc:creator>KB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 18:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is a link to the full transcript directly from the court reporter....what a fun read!

http://kabukivillage.typepad.com/my_weblog/2008/01/trial-transcrip.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a link to the full transcript directly from the court reporter&#8230;.what a fun read!</p>
<p><a href="http://kabukivillage.typepad.com/my_weblog/2008/01/trial-transcrip.html" rel="nofollow">http://kabukivillage.typepad.com/my_weblog/2008/01/trial-transcrip.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: G  Downey USMC</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2007/12/jay-r-grodner/#comment-123740</link>
		<dc:creator>G  Downey USMC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 00:02:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I called that number 773-856-3030 and he answered then ofcourse hung up. all i got out was Hello..........

So if there is a warrant for his arrest then someone needs to go pick his dumbass up right now.

If someone has more info on him please pass it on............ i only live 2 hours from Chicago............ Ill sit in front of his house till they take him to jail.

Semper Fi!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I called that number 773-856-3030 and he answered then ofcourse hung up. all i got out was Hello&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>So if there is a warrant for his arrest then someone needs to go pick his dumbass up right now.</p>
<p>If someone has more info on him please pass it on&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230; i only live 2 hours from Chicago&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230; Ill sit in front of his house till they take him to jail.</p>
<p>Semper Fi!</p>
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		<title>By: A Concerned American</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2007/12/jay-r-grodner/#comment-122458</link>
		<dc:creator>A Concerned American</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 14:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grodner is a moron and a hypocrite.  He starts out by saying that McNulty thinks he can do whatever he wants because he&#039;s a soldier, then when the situation shifts to a courtroom, he believes he can have his way because he is an attorney.  Well, someone needs to tell this moron that justice is blind and he would not have a profession, a home  or his daily freedoms if it weren&#039;t for soldiers fighting for this country.  The court should allow the case to be continued until McNulty is available for court.  Allowing Grodner to manipulate the system would be an outrage.  Grodner is a coward who got caught committing a cowardly act and should have to face the consequences of his actions just like any other citizen.  I was also amazed at the fact that Grodner quickly played the anti-semite card when the police officer arrived to the crime scene.  He is a desperate coward who was backed into a corner and he tried to say he was a victim of prejudice.  This guy needs his head examined.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grodner is a moron and a hypocrite.  He starts out by saying that McNulty thinks he can do whatever he wants because he&#8217;s a soldier, then when the situation shifts to a courtroom, he believes he can have his way because he is an attorney.  Well, someone needs to tell this moron that justice is blind and he would not have a profession, a home  or his daily freedoms if it weren&#8217;t for soldiers fighting for this country.  The court should allow the case to be continued until McNulty is available for court.  Allowing Grodner to manipulate the system would be an outrage.  Grodner is a coward who got caught committing a cowardly act and should have to face the consequences of his actions just like any other citizen.  I was also amazed at the fact that Grodner quickly played the anti-semite card when the police officer arrived to the crime scene.  He is a desperate coward who was backed into a corner and he tried to say he was a victim of prejudice.  This guy needs his head examined.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2007/12/jay-r-grodner/#comment-122439</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 13:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of the comments here are as nutty as Grodner.  There is no problem filing this as a misdemeanor as opposed to a felony. It&#039;s not like he is going to be sentenced to prison for keying a car. With the conviction, the court can order full restitution or the requirement that he obey any civil judgment against him. The state bar is not going to disbar any AG for making a discretionary decision.  Nor will they disbar Grodner if he cooperates with the bar investigation and their subsequent orders. If he cooperated, most likely he would be suspended for at least a year, ordered to take a professional responsibility course, and ordered to receive psychological counseling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of the comments here are as nutty as Grodner.  There is no problem filing this as a misdemeanor as opposed to a felony. It&#8217;s not like he is going to be sentenced to prison for keying a car. With the conviction, the court can order full restitution or the requirement that he obey any civil judgment against him. The state bar is not going to disbar any AG for making a discretionary decision.  Nor will they disbar Grodner if he cooperates with the bar investigation and their subsequent orders. If he cooperated, most likely he would be suspended for at least a year, ordered to take a professional responsibility course, and ordered to receive psychological counseling.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Baugh</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2007/12/jay-r-grodner/#comment-122284</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Baugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 23:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I am not mistaken an active duty Marine is not really even a person, as  most citizens are, but instead is property of the United States of America. Since he in belongs to the US Marine Corps, it would not be a stretch to say all of his property belong to the as well. Now this next part gets a little tricky for slimy lawyer types, but if you actively attack and damage property belonging to the government with intent. Would that not be?

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons. &quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Terrorism. Dictionary.com. The American HeritageÂ® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition. Houghton Mifflin Company, 2004. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Terrorism (accessed: January 09, 2008).&lt;/em&gt;

So if Mr. Grodner is in fact actively engaging in Terrorism against this country, that makes him a Terrorist. Further more, since Mr. Grodner is in fact siding with known enemies of the USA, He is committing Treason. (That is punishable by Death, right.) So, for the sake of all Law abiding Americans, the state of Illinois and the city of Chicago have a moral and legal obligation to protect its citizens for a treasonous terrorist. Throw is butt on a plane to Gitmo, where he can wait for us to try him for treason. I feel sure he can express his anti-military views there to his hearts content.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I am not mistaken an active duty Marine is not really even a person, as  most citizens are, but instead is property of the United States of America. Since he in belongs to the US Marine Corps, it would not be a stretch to say all of his property belong to the as well. Now this next part gets a little tricky for slimy lawyer types, but if you actively attack and damage property belonging to the government with intent. Would that not be?</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons. &#8220;</p></blockquote>
<p><em>Terrorism. Dictionary.com. The American HeritageÂ® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition. Houghton Mifflin Company, 2004. <a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Terrorism" rel="nofollow">http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Terrorism</a> (accessed: January 09, 2008).</em></p>
<p>So if Mr. Grodner is in fact actively engaging in Terrorism against this country, that makes him a Terrorist. Further more, since Mr. Grodner is in fact siding with known enemies of the USA, He is committing Treason. (That is punishable by Death, right.) So, for the sake of all Law abiding Americans, the state of Illinois and the city of Chicago have a moral and legal obligation to protect its citizens for a treasonous terrorist. Throw is butt on a plane to Gitmo, where he can wait for us to try him for treason. I feel sure he can express his anti-military views there to his hearts content.</p>
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