I’ll take Farrakhan’s homies over Shooter & the Chimp any ole’ day!

Left by Pat on January 31st, 2008 at 3:21 pm

Really? You’d take sharia law and the Nation of Islam over two exceptionally honorable and decent men like President Bush and Vice President Cheney?

That says a whole lot about your lack of character and patriotism.

Left by Robbie Cooper on January 31st, 2008 at 3:27 pm

You mean those two guys who broke Iraq and are scrambling to permanently sabotage it for their democratic successors?

McClatchy reports political violence for Wednesday:

‘ Baghdad

A member of the national police was killed and another four members were injured in an IED explosion that targeted their patrol near al Mustansiriyah University in Waziriyah neighborhood east Baghdad around 7:00 am.

Two civilians were injured in 2 IEDs explosion in al Nidhal Street downtown Baghdad around 7:15 am.

Five members of the national police were injured in 2 IEDs explosion that targeted their patrol underneath Ghadeer bridge in Ghadeer neighborhood east Baghdad around 7:30 am.

Three civilians were injured when a mortar shell hit al Mansour neighborhood west Baghdad around 8:00

A joint force (Iraqi and US army) raided the office of Atheer cell phone network in Mansour neighborhood west Baghdad today afternoon and arrested 8 employees

Police found three anonymous bodies in Baghdad . . .

Kirkuk

A police source said that a police patrol found two head of men near one of the factories in Doz town south of Kirkuk today morning. The source said that the two heads were [of] two Turkmen men called Sabah Fadel and Mohannad Jum’a who were kidnapped a week ago.

Anbar

A member of Abo Zakarya Sahwa office (Abo Zakarya awakening office ) was killed and three others were wounded in a suicide car bomb that targeted the office in Thiraa’ Dijla area northwest of Baghdad on Tuesday afternoon.

Mosul

Gunmen killed Dr. Khaleel Ibraheem, the head of the Sharia in the college of the Islamic sciences in Musol University and one of his students in al Mishraq neighborhood east Mosul city today afternoon.

Diyala

Gunmen attacked a house in Bardaniyah village, 7 Kms north of Baquba city killing the father and injuring his two sons and his daughter.

Gunmen attacked abdul Hameed village, 10 Kms north of Baquba kidnapping three civilians.’

Left by Pat on January 31st, 2008 at 3:43 pm

News Flash, Pat — there is a war going on in Iraq. People die in war. Every day usually.

Have you spent time in a combat zone? You’d remember that if you did.

Do you know who else was killed in the GWoT this week? Al Qaeda’s No. 3 man, Abu Laith al-Libi.

To state that President Bush “broke” Iraq is to bury your head in the sand and invent your own reality. Iraq has been “broke” for a long time under Saddam Hussein. Is it fixed yet? Of course not. Is it on it’s way? Yep.

Could any of this have happened without the US intervening to take out one of the most evil and dangerous men in the world? Nope.

Things have improved significantly since the surge — the surge that Dems opposed. The surge that defeat-ocrats said would not work is working.

Left by Robbie Cooper on January 31st, 2008 at 4:18 pm

Robbie, attempting to slur Obama as being an Islamic extremist is just really really low - and it’s incorrect, anyways. These are just slightly new variants on the same slime spread by Republicans (and Hillary’s dirty-trickers too) debunked here:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/obama.asp

You’re a very bad person.

Left by M1EK on January 31st, 2008 at 4:50 pm

For Goodness sakes, it’s Debbie Schlussel nonsense. Pass it by.

Left by Charlie on January 31st, 2008 at 4:57 pm

Senator Obama is a Christian and belongs to the same Christian church w/his wife Michelle in Chicago, Illinois.

Spreading these types of rumors lets people know that you may have affiliations w/the KKK, the worst terroist group in America although I do not believe you belong to this group. I have seen this group as a black child. I never made accusations that Bill and Hillary Clinton have affiliations w/this group although they made derogative remarks about African Americans.

Also, please remember, this old but alive group is still in existence in the deep south states as well as the rest of the nation. Senator Obama is offering to lead the United States to a better life for all citizens now especially through education.

Through education we learn to read and are able to qualify for a better life w/excellent guidance. Why would you want everything to remain the same? In fact the Bush years have not been the worst years. Those years simply reminded lots of older Americans about the hard years that this country has endured in the past.

These older Americans never want to see those years again. Let us all vote for a better life - VOTE FOR SENATOR BARACK OBAMA.

Left by realitygirl 2 on January 31st, 2008 at 5:09 pm

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Left by realitygirl 2 on January 31st, 2008 at 5:11 pm

I tried to respond to the comments but the link would not accept. Why?

Left by realitygirl 2 on January 31st, 2008 at 5:13 pm

Obambi’s church is a Marxist liberation theology church, headed by Jeremiah Wright, a former(?) member of NOI, and whose church magazine awarded Farahkan a lifetime achievement award. Go to their website, Trinity United Church of Christ, and read their about page. The only time Christ is mentioned is in the title.
Obambi is either:
a)a Christian, which makes him an apostate to Islam
or
b)is still a muslim, in stealth form.
I think it is b, not only based on Debbie’s article, but on my research into his background. His cousin, Raila Odinga, the one who lost the election in Kenya last month, and began the current murderous rampage in that country, claims he is an Anglican. However, he signed an agreement with the Muslim Leadership Council of Kenya, that if they supported his campaign, he would introduce Sharia Law in that country. Odinga agreed to Talibanize Kenya, a democratic state with a constitution. Maybe B-HO has some nefarious intentions for this country, as well. I’d rather not gamble on that.
As for B-HO claiming he is a uniter, then why does he attend an Israel bashing church, that promotes black separatism and supremacy?
Apparently the above commenter is gullible enough to believe the empty rhetoric and numerous platitiudes of B-HO. Fine, live in your own private Idaho, but if you want another look at the one you seem to idolize, and think is the savior of mankind, then google this…Obama Odinga Cousins. You will find a wealth of info that the stealth Muslim candidate from Illinois isn’t telling you.

Left by no2liberals on January 31st, 2008 at 9:31 pm

Wow. Reading comprehension on the Left is abysmal.

I’ve never said that Barack Hussein (glory be to Allah) Obama was Muslim. In fact, quite to the contrary, I’ve stated numerous times that I know he’s not a Muslim.

But he is an apostate. And he is close to the NOI and his family is filled with Muslims.

There’s no denying that the guy is a friend of Islam.

Left by Robbie Cooper on January 31st, 2008 at 9:32 pm

An apostate and a friend of Islam?

Your talking points are crashing into each other.

Left by Preston on January 31st, 2008 at 11:18 pm

I still say B-Ho is a stealth muslim candidate.
His bagman got sent to jail.

Left by no2liberals on February 1st, 2008 at 1:14 am

Your talking points are crashing into each other.

are these things mutually exclusive or have you just outwitted yourself again?

Left by adam on February 1st, 2008 at 2:47 am

Yeah — they would seem to be contradictory — and likely are. But within Islam “when” you become an apostate matters, and they regard children who leave Islam differently than adults who do so.

Typically there is not jihad against children apostates; Barack was a child when he left Islam.

His close relationships with NOI are perhaps his way of getting back into good graces with those who have doubts in Islam. Perhaps, I’m wrong and the greater Islamic world doesn’t regard him as an apostate at all. Or perhaps he really is still a stealth Muslim.

I don’t know for certain. I do know that his past Islamic ties, family, and upbringing, combined with his current cozying up to the NOI makes me suspicious and weary of the man.

Left by Robbie Cooper on February 1st, 2008 at 8:48 am

“Things have improved significantly since the surge — the surge that Dems opposed. The surge that defeat-ocrats said would not work is working.”

By which metric? Fours hours of electricity a day instead of just two? 39 US troops dead in January as opposed to 23 in December, 31 in March 06? Only you, Mccain, and a rapidly dwinding gaggle of willfully ignorant dittoheads believe such nonsense. For well over year, a solid majority of Americans has consistently said it was a mistake to invade Iraq and are demanding an end this Republican war.

Ask the average Iraqi working outside the Green Zone if he’s better off today than he was five years ago. Far more violent deaths and malady have occurred in Iraq since the US invasion and occupation than in all the years Saddam was in power. A recent British study indicated that 1.03 million have perished as a direct result of the war, while an estimated 640,000 perished under Saddam. That is out of 4 million households. By comparison, if this were happening at home, 28 million Americans would have perished since March 2003 at the rate of 16,000 each day. If this were your homeland, could you say with a straight face that such circumstances were acceptable? Would you actually prefer it to five years ago when only 4,000 of your countrymen perished each day? When the lights stayed on and the water ran clear most days??

Turn to any news source other than Fixed News or Wingnut Daily you’ll see that four hours of electricity per day and medieval maladies like dysentary and cholera running rampant in a huge (until recently) modern city like Baghdad five years after the Glorious American Invasion has done very little to persuade the general population. (A trillion dollars of our hard earned money and we can’t even get that right.) And Saint Patraeus’ Surge to Nowhere has done zilch to persuade the Iraqi government that it’s safe to act civilized again in the cradle of civilization. Face it wingnuts - Iraq is a failed state, and you will have the dubious honor of having precipitated its demise into decades of sectarian chaos a’la Israel. Heckuva job, I’d say.

The sooner President Obama excises us from that shithole, the sooner our new progressive majority can start undoing the mess that eight years of presidential lawlessness and Republican corruption has wrought on our great nation.

Left by Pat on February 1st, 2008 at 12:18 pm

Just out of curiosity, Pat — but are you Muslim?

Have you ever served in the Military?

Have you ever been outside of the green zone yourself to evaluate what is going in Iraq?

Have you ever read the reporting from Military bloggers who are embedded in Iraq (and have been there for a long time) — such as Michael Yon or Bill Roggio? Or do you only get your “Iraq is a failure” rhetoric from Keith “The Worst Person in the World” Olbermann, and other anti-war narrative journalists who have never spent any real time outside of the green zone?

Do you really thing that pulling out of Iraq and Afghanistan is going to end terrorism? Do you really believe that simply “leaving them alone” will keep us safe from attack?

How far in the sand do you have your head buried?

Left by Robbie Cooper on February 1st, 2008 at 1:07 pm

Robbie, I think you are being generous, I’m not so sure it is sand his head is buried in.
What a coincidence that just this morning I got an email from a good friend who is in Iraq. He is a Christian American of Kurdish heritage, as he had to flee Iraq as a young man, because he refused to join Saddam’s Army. He made a good life for himself here, and is a proud citizen, but when the opportunity came, he enlisted through the State Dept. as a translator for our military, before the invasion in ‘03, and he’s still there. He’s my hero! He’s been wounded twice by IED’s, and calls every now and then, and emails often, to let me know how things are, and since about August, whenever I talk to him, he is always laughing and relaxed, telling me it’s unbelievable how things have improved. Today, and he should be back in Diyala by now, he escorted some military officers to Baghdad to meet with MOI officials about their reconstruction efforts in that province. He and the officers were looking forward to the trip, and having some good food.
I will post some pics when he sends them.
I’ll take the word of my friend of fifteen years over some typically negative liberal from the ether, that has neither been there or done that, or most likely, not done much at all.

Left by no2liberals on February 1st, 2008 at 3:10 pm

Heh. I do read Austin Bay, NRO, John Hinderaker, LGF, etc., and occasionally The Corner. Warbloggers aren’t a real diverse bunch so I don’t have to dip in too far to feel the temperature.

Nothing will end terrorism. If anything could, it certainly isn’t the course Bush has taken. You’ll recall we had virtually no arab-speaking agents working in the CIA/NSA on 9/11, and are still woefully understaffed under Bush today. Invading Iraq has only lent credence to the terrorist’s belief that his actions will have the intended effect of drawing the targeted population into his conflict, thereby validating his delusions of grandeur - what could be more fulfilling? Proponents of Endless War think that the only way to resist the Muslims who hate us is to punish their countrymen and occupy their homelands, ignoring that the century-plus of Western military intervention in its affairs has not rectified but only magnified the problems of the middle east. What’s that definition of insanity again?

9/11 was not the end of history. It was not a military attack on America, and to treat its perpetrators as legitimate military actors was a bad mistake for which we will pay for years. The Taliban deserved to be ousted afterward because there was international consensus that they aided and abetted the highjackings, so we had every right to go after them and the arch-criminals they harbored. But terrorism is simply a crime, and history has proven time and again, particularly since 9/11, that only the tried and true method of stopping and catching terrorists is by using shrewd human intel and old-fashioned gumshoe detective work .

Elevating OBL and al Queda by overreacting to 9/11 effectively legitimized them and their murderous efforts to millions of previously undoctrinated young people throughout the Muslim world. The unbridled lawbreaking (warrantless spying on Americans, unitary executive, waterboarding) under this adminstration was OBL’s master stroke, reducing the hallowed traditions of American freedom and justice to mere platitude. And thinking that invading the easy target of Iraq would magically produce a glorious revolution of democracy from whole cloth there, much less in the region, when all evidence indicated a no less than a pot-boil of sectarian tension bubbling underneath Saddam’s fist, represented the zenith of neocon hubris and would never have been adopted as official US policy under proper leadership. Effective leaders resist such reactionary tendencies during national emergencies, times when people are almost unanimously willing to suspend the status quo and rule of law in favor of their safety, and Bush’s failure to meet that challenge like a grown-up will come back to haunt this country for decades to come.

Left by Pat on February 1st, 2008 at 4:20 pm

*yawn*

Left by no2liberals on February 1st, 2008 at 10:04 pm

The Sunni insurgency, all but decimated in the imagination of the surge advocates, has demonstrated something of a surge of its own in recent weeks. Baghdad, Anbar and Diyala provinces, the hotbeds of the insurgency, have seen a return of high-profile suicide bombing. Prominent collaborators with the U.S., like the so-called “Concerned Local Citizens” militias, have been targeted for death by insurgents and terrorists. “Of late, though, as you’ve been seeing, is certainly an increase in the number of suicide events that occur with individuals, mostly with a suicide vest wrapped around their waist,” Adm. Greg Smith, a spokesman for Multi-National Force-Iraq, said in a blogger conference call last week.

Iraq security statistics over the past 13 weeks, obtained exclusively by The Washington Independent, tell the tale. In Baghdad, improvised-explosive device (IED) detonations explosions in Baghdad have ticked up slightly to 131 in January from 129 in December—and the last week of January is not included in these latest figures. Countrywide, there was an increase in IED explosions to 2,291 in December from 1,394 in November, followed by a dip to 1,270 in the first three weeks of January. But the week ending on January 25 saw seven suicide explosions Iraq-wide, the most since the week ending Dec. 21, 2007.

It is too early to conclude that the security gains of the surge are unwinding. But they’re being put under stress in a manner not seen since the so-called “Surge of Operations” began in mid-June. Some speculate that the insurgency, knocked on its heels by the changing tactics of U.S. forces in mid-2007, is beginning to adjust, a few months before the surge draws to a close. “I think there’s some credibility to that argument,” said Brian Katulis, a national-security expert at the liberal Center for American Progress. “It all begs the question of what’s the grand endgame.”

Left by Pat on February 2nd, 2008 at 8:29 am

BAGHDAD (Map, News) - Two female suicide bombers blew themselves up Friday in separate attacks on Baghdad pet bazaars, killing at least 64 people and wounding dozens, police said. The attacks were the deadliest in the Iraqi capital since 30,000 more American troops flooded into the center of the country last spring.

Left by Pat on February 2nd, 2008 at 8:32 am

WASHINGTON - The U.S. military isn’t ready for a catastrophic attack on the country, and National Guard forces don’t have the equipment or training they need for the job, according to a report.

Left by Patriot on February 2nd, 2008 at 8:35 am

How convenient for the last story by Pat, that it doesn’t mention that the two women were mentally disabled, and AQ detonated the bombs by remote.
Here’s some useful info:

There are 25,000 detainees in U.S. military custody in Iraq, according to the military. The numbers of enemy killed and detained would exceed the estimate given last year of the size of the insurgency.

Since the insurgency began after Baghdad fell in spring 2003, 19,429 militants have been killed in clashes with coalition forces, statistics show. The numbers do not include enemy killed during the invasion.

USA Today.

Left by no2liberals on February 2nd, 2008 at 8:55 am

In a very surprising thread posted tonight on Ekhlaas terrorist forum, the largest terrorist forum on the internet, the author of the thread was calling for urgent help to the terrorists in Iraq. He said that the last bastion controlled by the terrorists in Baghdad has fell in the hands of the US and Iraqi forces. He described the situation in Iraq as very dangerous and very difficult. He said that weapons are few but men are even fewer.

This thread on Ekhlaas terrorist forum is a very surprising admission of defeat and confirms without any doubt that they are running out of terrorists males in particular the foreign non Iraqi terrorists who used to conduct massive suicide terrorist attacks. Today we saw the terrorists using two mentally retarded women to unwillingly conduct terrorist attacks in Baghdad market by detonating them from a distance. Just six months ago the terrorists were saying that they must never use women in “Jihad”, in the last few weeks we have seen more suicide terrorist attacks conducted by women and now we are seeing them using mentally handicapped women to do their evil deeds.

Largest Terrorist Forum: Situation in Iraq is Very Difficult, Weapons are Few, Men Are Fewer.
MSM Reduces Coverage As Surge Succeeds.(This one has pretty pictures and graphs)
And here’s a video, Haifa Street:One Year Later.

Left by no2liberals on February 2nd, 2008 at 9:19 am

Pat, so you think the dems have the answer to this war of religions that has been going on for thousands of years??? Really the dems can solve this? Did clinton? Did carter? Did anyone in the senate go over there and broker a deal that lasted???? NO.!

Don’t be a fool and think anyone can solve this thing. And yeah iraq is a mess now, but that happens after a dictator is toppled. Read how long it took germany to recover, japan, etc. Get a grip. Did anyone think we would go over there and the next day they would be having tea, surfing the internet shopping at the gap???? Damn people. It will take decades for this country to get it’s crap together. And as for you thinking the dems plan of pulling out and then setting up talks with these people so we can end the violence and all just get along…..OH my God!!!! that is some pie in the sky thinking.

How does one get so brain washed??? There will never be peace with these barbarians, NEVER. They will want to kill until the last infadel is gone. Can’t you libs get that thru your thick head after 911?? God how dumbed down have we become when a good portion of people actually think these human scum bags can be bargained with. I wish we would have pulled a carpet bombing campaign like in WW2 on the entire region. We should have started bombing and not stopped until every city, hill, cave was crushed. THAT is the only way this will ever end. It is us or them.

They hate us and our western ways, can’t the libs understand that? They hate the LEFT even more than the right.

It is the left that stands for gay marraige, abortion, casual drug use, all the movies and music which they hate, our party culture, etc…..Get a grip, it will be the left that is FIRST against the wall to be shot if we lose this thing. Don’t you get that????

It is the right that is trying to save your LIFE.!!!!!!!

Left by marc on February 2nd, 2008 at 11:25 am

Marc, excellent rant, and dead on.

Left by no2liberals on February 2nd, 2008 at 1:57 pm

“Get a grip, it will be the left that is FIRST against the wall to be shot if we lose this thing. Don’t you get that???? It is the right that is trying to save your LIFE.!!!!!!!”

I’ll give you credit, at least you admit which side represents the biggest treat to the terrorists’ goals, and that you wingnuts really share more common cause with radical muslims than us liberals. Birds of a feather do flock together.

Left by Pat on February 2nd, 2008 at 3:27 pm

No Pat. The reason that the Left will be lined up and shot first is because of 1) their lifestyles (the jihadis have some very creative methods when it comes to executing homosexuals), and 2) they won’t put up any resistance.

In this world, there are wolves (muslim terrorists), sheep (you), and Sheepdogs (Soldiers, Marines, cops, etc.) who protect the sheep (you) from the wolves.

Left by Robbie Cooper on February 2nd, 2008 at 4:03 pm

at least you admit which side represents the biggest treat to the terrorists’ goals

Yeah, the nutroot types like ol’Pat would make a nice bloody treat for the Mohmen. Of course, if it ever came to an open fight here at home, instead of a distant land where the LLL can just bitch and moan, they would be hiding behind every armed sheepdog in the country, wanting us to save their sorry, wimpy, bony-butts.

Left by no2liberals on February 2nd, 2008 at 6:44 pm

Geez - you guys must go thru an awful lot of underpants. No surprise that more than twice the amount of people are voting in Democratic primaries than in Republican ones. Your childish campaign of invoking fear has run its course. Political oblivion, meet the 25 percenters.

Left by Pat on February 2nd, 2008 at 7:17 pm

OOH, now he claims to be a seer, a veritable Nostradamus, an elite analyst of the electorate.
Pat, political fortunes rise and fall, and if the nutroot’s candidate gets elected, it will just be another four years of acrimony, cause there ain’t no way conservatives are going along with the donk’s Marxist agenda.

If Obambi gets elected, it will serve a useful purpose for the next election, as many have forgotten how bad it can be, when a donk is in the White House. Instead of sex toys on the White House staff Christmas tree like the Clintoon years, they will have no Christmas tree, but a strict observance of Ramadan-adingdong. That will make them like us, fo’sho’. LOL!

Left by no2liberals on February 2nd, 2008 at 10:24 pm

it will serve a useful purpose for the next election, as many have forgotten how bad it can be, when a donk is in the White House.

You really live in an alternate reality. Clinton’s approval ratings were at 66% when he left office. Bush will have to work hard just to have half as many supporters on his last day.

Left by Preston on February 3rd, 2008 at 1:24 pm

I will give Pat one thing, he is true blue to the dem principles. But firstly I can’t make any sense at all out of this comment: “I’ll give you credit, at least you admit which side represents the biggest threat to the terrorists’ goals, and that you wingnuts really share more common cause with radical muslims than us liberals. Birds of a feather do flock together.”

By this do you mean the left causes more fear and is a greater threat to the terrorists than the right??? Did I get that correct?? First of all they don’t FEAR what the left stands for in this country, they HATE it. Big difference there, you don’t get that?? Most of the radical left hate guns, never served in military, are neo hippies that what to hold hands and hope we can all just get along, think abortion is a good thing, think gay marriage is just as moral and good for society as hetero marriage, the government can make better decisions about their life than they can, libs think we need less military not more, etc, etc… that is suicide for a nation. Oh my gosh, muslims would love it if this country turned into 100% left thinking wimps, that would make the terrorists job MUCH easier. It is the RIGHT that represents the old tough heart of this country. The spirit of rugged individualism, take no crap & call it like it is, self reliance, love of hunting and yes the right to bear arms, a moral fiber that says marriage is one man and one woman and for the raising of good solid kids who will produce something not suck off the system, conservatives loves God and believe in something greater than themselves and this one dimensional life, the right believes in a strong miltary that strikes fear into anyone who faces them…The terrorists are FAR more scared of a tough right winger than a hand wringing cry baby left wing wacko. You can’t see that.???? You believe the terrorist fear hand holding more than bombs down their throats??? I read something the other day the muslims are hoping a democrate wins the presidency….that should SCREAM the left has it wrong..when our enemy who hates us is pulling for a weak liberal to win, that means it is good for THEM not us. How can someone not see this plain truth????

Your last statement about the right sharing more in common with terrorist Muslims is just a sick traitorous statement. I have no clue how your twisted mind came to that conclusion. The Right love America, we value our history and want all Americans to be free of oppression be that foreign or domestic. Are you so BLIND you don’t get that????? We are fighting for YOUR rights too my friend. I would love nothing more than if I turned on the TV this morning and saw our fighters and ships unloading everything they had on the entire middle east region. I would say give the people over there a few hours to get the woman and children out then completely flatten the entire region and kill these scum bags who attacked us and destroy whatever bases and weapons they have….Does that sound like somebody who is on the side of the enemy??? I hate what the terrorist stand for. If we don’t stop them, they will NEVER stop. Don’t you read history? the Muslims have always tried to impose their will on the west. they kill and invade until they are pushed back every single time….IT IS IN THEIR CULTURE AND RELIGION TO DO THAT. How can any American even think these people can be bargained with??? God it is sad we have such weak minded people in this country.

Go ahead and say I am a killer and no different than them. Go ahead and think we can reason with a people that have been at this for thousands of years and have NOTHING to lose. If that is the way you think then we will never see eye to eye. Yes I think bush did not handle this well. Yes I don’t like him, but not because he is too hard but because I think he is not ENOUGH of a hard ass. This is not a game. These people will not change their view of us; once again they hate the west and all of its degenerate ways. And like I said if we lose this war, and Muslims do bring down the west somehow, it will be the liberal left that they hunt down first because the left embodies everything they hate about the west….Can you understand that or not???

Left by marc on February 3rd, 2008 at 1:33 pm

Preston, surely you have heard the tale of the pot calling the kettle black, haven’t you?
This isn’t the class president winning a popularity contest. You are the one always focused on polls as meaningful, and you always revert back to issues and ideas when it suits you.
His eight years were a disaster. Scandal after scandal, mysterious death after mysterious death of close associates, terrorist attack after terrorist attack with no response or reprisal(well an aspirin plant was blown up). Had it not been for Ross Perot, he would have never gotten elected in the first place, as he never got more than 49% of the popular vote, and to me, that’s a greater indicator of popularity, if that’s what you are looking for.
The suicide rates in the military during the Clinton years were higher than they are now, and we weren’t even in a war footing during his years.
So, Preston, if you believe some rigged approval poll is your standard for a successful Presidency, then it’s time to click your heels together three times, say Mekka-lekka hi mekka hiney ho…Mekka-lekka hi mekka chahney ho…Mola-mekka chala mekka hola hayla hey…and beam your self back to your reality.

Left by no2liberals on February 3rd, 2008 at 2:01 pm

The Right love America, we value our history and want all Americans to be free of oppression be that foreign or domestic. Are you so BLIND you don’t get that????? We are fighting for YOUR rights too my friend

My rights, Marc? If only you were being ironic. How about my rights under the 4th amendment? How about the right of Habeas Corpus? Voting rights sure seem to be favorite of the GOP too. While you’re pissing your pants over some madman’s desire for the imposition of Sharia law in Texas you are losing rights one by one to a mob of patriots.

So, Preston, if you believe some rigged approval poll is your standard for a successful Presidency,
Ok Pauline Kael, did you read your own comment? I was explicitly told that Americans have forgotten how bad it was during the 1990’s. I’m telling you that they haven’t forgotten a thing- the were quite satisfied with their government.

Left by Preston on February 3rd, 2008 at 2:58 pm

Preston, click those heels, and do the Jambi thing.
You are obviously impressed with a popularity poll, I’m not, I remember what those years were like, a Horny Hick that set policy based on focus groups and polls, like you, but not on core principles, or the reality of the world around us. When you say they were quite satisfied with their government, then of course you mean the Republican Congress that came to office after his first two disastrous years, and minimized the damage he could have done, which was significant already, and whose ideas he often co-opted, despite his own parties wishes, because the focus groups and polls showed that was what America wanted.
So the Horny Hick claimed during his first campaign, that he would give a tax cut to the middle class, but then he said he couldn’t after he got in office. (Funny, the video used to be on youtube, but the LLL at google have removed all of his videos)
Then he sent our troops into Bosnia, and claimed they would be home by that Christmas, but lo and behold they are still there.
He decides to shoot missiles at OBL, but informs the Pakistan ISI that the missile is coming. He shoots missiles at Iraq, curiously, the night before the Impeachment proceedings. His admin shakes Microsoft down for millions, he sends the IRS after his opponents, he illegally transfers a thousand or more raw FBI files.
Yeah, I remember those years, just one disastrous day after another. You can take that popularity poll and shove it back in the dark, moist, and smelly orifice where you pulled it out from.

Left by no2liberals on February 3rd, 2008 at 4:03 pm

If we only had a President to implement the massively unpopular policies you advocate this would be a fantastic country.

Democracy sucks.

Left by Preston on February 3rd, 2008 at 6:24 pm

Ahh, so it’s about me now, after my reminders of what those disastrous Clintoon years were like?
What, pray tell, are the policies I advocate, as you perceive?
I’m certain you are wrong about them, but I would like to see what you come up with.
As a reminder, the President doesn’t implement policy, he forwards his agenda, and yes Democracy does suck, but Representative Republics are awesome.

Left by no2liberals on February 3rd, 2008 at 9:59 pm

Lots of black children were given Muslim names after the 60s. Lots of black children were given European names during and after slavery. Lots of black children have a mixture of all of these names now. Why do you continue to persecute a race and all people who have endured the persecution of Bush, Clinton/Monica, Hoover, WWl and WWll? Talk to your parents or grandparents who are at least 60 and over and ask them about the horrible crimes of hangings, rapes, and even Bush’s state of Texas with the man who is dragged by a car. All of the above is not in history books now.

Left by realitygirl2 on February 4th, 2008 at 2:26 pm

Doth sayeth limitedrealitygirl.

Left by no2liberals on February 4th, 2008 at 2:48 pm