I think it’s safe to say that more Michiganders will be injured and die in car accidents than if the law had not been changed.

hardly an argument for enabling lawbreakers, and i’m not sure i follow you anyhow. care to elaborate? it sounds like your claiming that this law somehow makes criminals turn into bad drivers.

you go on to lay the blame with the federal government, which i partially agree with. yet then you claim that the public welfare is being endangered by the states. instead of the blame game, how about you slow the moving target long enough to deal with one issue at a time. by your bass-ackwards logic, 53 states are still endangering their citizens by not giving licenses to illegals.

Actually, as my post stated the Michigan law will increase illegal behavior: there will be more people driving without licenses and therefore without insurance leading to a predictable increase in hit and runs. I think it’s safe to say that more Michiganders will be injured and die in car accidents than if the law had not been changed.

I have stated several times my belief that the Federal government has done a lax job in enforcing immigration law. But this failure does not compel states to endanger the public welfare by attempting to fill in where the Federal government has fallen.

We should be able to verify that, Adam.

agreed. perhaps not this week or month but in a year or two.

Do you suspect that illegal immigration in Michigan, Hawaii, Maine, Maryland, New Mexico, Oregon, Utah and Washington are any higher than the rest of the states?

what does it matter? the issue is “do state laws encourage violations of federal immigration laws?” this one did and now it doesn’t. rates of illegal immigration are determined by all sorts of factors. i don’t know for sure but i would speculate proximity to a border would be the primary factor. also, previously established ethnic communities would also be a factor. but to answer the question i think your asking, yes, i believe the liklihood that a state, it’s residents, and it’s laws will look the other way regarding illegal immigration, will impact illegals’ decisions to come or not.

i’m curious as to why you would try to divert attention from preventing law breaking to statistics that may blur what’s largely a black and white issue.