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	<title>Comments on: SCOTUS: No Picture ID? No Vote for You.</title>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2008/04/id-required-for-voting/#comment-135016</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 21:07:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sigh. So what. The ruling is still 6 to 3 upholding the law. Get over it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sigh. So what. The ruling is still 6 to 3 upholding the law. Get over it.</p>
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		<title>By: Preston</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2008/04/id-required-for-voting/#comment-135008</link>
		<dc:creator>Preston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 04:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Plurality/majority whatever. &lt;/em&gt;
Sigh.  Actually, anonymous, this isn&#039;t just baseball where nothing matters but the final score: the text of the opinion is crucial.  Sure, Stevens wrote that the state had the right to implement this law but Scalia was much, much more expansive in his interpretation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Plurality/majority whatever. </em><br />
Sigh.  Actually, anonymous, this isn&#8217;t just baseball where nothing matters but the final score: the text of the opinion is crucial.  Sure, Stevens wrote that the state had the right to implement this law but Scalia was much, much more expansive in his interpretation.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2008/04/id-required-for-voting/#comment-134995</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 12:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Plurality/majority whatever. The fact is that it was a  6 to 3 vote to uphold the Indiana voter ID law.  So, get over it.  But, thanks again for proving that leftards  have a vested interest in voter fraud.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plurality/majority whatever. The fact is that it was a  6 to 3 vote to uphold the Indiana voter ID law.  So, get over it.  But, thanks again for proving that leftards  have a vested interest in voter fraud.</p>
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		<title>By: no2liberals</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2008/04/id-required-for-voting/#comment-134990</link>
		<dc:creator>no2liberals</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 05:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, dude, it doesn&#039;t.
Ginsberg, look up her background from her ACLU daze, a far left ideologue.
I&#039;m glad you were able to discern that info on Stevens opinion, even if it took you awhile.
Whose hypothesis, Huff-N-Puff Post?
Of course, since the ruling was made from sound juridical principles, and common sense, because it doesn&#039;t favor the liberal position, it&#039;s extreme.
Reasonableness continues to evade you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, dude, it doesn&#8217;t.<br />
Ginsberg, look up her background from her ACLU daze, a far left ideologue.<br />
I&#8217;m glad you were able to discern that info on Stevens opinion, even if it took you awhile.<br />
Whose hypothesis, Huff-N-Puff Post?<br />
Of course, since the ruling was made from sound juridical principles, and common sense, because it doesn&#8217;t favor the liberal position, it&#8217;s extreme.<br />
Reasonableness continues to evade you.</p>
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		<title>By: Preston</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2008/04/id-required-for-voting/#comment-134984</link>
		<dc:creator>Preston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 01:54:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a drag to be in a debate where you have to stop arguing your position just to explain what happened:

Stevens wrote the plurality opinion not the majority.  It&#039;s hypothesized that he broke with the liberal wing to keep Scalia from forming a majority opinion that was even more extreme than this decision.

So, it&#039;s &#039;reasonable&#039; to call Ginsburg names but not Scalia?  Incidentally, exactly what &#039;ideology&#039; do you accuse Ginsburg of adhering to?

&lt;em&gt;
No one in favor of photo ID is celebrating that any will be denied their vote, &lt;/em&gt;

Check out the top of the page, dude.  Despite NO EVIDENCE of systematic fraud this post cites blogs that drool with excitement at the prospect of Democrats being denied the vote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a drag to be in a debate where you have to stop arguing your position just to explain what happened:</p>
<p>Stevens wrote the plurality opinion not the majority.  It&#8217;s hypothesized that he broke with the liberal wing to keep Scalia from forming a majority opinion that was even more extreme than this decision.</p>
<p>So, it&#8217;s &#8216;reasonable&#8217; to call Ginsburg names but not Scalia?  Incidentally, exactly what &#8216;ideology&#8217; do you accuse Ginsburg of adhering to?</p>
<p><em><br />
No one in favor of photo ID is celebrating that any will be denied their vote, </em></p>
<p>Check out the top of the page, dude.  Despite NO EVIDENCE of systematic fraud this post cites blogs that drool with excitement at the prospect of Democrats being denied the vote.</p>
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		<title>By: no2liberals</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2008/04/id-required-for-voting/#comment-134969</link>
		<dc:creator>no2liberals</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 16:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Preston, you call Justice Scalia names, then say you are reasonable?
Your arguments are hollow.  You are just repeating the same meme the liberals in the ACLU, ACORN, and other &quot;advocacy&quot; groups are saying.
No one is being disenfranchised, other than those who aren&#039;t legally eligible to vote.  If some illegals immigrants aren&#039;t able to vote, good, that&#039;s as it should be.  If some felons aren&#039;t able to vote, once again, good, that&#039;s the law.  If some of the many thousands of bogus registrations that ACORN has submitted in several states aren&#039;t accompanied with proper photo ID, then good, the integrity of the voting system is maintained.
You tend to repeat the argument that the litigants in this case tried and failed with, that the State didn&#039;t show any examples of voter fraud.  So why didn&#039;t the litigants present these multitudes of people that will be disenfranchised?
Disenfranchisement is primarily a donk tool, such as algore and his counsel getting U.S. military absentee ballots thrown out, due to postmark technicalities, as APO&#039;s don&#039;t postmark, then celebrating that they had gotten those votes tossed.  No one in favor of photo ID is celebrating that any will be denied their vote, we are celebrating the fact that those who are eligible to vote, will not have their votes rendered useless due to fraud.
Absentee ballots have controls that ballot boxes don&#039;t, and the black helicopter theories on the electronic voting machines is just that, a conspriacy theory.  Voter fraud has been going on for some time, to the point of being a standing joke, and the fact that so many states are taking action in this regard isn&#039;t based on any conspiracy theory, but of an existing problem
Now, if you really want to talk about hacks at the SCOTUS, lets talk about Ruth...what a dingus ideologue!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Preston, you call Justice Scalia names, then say you are reasonable?<br />
Your arguments are hollow.  You are just repeating the same meme the liberals in the ACLU, ACORN, and other &#8220;advocacy&#8221; groups are saying.<br />
No one is being disenfranchised, other than those who aren&#8217;t legally eligible to vote.  If some illegals immigrants aren&#8217;t able to vote, good, that&#8217;s as it should be.  If some felons aren&#8217;t able to vote, once again, good, that&#8217;s the law.  If some of the many thousands of bogus registrations that ACORN has submitted in several states aren&#8217;t accompanied with proper photo ID, then good, the integrity of the voting system is maintained.<br />
You tend to repeat the argument that the litigants in this case tried and failed with, that the State didn&#8217;t show any examples of voter fraud.  So why didn&#8217;t the litigants present these multitudes of people that will be disenfranchised?<br />
Disenfranchisement is primarily a donk tool, such as algore and his counsel getting U.S. military absentee ballots thrown out, due to postmark technicalities, as APO&#8217;s don&#8217;t postmark, then celebrating that they had gotten those votes tossed.  No one in favor of photo ID is celebrating that any will be denied their vote, we are celebrating the fact that those who are eligible to vote, will not have their votes rendered useless due to fraud.<br />
Absentee ballots have controls that ballot boxes don&#8217;t, and the black helicopter theories on the electronic voting machines is just that, a conspriacy theory.  Voter fraud has been going on for some time, to the point of being a standing joke, and the fact that so many states are taking action in this regard isn&#8217;t based on any conspiracy theory, but of an existing problem<br />
Now, if you really want to talk about hacks at the SCOTUS, lets talk about Ruth&#8230;what a dingus ideologue!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2008/04/id-required-for-voting/#comment-134967</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 14:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stevens wrote the majority opinion. And while I generally would agree that &lt;strong&gt;Stevens&lt;/strong&gt; is a hack and a hypocrite, in this instance he was not. [Don&#039;t want you to get confused again.]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stevens wrote the majority opinion. And while I generally would agree that <strong>Stevens</strong> is a hack and a hypocrite, in this instance he was not. [Don't want you to get confused again.]</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2008/04/id-required-for-voting/#comment-134966</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 13:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Scalia is a hack and a hypocrite. &lt;/em&gt;

Stevens wrote the majority opinion. And while I generally would agree that he is a hack and a hypocrite, in this instance he was not.  

&lt;em&gt;Look, Iâ€™m a reasonable guy. &lt;/em&gt;

No, you&#039;re not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Scalia is a hack and a hypocrite. </em></p>
<p>Stevens wrote the majority opinion. And while I generally would agree that he is a hack and a hypocrite, in this instance he was not.  </p>
<p><em>Look, Iâ€™m a reasonable guy. </em></p>
<p>No, you&#8217;re not.</p>
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		<title>By: Preston</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2008/04/id-required-for-voting/#comment-134965</link>
		<dc:creator>Preston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 11:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know how to spell it out for you: not everybody is you.  

Scalia is a hack and a hypocrite. &quot;Wise&quot; isn&#039;t in his repertoire. 

Look, I&#039;m a reasonable guy.  If there actually was a problem with this type of voter fraud (aside from the confused 72 year old who sometimes voted in Florida and sometimes voted in Indiana) I would set up a law that allowed people to bring in a wide variety of identification.  The widely used technique to prove residency is a utility bill.  If the person, came into vote without this I would have a provisional ballot.

But in the end all of this is unnecessary: &lt;strong&gt;because there is no problem!!!&lt;/strong&gt;  If I want to throw an election am I really going to go from precinct to precinct voting illegally or am I going to get a giant stack of absentee ballots?  Even better, I am going to compromise the integrity of an electronic voting machine and completely change the tally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know how to spell it out for you: not everybody is you.  </p>
<p>Scalia is a hack and a hypocrite. &#8220;Wise&#8221; isn&#8217;t in his repertoire. </p>
<p>Look, I&#8217;m a reasonable guy.  If there actually was a problem with this type of voter fraud (aside from the confused 72 year old who sometimes voted in Florida and sometimes voted in Indiana) I would set up a law that allowed people to bring in a wide variety of identification.  The widely used technique to prove residency is a utility bill.  If the person, came into vote without this I would have a provisional ballot.</p>
<p>But in the end all of this is unnecessary: <strong>because there is no problem!!!</strong>  If I want to throw an election am I really going to go from precinct to precinct voting illegally or am I going to get a giant stack of absentee ballots?  Even better, I am going to compromise the integrity of an electronic voting machine and completely change the tally.</p>
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		<title>By: no2liberals</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2008/04/id-required-for-voting/#comment-134961</link>
		<dc:creator>no2liberals</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 03:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I don&#039;t love liberal reactionaries.
Exactly how are American voters being disenfranchised?  Are you saying you and your liberal memo producers are more wisened than state legislatures and the Supremes?
I challenge that assertion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I don&#8217;t love liberal reactionaries.<br />
Exactly how are American voters being disenfranchised?  Are you saying you and your liberal memo producers are more wisened than state legislatures and the Supremes?<br />
I challenge that assertion.</p>
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