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		<title>By: kw</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2008/06/john-avarosis-pos/#comment-137682</link>
		<dc:creator>kw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 03:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...look like Pat&#039;s been playing with lead paint chips again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;look like Pat&#8217;s been playing with lead paint chips again.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2008/06/john-avarosis-pos/#comment-137657</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 21:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The reason your dad and your brothers don&#039;t talk to you about it is because you just wouldn&#039;t get it.&lt;/blockquote&gt;


You powers of self-delusion are only exceeded by your misanthropic worldview.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The reason your dad and your brothers don&#8217;t talk to you about it is because you just wouldn&#8217;t get it.</p></blockquote>
<p>You powers of self-delusion are only exceeded by your misanthropic worldview.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2008/06/john-avarosis-pos/#comment-137656</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 20:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;font color=&quot;red&quot;&gt;[Editor --- Pat&#039;s entire cut and paste job was deleted. But here&#039;s the link he was pasting from to the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/6/30/223436/275/665/544457&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Daily Kos&lt;/a&gt; site, where some veterans have chimed in agreeing with Gen. Clark.]&lt;/font&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><font color="red">[Editor --- Pat's entire cut and paste job was deleted. But here's the link he was pasting from to the <a href="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/6/30/223436/275/665/544457" rel="nofollow">Daily Kos</a> site, where some veterans have chimed in agreeing with Gen. Clark.]</font></p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2008/06/john-avarosis-pos/#comment-137655</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 20:49:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>General Clark, 

You were right to say that Senator McCain has not shown good judgment, despite his extraordinary service to America. Just in the past few years:

- Senator McCain&#039;s service and experience, both as a POW and as a Senator apparently hasn&#039;t infused him with a dose of good judgment.

- Senator McCain&#039;s experience hasn&#039;t led him to realize that the war in Iraq and it&#039;s continuance has empowered and emboldened Iran, and destabilized the region.

- Senator McCain&#039;s experience hasn&#039;t caused him to recognize that we&#039;re losing ground in Afghanistan, and Osama bin Laden is still out there, plotting.

- Senator McCain&#039;s experience didn&#039;t lead him to support the 21st Century GI Bill -- he opposed it. It didn&#039;t even make him feel the need to get back to Washington to vote on this -- one of the most important veterans&#039; bills this Congress. He twice skipped votes on the GI Bill, to fundraise.

- Senator McCain&#039;s experience didn&#039;t help him empathize with troops are overstretched and overdeployed, when he voted against the bipartisan Webb-Hagel &quot;Dwell Time Amendment,&quot; which would have given troops as much time at home as in the field.

We all honor Senator McCain&#039;s service, as you said you do. But that does not mean that on matters of security, the military, and veterans that he is beyond reproach. Nor does it mean that his service trumps the poor judgment he has shown in some of the most important issues of our time.

Do not back down, and keep treating the American people like adults who can handle a real, honest, and blunt debate in these important times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>General Clark, </p>
<p>You were right to say that Senator McCain has not shown good judgment, despite his extraordinary service to America. Just in the past few years:</p>
<p>- Senator McCain&#8217;s service and experience, both as a POW and as a Senator apparently hasn&#8217;t infused him with a dose of good judgment.</p>
<p>- Senator McCain&#8217;s experience hasn&#8217;t led him to realize that the war in Iraq and it&#8217;s continuance has empowered and emboldened Iran, and destabilized the region.</p>
<p>- Senator McCain&#8217;s experience hasn&#8217;t caused him to recognize that we&#8217;re losing ground in Afghanistan, and Osama bin Laden is still out there, plotting.</p>
<p>- Senator McCain&#8217;s experience didn&#8217;t lead him to support the 21st Century GI Bill &#8212; he opposed it. It didn&#8217;t even make him feel the need to get back to Washington to vote on this &#8212; one of the most important veterans&#8217; bills this Congress. He twice skipped votes on the GI Bill, to fundraise.</p>
<p>- Senator McCain&#8217;s experience didn&#8217;t help him empathize with troops are overstretched and overdeployed, when he voted against the bipartisan Webb-Hagel &#8220;Dwell Time Amendment,&#8221; which would have given troops as much time at home as in the field.</p>
<p>We all honor Senator McCain&#8217;s service, as you said you do. But that does not mean that on matters of security, the military, and veterans that he is beyond reproach. Nor does it mean that his service trumps the poor judgment he has shown in some of the most important issues of our time.</p>
<p>Do not back down, and keep treating the American people like adults who can handle a real, honest, and blunt debate in these important times.</p>
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		<title>By: Maggie</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2008/06/john-avarosis-pos/#comment-137605</link>
		<dc:creator>Maggie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 00:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are times when I cannot read your blog because the topic gets me completely pissed off and I end up in a screaming rant at whoever is nearby. 

Today, unfortunately, I read this post, and the comments, and I honestly wish I had missed today. 

What a sad, pitiful excuse for a man this Aravosis is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are times when I cannot read your blog because the topic gets me completely pissed off and I end up in a screaming rant at whoever is nearby. </p>
<p>Today, unfortunately, I read this post, and the comments, and I honestly wish I had missed today. </p>
<p>What a sad, pitiful excuse for a man this Aravosis is.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2008/06/john-avarosis-pos/#comment-137600</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 21:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And look who&#039;s leading the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2004/10/14/AR2005033105699.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Pearl-Clutching Vets for McCain&lt;/a&gt;

How quaint.  Is this really all you&#039;ve got?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And look who&#8217;s leading the <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2004/10/14/AR2005033105699.html" rel="nofollow">Pearl-Clutching Vets for McCain</a></p>
<p>How quaint.  Is this really all you&#8217;ve got?</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2008/06/john-avarosis-pos/#comment-137598</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 20:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and for the record, lest you launch another barrage of childish invective a me, my late father was SSGT E7 in the Medical Corps, and spent 1942-1945 in Europe.  I have three brothers who are vets, the oldest of which was drafted and spent 18 months in Vietnam.  I lived in Killeen from 1969-1980.   I am no stranger to the military, nor am I a blind devotee to every swinging dick who happened to serve.   

&lt;font color=&quot;red&quot;&gt;[Editor --- Pat, all this proves is that there are some honorable men in your family. So your disdain for the military does not appear to be genetic. This is the second time today where I&#039;ve seen this happen, and I&#039;ve realized that I&#039;ve seen it a lot more in the recent past --- where people who have never served list the long lineage of family who has. As if though there is a transference of their valor and courage. 

Sorry. But it doesn&#039;t work that way. It never ceases to amaze me how people like you will list all of the brave veterans that you know or are related to as if though that somehow means something. You associate with them in words only, but not in the way that really matters...you never chose to join them on the field of battle.]&lt;/font&gt;

To my father and his GI buddies, the honorable veteran wasn&#039;t one who went around waving his stars and bars around expecting everyone to acknowledge his bravery and glory.  Merely serving your fellow citizens is reward enough for the virtuous, while self-aggrandizing brown-nosers will always crave validation and acknowledgement.

&lt;font color=&quot;red&quot;&gt;[Editor --- You know, the only people I ever hear say this or actually believe this are twits who have never actually served. The reason your dad and your brothers don&#039;t talk to you about it is because you just wouldn&#039;t get it. Combat veterans do talk about war. Quite a bit actually. They just prefer to do so with other combat vets. And a real veteran would never disparage another vet who chose to talk about or be proud of his service. Each veteran has earned that right.

Besides if Veterans won&#039;t talk about combat, who will tell the tales of truth? The media? You? Our liberal teachers and academics?

Some of the proudest and bravest veterans I know are none to shy about talking about their service. Nearly every WWII veteran I know wears a hat proclaiming what unit or ship they served on. All of the Vietnam bikers I ride with have their unit patches and service ribbons all over their vests.

Oh, and if your father was an E-7 he would have been a SFC, not a Staff Sergeant (E-6). But I couldn&#039;t really expect a puke like you to actually know that.]&lt;/font&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and for the record, lest you launch another barrage of childish invective a me, my late father was SSGT E7 in the Medical Corps, and spent 1942-1945 in Europe.  I have three brothers who are vets, the oldest of which was drafted and spent 18 months in Vietnam.  I lived in Killeen from 1969-1980.   I am no stranger to the military, nor am I a blind devotee to every swinging dick who happened to serve.   </p>
<p><font color="red">[Editor --- Pat, all this proves is that there are some honorable men in your family. So your disdain for the military does not appear to be genetic. This is the second time today where I've seen this happen, and I've realized that I've seen it a lot more in the recent past --- where people who have never served list the long lineage of family who has. As if though there is a transference of their valor and courage. </p>
<p>Sorry. But it doesn't work that way. It never ceases to amaze me how people like you will list all of the brave veterans that you know or are related to as if though that somehow means something. You associate with them in words only, but not in the way that really matters...you never chose to join them on the field of battle.]</font></p>
<p>To my father and his GI buddies, the honorable veteran wasn&#8217;t one who went around waving his stars and bars around expecting everyone to acknowledge his bravery and glory.  Merely serving your fellow citizens is reward enough for the virtuous, while self-aggrandizing brown-nosers will always crave validation and acknowledgement.</p>
<p><font color="red">[Editor --- You know, the only people I ever hear say this or actually believe this are twits who have never actually served. The reason your dad and your brothers don't talk to you about it is because you just wouldn't get it. Combat veterans do talk about war. Quite a bit actually. They just prefer to do so with other combat vets. And a real veteran would never disparage another vet who chose to talk about or be proud of his service. Each veteran has earned that right.</p>
<p>Besides if Veterans won't talk about combat, who will tell the tales of truth? The media? You? Our liberal teachers and academics?</p>
<p>Some of the proudest and bravest veterans I know are none to shy about talking about their service. Nearly every WWII veteran I know wears a hat proclaiming what unit or ship they served on. All of the Vietnam bikers I ride with have their unit patches and service ribbons all over their vests.</p>
<p>Oh, and if your father was an E-7 he would have been a SFC, not a Staff Sergeant (E-6). But I couldn't really expect a puke like you to actually know that.]</font></p>
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		<title>By: BBB</title>
		<link>http://urbangrounds.com/2008/06/john-avarosis-pos/#comment-137597</link>
		<dc:creator>BBB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 20:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; I’m curious if this is how you would actually engage an ideological opponent in person should the occasion ever present itself to you.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Pat, it is quiet obvious to anyone reading this blog that &lt;strong&gt;you&lt;/strong&gt; are incapable of engaging anyone in an ideological argument period! Your childish arguments and name calling are getting old!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> I’m curious if this is how you would actually engage an ideological opponent in person should the occasion ever present itself to you.</p></blockquote>
<p>Pat, it is quiet obvious to anyone reading this blog that <strong>you</strong> are incapable of engaging anyone in an ideological argument period! Your childish arguments and name calling are getting old!</p>
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