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UPDATE (August 21) — From a press conference w/ San Marcos Mayor Susan Narvaiz, the mayor noted that that a second police officer tried to resuscitate the dog by giving it CPR.

Good for him and he should be as commended as Officer Stephens should be condemned.

Also, the comments section has a lot of generalized police bashing. I won’t tolerate it, as I am exceptionally supportive of our men in blue. Officer Stephens actions and poor judgment are an exception and not a rule.

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I’m usually a big fan and supporter of Police Officers. I believe the majority of them to be exceptionally honest and decent people doing very difficult, dangerous, and important work.

But there are a few out there — as there are in any profession — that give the rest of them a bad name.

Like San Marcos (TX) Police Officer Paul Stephens, who pulled over Michael Gonzalez just after Midnight on August 5th for speeding:

A Texas State University student who waited to get a speeding ticket while his girlfriend’s dog died in her arms has filed a formal complaint with the San Marcos police over the Aug. 5 incident.

Krystal Hernandez was holding her ailing teacup poodle, Missy, while her boyfriend, Michael Gonzalez, raced south on Interstate 35 — allegedly hitting 95 mph — toward a 24-hour veterinary clinic in New Braunfels.

After their car was pulled over sometime after midnight, the couple said they were kept waiting for 20 minutes by Officer Paul Stephens before he issued the ticket, despite their desperate pleas.

Police Chief Howard Williams said an internal investigation was begun after Gonzalez complained.

This was not our finest hour,” Williams said. “It was not handled right by our officer, but whether there was a violation of our policy that is subject to punishment, I don’t know.”

That’s a gross understatement.

But it gets worse:

“Instead of helping us, he asked Michael what he was on,” Hernandez said.

She said they begged to be allowed to take the dog to the clinic, also asking that they be allowed to turn themselves in to be ticketed or arrested or for Stephens to detain Gonzalez there while she drove the dog to New Braunfels.

Instead, she claims, Stephens responded, “Chill out, it’s just a dog, you can buy another one.

Instead of hurrying to issue the ticket, Gonzalez said, Stephens chatted with two other officers on the scene. When he finally allowed them to leave 20 minutes later, the dog was dead, Gonzalez said.

What Officer Stephens should have done is offer to escort them to the emergency vet hospital. That is the the “serve” part of to “protect and serve” oath. Instead this asshole chose to stand by callously and watch their dog die. And then mock them for it.

Would Officer Stephens have acted the same way if it was somebody’s child dying in their arms? Sadly, we don’t know the answer to that question…but I don’t think it’s worth trying to find out.

Officer Stephens has already demonstrated his inability to show compassion or common sense in this case, so I’m not especially confident that he would do so in other situations that called for either.

He should be fired. He won’t be. But he should be.

91 Responses to “Asshole of the Day: San Marcos Police Officer Paul Stephens”

I won’t go so far as saying he should be fired. One, I don’t thing it warrants it. You don’t know his work history, which may demonstrate that he has performed his job duties competently until now. Not every act of misconduct deserves firing. Two, people are not born with perfect judgment. Few people are born with good judgment. It needs to be learned. In hindsight, I have seen so many bonehead mistakes, including a few committed by me, I have lost count. Three, not sure what actually killed the dog and if the delay was the cause of the dogs death. The description of what happened to the dog, requiring it to be taken to the vet, doesn’t make sense. If and when did the dog stop breathing? If the airway was completely blocked, I would think it would have died sooner. If the dog still had an open airway but its heart stopped beating, did they try cpr? I’m not sure why pet owners and parents don’t know cpr. Four, if it were me and it was an emergency, I would have kept driving, but at a safe speed, until I got to the vet clinic. Or, when stopped, got out of the car, and told the gf to drive off with the dog.

I would have kept driving. But hindsight is always 20•20.

The police officer may be an ass, but it is very, very stupid to be going 95 mph at anytime, but especially after midnight.

It’s hard to maintain perspective when a pet is involved, but endangering human life to save Fifi deserves a ticket.

There are procedures that police have to follow when issuing a ticket, and that takes some time, including wait time for plate information. The perspective of the speeders is pretty skewed- in my mind, it is a dog, you can get another one, but car and people wrecks are less easily remedied.

All we have is their word that the officer mocked them. And I don’t think becoming an escort service for ailing pets falls under the category “protect and serve.”

The police chief admitted that the officer did not handle the situation correctly and that the officer had been counseled by his supervisors, so there is more than just the word by the pet owners that the officer behaved inappropriately.

Barbara — I get your point. But it seems that the officer almost went out of his way to cause further delay.

I think this just shows exceptionally poor judgment, common sense, and compassion. Traits that are extremely important in law enforcement.

As for 95 mph? It is a high speed, and they did deserve to be stopped and ticketed. But that could have been done in a way to also try to save the dogs life.

Additionally…traffic on I-35 routinely moves at ~80 mph during the day between Austin and San Antonio. With almost no other traffic on the road on a Tuesday night, 95 mph is not as dangerous as people are making it out to be.

Firing might be too severe of a reaction on my part — but this guy needs a little remedial compassion and common sense training.

Robbie,

I think the key here is the driver (and probably his girlfriend) was a Texas State University student.

If this had been a middle-aged couple with a child holding the dog or even a senior couple driving a Cadillac, you can bet the outcome would have been different.

Is there a double standard in law enforcement when it comes to age, you bet!

Given the circumstances, he could have easily chosen to help the couple get to the hospital and still have credit for a ticket towards his quota that doesnt exist.

I think most of us would agree that pets are really family members. You dont just go buy another one.

Try kicking a K-9 police dog and see how quickly you get stuffed behind bars for assualting a police officer…

At night, with emotions high in the car, 95 mph is way too high. At that speed, a stray box in the road become a lethal hazard. Hit the brakes, car swerves, you over-correct, and boom! you’re kissing the concrete.

As for “college students”: look at the stats. The number of fatalities between the hours of midnight and 4:00a.m. for people under 25 is much higher than any other age group. Young people are much more likely to die in accidents at this time because they are driving under circumstances that are not optimal for attention and reaction time (and not just because there are more of them driving than any other age group.)

Since I am a middle-aged person who has driven two dying pets to the vet, and I have kids (16 & 18) who are driving, and my husband was a first responder for 7 years, and I’m closely related to 3 former policemen, I will wager that the dog was left alone while the owner partied, she came back to find the animal in distress, maybe it got into something she left out, and a bunch of this sturm und drang is her guilt talking.

Which isn’t to say that the policeman wasn’t also an ass.

I’m not going to get into all the what ifs, and coulda/shoulda/wouldas.
I’ve been a policeman. I knew guys like this.
He’s and asshole of the highest order.
If I were his supervisor, he would be on permanent desk duty.

I will wager that the dog was left alone while the owner partied, she came back to find the animal in distress, maybe it got into something she left out, and a bunch of this sturm und drang is her guilt talking.

I take that wager!

Read the link before you post!

Speaking of being an ass…

I will wager that the dog was left alone while the owner partied, she came back to find the animal in distress, maybe it got into something she left out, and a bunch of this sturm und drang is her guilt talking?

1. Read the link
2. Quit being judgemental about a situation you know nothing about and can’t be bothered to read up on.
3. Stop the narrow-mind, judgement sterotyping. Their age had nothing to do with this.

1. I believe she read the link, but didn’t take the statements of the boyfriend at face value. Neither do I.

2. Everyone here is being judgmental about the situation including you.

3. Age always matters because age generally means experience.

He’s a total asshole and should be fired. He should not be allowed to carry a gun and obviously gets off on suffering. I’m sure this wasn’t his first incident. Karmas a bitch !

First of all, the cop was a jerk. It was because of his “it’s just a dog” comment that he’s been counseled and gets to go back to school to learn how to play nice with the public.

That being said… have you seen the video of the stop? The guy (not the cop) was beyond agitated (which is understandable, under the circumstances). The police chief said that the cop was correct in not letting them rush off because the driver was a hazard to everyone on the road. I don’t necessarily agree that “it’s just a dog,” but is the dog’s life more important than the lives of the other people driving on I-35?

I’ve driven a dying pet to an emergency clinic… and I’ve rushed to meet an ambulance at a sick person’s home. In both cases, I set my cruise control. It’s just safer that way.

The Officer should have said “You’re in distress, please put your hazard lights on and follow me to the clinic” That would have protected the other drivers on I-35 and given the dog a fighting chance. Officer Stephens is a piece of shit, plain and simple. He gives good cops a bad name and he needs to be handed his walking papers.

Something happens in the brain when you get involved in a high speed chase. The rush of the chase, possible fear of the unknown and the speed it takes to catch up with the vehicle seems to cause poor judgement in many officers.

Many dash cameras and reality TV shows catch officers at their worst due to this rush of excitement.

Poor judgement by both parties. However, you do not fire the officer you send him back through “field training” with seasoned officers.

I am sorry for the loss of the dog.

I do not recall the Texas Traffic Code having a section that allows citizens to speed when taking animals to the vet.

If you think there should be such a law contact your representative.

Based on his driving and behavior, I would expect an officer to run the driver for warrants and prior criminal record before allowing him to drive away. And again, I’m not convinced the delay caused the dog’s death because I’m not convinced that the dog wasn’t already dead before the car was stopped.

I was in law enforcement, the officer was correct to stop the vehicle and consider the situation, he willfully chose to be a an asshole and continue on his power trip. He also chose to continue a conversation with another officer while he made these people wait. Maybe he was having a bad night, maybe he was fighting with his girlfriend, either way there were several other alternatives, he chose the most painful one. Something was missed on his phsyc eval, good cops search for the middle of the road, this guy doesn’t know where that is. He should have escorted them, had his fellow officer drive them, or driven them himself. Officers these days believe that there stats are all that matter, yes this student was driving 95 mph, no question that
that is incorrect but this officer is far more dangerous considering the way he acted.

Ok, the officer should have been a bit more sensitive, but if the owner of this dog killed a family of four because he was trying to save his dog…..who’s the real ASSHOLE? The officer was in full protocol in administering the ticket and if the driver would have showed a bit more control it wouldn’t have escalated. It is rediculous that the couple wants this officer fired for doing his job. Put on your “Big Girl Panties” cause the driver could have went to jail. I support the officer cause it wasn’t me that could have died for the “so-called” heroic act of the owner!

This just proves one more time the mentality of most people now . Ignorant ,rude and all about #1. I think the asshole cop should be FIRED!! I have alot of freinds who are cops and I spoke to them and every one of them thinks he is a disgusting excuse for a human being.

I imagin one day a similar event will happen to him and then maybe he can see what a real peice of trash he is….Serve and protect ….my ass! Yea right!

I agree with Have Some Sense. How would you feel if the driver took out a family of four going to their vacation trying to make up time on the interstate? You would say “where are the police?” The police get screwed either way. You rarely hear when the police do good things, like save our asses…we just say “They’re doing their job” or “why are you hassling me?”

Another thing that needs to be thrown out there….the bias media. The media puts things out there that sell. If the whole incident was out there, this would not be in the paper. Remember, things get edited and spun. We are in the Austin area right? This is a smear campaign at its finest. The public doesn’t know about a fraction of a percent of what happens out there at night and what the police put up with on an hourly basis. “Just a dog” makes the front page, not the traffic stop that turns into foot pursuit that turns into an officer getting hurt trying to stop someone that just stabbed their wife. “just doing their job!”

Obviously, the paper that produced the article made its ratings and the rest jumped on board to get their stats up. Lets face it…this crap sells. This will all blow over in a week or two because some other topic will pick up the slack.

Have we forgotten we are at war in the middle east. You remember, the men and women serving their country so we can have our opinions, like leaving anonymous rants and raves on sites such as these.

Could it have been handled differently, of course. What would you do, really? Do you have what it takes? Its easier said than done.

Reality Check,
I repeat what I posted above, I was a policeman.
His actions after making the traffic stop, were those of a bona fide, certified anal sphincter.
Serve and protect means just that, not observe my power trip, and don’t dare ask me to hurry up with writing a ticket, because I will prove how all powerful I am, by making you wait.
Both the couple in the car and the policeman coulda/shoulda/woulda handled this differently, but once the stop was made, and he had the relevant info, there was no need to behave the way he did, other than to assert his control.
Most policeman, and I would say the vast majority, would have taken a different approach. This is only one of the ways we discover which officers are unfit to serve.
Other times, it is human life involved.

Another thing, I drive I-35 all the time and I go 80mph just to keep up with the ones that pass me like I am going backwards. 95mph on I-35…I-10 or Hwy 290 is nothing. I have a high respect for most cops as I said I have alot of freinds who are cops. They hang out at my business when on duty 3 of them have keys to my business. We also sociallize when off duty. But once again, I don’t care if this guy is a cop or not. He wanted to show he was going to be a total jerk and he apparently has no respect for other people or animalsl! This guy has NO BUSINESS BEING A COP!!!!!! For that matter he has no business being in any public matter with his attitude. I imagin he was a bully in school.

Since the relevant information was a negative hit on wants and warrants, how do any of you know when he had that information? How do any of you that the vehicle stop caused the dog to die? How long do you think a dog can go without air? If what the couple said was true, that the dog choked and then went unconscious, the dog was dead long before they were pulled over for speeding. While the dog was coughing, his airway was only partially blocked. When they tried to dislodge what ever they thought the dog was choking on, that is when the dog went unconscious. That’s what happens when you don’t know what you are doing and don’t care enough to look it up before an emergency happens. So, what did the officer do wrong again? Make an insensitive remark after they killed their dog ? For some reason people expect the officer to care more about the pet than the owners did and now they want to crucify him over it.

I know officer stephens and he is not that bad a guy. From all the grief he is experiencing, I sure he wished he had handled it different. If you see the tape you will see that the guy was out of control, which doesn’t speak well of younger people. All those that said they were former officers who are criticizing, thank god you now are you not one now, becaue we don’t need your Barny Fife ass out there.

KMB Talking about Barney Fife, I am suprised your buddy Stephens didn’t pull his gun or taiser out on the guy and talking about out of control Stephens was the one who should have been in more control of himself and he was the one out of control. No matter how you look at it, he is supposed to be the one “trained” to handle the situation and imo he isn’t trained to work with the public at all. If it would have been me he pulled over He would have been standing there writing himself a ticket because I have NO RESPECT for a LOSER like him and I would have been long gone to the vet with the dog.
Yea, I am sure he is sorry now, I bet all his co workers are giving him hell about being such a dumb ass…it’s a little too late.

Hey , calm down he is just another LOSER …he can buy himself another job

There is proof that the officer mocked and said “what are you on, sir?” We call it a camera. They mount them on dashes.

They were on the phone with the vet at the time that this was going on. I’m sorry, but a vet can hear an animal over a phone. So the dog was not probably dead.

Was his speed excessive and dangerous? ABSOLUTELY. Upon hearing that there was a situation that required attention though, the officer should have at least tried to help. Futhermore, on that dashmount, we can see that after the pullover, there weren’t any vehicles on the road. Truck drivers are very well prepared for such a case of super fast driving vehicles. They know what to do to keep out of a crash. If it were just pedestrian cars, this guy would have been in a much much worse situation.

The whole “doesn’t speak well about younger people” response by KBM is a horrible stereotypical attitude that many police have. It is one thing to say that a young man driving an lowered olds in the hood might be a little more “fresh” than the normal person. But a person who drives an SUV and pronounce their words well? Who wasn’t using slurred speech? Who said that there was an emergency situation off the bat? KBM, if you are an officer, I challenge you to tell me how this situation warrants this officer’s (and I use that term loosely) actions.

As someone well pointed out above, if this were a police dog, you’d see this officer driving that fast to the vet with no repercussion. Just because this was a younger couple, the officer acted with excess distain.

While I don’t agree that this guy should be fired, he definitely needs to go to officer school again to be taught how to play nice with people. He should also have his rank stripped, and put on suspension without pay for a month. If that causes him undue burden, then he “should calm down” “it’s just a” month. He should also be successively sued for all damages. And should not be supported by his department. If all of that happened, justice would be served.

They were on the phone with the vet at the time that this was going on. I’m sorry, but a vet can hear an animal over a phone. So the dog was not probably dead.

Really? Did they put Fifi on the telephone and she told the vet what was ailing her? If the vet could hear the dog, the airway wasn’t blocked. If the dog was choking and subsequently died, the airway was blocked. Neither animals nor humans can go without air for more than a few minutes. So, yes, the dog was dead.

I challenge you to tell me how this situation warrants this officer’s (and I use that term loosely) actions.

The situation warranted the officer holding them until he ran the plates and driver’s license for warrants.

As for what I have read it was a very bad situattion that a cop made worse. Had it been a child in the lap of the passenger how would he have reacted? I can assure you those kids felt the same way someone would feel if they were loseing a child and on the way to the hospital.(it goes back to the young inexpierenced thing) Overly emotional,yes .Over the speed limit,Im sure…….about to file a lawsuit probably. I hope they win.

Unless you live in Texas, you will never realize how cold, ruthless, and unsympathetic the Texas police can truly act. They are a breed all to themselves. A pre-requisite to become a Texas law officer is that he/she must not have a heart or common sense. I have lived throughout the U.S. and have never witnessed such bad behavior from law officers until I moved here. So, to hear that a Texas officer, who’s number one job is to serve and protect, only thinks about the almighty dollar, instead of the tragedy that has fallen before him does not surprise me. Think about this; what if this dog owner was in labor or hurt in some fashion? Gotta get that ticket issued. They need that money like I need a hole in my head. Get past the speeding issue. What constitutes an emergency these days? Too many of you are taking the rules issue too far. Rules can be broken. What if this was your best friend dieing? I have gone through the same scenario with my dog. If a cop would have tried to pull me over, it would have been after I made it to the pet emergency facility. But then again, you don’t mess with Texas. Shooting is the name of the game here.

The cop was a JERK! I am so sorry for the owners of the dog! Dogs become family to us…you can’t just get another one!!!! ASS! He should be punished for being a jerk!!!!!!!

Wow, what happened to police discretion!? He could have resolved this in so many different ways… still giving the driver the fine he deserved but ultimately saving the dog’s life. I hope this officer understands now (with the publicity he’s getting) that it’s not just a dog, and you don’t just buy another one.

If you think the bastard should be summarily fired, please sign the petition:

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/petition/248002209

Thanks!

It’s a shame that he has a badge. Who is he to say that its ” just a dog”. If we let police officer justify what’s important and who is important, what’s next. Telling me I don’t need assistance because Im just a ” female” if you can’t show courtsey to an animal something who can’t defend himself what will he show for us. San Marcos Resident.

I hope the driver files suit and I hope the policeman loses his job.The way he handled the incident is only a preview of whats to come Please don”t give the he is a rookie line because its just wasted sentiment.The entire incident is just another pathetic example that proves that police departments need huge insurance policys to cover incidents like that.

I think mr. stephans needs to be sent to a place where he can
find someone else to threaten and bully that is tougher than a
3 lb. poodle! How about trying out some russians, PUSSY!

If I were to give you my real feelings….. I think the man should be taken out and shot behind a shed. Hey relax, we can train more officers. I know the completely freaked out crazy feeling when a dog is in danger or dying, and I know how it feels to have your dog die in your arms. It is utterly devastating.

I wonder if he would have escorted a dying child’s family car, or a woman in labor to a hospital?

I have contacted animal law editor at Animal Legal and Historical Center if he violated any animal protection laws. He should be prosecuted for this failure to allow reasonable veterinary care.

There’s also a petition at http://www.BoycottSanMarcos.com telling the city council and mayor that you won’t support the city or patronize it as a tourist unless they fire the douchebag. After all, who’d want to visit a city where this guy’s a cop? As the professional, he should’ve responded to the situation rationally and driven the dog to the vet–then you can ticket the owner and explain how stupid he was for not just calling the cops for an escort in the first place.

lake, they didn’t “miss something on his psych eval”. They probably recruit for anal retentive asshole sociopaths like Officer Paul Stephens. If making a good judgement while stressed eludes someone, then maybe they shouldn’t be a cop. The other cops could have intervened as well, but they all stood around while Officer Paul Stephens remarked on the fact that “he says his dog is dying” - like its a big joke - like its just another excuse for speeding this jaded douchbag is having to hear.

In Germany, 95 mph is a reasonable speed for sections of the autobahn under certain conditions. I don’t think “speeding” is a good enough reason to allow a police officer to punish someone by letting their pet die and then mocking them. No wonder American police have such a bad reputation.

He should be FIRED and NO rehire ANYWHERE. This kind of pseudoperson would let a child die while on his POWER trip. He needs serious treatment. imo.

My concern is with the people who don’t see the officer’s behavior was not optimal. I find it interesting when the supporters of the dog go out of the way to say “Yes give him a ticket, but do it at the VET office.” but the Officer supporters say “You want to let him off scott free?!?!?! What if he crashe dinto a family minii-van……” Well first off no, he should have gotten a mother of all tickets, the kid was reckless, but I can empathize with why he sped. Supporters of the family and dog can play the “What If?” card as well, what if the Cop took them to the vet? The aniumal might still be alive (PLEASE NOTE I SAID MIGHT!!!!!!) But that didn’t happen, and the kid didn’t plow into the Brady Bunch in the station wagon and kill everyone.

Last time I checked to serve and protect meant just that. By pulling over the kid, Mr. Stephens was protecting. However after that point he failed in serving and protecting. He didn’t protect the dog, he didn’t protect the bf and gf from the dog’s death, he didn’t serve their best interests. Also where does it say “To serve and protect only humans”? Sorry but this man belongs behind a desk, and not in the public. If he can’t empathize with this situation, I’m scared how he’d handle anything else.

Please “Google” petitions to fire san marcos officer stephens” …the whole world is helplessly outraged & there is power in numbers.

Although Police Officers are human, Officer Stephen’s was obligated by oath to intervene in an appropriate manner. We all hope that Stephens took this oath seriously at induction to the San Marcos police force. The last thing this San Marcos needs is more bad police publicity. If you are not satisfied with the action taken in this case you should write Chief Williams and create a precedent for further action against Stephen’s. We are not helpless is our fight to recieve compassionate service from office sworn to apply it in all instances of duty to the public. Surprizingly Chief Williams has responded to many letters from concerned pet lovers and animals welfare agencies who have expressed outrage. We, however, need to force a new policy not only in San Marcos but nationwide as to the concern of pet guardians and animal aid groups who many times rush their beloved companions to Vet centers to save their lives.
I would also like to add that many police stations have canine units. These dogs are given full police powers and if injured or killed in the line of duty the offending party has to answer charges related to these canines. To attack a K9 officers is comprehesable to attacking a police officer.

You people are stupid it was on camera and you HEAR EXACTLY what that stupid asshole says, “its just a dog, you can get another one”. People who defend this dumbass obviously don’t know the kind of relationship is built with an animal. It digusts me. Paul Steven’s your gonna get what comes to you VERY soon. And that is why I absolutely disgusts Cops.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39sctITKM9g

watch it.

There are many ways to express your anger at what has happened to these two pet parents who were so errantly treated by officer Stephens. However ranting on blogs about your disgust does very little to solve the problem. Threats too do little except to cause the public distress. If you are truely disgusted write letters, start a petition, find a movement to chage what has happened. This is still America where the public, when stirred into action, can change the injustices placed upon them by law officers or any public official.

To attack a K9 officers is comprehesable to attacking a police officer.

Uh, no. Under the law, animals are chattel, i.e., property. Not only are they property, as property they depreciate in value.

There are many ways to express your anger at what has happened to these two pet parents who were so errantly treated by officer Stephens.

Pet parents? Seek psych help.

You people are stupid it was on camera and you HEAR EXACTLY what that stupid asshole says, “its just a dog, you can get another one”.

Well, it was a dog and they can get a new one. But, to claim that the officer in some how was responsible for the dog’s death is b.s. I’m still waiting for one of you great thinkers to state how long a dog can go with out oxygen.

I find it interesting that the people who side with the cop and are talking condescendingly to others on here all sign their posts “Anonymous”. It says a lot about the type of people who have this mentality and side with the “good” officer.

I’d love to know how many people on this message board have never driven fast. Now what was the reason? Late for a date? Pissed off about the day’s events? Ever driven while talking on a cell phone? Home from the bar? All of these far less understandable reasons for speeding or driving dangerously, yet excuses people take for granted.

This was nothing but a power trip, plain and simple.

What kind of person tells someone that it’s just a dog, you can get another one. People can have more then one child or mary again. Would he tell someone whose child or spouse died, relax you can have another child or get another husband.

Hopefully counseling will teach him that like humans, animals can’t be replaced because it’s a life, not a toy or a old pair of shoes.

“Would Officer Stephens have acted the same way if it was somebody’s child dying in their arms? Sadly, we don’t know the answer to that question…but I don’t think it’s worth trying to find out.”

Well… if one watches the video one will see that the officer does go on to say that he would be understanding if they had a human being in the car that was dying. Seriously… watch it and listen carefully. It’s toward the end I believe.

I find it interesting that the people who side with the cop and are talking condescendingly to others on here all sign their posts “Anonymous”.

Luckily, all the kooks sign their names so tabs can be kept on them.

People can have more then one child or mary again. Would he tell someone whose child or spouse died, relax you can have another child or get another husband.

What kind of person equates an animal to a spouse of a child? Again, animals are considered property — not human beings. Why isn’t a dead dong replaceable? Maybe the dogs owners need counseling on proper first aid for their pets with additional counseling on how to take responsibility for their own mistakes?

Luckily, all the kooks sign their names so tabs can be kept on them.

Would rather be a “kook” who can show compassion towards another living thing, than a spineless coward looking down on everyone from a high horse. Are you a friend of officer Stephens? You sound like a self-centered, self-righteous, emotionless, condescending coward, I wouldn’t be surprised if you were officer Stephens himself.

And just because your ID comes up as “Anonymous” doesn’t mean you can’t be traced. So it just pretty much shows you are too much of a spineless coward to be accountable for your smug words.

What I would like to know is, lets say if it was a police working dog that was injured, would the San Marcos Police Dept. followed the posted speed limits?Would they have taken the attitude that its just a dog they can get another? I am sure it would have been diffrent cause I have seen police drive recklessly trying to bring their injured animals to seek care.

So what would happen if the officer let them go, only to get into an accident killing everyone involved?

Would rather be a “kook”

Don’t worry. You got your wish. You are a kook.

And just because your ID comes up as “Anonymous” doesn’t mean you can’t be traced.

Oh, no!!! The kook is threatening to trace me! Again, seek psych help.

After reading the statement by the mayor, the driver is lucky he didnt’ get shot by the officers. Also, the first thing the driver said after being stopped was that the dog was dead. A second officer arrives and tries cpr - something the owners couldn’t be bothered with. The second officers opinion was that the dog was dead. So, let’s knock off the bullshit about the officer caused the death of the dog. If you just have to blame someone, blame the damn owners, or pet parents as you kooks like to call them.

So what would happen if the officer let them go, only to get into an accident killing everyone involved?

The officer should have escorted the couple to the emergency vet clinic and issued the speeding citation there after the dog was admitted.

But what do you expect. Officer Stephens is a rookie cop. A kid basically. He didn’t know any better.

Oh, no!!! The kook is threatening to trace me! Again, seek psych help.

Would tell you to seek pysch help, but you’d have to have something resembling human emotions first. Sociopaths usually don’t respond to anything that requires compassion, so any sort of “help” would be a waste of time in your case. God help your spouse and children, pretty sure we may be reading about what you’ve done to them one day.

“. Also, the first thing the driver said after being stopped was that the dog was dead.”

NO, the first thing he said was that the dog was DYING. Not DEAD, there is a difference. Watch the video.

And regardless of whether the dog was dead or not, you’d think Officer Stephens would know how to talk to someone like a human being instead of like a jerk. This was a scared college kid, not some hardened criminal out to commit a crime. Ever watch those police chase tv shows? I’ve seen cops with far more reason to be assholes to drivers who were more calm and level headed than this Stephens guy. So what if next time his “rookie mistake” is shooting a guy reaching for his wallet? You don’t mistakenly act like an asshole to a distraught person, we were just seeing the officer’s true colors.

Would tell you to seek pysch help, but you’d have to have something resembling human emotions first. Sociopaths usually don’t respond to anything that requires compassion, so any sort of “help” would be a waste of time in your case. God help your spouse and children, pretty sure we may be reading about what you’ve done to them one day.

Sociopaths can’t tell the difference between a dead dog and a human being. You and your ilk can’t tell the difference between a dead dog and a human being. Seek psychological help before we read about you being arrested for criminal threats made against a police officer.

NO, the first thing he said was that the dog was DYING. Not DEAD, there is a difference. Watch the video.

I did. You must have magic hearing that allows you to hear what no one else does. You can’t initially hear what he says. When he runs back, he says she’s dying, she’s dead she’s dead.

And regardless of whether the dog was dead or not, you’d think Officer Stephens would know how to talk to someone like a human being instead of like a jerk.

After spreading all these lies that the officer killed the dog don’t you dare try to dismiss the importance that the dog was already dead. The driver was acting like a nut. The officer was trying to calm him down and a less well train officer would have pulled their gun on him and cuffed him. You people are the jerks. Spreading lies. Demanding people be fired. Making death threats. Growup and get a fkn grip.

Anonymous, you are a true sociopath. Sociopaths, such as yourself, are good with manipulating a situation so they are seemingly justified with being cold-hearted or appearing smugly superior to everyone else. The only emotion you seem capable of expressing is anger and the only way you seem to be able to relate to others is through being arrogant. Textbook sociopath behavior.

Stop trying to make Officer Stephens look like less of a jerk than he is. No sad little insult you can hurl at “kooks” is going to make up for the fact that this man had the opportunity to be human, to try to understand a situation and relate to someone in emotional distress, but instead chose to be an inhuman, uncaring, unfeeling jerk and abuse the power he has been trusted. Or maybe he didn’t choose to be that way, that is simply who he is. Why is it Officer Stephens was not the one to try to revive the dog? How is it another officer was in touch with his humanity and attempted resuscitate the dog while all Officer Stephens could do was hurl insults? After he assessed the situation and saw that the man was not a threat to him, why didn’t he offer any kind words? “You can get another dog!” Yeah, that is a real human thing to say to someone who is witnessing a living thing they care about suffer and die.

People like you are frightening. To see someone who is distraught over the loss of a living thing that they have grown to care about and to so easily disregauard their feelings………well someone who has practically no human emotions or the ability to feel sympath or compassion couldn’t possible understand. The way people like you are able to blend in, it is unnerving.

Once again, grow up, None. Stop trying to project your mental instability, as evidenced by your inability to tell the difference between a human being and a corpse of an animal, on to others. I’m not the one lashing out and demanding people get fired for bullshit. I’m not the one telling lies about this officer. Not everyone is going to react to life the way you, in your immature way, think they should. I see you going through life demanding everyone who you disagree with get fired until someone has had enough and shit cans you.

Why the fuck didn’t the people in the car try to resuscitate their own dog? Police officers are not taught nor are they expected to perform cpr on animals. Do you just go through life blaming everybody else for everything? And here’s a clue for you: You can’t use cpr to resuscitate a dead dog.

all Officer Stephens could do was hurl insults?

Another lie by a pack of liars.

When someone (or something) is dying your adrenaline starts going and all you can think is “I’ve got to do something. ” The people begged the officer for help! I have rushed my dog to the vet in the middle of the night before and while I wasn’t going 90 I was going pretty fast. The job of the officer is to access the situation, see this is an emergency, and be smart enough to realize sometimes in an emergency people will drive faster than they should. A DECENT person’s reaction would have been, “Ok, let me take the dog in my car.” They could have taken the guy with them and given him a ticket too but at least they would have given the dog a chance. And everyone goes 80 on the highway anyway so the guy actually wasn’t going that fast. Police are supposed to help people in distress, not cause them more problems.

To the sociopath Anonymous poster. The more you talk, the more it is obvious you have nothing resembling a conscience or humanity. Your words mean absolutely nothing outside of interner catfighting. Thank God most people are not like your or officer stephens.

Btw Anonymous, I wasn’t calling for the officer to be fired or even suspended. You make assanine asumptions, I guess it just goes along with the territory for someone like you. It is good to know that most people aren’t like you, most people have a conscience and are able to feel sympathy or empathy for others in distress. Ironically, it is cold-blooded, emotionless, selfish people like YOU that is one of the main reasons why we need law enforcement in the fist place. It is just sad when a person like you or officer stephens is the person of authority. But as you can see, people who don’t identify with sociopaths aren’t going to let officer stephens abuse his power and taint the SMPD. Whine all you want, there is nothing you can do to stop people with compassion from voicing their opinions.

The recent news media blitz on the San Marcos Police Department following an interstate police pursuit and subsequent traffic stop brings to light the public’s ignorance to the perils of law enforcement combined with irresponsible news media reporting. The media was quick to jump on a single quote by Officer Stephen’s, out of context to the full situation, to stir raw emotions without reporting the full story of events which took place. The public was quick to play monday morning easy chair cop quarterback and condemn the officers, ignorant to the survival mindset of today’s well trained law enforcement, and the multiple threatening possibilities presented.

A vehicle traveling at 100+ mph down an interstate highway shortly after midnight is going to bring attention to itself no matter what city they are recklessly driving through. Phone calls were made to the 911 emergency operations center about the reckless vehicle, possible DWI suspect, with many unknowns involved. Officer Paul Stephens, along with other responsible San Marcos police officers, intercepted the erratic vehicle and began a 5 mile pursuit before the vehicle finally stopped near Centerpoint road. The vehicle crossed all three lanes of traffic multiple times, around 18 wheelers, drove on the shoulder of the road, and around construction signs before finally pulling over a second time. The end of the pursuit eliminated further danger the reckless driver was causing the citizens of San Marcos and those motorist passing through.

Officer Stephens is a combat veteran having served in Iraq and is well trained with the police department. He knows that the percentage of officers killed or injured greatly increases in the hours of darkness on the night shift (1), where most new officers start out. He also knows that vehicles, traffic stops, and pursuits contribute to a high number of line of duty assaults and deaths for officers. In the back of his mind he also knows that 140 peace officers were killed in the line of duty in 2007, and with over half of those that were killed feloniously, their deaths occurred in the southern states.(2)

Stephen’s approached the vehicle with the mindset of officer survival, with his hand on this gun ready for the many dangerous threats and possibilities. Is the driver armed? Is the driver fleeing a crime? Am I going to be shot? Why is the driver flailing his arms at me? What other threat am I missing? The driver’s first words spoken may not be completely audible in the digital video recording, but they are “SHE’S DEAD!! SHE’S DEAD!!”.

Now I ask you to put yourself in officer Stephen’s now perspiration soaked body armor. You have just been in a chase with an unknown suspect at 12:30AM at speeds up to 100 mph. You have seen combat in Iraq and know what the words “Dead” indicate. You don’t know if the suspect is armed or why they are fleeing the police, and you are trained to think and survive the worse case scenarios. What would “She’s DEAD!” mean to you? It means there is a dead body in the car.

Imagine the RELIEF Stephen’s felt when he realized he was not dealing with a dead human body, not a dead baby girl, but a dead dog. His comment of “It’s just a dog” may seem insensitive, and those words were better thought than spoken, but it was a comment of relief that all those other more dangerous and horrible possibilities were no longer relevant. As a combat and police veteran myself, the shouts of ”She’s Dead!” have a very literal human meaning and bring back some memories I would rather forget.

The media captivated and capitalized on those 4 words spoken by Stephen’s, took them out of context, and initially disregarded the second in car camera provided by Officer Joyce Bender of the passenger side of the stopped vehicle. Officer Bender immediately cradled the dog, attempted to clear the airway, and made the accurate determination the dog was in fact deceased. This action was taken within minutes of the second and final vehicle stop. The news media would have you believe that the pursuit and subsequent stop CAUSED the death of the animal. Fox news reported the death was “subsequent” to the police stop. This is simply not true.

As an animal lover myself with horses, dogs, goats, and some occasional barn cats, I sympathize with the Gonzalez family in the loss of their pet. My family also suffered the recent sudden loss of a pet. The clinic the Gonzalez’s were traveling to in New Braunfels was 15 miles away from where they finally pulled over. It would have been nothing short of miraculous for them to continue on with triple digit speeds and arrive safely at the clinic, especially with the emotional state of the driver, which Officer Stephen’s points out. It also would have been in vain.

It was responsible for the police department to pursue and stop the reckless driver. It was responsible for the police to investigate the circumstances surrounding the high speed pursuit. Back up officers acted responsibly in assessing the condition of the dog and did in fact determine the dog was already dead. With nothing more that could be done for the dog, it was responsible to issue a traffic citation although with the current media frenzy, I doubt any fines will be assessed. Officer’s Stephen’s remarks were better thought than said but brought to light his relief that the situation was not more serious.

In the end the news media got their headlines, the Gonzalez family is getting their attention, and the police are again unjustly portrayed as the bad guys. Oprah will play on the emotions of animal lovers, broadcast the officer’s comments out of context, and portray the police as the villains. Imagine what would have happened if the Gonzalez family was allowed to continue at speed, with or without escort, and had caused another tragedy possibly involving you or someone in your family.

Most progressive police departments such as the San Marcos police department have a “Citizen’s police academy” which I strongly recommend all San Marcos citizens attend. Before you jump to conclusions based on irresponsible, emotional, out of context reporting, attend the citizen’s police academy and learn the full pot-pourri of multitasking challenges and dangers modern day law enforcement officers face every day.

Dan Misiaszek

(1) - Law Enforcement Officers Killed and Assaulted (LEOKA) FBI annual publication
(2) - 2007 Uniform Crime Reporting Program’s annual report FBI UCR

They could have taken the guy with them and given him a ticket too but at least they would have given the dog a chance.

Putting aside the fact that the officer had a job to do and was performing it, what you and the other rocket scientists fail to understand or admit is that the dog was dead. Dogs can only go without air for so long. Maybe, if the owners had bothered to learn basic emergency aid for their dog, they would have been able to correctly dislodge the object blocking the dog’s airway and give it cpr when it still mattered. They didn’t. All of you are moaning and groaning about how much you love dogs yet there is no indication that any of you have bothered to learn the Heimlich maneuver/cpr for you pets, either. Your so called love of your pets is just a bunch of lip service. So, can the dumb posts about how I am heartless when I am the only one among you who has cared enough to learn how to properly care for my pets. You’re all a bunch of poseurs.

Once again, after all is said and done, where was the officer’s compassion? Even the police chief himself said Stepehns could have handled the situation better. Has officer Stephens even bothered to apologize to the couple? Probably not.

And nobody is believing for a second that the sociopath knows cpr for animals. Funny how all of a sudden you decide to mention you know how to do cpr on animals. Yeah right. Would you even be able to be compassionate enough to administer it? Or would you be in the mindset of “oh well, I can just get another pet.”

Btw, to the person who asked how would someone respond to someone saying their dog is dead, any person with compassion would not respond with “you can get another dog.”

Funny how all of a sudden you decide to mention you know how to do cpr on animals. Yeah right.

Jackass: Allow me to quote myself from the very first post in this thread: If the dog still had an open airway but its heart stopped beating, did they try cpr? I’m not sure why pet owners and parents don’t know cpr.

You’ve already demonstrated that you will lie about me, the officer, the facts, and really don’t give a shit about animals. Quit while you’re this far behind.

Would you even be able to be compassionate enough to administer it?

And you are sooooo compassionate it is beneath you and others to learn and use it. lol!

Just because you quote medical terminlogy doesn’t mean YOU know how to perform CPR. I can describe how to do a tracheotomy, doesn’t mean I can actually perform one. Just makes you look like you watch Grey’s Anatomy. Besides, a sociopath like you probably doesn’t have respect enough to do something to benefit another living thing unless you think you can some how benefit (recognition, profit). I seriously hope you don’t have pets. You probably keep them chained to the fence outside, even in winter, don’t you? you get very defensive about being called a sociopath (you really do come off as one). Usually people don’t get THAT defensive unless someone is getting at the truth.

After reading through all the whining on this site I’ve come to the conclusion that none of you know a damn about anything. You all seem to know all the facts, which you can’t because you weren’t there. Cameras don’t show all the evidence, just one angle of it.

What it all comes down to is this, unless you’ve been in the law enforcement arena you have no idea what types of things cops have to put up with and what they have to do. You just see cops on TV and hear that something happened to your best friend’s brother when he was busted 5 years ago the day after he stopped using drugs and you think that’s how it is - get the point?

I don’t believe those who posted here that they were once law enforcement officers actually were or they’d know what is being posted just isn’t the way things happen. It’s what people want to report happened but it isn’t what happened. What happened is a man and a woman placed the lives of ever person that they passed on the interstate at grave risk. What happened is they placed the life of an animal above that of a human.

Once you’ve stood in the arena of law enforcement and made your share of mistakes (because none of us are perfect), then you have a right to judge what happened. If you have never stood in this arena then you’ve never experienced the victories or the defeats. You simply don’t know.

You know, I really don’t mind a guy placing his life on the line for his dog if that is what he believes he should do. I do mind if that same person places the lives of everyone driving on the interstate on the line to save the dog.

None of this would have become a great issue if the officer would have arrested Gonzales for reckless endangerment. I’m merely guessing but I’d bet Officer Stephens made what appeared to be the best decision at the time by letting Gonzales go, rather than arresting him.

And for those that want to hurt the city by suing them, remember that we citizens pay the price to cover the cost the city incurs in a suit. It goes something like this. I want to sue the city, pay more taxes to cover the cost of the suit, make all citizens pay me (through the suit), so I can get a financial reward for trying to take a dog to the vet. Sounds a bit selfish to me.

None: Take your meds. You are sounding more delusional by the minute.

Jeff, I don’t care if you believe I was ever in law enforcement or not, and I really don’t care about what all the people have posted here on either side.
The fact is, there is no contextual confusion in what the officer said, that “you can get another one.” In the heat of the moment, he showed his true nature, a callous power-tripper. Cops like that are a danger to the public at large, and the fact that he is a FNG is no excuse, which is why he has been disciplined by his department, and the Mayor has made a public statement about this incident, while trying to beg off from the heat.
I knew cops like him, and they couldn’t be trusted in a tense situation, because they would escalate an incident, instead of calming it down.
The officer did his job correctly in making a traffic stop, but he failed in his job as a public servant when he demonstrated his disregard for the feelings of others in an emergency situation. I never once said what he should or should not have done, or what the passengers in the car should or should not have done, I only addressed his demeanor, and that I believe he is psychologically unsuited for his job. If he learns from his mistake, and changes his behavior, then he might become an excellent officer, but with his current mindset, he is a danger to the public and other officers.

I see you didn’t really deny anything that was said about you Anonymous. Slinging lame insults is really all you have left because you made your self look as cold-hearted and callous as officer Stephens. So wrack your brain for the most biting insult you can come up with, its almost a spectator sport watching you try to make some sort of impact.

I see you didn’t really deny anything that was said about you Anonymous

If I denied each and every stupid comment you made, None, I would have no life. Here’s a denial for you: You are wrong, as usual, about everything. Your comments reveal you to be a pathetic and immature person. Seek help.

Yeah, because saying “you’re wrong” automatically proves your point. You’ve argued tooth and nail about everything else, why not this? Looking over some of your more heartless comments in regard to this story, you pretty much made my point for me.

And the sheer irony of someone in a petty internet squable calling another “pathetic and immature”. Yeah, it takes a lot of maturity to call others “kooks” and to tell them to “take their meds”. SMH

You’ve argued tooth and nail about everything else, why not this?

Not tooth and nail. Nevertheless, I’m tired of repeating myself. Now, take your meds, you kook.

I notice on other threads you like to “argue” to the last word. That is probably what this is truly all about. Well, hope you are in it for the long haul.

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Kestenbaum is also the CEO of Fortis properties and the ODA a goverment funded organisation in the williamsburg section of Brooklyn NY The girl, now 17, claims Louis Kestenbaum invited her to his Florida mansion in 2005 to perform a massage for $300.

The lawsuit, filed in federal court, claims he demanded she remove her clothes, then sexually assaulted her.The girl, her father and stepmother are seeking more than $50 million.Joel kestenbaum the son of Louis kestenabum had no comments

You people are F@#$%ing ridiculous…ITS JUST A DOG….See if that F@#$%ing dog will protect you when someone is breaking into your house…Get a life…dont ruin another because of your one-track thinking…I agree with him infact be glad it wasnt me…cause I would have put a bullet in the little shits head.

Wow, I am sure the SMPD is glad to know they have the support of unbalanced, homocidal psychos.

Wow, I am sure the SMPD is glad to know they have the support of unbalanced, homocidal psychos.

That’s None going all moby.

Or Anonymous going schizo in addition to sociopath. I wouldn’t be surprised if you were also the psycho. As if there is any doubt.

That’s None projecting, again.

And that’s Anonymous, in denial about being a sociopath AND a psychopath. And posting on a Friday night? Wow, how sad.

This SOB exhibited classic behaviors of an abuser. If you don’t believe me, watch the tape - anyone educated in the field will tell you that this man has absolutely no business being in law enforcement. He abused his power and made a mockery of “Protect and Serve. At the very least he should be fired. At the most, well, he has received death threats - all I can say is that if I had to choose between saving my dog or saving Paul Asshole Stephens, I belive I would choose my dog!

Thank God, the officer carries a gun. Some of you are so threatening and over the top, I wouldn’t put it pass you to do something crazy.

You’re one to talk Anonymous. Of all the emotional people on the board, it’s only the one who seems to lack human emotion (that being you) who most likely could harm another with no conscience or remorse.

Officer Paul Stephens has a sever lack of moral chariter, almost on a clinical level. He should not have any authoratative positions.

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