I’m not in favor of special rights for gays. Or for anybody, for that matter.
But I am in unequivocally in favor of equal rights for them. Which is why this is good news:
California doctors can’t refuse treatment to gays on religious grounds, court rules
As a former Combat Medic in the US Army, I was trained that you treat the person and their injuries…not the uniform. In other words, during combat, you are supposed to triage and treat any and all combat wounded regardless of what uniform they are wearing.
Even if they are wearing the uniform of the enemy. Or no uniform at all.
U.S. Army PFC Stephen Tschiderer—a Combat Medic with the 256th Brigade Combat Team, 3rd Infantry Division knows the lesson well. He was shot in the chest (thank goodness for body armor) by a jihadi. Tschiderer then helped run down the enemy who had just shot him. And then treated the jihadi’s gunshot wounds.
So, it would never occur to me to not render aid and treatment to someone just because they are gay. In fact, any doctor who would do so should have their right to practice medicine revoked.
Since when is fertility treatment necessary to life? If a woman goes to a gyn who doesn’t do elective abortions, does she have a right to demand he perform an elective abortion on her or lose his license? There are plenty of doctors who will give her the services she demands. It is unnecessary for her to demand that this doctor treat her.
Oh, and the article states and the doctor’s defense was that the doctor did not want to artificially inseminate single women. It was the plaintiff that accused her of discrimination because she was a lesbian.
This is a difficult one.
We had something similar over here where a black nurse won her case which stated that as she was a devout christian (maybe even a catholic, I can’t remember) she refused to have to adhere to legislation that forced her to treat gay people. She claimed it was against her human rights.
She has a point.
But the argument here should be what is paramount? The saving of a life or the right to uphold religious views.
Personally, as I think religion is nothing more than a social creation to keep us all in check, the saving of life wins hands down.
Hopefully in twenty years time, this woman’s case will be laughed out of court.
Jonny
This wasn’t the saving of life. It was the artificial creation of life.
That’s California for you. She should have said “okay, do you have a referral for someone who does?”
Problem solved.
No, it’s just the continuing agitation for their agenda, irrespective of the rights or wishes of those who don’t agree with their lifestyle.
Notice, the homosexual community doesn’t tolerate their own deviating from their ideological purity.
Wow….
I’m still getting over US Army PFC Tschiderer’s story.
I know that is his training…..and thank God for body armor…..but I have to wonder how many would not, or could not, do that.
I missed that story when you brought it in the first time.
No2: Not all of us have agendas, nor do we support the in your face agendas that get pushed even down our throats. I think that most gay people would 1. Use a doctor friendly to gays. E.g. When I lived in Dallas, many of the publications in Oak Lawn identified them. I never sought one out for any reason – it wasn’t an issue for me. 2. Most of us have respect for other’s beliefs – we were raised that way.
It’s really a bummer that this is the type of crap that gives us all such a whiney reputation and that so many gays – especially in CA – seem to think they have to have more special rights than others – and they do think that.
Pam, and you are of the reasonable people I know are in the majority, but have the least voice. I’ve had a number of gay people tell me they oppose the approach the loudest voices have.
It’s those who are looking for incidents to create outrage, and promote their political agenda, that create so much animosity.
Like the lady photographer in Canada who declined a job to photograph a gay wedding, and got prosecuted for it. That doesn’t serve anyone’s interest.
I was involved early on in the “DGA,” Dallas Gay Alliance. We usually had only about $200 in the bank account. One of the things that was important then was the manner in which we presented ourselves. You dressed nicely (I was working in a corporate setting, so that wasn’t difficult) and you worked within the system. You didn’t push stuff in people’s faces. The Dallas group now – I don’t have any idea. It’s made up of a lot of professional people. I had a lot of good times back then, but voted Republican, too. Freaked a lot of my friends out until they became older and started voting “R” also. Funny how we all grew up.
We never suffered the discrimination in housing, at work, etc. That said, I hung with friends that were preppy (that was in, then – I miss khakis and polo shirts) and to whom education, success, parents and fitting in was important. I’ve never deceived anyone about who I am, but I wouldn’t stick it in anyone’s face, either. It’s just a non-issue. And when it comes down to it, most straight people could care less.
Same here, it’s a non-issue, until some decide to make it a bigger issue than it actually is.
I think that most who are involved in the most outrageous activities, be it street performance or politics, are still very insecure about who they are.
Most people just want to get along, be happy, and live a good life.
Ok, gay people pay taxes to government plus they pay more then normal family, so they total deserve to get treatment, if these doc gonna set these kind stupid rules, so as Gay combat medic, I should stop giving treatment to my straight Combat buddies…
As a doc or a medic, we must help every one that needed our service.. As were have sworn to help and cure for the community. Do these CA doc learn anything…
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[Editor --- Again, Frenchy...you might be a combat medic, but you're not one in the US Military as you claimed in another thread. Your Canadian IP address and abysmal use of the English language make that quite clear.]