goodbye 2 u.

Left by tamincali on September 17th, 2008 at 6:41 pm

goodbye 2 u.
way past due.

Left by tamincali on September 17th, 2008 at 6:45 pm

I can not for the life of me understand how anyone can be sexually aroused by someone else’s fear and pain. The next case, Watts, is just as disgusting.

Left by Anonymous on September 17th, 2008 at 7:08 pm

The b*stard is spamming from the grave …

[Editor --- And just like the state did to William Murray, I'll eventually kill off all the spam, too.]

Left by Anonymous on September 18th, 2008 at 9:35 am

There is another execution scheduled tonight. Some guy named Ries who murdered someone who tried to help him.

[Editor --- Joseph Ries' execution was moved to October 21. The judge who set the execution date moved it a few weeks ago.]

Left by Anonymous on September 18th, 2008 at 9:56 am

Not even going to start with the anti-death penalty speech.

This guy was scum. The lowest of the low - another product of drug abuse and low education.

I would have preferred however for him to be picking rocks out of the ground with his teeth for the past ten years.
Judging by those photographs he’s done nothing but get fat over on your taxes over the past ten years.

Jonny

Left by Jonny on September 18th, 2008 at 1:37 pm

The lot of you salivating over the execution of a drug fucked poorly educated dude, with your holier than thou presumption of the right to say he doesn’t deserve to live, aren’t much different to the guy who was executed.
You have no compassion and just like William Murray, think you have the right to determine who should live and die.
He did a bad bad thing, but you have no right to proclaim whether or not he has the right to live. That belongs to a higher authority.

Left by david g on September 19th, 2008 at 8:27 pm

And I think thuglovers like you who make excuses for rapists/murderers are no better than the rapist/murderers themselves.

Left by Anonymous on September 19th, 2008 at 8:36 pm

The lot of you salivating over the execution of a drug fucked poorly educated dude, with your holier than thou presumption of the right to say he doesn’t deserve to live, aren’t much different to the guy who was executed.
You have no compassion and just like William Murray, think you have the right to determine who should live and die.
He did a bad bad thing, but you have no right to proclaim whether or not he has the right to live. That belongs to a higher authority.

Hi David, nice to to see you here.
Talking from the standpoint of the “lefty-euroweenie” ( and much worse names that I have been called), may I say that I feel you’re talking absolute bollox?
Sorry, I know that may seem harsh but;

The lot of you salivating over the execution of a drug fucked poorly educated dude, with your holier than thou presumption of the right to say he doesn’t deserve to live, aren’t much different to the guy who was executed.

Would you mind pointing out which of us here have raped and killed a person over the age of 90? Or younger for that matter?

You have no compassion and just like William Murray, think you have the right to determine who should live and die.

I oppose the death penalty as I see it as a waste of tax payers money.
These guys should serve hard labour and if they are found innocent after a few years of appeals then fine - they may have a few bruises but they’re still alive.
To address the point you raise, you have to understand that if a crime has been committed of this statue in the state of Texas then the laws within Texas suggest the Death Penalty. That’s not up to the individual citizen whom resides there but the governing body.
You commit a crime in any state/country and you should be aware of the punishments.

He did a bad bad thing, but you have no right to proclaim whether or not he has the right to live. That belongs to a higher authority.

And by that you mean a “God”?
Wake up my friend. God is man made entity that dictates half wits to keep in line. Nothing more.

From one liberal, to a lefter than left liberal, get educated!

Jonny

Left by Jonny on September 19th, 2008 at 8:53 pm

The predictable vitriol from those unwilling even to leave a name on a web blog. Hey there anonymous, how you doing? Thanks for calling me a thug lover, pretty lame effort though if that’s the best you can come up with.
And Jonny, well where to start. First of all you can drop the condescending, “get educated” schtick. Talking down to someone is a sure fire way to have them ignore you. Maybe we can swap notes about our degrees.
No-one on here has raped and murdered a 90 year old woman, I’m not defending that for an instant. So to answer your question about who on here has done that, my assumption is no-one.
As for what I mean by a God, I never mentioned the word God. I pointed out that state sanctioned murder is little better than cold blooded murder of the kind practiced by Mr. Murray.
It’s just revenge. You can dress it up any which way you want, it’s still just revenge. Murray forfeited his right to freedom, no question, but that doesn’t make his murder ok.

And as for the death penalty being up to the Governing body, that’s just a cop -out. A convenient cloak for the blood-thirsty eye for and eye clique.
And Jonny, don”t pretend to be a liberal, it doesn’t become you. You oppose the death penalty because it’s a waste of money? No moral or ethical issues there eh?

Left by david g on September 21st, 2008 at 10:22 am

That’s not up to the individual citizen whom resides there but the governing body.

What about the jury that finally decides whether an offender is guilty or not?
In my opinion this is a way to make it up to the residing citizens - maybe not what Texan laws suggest as punishment for certain crimes, but at least whether these laws are made use of or not.
A part of the work of US anti death penalty groups focuses on the “ordinary citizen” and says, for an abolition of the death penalty in the long term it is essential that people get educated so that individually they won’t be willing to impose a death sentence on anybody - if ever called to do their duty in a jury.

Left by L. on September 21st, 2008 at 12:05 pm

Hey there anonymous, how you doing? Thanks for calling me a thug lover, pretty lame effort though if that’s the best you can come up with.

I’m doing great! Lame? Nah! Just calling it what it is, thuglover. Seriously, though, thuglover. It was you who started the name calling so don’t whine when you get the same.

No-one on here has raped and murdered a 90 year old woman …. So to answer your question about who on here has done that, my assumption is no-one.

Yet, you said: The lot of you….aren’t much different to the guy who was executed. So, stuff it, thuglover.

I pointed out that state sanctioned murder is little better than cold blooded murder of the kind practiced by Mr. Murray.

Well, thank God execution is not murder. You don’t get to make up your own definitions to words.

It’s just revenge. You can dress it up any which way you want, it’s still just revenge.

It’s justice calling it murder is just thuglover semantics.

Left by Anonymous on September 21st, 2008 at 1:56 pm

A part of the work of US anti death penalty groups focuses on the “ordinary citizen” and says, for an abolition of the death penalty in the long term it is essential that people get educated so that individually they won’t be willing to impose a death sentence on anybody - if ever called to do their duty in a jury.

If the anti-death penalty groups wanted to educate people about the death penalty, they wouldn’t systematically lie about the facts, laws, and procedures of capital cases. But, they do.

Left by Anonymous on September 21st, 2008 at 1:58 pm

You oppose the death penalty because it’s a waste of money? No moral or ethical issues there eh?

I oppose the death penalty for deeper issue than that David.
However, you’re post suggests you are lefter than left which doesn’t help progress any modern liberalist ideas. The right are notorious for going to the extreme when faced with any kind of liberal idea let alone the remarks you make that hint at law abiding citizens being as bad as heartless criminals.
The wish to preserve the death penalty is an opinion that people are more than entitled to. To simply comment that those who support it are as bad as a rapist of 93 year olds is a pill to big to swallow.

You won’t get me disagreeing with any of your points in terms of what we consider to be right or wrong, I just feel the way out left do more harm than good in terms where reasonable ways forward are sort.

No offense meant David but I’m afraid your comments in your first post where a little too simplistic for my liking.

Jonny

Left by Jonny on September 21st, 2008 at 3:31 pm

Anonymous wrote,
“I’m doing great! Lame? Nah! Just calling it what it is, thuglover. Seriously, though, thuglover. It was you who started the name calling so don’t whine when you get the same.”

Go back and read my first post. No name calling in it at all. I’ve seen the schoolyard bully approach time and again on web blogs. You start the name calling and slagging off and when you’re called on it, you point the finger right back. Read my first post and show me where the name calling is.

Anonymous wrote ,”Yet you said: The lot of you….aren’t much different to the guy who was executed. So, stuff it, thuglover.”

Fair call. I was a bit too literal. Nice of you to re-inforce the thuglover epithet. My point was that the salivating and pleasure being expressed about the guy’s execution has the reek of pleasure in killing another human being, which is the same as Murray’s crime.

Anonymous wrote, “Well, thank God execution is not murder. You don’t get to make up your own definitions to words.”

Yes it is.

Left by david g on September 21st, 2008 at 8:20 pm

Jonny wrote,
“I oppose the death penalty for deeper issue than that David.
However, you’re post suggests you are lefter than left which doesn’t help progress any modern liberalist ideas.”

Why bother with the Left-ometer? How about we just debate the issue without putting people in boxes so we can decide whether or not they’re friend or foe. If someone murdered my grandmother I can’t say how I”d feel about it. But from where I stand now, I don’t like anyone taking pleasure in the death of anyone else, even if they can stand behind state statutes and their holier than thou law-abiding-ness.

Jonny wrote,
“The wish to preserve the death penalty is an opinion that people are more than entitled to. To simply comment that those who support it are as bad as a rapist of 93 year olds is a pill to big to swallow.”

Agree with you. My implication was that there’s a a degree of pleasure expressed by the pro-death penalty lobby in the killing of another human being. My implication was not that law abiding non-killers are the same as guys like Murray.
The pleasure that people take in his death is in my view, not much different to the pleasure or whatever he felt when he murdered his victim.

Left by david g on September 21st, 2008 at 8:42 pm

Thuglover:

No name calling in it at all.

Name calling and insults, thuglover:

Salivating
holier than thou
aren’t much different [than Murray]
no compassion [just like Murray]

Than you do it again: My point was that the salivating and pleasure being expressed about the guy’s execution has the reek of pleasure in killing another human being, which is the same as Murray’s crime.

Yes it is.

No, it isn’t . Once again, you don’t get to make up your own legal definitions.

Left by Anonymous on September 21st, 2008 at 10:24 pm

An execution is murder?
It’s inevitable that we get one of these goof-balls at least once a week, espousing that tired deceit.

Left by No2Liberals on September 21st, 2008 at 10:34 pm

“Salivating
holier than thou
aren’t much different [than Murray]
no compassion [just like Murray]“\

People are salivating over the executions, so are you. It’s ugly but true. And how exactly is cheering the execution of one person different to the murder of another?
Nope you’ve got no compassion, not judging by your posts.

Yes I do get to make up my own definitions. We all do. A sizeable chunk of the population think executions are good, a sizeable chunk think they’re not. We all have our subjective opinion. That’s why laws change. Just because it’s law now doesn’t mean it always will be.

Left by david g on September 22nd, 2008 at 5:13 am

“It’s inevitable that we get one of these goof-balls at least once a week, espousing that tired deceit.”

Yeh yeh, Goofball, thuglover, whatever.
Do you actually have anything to contribute to the debate or are you just comfortable slagging off and leaving it at that?

Left by david g on September 22nd, 2008 at 5:15 am

Do you actually have anything to contribute to the debate

What part of “not this shit again” don’t you understand?
BTDT, many times with others like you, so no I don’t have anything to contribute, not any further than I already have for the past year.
And neither do you.
All murder is killing, not all killing is murder.

Left by No2Liberals on September 22nd, 2008 at 5:30 am

Hi David,
Don’t worry about the name calling. “They say tomAto, we say tomato, they say Thuglover, we say Redneck-patriotic-single-celled-amoeba, let’s call the whole thing off!”

It’s water off a ducks back to me. Even when they get really personal.

Anyway, point at hand, they do themselves no favours by resorting to playground name calling. You see, this is a blog about a conservative Texan living in a ‘liberal’ Texas. Robbie himself has very strong views, totally opposing mine (and yours for that matter), however (and I hope he doesn’t mind me talking for him) it is obvious that Robbie encourages topical debate from all sides of the spectrum.

It is a great shame that there are a couple of inbreds here who don’t understand that people are allowed an alternative view.

You don’t support the death penalty? Then you’re a ‘thuglover’.

See, even the redest of rednecks would read that back to themselves and amit it’s a little extreme.

Topical debate is a good thing David - don’t let the minority of conservative-redneck-namecallers put you off.

Jonny

P.S. And apologies for telling you to get educated - I thought you where talking about ‘God’. That subject always gets my goat.

Left by Jonny on September 22nd, 2008 at 7:16 am

Thuglover: The only thing that is true is that you are a liar.

If you believe that wanting the laws enforced demonstrates a lack of compassion, so be it. It’s not like anyone takes you seriously anyway. And, no, we don’t get to make up our own definitions. Execution is not murder.

It is you who has no compassion for the innocent people harmed by the murderers you love. It is you who has no compassion for the 93 year old lady terrorized, raped, and murdered. It is you who has no compassion for the people who may have been harmed by your thuglover in the future: other prisoners, correctional guards, escapes and the murder of citizens, the ordering of murders outside the prison.

I never post on antideath penalty forums. However, thuglovers like you, routinely come here and cheer for the murderer. You lie about their guilt. You taunt the family members of the victims. So, please don’t lecture anyone on compassion, hypocrite.

Left by Anonymous on September 22nd, 2008 at 8:54 am

It is a great shame that there are a couple of inbreds here who don’t understand that people are allowed an alternative view.

But, they don’t get to lie, buttboy. Too bad you’re too inbred to figure that out. And remember, you’re not kept around for you “altermative view” (lol), you’re merely the blogs pinata.

Left by Anonymous on September 22nd, 2008 at 8:57 am

Not sure how you get to call anyone a liar Anon.
You did it to me a while ago and I asked you to point out where I have ever lied (apart from exagerating my height a tad).

You are fully entitled to your view that killing criminals is the best way forward. In the same breath, others are entitled to a view that it’s wrong. They’re not liars for that.

And remember, you’re not kept around for you “altermative view” (lol), you’re merely the blogs pinata.

Well, you may get off on beating the hypothetical shit out of someone, that’s your perogative. You’re a sad child for doing so, but hey, we can’t all have adult conversations.

Jonny

Left by Jonny on September 22nd, 2008 at 9:12 am

You have continuously lied, misrepresented facts, and thrown full fledged tantrums when confronted. I direct you to almost every thread you posted in.

In the same breath, others are entitled to a view that it’s wrong. They’re not liars for that.

Can you read, buttboy? How many times have I said, including in this thread, no one has the right to misrepresent the facts, laws, and the procedural histories of these cases? Lying and misrepresenting is wrong. Views based on lies and misrepresentations are wrong.
This is the tactic those who oppose the death penalty use all the fkn time.

Well, you may get off on beating the hypothetical shit out of someone, that’s your perogative. You’re a sad child for doing so, but hey, we can’t all have adult conversations.

The one who consistently can’t deal with facts, is the “sad child,” buttboy — and that would be you.

Left by Anonymous on September 22nd, 2008 at 12:27 pm

You have continuously lied, misrepresented facts, and thrown full fledged tantrums when confronted. I direct you to almost every thread you posted in.

Show me.

How many times have I said, including in this thread, no one has the right to misrepresent the facts, laws, and the procedural histories of these cases?

You say that but then you can’t point our where any lies have taken place. I can’t see anywhere that David G has lied or misrepresented in his posts. Maybe I don’t agree with him suggesting someone who supports the death penalty is as bad as a rapist of 93 year olds, but hey, he’s as entitled to his opinion that you or I are.

You need to learn some restraint redneck.

Jonny

Left by Jonny on September 22nd, 2008 at 12:47 pm

If you want to talk about liars or people who misrepresent facts:

“But, they don’t get to lie, buttboy”

I like ladies butts but I’m 33. Not a boy.

“Thuglover: The only thing that is true is that you are a liar.”

Saying David is a ‘ThugLover” because he disagrees with the Death Penalty is like saying you have a red neck because you agree with it……. so yes, you have a point on this one.

“It is you who has no compassion for the innocent people harmed by the murderers you love”

David never mentioned the victims in his post. Unsure how you arrive at the ‘fact’ that he has no compassion for them. Nor did I read any divulgence of love for the criminal on David’s behalf.

“You taunt the family members of the victims.”

Again, unsure about where you read anything like David ‘taunting’ the victims. Maybe you simply can’t read and you’re guessing what the words mean?

See how easy it is to point things out redneck?
Your problem is, you spout this crap that everyone is lying (if the don’t agree with you) then fail to back up any of your outcries.

Jonny

Left by Jonny on September 22nd, 2008 at 1:11 pm

You need to learn some restraint redneck.

And you need to get a clue, buttboy. Selling t-shirts on street corners obviously is not the most intellectually stimulating profession. And it is clear, as you have demonstrated, it doesn’t require reading skills beyond 3rd grade.

Left by Anonymous on September 22nd, 2008 at 6:18 pm

Selling t-shirts on street corners obviously is not the most intellectually stimulating profession

Yet another unfounded, untrue and purely fictional comment.
You have ago at others lying and your the worst culprit.

Hypocritical-redneckism.

Jonny

Left by Jonny on September 23rd, 2008 at 8:24 am

The real problem with DP is that people are not equal facing it. A guy from a good background and with a bit of money and education will never sit in death row. Just have a look at the biography of some of the murderers sitting in dr in Huntsville. It’s true one can hardly feel compassion for people who committed such acts as Murray did, but I feel uneasy thinking this penalty only exists for a certain part of the population…

Left by Margaux on September 23rd, 2008 at 9:05 am

To be fair Margaux, I would suggest the majority of people commiting crimes ‘worthuy’ of Death Row are poor labourers, and therefore the vast majority actually on Death Row is a fair representation of this.

Jonny

Left by Jonny on September 23rd, 2008 at 9:15 am

David, David, David………

You are so correct (unusual for a liberal).
It IS REVENGE!!! WHAT’S YOUR POINT?
Come over here and poke me in the eye on purpose to be mean, and I will kick your ass, for revenge, on purpose, and I will enjoy every minute of it. I am not going to hug and thank you for poking me in the eye on purpose.
He killed a 93 year old woman. Like John Wayne said……
“Some people just need killing”.

Don’t like the death penalty? Go live in California or Swedan or ANYPLACE but TEXAS. WE LIKE THE DEATH PENALTY HERE.
You’ll fit in quite nice in California. Might I suggest San Francisco?

Left by Steve B on October 23rd, 2008 at 10:26 am