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In the most callous but honest of terms, the current economic crisis is the fault of:

  • The people — mostly poor and mostly minority — who purchased homes that they could not afford with loans that the government forced the mortgage lenders to give them.
  • And then those bad credit risk borrowers — wow who could have seen this coming — didn’t make the payments that they promised to make and in many cases, simply walked away from the mortgages that they never had a real stake in to begin with.

That’s it in a nutshell. And it’s the most politically incorrect thing to suggest, but I just did. The irresponsible people who took out loans that they couldn’t or wouldn’t pay back are the most responsible for this crisis.

This story from the New York Post spells it out a little more substantially. And it goes into detail about how it was corrupt groups like ACORN (and other “community organizers”) that used thug tactics to “to extract hundreds of millions of dollars in loans and contributions from America’s financial institutions.”

Government trying to controlfree markest with regulations (not the lack of regulations, which some people think the market needs more of). The goverment — especially democrats — forced the mortgage industry to give out mortgages to people who were not good credit risks. Mostly poor and minority borrowers.

I am opposed to this bailout. But my sympathies lie more with mortgage banks who were forced into bad business practices by our government than they do with borrowers who were knowingly bought homes they couldn’t afford because they thought they were owed something.

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From the article:

CRA [Community Reinvestment Act of 1977] was meant to encourage banks to make loans to high-risk borrowers, often minorities living in unstable neighborhoods. That has provided an opening to radical groups like ACORN (the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now) to abuse the law by forcing banks to make hundreds of millions of dollars in “subprime” loans to often uncreditworthy poor and minority customers.

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Fannie and Freddie acted in response to Clinton administration pressure to boost homeownership rates among minorities and the poor. However compassionate the motive, the result of this systematic disregard for normal credit standards has been financial disaster.

ONE key pioneer of ACORN’s subprime-loan shakedown racket was Madeline Talbott - an activist with extensive ties to Barack Obama. She was also in on the ground floor of the disastrous turn in Fannie Mae’s mortgage policies.

What we needed was less regulation of the free markets. Not more. Which is what we’re going to get now. The very people who caused this meltdown — Congress — are the ones who now want us to trust them to fix. And how are they going to do it? With my tax dollars and with an even bigger government power grab.

What could possibly go wrong?

IN short, to understand the roots of the subprime-mort gage crisis, look to ACORN’s Madeline Talbott. And to see how Talbott was able to work her mischief, look to Barack Obama.

Then you’ll truly know what community organizers do.

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Betsy reminds us that the Republicans are not without culpability in this, too:

Of course, the Republicans have also pushed for extending home ownership and, until this crisis, President Bush was proud of the many people who were buying homes under his watch. But it is time to acknowledge that not every family can afford to buy a home and we do them or our economy no favor by pushing banks to loan them money to get them into their own homes if they can’t afford the payments.

10 Responses to “Who is Responsible for the Mortgage Crisis Today?”

On this we agree. People need to take responsibility for their own actions. You enter into a financial contract, you’d better make sure you can keep up the payments.
Those who blame the government or mortgage lenders are the same people that look to them as a means of welfare handouts.
I personally do not know one person that is suffering from this mortgage crisis. Why? Because the people I associate with are educated enough to take responsibility for their decisions.

I am opposed to this bailout. But my sympathies lie more with mortgage banks who were forced into bad business practices by our government than they do with borrowers who were knowingly bought homes they couldn’t afford because they thought they were owed something.

In the same breath, I have no sympathy for mortgage lenders and I don’t feel the government ‘forced’ any practices on these companies. If anything, the government simply allowed a ridiculous business model to shape within these fat, greedy banks.
You should read about Adam Applegate and the nationalisation of Northern Rock. Your sympathy for these rogue traders will soon dry up.

Jonny

My sister has her degree in finance. Years ago she worked in a small bank in Wisconsin. She was required to attend a 2-day seminar by Fannie/Freddie where they said in no uncertain terms that they would punish any bank (including publishing in the papers) that refused to lend to red line areas. They pushed easy financing on these banks and told them they’d be auditing them on a yearly basis to make certain the banks followed through. My sis said it was nothing less than strong arm tactics.

My sis left the banking industry shortly thereafter.

Jonny, perhaps you should educate yourself.

http://johnrlott.tripod.com/Liebowitz_Housing.pdf

We would not have been in the position we are in if it were not for the Community Reinvestment Act. And just who do you think signed that bill and who put it on steroids? Hint: it wasn’t Republicans.

Greedy bankers? You mean like those that were forced by law (yes, by law) to give loans to people who never had any hope of paying them off? You mean like those banks that were required to lower the standard lending practices that allowed people, including illegal immigrants, to buy a $450,000 home on a $70,000 annual income? You mean like how banks and lending agencies were required to accept the fianancial statements from groups like ACORN and LaRaza?

If all you are going to do is provide left wing talking points (greedy banks, greedy Wall Street) and don’t bother to educate yourself on the root cause of this crisis, then be prepared to be judged as an idiot.

Oh God, I agree with jonny on something. Probably get hit with lightning in the next few minutes.
Every time a house sells, there is a bunch of fees for both the buyer and seller to pay. The get rich quick scammers in the financial business saw those fees and never raised a fuss that they were forced into anything. Think of the billions and billions they have already walked away with. If you have ever sold a house, you know those fees very well.
It is kinda like pedophiles are attracted to schoolyards, bankers are attracted to home loans. anyway, sorry jonjon.
Sorry to you too, 05, I am not a conspiracy type but the banking industry spends a gazillion on lobbyists and they have hardly made a peep about being forced to do anything….now it is us consumers that don’t have dedicated lobbyists who will pay.

Diane, my oldest brother got out of banking, just before the S&L/housing plunge in 1987, the one that caused Black Monday on Wall Street, and required the Resolution Trust Corporation to be formed by the feds, to resolve the mess. With the collapse of the deal in the House today, due to Nancy Piglosi’s incompetent leadership, and her inability to control her own caucus, we may well be heading for reinstitution of the RTC. I would favor that over a blank check bail-out.
Robbie, all of the points you made in your post are valid, but there is the short, ugly man behind the curtain, that few are talking about.
Derivatives, or Credit Default Swaps.

The crisis occurred (to greatly oversimplify) because the financial system allowed entities to place bets on whether or not those mortgages would ever be paid. You didn’t have to own a mortgage to make the bets. These bets, called Credit Default Swaps, are complex. But in a nutshell, they allow someone to profit immensely - staggeringly - if large numbers of subprime mortgages are not paid off and go into default.

The profit can be wildly out of proportion to the real amount of defaults, because speculators can push down the price of instruments tied to the subprime mortgages far beyond what the real rates of loss have been. As I said, the profits here can be beyond imagining. (In fact, they can be so large that one might well wonder if the whole subprime fiasco was not set up just to allow speculators to profit wildly on its collapse…)

As for the damage done by groups like ACORN, it all goes back to the radical anti-American mind set that B-HO has had blood transfusions from.
It’s called the Cloward-Piven Strategy. You have got to read this entire link.

The strategy of forcing political change through orchestrated crisis. The “Cloward-Piven Strategy” seeks to hasten the fall of capitalism by overloading the government bureaucracy with a flood of impossible demands, thus pushing society into crisis and economic collapse.

While some may think that some of the fees and profits lenders make are immoral, I’m certain that CDS’s are, and they should be made illegal.

If all you are going to do is provide left wing talking points (greedy banks, greedy Wall Street) and don’t bother to educate yourself on the root cause of this crisis, then be prepared to be judged as an idiot.

Sorry Retire05, but I didn’t see anyone frogmarching Joe public up to these banks to get these mortgages.
I’m talking from the other side of the pool here, and it is a FACT that the business models of many independent banks sucked, due to an over zealous attitude of “let’s get as much money as we can and f*ck the consequences”. We had a good few years of economic growth over here an what ’should’ have happened is the independents should have balanced their assets with their expenditure. Instead, they went out on a limb in the hope for even more profit. Our government did nothing to stop it, but I wouldn’t go as far as to say it was actively encouraged.
125% mortgages! Pah, get real!

All that said, the real problem lies with the individual who took these mortgages in the first place. If you haven’t got the intelligence to do a quick personal budget based on a worse case scenario to include a couple of percentage point increases in interest rates, and if you truly think living on the breadline is a good idea, they you deserve all you get. It is ridiculous to turn around at the last minute and blame the banks/governments.
Would you blame somebody for your third degree burns if they handed you a red hot poker, or would you blame yourself for being an idiot in taking it in the first place?

With the situation we find ourselves in today, I may be contradicting myself by saying I actually agree with the $700 billion bailout, but without it, things are only going to get worse.
Hell, both republicans and democrats put enough clauses into the bill to make sure the tax payer wouldn’t be out of pocket in the long run so why the hell did the Bushes own party reject it?

One thing’s for sure. With the majority of Republicans dismissing the bill and the majority of Democrats supporting it, Obama will be sitting in the White house in a few weeks time.

Jonny

Greedy bankers? You mean like those that were forced by law (yes, by law) to give loans to people who never had any hope of paying them off?

But that’s not the case over here Retire05, and I doubt very much if it’s as black and white as your implying.
If you firmly believe that Banks did not see an opportunity to make MORE money in the last few years due to a strong economic upturn, then your blind.
If you haven’t already, have a read of Adam Applegarth and the Northern Rock crisis. He is the epitome of all things wrong when dealing with public money.

Jonny

Oh God, I agree with jonny on something. Probably get hit with lightning in the next few minutes.

Feels good doesn’t it? ;-)

Jonny

A look into Barack Obama’s past might shed some light
Barack Obama joined Trinity United Church of Christ more than 20 years ago and considered the church pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright as his mentor. Rev. Wright married Obama and his wife Michelle, baptized their two daughters and is credited by Obama for the title of his book, “The Audacity of Hope.” In his sermons, Rev. Wright repeated denunciations of the U.S and blurted out statements like “The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three-strike law and then wants us to sing “God Bless America.” No, no, no, God damn America, that’s in the Bible for killing innocent people,” he said in a 2003 sermon. “God damn America for treating our citizens as less than human. God damn America for as long as she acts like she is God and she is supreme.”
Looking at Obama’s ties to Rev. Wright, and his connections to a terrorist bomber, William Ayers, both men who would like nothing more than to destroy this country causes many people to second guess Obama’s intentions for change. If you have not heard about William Ayers, you can read about him in the U.S. News, Michael Barone’s column-Obama Needs to Explain His Ties to William Ayers. “In my U.S. News column, I make a brief reference to the unrepentant Weather Underground terrorist bomber William Ayers and his connections to Barack Obama. They were closer than Obama implied when George Stephanopoulos asked him about Ayers in the April 16 debate—the last debate Obama allowed during the primary season. To get an idea of how close they were, check out Tom Maguire’s Just One Minute blog and Steve Diamond’s Global Labor and Politics. The Obama-Ayers relationship is also mentioned in David Freddoso’s The Case Against Barack Obama: The Unlikely Rise and Unexamined Agenda of the Media’s Favorite Candidate.”

Lets examine Obama’s connection with an accused political fixer Antoin “Tony” Rezko. The following is on explanation by Brian Ross and Rhonda Schwartz from ABC News. “In sharp contrast to his tough talk about ethics reform in government, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., approached a well-known Illinois political fixer under active federal investigation, Antoin “Tony” Rezko, for “advice” as he sought to find a way to buy a house shortly after being elected to the United States Senate. Rezko had been widely reported to be under investigation by the U.S. attorney and the FBI at the time Obama contacted him and has since been indicted on corruption charges by a federal grand jury in a case that prosecutors say involves bribes, kickbacks and “efforts to illegally obtain millions of dollars.”
Because Barack Obama was a dependable ally of subsidized developers in the Legislature, his friend and fund-raiser Rezko depended on him to get things done such as cosponsoring a bill in 2001 allowing developers to pocket half of the proceeds from selling state tax credits to others. Obama admitted that his decision to involve Rezko was “a bone-headed mistake.” What he failed to mention is that he has a closet full of bone-headed mistakes such as Peter Wallsten pointed out in the Los Angeles Times on
January 24, 2008.
“Barack Obama angered fellow Democrats in the Illinois Senate when he voted to strip millions of dollars from a child welfare office on Chicago’s West Side. But Obama had a ready explanation: He goofed.

“I was not aware that I had voted no,” he said that day in June 2002, asking that the record be changed to reflect that he “intended to vote yes.”
That was not the only misfire for the former civil rights attorney first elected to the state Senate in 1996. During his eight years in state office, Obama cast more than 4,000 votes. Of those, according to transcripts of the proceedings in Springfield, he hit the wrong button at least six times.”

Now comes the big question, what exactly does a community organizer do?
One thing Barack Obama did as a community organizer was pressure banks to make bad loans. In Barack Obama’s youthful community organizing days he joined a group called ACORN. Using the Community Reinvestment Act which was designed to encourage banks to make loans to high-risk borrowers, ACORN started abusing the law by forcing banks to make hundreds of millions of dollars in ’subprime’ loans to minorities with bad or no credit. Using charges of racism and threats to use CRA to block business expansions have enabled ACORN to extract hundreds of millions of dollars in loans and contributions from America’s financial institutions.
Other things that ACORN did as community organizers were agitate for higher minimum wages, attempt to thwart school reform, try to unionize welfare recipients who are obliged to work in exchange for benefits and organize voter registration drives. In 2006 for example, their voter registration drive in Washington produced 1,800 new voters of which 1,794 names submitted were fake. The secretary of state called it the “worst case of election fraud in our state’s history.”
If you like to know more, watch these two videos.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRmB93McZeI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs

Cybercorrespondent
http://cybercorrespondent.blogspot.com

Thursday morning I turned on the news and heard that ACORN is under investigation for voter fraud in a number of states. Since I learned not to trust what the media tells us, I decided to have a look what the bloggers had to say. On a sight called A Look Into Barack Obama’s Past - Obamamania - Zimbio website I found the following comment that made me think.
A concerned citizen
Oct-6-08 7:48pm [Edit]
Those two videos paint a very clear picture. As the terrorists have promised, they will destroy this country from with in. …..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puN9X1mVgRA ……..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjvBEKrGkDI …….

Back to my point. By allowing the voter fraud to go on, makes this great country look like a third world dictatorship. We are supposed to send an example to the rest of the world how honest elections are held and not allow the media to distort the facts. Please people, wake up and tell the media no more. Boycott all the products advertised on publications like the Newsweek, Time magazine and other propaganda machines like the New York Times. Also do the same with CNN and other communist propaganda news sources. Even the Fox News network is starting to sway the viewer decision. After Thursday’s presidential debate, watching Chris Wallace interview a communist from Saint Louis made me sick. Even bad journalists should realize that when you ask a communist or a skin head to give you their views, you can pretty much expect what they are going to say.
I certainly had enough of all of the $%#@Comunism.org
Cybercorrespondent

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