Comments on: Obama to Rescind Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell? http://urbangrounds.com/2009/01/gays-in-the-military/ Off-the-cuff commentary on the day's events Sun, 21 Mar 2010 00:28:50 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Anonymous http://urbangrounds.com/2009/01/gays-in-the-military/#comment-159747 Anonymous Sun, 07 Feb 2010 05:16:15 +0000 http://urbangrounds.com/?p=3970#comment-159747 They've shorten it to Don't Ask; Don't Tell. But the actual policy had a longer catch line. I just tried to look it up and found Don't Ask; Don't Tell; Don't Pursue; Don't Harass. But I swear they changed it from Don't Flaunt; Don't Recruit. It sort of pisses me off that they rewrote history. They’ve shorten it to Don’t Ask; Don’t Tell. But the actual policy had a longer catch line. I just tried to look it up and found Don’t Ask; Don’t Tell; Don’t Pursue; Don’t Harass. But I swear they changed it from Don’t Flaunt; Don’t Recruit. It sort of pisses me off that they rewrote history.

]]> By: No2Liberals http://urbangrounds.com/2009/01/gays-in-the-military/#comment-159745 No2Liberals Sat, 06 Feb 2010 23:09:09 +0000 http://urbangrounds.com/?p=3970#comment-159745 Then there is the sad tale of <a href="http://hamptonroads.com/2009/10/military-men-are-silent-victims-sexual-assault" rel="nofollow">Pfc. Cody Openshaw.</a> Then there is the sad tale of Pfc. Cody Openshaw.

]]> By: Anonymous http://urbangrounds.com/2009/01/gays-in-the-military/#comment-159744 Anonymous Sat, 06 Feb 2010 21:49:16 +0000 http://urbangrounds.com/?p=3970#comment-159744 make that raising healthy and happy children... make that raising healthy and happy children…

]]> By: Anonymous http://urbangrounds.com/2009/01/gays-in-the-military/#comment-159743 Anonymous Sat, 06 Feb 2010 21:48:26 +0000 http://urbangrounds.com/?p=3970#comment-159743 I have the right to marry someone of the opposite sex. You have that exact same right. What is my business is promoting the healthy happy raising of children which is best accomplished by a man and a woman married to each other. I have the right to marry someone of the opposite sex. You have that exact same right.

What is my business is promoting the healthy happy raising of children which is best accomplished by a man and a woman married to each other.

]]> By: lancer0917 http://urbangrounds.com/2009/01/gays-in-the-military/#comment-159742 lancer0917 Sat, 06 Feb 2010 20:33:19 +0000 http://urbangrounds.com/?p=3970#comment-159742 i don't really care what you and your wife/mistress/concubine do on your own, but when i'm denied the exact same rights as you.....how is that fair and equal treatment? maybe letting the queers in would show that everyone is basically the same. i want to be loved; i'm sure you do too. is it any of your business how that happens to me? i don't care how you found love. grow up, if you can't get out of my bedroom, i'd suggest a hobby i don’t really care what you and your wife/mistress/concubine do on your own, but when i’m denied the exact same rights as you…..how is that fair and equal treatment? maybe letting the queers in would show that everyone is basically the same. i want to be loved; i’m sure you do too. is it any of your business how that happens to me? i don’t care how you found love. grow up, if you can’t get out of my bedroom, i’d suggest a hobby

]]> By: Lights http://urbangrounds.com/2009/01/gays-in-the-military/#comment-149516 Lights Mon, 16 Mar 2009 11:10:15 +0000 http://urbangrounds.com/?p=3970#comment-149516 Hi, I am service member of the states, I sworn my life to protect my county. I am a Combat Medic, i caring for those who need my assistance in the battlefield, so does it make any deference between any other Combat Medic, that serve along side with me, just because I sleep with man, I need to hide most of secret away from other! Sometimes, I think the Don't ask Don't tell policy, is just another, stupid thing that weaken our soldiers moral and all so and insult. So in order to support the troops, this policy has to go! And last not all Queers are sissy Fags! As some of you guys think they are! Here's my mail Chisholm_GloryLights@hotmail.com I will reply your mails soon as possible! Thanks you, please support our Troops! <font color="red">[Editor --- I'm calling bullshit. You are NOT a member of the US Military. First of all, your IP address resolves to Canada. Second, your command of the English language is somewhere between that of a retarded 5th grader and a Frenchman.]</font> Hi, I am service member of the states, I sworn my life to protect my county. I am a Combat Medic, i caring for those who need my assistance in the battlefield, so does it make any deference between any other Combat Medic, that serve along side with me, just because I sleep with man, I need to hide most of secret away from other!

Sometimes, I think the Don’t ask Don’t tell policy, is just another, stupid thing that weaken our soldiers moral and all so and insult. So in order to support the troops, this policy has to go!

And last not all Queers are sissy Fags! As some of you guys think they are!

Here’s my mail Chisholm_GloryLights@hotmail.com
I will reply your mails soon as possible!
Thanks you, please support our Troops!

[Editor --- I'm calling bullshit. You are NOT a member of the US Military. First of all, your IP address resolves to Canada. Second, your command of the English language is somewhere between that of a retarded 5th grader and a Frenchman.]

]]> By: No2Liberals http://urbangrounds.com/2009/01/gays-in-the-military/#comment-146658 No2Liberals Tue, 20 Jan 2009 23:56:48 +0000 http://urbangrounds.com/?p=3970#comment-146658 Interesting concept, Liz. The rights of the few, over the rights of the many. :???: Interesting concept, Liz.
The rights of the few, over the rights of the many. :???:

]]> By: Liz http://urbangrounds.com/2009/01/gays-in-the-military/#comment-146654 Liz Tue, 20 Jan 2009 23:15:27 +0000 http://urbangrounds.com/?p=3970#comment-146654 It really should be a matter of fairness to our military personnel. And I don't mean being fair to people who are bigoted I mean being fair to gay people already serving. Those people who are risking their lives for their country are not allowed to "Tell" if they are being discriminated against because they are gay, in the military. If they are worried about their gay identity, they are not allowed to Tell a military counselor or chaplain. If they are worried about their same-sex partner they cannot talk about it to their CO. They cannot get any aid for their family, no health benefits for their partner, no PX bens, no death benefits if they are killed. They are not allowed to get Civil Unions or get married in states that allow it (CT and MASS) so they cannot protect their families in the same way. They pay more taxes and are treated as second class citizens. But they do the same job and they do it well. The main risk is that because they cannot "tell" and are not allowed to act on their sexuality by even posting on a gay web site they are at risk for blackmail, which creates a security risk by the very policy. Before the integration of the military in 1948 most white soldiers didn't want to serve with Black soldiers. Well, that was wrong, and so is Don't Ask Don't Tell. Just end it and get back to work. Fearing gay people is not the problem of gay people, it's the problem of those with the irrational fear. Get over it and be a soldier. It really should be a matter of fairness to our military personnel. And I don’t mean being fair to people who are bigoted I mean being fair to gay people already serving. Those people who are risking their lives for their country are not allowed to “Tell” if they are being discriminated against because they are gay, in the military. If they are worried about their gay identity, they are not allowed to Tell a military counselor or chaplain. If they are worried about their same-sex partner they cannot talk about it to their CO. They cannot get any aid for their family, no health benefits for their partner, no PX bens, no death benefits if they are killed. They are not allowed to get Civil Unions or get married in states that allow it (CT and MASS) so they cannot protect their families in the same way. They pay more taxes and are treated as second class citizens. But they do the same job and they do it well.

The main risk is that because they cannot “tell” and are not allowed to act on their sexuality by even posting on a gay web site they are at risk for blackmail, which creates a security risk by the very policy.

Before the integration of the military in 1948 most white soldiers didn’t want to serve with Black soldiers. Well, that was wrong, and so is Don’t Ask Don’t Tell. Just end it and get back to work. Fearing gay people is not the problem of gay people, it’s the problem of those with the irrational fear. Get over it and be a soldier.

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