Am I the only person who remembers the Seventies?

Back then the Prophets of Doom were all saying that man-made climate change was going to cause a new ice age, civilization was doomed, we were all going to freeze to death if we didn’t stop driving gasoline vehicles.

What’s funny (to me, at least) was that in some cases, it was the SAME PEOPLE who now complain of global warming.

In a few years, these people will stop talking about global warming and go back to predicting a new ice age (placing all the blame on us, of course), and when that happens, nobody in the MSM will even notice the irony.

Oh you silly, silly, silly knuckle-dragging conservative. Don’t you know it’s no longer “global warming” but now “climate change”. This way Algore is covered no matter what the weather does, as long as it changes.

If you have actually read the peer-reviewed science instead of incessantly gobbling up dittohead talking points, you’d know that seasonal fluctuations in the temperate zones are not reliable indicators of the global climate. Here you commit the most common denialist fallacy – conflating weather with climate. Weather is created by the thousands of variables present in the global climate. Because said variables are difficult to accurately predict in the short-term, denialists try to use unforseen weather fluctuations as evidence for the unpredictability of the climate, but that’s a fallacy easily exposed once you read the science. Weather is primarily affected by jet stream flows, the shifting of which are highly sensitive to the oceans’ temperatures by the way, and it’s accepted fact that radical shifts therein create extreme weather events like the fatal European heat wave of 2004 (northward shift of tropical jet stream) and this winter in North America (southward shift of polar jet stream.) So the uptick in the kind of extreme weather events occurring between the poles and equator over the past 10 years only strengthens the case for global warming rather than refuting it.

There are widely-accepted metrics for monitoring the Earth’s climate as a whole, and those all point in one undeniable direction: the earth is getting warmer. It is the warming observed at the planet’s extremes – the poles and deep in the oceans – that has sounded the alarm, not the occasional bad winter, and it’s poised to alter just about every human activity imaginable because climate change of the predicted magnitude hasn’t occurred on this planet since long before humans roamed it. It won’t matter as much to you and me in our lifetime, but if you want your grandchildren to enjoy the fruits of the Earth like you have, then it behooves you to act. Or you could just continue to deny reality, which so-called conservatives have become especially good at.

Al Gore has acted like the foremost expert in Global Hotpan. He is the naked king with the glorious Global Hotpan gown. Now, it seems like we are in Global Freezing. He had fantasy solutions for Global Hotpan. Then, he must have solutions for Global Freezing. What are they? How come he is not spitting his saliva in front of camera for initiating SOLUTIONS FOR GLOBAL FREEZING? Perhaps they are the same old solutions that are about to be dusted off his shelves of idiocy/fantasy of this hypocrite. He and his comrades media will start blaming you and me for not driving enough in the midst of CRISIS. OMG! We’re in CRISIS! FIRE, FIRE! We got to do something right now! Economy is in crisis, so Obama MUST do something otherwise unemployment will be in double digit. These crying babies will scare 60-70 percent of fools to frenzy. Then, they got it made.

OMG! We’re in CRISIS! FIRE, FIRE!

Only 8 more days to invade a middle east country and save us all!

Well, at least Pat didn’t resort to some vicious namecalling like he did on the Leon Panetta thread.

Speaking of idiotic Pat comments, I see the GW/CC religion is now to protect our children’s future. Never mind the fact his Adonis wants to jack up deficits to over $1T annually for said children to pay off.

I see Pat is still taking the word of the 350 scientists that actually had something to do with the writing of the IPCC report, and not the 19,000 scientists that refute it.
How’s this for gorebal warming.
And here is a pretty picture.

And Colin, I remember the hand-wringing shriekers in the 70’s, and they sound just like the one’s today, only they use the reverse argument today.
Back then, they were so concerned about a new ice age, some of the allegedly brilliant scientists(most likely the same starved for grant types as today, that are peer reviewed), wanted to cover the arctic region with suet, so that it would absorb heat from the sun, and melt the arctic ice.
If we had listened to those fools then, we would really be screwed. Inversely, if we listen to today’s fools, we will be screwed in the future.
Also, algore and his henchmen have been caught more than once lying about the climate.
Take Dr. Hansen(please, somebody) and his Goddard Institute.
They got caught lying back in November.

On Monday, Nasa’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS), which is run by Al Gore’s chief scientific ally, Dr James Hansen, and is one of four bodies responsible for monitoring global temperatures, announced that last month was the hottest October on record.

This was startling. Across the world there were reports of unseasonal snow and plummeting temperatures last month, from the American Great Plains to China, and from the Alps to New Zealand. China’s official news agency reported that Tibet had suffered its “worst snowstorm ever”. In the US, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration registered 63 local snowfall records and 115 lowest-ever temperatures for the month, and ranked it as only the 70th-warmest October in 114 years.

So what explained the anomaly? GISS’s computerised temperature maps seemed to show readings across a large part of Russia had been up to 10 degrees higher than normal. But when expert readers of the two leading warming-sceptic blogs, Watts Up With That and Climate Audit, began detailed analysis of the GISS data they made an astonishing discovery. The reason for the freak figures was that scores of temperature records from Russia and elsewhere were not based on October readings at all. Figures from the previous month had simply been carried over and repeated two months running.

The error was so glaring that when it was reported on the two blogs – run by the US meteorologist Anthony Watts and Steve McIntyre, the Canadian computer analyst who won fame for his expert debunking of the notorious “hockey stick” graph – GISS began hastily revising its figures. This only made the confusion worse because, to compensate for the lowered temperatures in Russia, GISS claimed to have discovered a new “hotspot” in the Arctic – in a month when satellite images were showing Arctic sea-ice recovering so fast from its summer melt that three weeks ago it was 30 per cent more extensive than at the same time last year.

A GISS spokesman lamely explained that the reason for the error in the Russian figures was that they were obtained from another body, and that GISS did not have resources to exercise proper quality control over the data it was supplied with. This is an astonishing admission: the figures published by Dr Hansen’s institute are not only one of the four data sets that the UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) relies on to promote its case for global warming, but they are the most widely quoted, since they consistently show higher temperatures than the others.

If there is one scientist more responsible than any other for the alarm over global warming it is Dr Hansen, who set the whole scare in train back in 1988 with his testimony to a US Senate committee chaired by Al Gore. Again and again, Dr Hansen has been to the fore in making extreme claims over the dangers of climate change. (He was recently in the news here for supporting the Greenpeace activists acquitted of criminally damaging a coal-fired power station in Kent, on the grounds that the harm done to the planet by a new power station would far outweigh any damage they had done themselves.)

Yet last week’s latest episode is far from the first time Dr Hansen’s methodology has been called in question. In 2007 he was forced by Mr Watts and Mr McIntyre to revise his published figures for US surface temperatures, to show that the hottest decade of the 20th century was not the 1990s, as he had claimed, but the 1930s.

I don’t deny climate change, it always has, for the past six billion years on earth, and always will. I not only deny the hand-wringing shriekers, that claim man is causing climate change, I mock them, they are arrogant and ignorant. Man is not that significant, CO2 is not very high compared to other times in earth’s history, and CO2 is also known as plant food.

I see Pat is still taking the word of the 350 scientists that actually had something to do with the writing of the IPCC report, and not the 19,000 scientists that refute it.

Interesting that you cite this fantastic number of scientists who refute the IPCC report, then proceed to link an editorial written in a newspaper to buttress it. 350 panelists vs. 19,000 scientists? As of 2006 there were approximately 20,000 members in the American Geophysical Union, the nation’s foremost climate scientist association which has unanimously endorsed the findings, along with the National Academy of Sciences, which has thousands more members. And that’s only a portion of the scientists here in the US who subject their work to peer review that have endorsed the report, not to mention the tens of thousands of other foreign scientists in agreement on this issue. To imply that this view is in the minority is intellectually dishonest. Deniers typically are published in popular publications, not scientific journals, which is why you can’t cite me a singular credible peer-reviewed source to counter the IPCC’s findings.

Man is not that significant

You’re right, animals can never have a negative effect on their environment. That’s why the buffalo still roams the Great Plains, the raging rivers of the American West have not been tamed into year-round aquatic playgrounds and power generators, there is no need for levees in New Orleans, the moon landing and Mars Rovers were clever hoaxes, and there’s no such place called Yucca Mountain.

nd CO2 is also known as plant food.

Yes, and saturated fat is known as animal food.

Solution:

We all be like Pat’s fake daughter – turn homo and stop reproducing.

Problem solved in less than 50 years.

Sam – surely there’s an inbred toddler that needs molesting somewhere in your little compound. Bye now.

You’re a hoot. The only things that live in compounds are Kennedys and Branch Davidians. And Democrats whacked all of the latter.

But regal us in another imaginary story, please!

“Bye now.” Too bad you don’t leave us forever.

Actually it’s “regale,” Einstein.

School much while playing Keyboard Kommandos?

Better change those Depends before you soil yourself again there, Captain Cheeto.

This is all FOLLOW THE MONEY. What do they want: cap and trade – who is going to get it – they are. Who is they – the ones who really aren’t the nut cases but instead the thieves.

How the hell is Obama going to back out of this one?

To imply that this view is in the minority is intellectually dishonest.

Since you aren’t making much sense, I will assume you mean the IPCC report, and in that case it is just dishonesty to believe the scientific community supports that pathetic tome.
So the info that algore’s top propagandist has been caught lying, twice in the last two years, means nothing to you, hunh? That reveals you as a dishonest person, that is a complete ideologue, and unworthy of serious discussion.

Deniers typically are published in popular publications, not scientific journals, which is why you can’t cite me a singular credible peer-reviewed source to counter the IPCC’s findings.

Even if that’s true, which I won’t bother to waste my time looking up, the key is those three words, “credible peer-reviewed.” Many haven’t been able to have their work reviewed, as their peers are either part of the grantsmanship process, or afraid to professionally argue with it, for fear of loss of funding.

You’re right, animals can never have a negative effect on their environment.

Thank you! In your backhanded way, you gave me a complement, and showed how you would shift the goal post. Only you, changed the debate to “their environment,” instead of global climate change.

Want to see a video of Al Gore making an idiot out of himself? Go to the folllowing site:
http://www.hootervillegazette.com
Then Click on the pic of Big Al holding up five fingers.

Dash, he isn’t a convincing liar, just a persistent one.

In other news, from the Christmas break.
Climate change chicanery.

Recent events have seen the scare campaign over global warming descend to the level of a Monty Python sketch.

A Funny Thing Happened On The Way To The Climate Forum.

Until we can explain past climate shifts and successfully predict future trends, global models are educational toys. Not indisputable evidence.

Some pundits are calling 2008 the year global warming was disproven. I prefer to call it the year science triumphed over alarmism.

FOLLOW THE MONEY

Yes it is all about greed and how the thieves can get away with it LEGALLY by using global warming scare tactics. Very good call Dianne.