Just another friendly family pet? Would you be willing to put your child's life on it?
Just as I started writing this new post on pit bulls — so I could close the comments on this post (which has grown to nearly 300 comments) — Fox 7 News Austin reported that a 6-year old Austin girl was viciously attacked by her family pet pit bull. The little girl was taken to Dell Children’s Hospital with critical injuries to her face and neck.
Police say she was in the backyard of this home she shares with her extended family Sunday morning when she was attacked.
…the man who owns the dog and also lives at the house. He was not home at the time, but tells me the girl was here with her cousins and their mother; playing in the backyard when the dog he’s had for four years bit her.
Just another “friendly family pet”. That put a 6-year old kid in the hospital in critical care. I wonder if the uncle would have described his dog as “sweet” and that it would never harm anybody?
From Wikipedia:
Pit Bulls are said to be popular with irresponsible owners, who see these dogs as a symbol of status or machismo. This type of owner may be less likely to socialize, train, or desex their pet. It is known that unneutered male dogs account for a disproportionate amount of all fatal dog attacks. Some say that many of those who do not believe in altering male dogs also believe that having and training an aggressive dog “goes with the territory,” so to speak.
But I digress.
Here’s where we stand:
- I think pit bulls are dangerous dogs. Very often owned by the most irresponsible, barely-literate, under-educated thugs and thug-wannabes.
- These pit bull lovers believe their dogs are the sweetest, kindest, most lovable pets on the planet.
- I believe that they are unpredictable killing machines.
- I believe that the dangerous, aggressive, killing, and attacking instincts are all a part of all pit bulls’ DNA — they have an inherent instinct to attack and to keep attacking until their prey is dead.
- Pit bull lovers think that they have the ability to “train” or nurture the inherent instincts out of these dogs, and that there are only bad pit bull owners, and no such thing as a bad pit bull.
Which is insane. It’s like having a pet tiger or a pet bear. Sure. You can train them to dance, jump through hoops of fire, and stick your head into their gaping jaws. But you have not trained out their instincts to kill and maul.
I could no more remove my Lab’s instinct and desire to swim or fetch a ball than you can to remove a pit bull’s natural instinct to suddenly attack and kill. Sure, I can train my dog to not go into the water. Doesn’t mean that he doesn’t still want to go swimming. Doesn’t mean that he won’t go jump in the lake someday while my back is turned.
Just like a pit bull. You might think you’ve trained your doggie to be so gentle and so kind. Until some little kid accidently holds your dog’s stare too long and your dog goes all “pit bull” on the kid and rips his throat out.
Do other dogs bite? Of course they do. Are there other breeds that bite more often than pits? Yep. Is there another breed that maims and kills people and other animals at the rate that pit bulls do? Not even close. Nearly 65% of all human fatalities from dogs are at the jaws of pit bulls.
That’s no coincidence.
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These are the other pit bull related stories that I’ve blogged about in the last couple of years:
- Sweet Family Pit Bull. Bites Officer in the Face.
- Another Pit Bull Attack, Another Dead Person
- Pit Bull Owner Won’t be Charged in Death of Nephew
- Another Pit Bull – Another Dead Child
- NFL Linebacker Steve Foley Arrested because of Pit Bull Attack
- Pit Bull Attacks Our Dog
- Pit Bull Owners Arrested in Boy’s Death
- Pitbull Killed After Attacking Police Officer in Austin
- Pit Bulls Kill 7-Year Old Texas Boy
- Another Pit Bull Attacks Another Child
- 11-year Old Boy Killed by Family Pit Bull
- Two Pitt Bulls Attack Two Young Girls in Houston
- Truck Driver Fights Back, Strangles Pit Bull to Death
- Teen Kills Elderly Neighbors Over Dog
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I own a Pit or rather my son who still lives at home does. He IS a loving,gentle,dopey dog. I still however watch him with children. I own 8 other dogs as well. 3 are mixes,3 are Labs and one is a Golden. I have seen my Pit submit to the other dogs. I have tended an ear wound when one of my older males bit him. I don’t say he will never be a problem. NO ONE can say ANY DOG will never be a problem. They are dogs and we seem to forget that they are territorial and protectors by nature. I shudder to think WHY a 7/8 yr old was found beside the road by a motorist.Yes it wwas irresponsible for those dogs to be out but being a dog owner I know that a dog can get out and get away.
I was raised with Pits,my father and neighbors had them for catch dogs. They were well trained animals that were not aggressive toward people. They were dog aggressive. I have seen them bring down 400 lb pigs that were way more aggresive and dangerous than the dogs themselves.They did not kill the pig by the way. Anyway.The point is that these dogs are not always bad.They are also not always good.Neither are humans.
i love all animals,but from all the roomers i have heard of pits the first time i was around one i was scared.but then i fell in love i dont own a pit but would like to.my mom wont let me have any more animals because we have 10 dogs 13 cats and two gold fish
hi,i am 20 years old and have a pitbull.I’ve had her since she was a puppy for 2 years. never had any problems with her. i moved to my parents house about a year ago, where they a the time had 8 orther dogs: 13 year old Austrian sherperd, 3 year old toy puddle, 2 year old german sherperd mix and 2 year old retriver/chow mix and 2 year old lab mix, 1 year old jackrussal, 1 year old chiwowa. well i moved in with them and ofcourse brought my dog with me. my pitbull dose great with other dogs, no sign of aggression. This has gone on between a 7 month period. but out of no where she attacks my chiwawa. everything is ok for about 3 weeks, later we find out shes pergant. so we come to though that maybe she attacked because she was in heat. we leave it alone she goes into laybor and has 10 beautiful puppies. now that she has her puppies she has come out to be a big bitch. she has brought out her aggression on my mother 2 year female lab/chow mix and only her. i tell u this dog is the most sweaties most lovable-go-wid dog. and she only attacks the lamb,oes striaght for her. my pitbull has to go! but i love my dog, ive train her as puppy to give me your paw, she know to walk by your side when shes on the leash, also know her bowl when we call her to eat. i say this isnt my dog but how if ive taken care of her. before the attack my mom would spoild her by letting her sleep on the bed, witch my mom never let any of her orther dogs sleep on. can someone tell me what i should do i rally dont want to see her in the pound or worst put to sleep my baby is a great dog. hat do u think went wrong?
Have your pets spayed or neutered, goodbye everybody!
ok what i do not get is why poeple thank that pittbulls are kills… ok i have 3 pittbulls and they are good dogs.. they love kids … for the poeple have do not have a pittbull … you do not have noting to say about tham…yes some pittbulls have killd befor … bec of the poeple that had they did not gave to shit about them… and did not love them… so if you do not have noting cool to say about that … do not say it
Most people are uneducated about the breed. They only know, what they read in the paper.
It is amazing to me.
You are absolutely correct! I have a female pit bull who is about a year old- she is a rescue. She is spayed. As for the original comments regarding people being “uneducated, etc etc”, let me first say that I have a college education and a full time professional job. I also own 5 chihuahuas. I have three grown children and a 6 month old grandbaby. My dog has never shown any agression towards anyone, even when my chihuahuas snap at her. If you study the history of the breed, you will see that pit bulls historically were never bred to be human agressive, only agressive towards other animals because they were used to hunt large game, in bear baiting and eventually in dog fighting. The dogs were bred to be so gentle towards humans that if a trainer put his hand in between two dogs fighting, the dog would release. Any animal that showed agression toward humans was put down. They were called “nanny dogs” for many years as well, because people got them to mind their children. The only thing that pit bulls suffer from is a huge campaign of bad press from the likes of the original poster on this thread and equal ignorance about the breed. Pits are wonderful dogs. Are there bad ones? Sure- true of any breed. But they are no worse than any other dogs and better than many. Stop villifying the breed. No bad dogs, only bad owners.
What both of you fail to understand despite your claims of being intelligent and educated is, it isn’t about which dog bites most often or is most aggressive. It is about the fact that they do so much damage when they do bite and the disproportionate number of fatalities they cause for such a small percentage of the dog population.
They are an abomination.
Sgt. Sam on 590AM this morning was talking about how a cop shot a pit bull. Others were saying he went “cowboy” on the dog…
Sam said, “Ok, so while the dog was ripping the flesh off his arm, he was supposed to ask someone to call animal control?!”
NO.
Shoot the damn mongrel!
The percetage of deaths per bite are higher on the rotti although there are less bites.
1110/104 pit
409/58 rotti
according to link posted on bite data . I also would like stats on dobbermins from the time they were in question late 70 80s they were doing all the bitting and maiming in the day.
Just think if the gang bangers get a hold of akitas or tibetan mastiffs . o boy. a whole lot of this data is correct but due to dog fighting and or them letting the dogs loose so they dont get in trouble.
why do these post all outof sequence
?? I know, it’s annoying!
However, while banning the pit bull might lower the number of human deaths, such a ban would probably not reduce the number dog bites in any significant manner. After the United Kingdom banned pit bulls in the 1990s, a study showed that the number of dog bites remained the same even though the number of pit bulls had steeply declined. (Study cited in B. Heady and P. Krause, “Health Benefits and Potential Public Savings Due to Pets: Australian and German Survey Results,” Australian Social Monitor, Vol.2, No.2, May 1999.) However, there are serious deficiencies in how dog bites are studied, making it difficult to know for certain whether a pit bull ban would reduce dog bites in general. (See Dangerous and Vicious Dogs: the Problem With Statistics.)
there is 17 a year 82 % adults
I would take a guess who most of these 14 folks are
http://www.dogbitelaw.com/PAGES/statistics.html heres some more fire power for both sides
http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=news/local&id=7120982
http://cbs2chicago.com/local/dog.mutilates.genitals.2.490060.html
I just want to say I am the recent owner of a pitbull mix and I have done alot of research cause like alot of people I said I would NEVER own one. If you google which dog has the most fatal attacks on humans it is Rotweiliers not pit bulls.
No, Alicia, it is the pits.
Go to this post, and read the stats near the bottom.
I am glad you decided to do your research on the breed.
I said I would never own a Chihuahua, and now I have two
pit bulls are good dogs if more people would care they would be even better.i get tired of ppl putting dogs down because for 1 it aint the dog its the owner
I think you can suck a dick. Pitbulls werent bred to be aggresive to anything but dogs until all these fagit niggers thought it would be cool to fight dogs. So they abused them to get them mean. You have no idea what your talking about so put a gun in your mouth and pull the trigger you fucking pathetic piece of shit.
a pitbull was breed to fight dogs and dogs only any pitbull that bite anyone was to be killed.
in the old days pitbull wheren’t breed to be human agresive but recently irrespansable breeders would breed pitbulls just for the money. they’re many other dogs that have fighting blood in them
{like the bulldog}
Oh my god. Seriously dude? I’m totally on your side and everything but it’s really hard for anyone to take you seriously when your spelling is ATROCIOUS. I mean.. I’ve seen some bad spellers in my day, but you just became #1. Also, we all know there have been other breeds deemed “aggressive” (or agresive as you would say), like every bully breed out there. They are (this would be the correct placement for they’re, just to let you know) also included in dog breed bans.
First off.. past tense of breed = bred. Correct grammar always helps to separate ideas. Agresive? IRRESPANSABLE!? Yeah. That’s the one that made me reply to you. AND THEY’RE???? Oh lord. They’re = THEY ARE. NOT THERE ARE. HOLY FUCKING SHIT. Are you 3? No one will ever take you seriously, and you are a disgrace to this side of the argument. For this kind of an issue, we need LITERATE people who can voice their opinions in a sophisticated manner. It doesn’t help to have idiots like you say “NO MI PITBULL IZ SO KEWL DUNT KILL HUM!!” Go away.
HAHAHAHAHA!!!
Your funny!!!
That made me laugh my rear off!
i think you people are retarded just because a couple of pit bull awners didnt know how to treat there dogs does not mean that all pit bull are vicious
Look if you beat and starve any doy they will be mean. I have a pit and everyone who meets her says wow i didnt know pits could be nice. All dogs reflect their owners and pits do more than most. I think that the pits that are pron to violence should be killed as with bull dogs german shepards and all dogs who will potentually kill someone, or even hurt them.
all pits just need to taught at a young age that we are more dominent then they are and never show fear twards them. no dog should be killed because of there agression thats just they way they were raised its not there fault.
I think what you are trying to say is:
“It is not their fault if they have some dog aggressive issues”?
I don’t believe in owning a human aggressive dog, no matter what the breed is.
The American Pitbull Terrier, is not an HA dog.
that is very true pit bulls should not be killed
This is not a true statement. I’ve rescued lots of dogs who have been abused and starved. Most have turned out just as friendly as a dog who has been spoiled all its life.
Also, its not how a dog is raised. That’s just; can be a factor.
It has to do with the personality of the breed.
alright you beat a dog for a while and see if it likes you, i mean if you got beat or starved or any of that would you still trust the person who did that to you
I totally agree with Michell. Any breed of dog if beaten, provoked, starved and wound up will be agressive. Any person that allows their dogs near childrens toys to play with are encouraging bad behaviour because as soon as the child takes the toy to play with the dog will not understand. I have been attacked myself by poodles, jack russells and other toy dogs, and they have also attacked my bull boxer and left him with severe injuries. But they dont get news reports on them do they? No. And I’ll tell you why, because humans dress them up in clothes and booties and when they yap and show aggression, because of their size people say oh thats cute! It is not cute it is just as aggressive as a pit bull, boxer, alsatian, rottweiler doing those actions. People need to train any dog they have sufficiently and not allow said behaviour.
Why am I not suprised about happened in Austin this weekend with… you guessed it a pit bull terrier. Sure, any dog can turn mean if abused, but there are dogs and there are dogs who do not have jaws that yawn like steel traps with the muscle concentrated around the head, neck and chest.
ban them right : there are presa ,cane corso , dogos , fila, ca de bou,boerboel ,thai ridgeback,bouvier des flandres , any mixed mastiff
all these breeds are as tough strong if not more so. Then the small number of irresponsibley owned pits . along with dobermins , belgin shepards so
good luck . People should not leave kids with them.. I have a pit mix I have never been robbed. My girlfriend never is in fear of a break in . I do see both side of the argument however ,bans wont do the trick. Cause if you ban my dog , I want poodles banned because there bark hurts my sensitive ears..
you dont belong on this page we all love pits and you are putting them down
Geez….Sounds like some pretty hostile people in this thread (last page full)….I am not here to judge, it’s not my place. It’s not my decision to make a breed of any sort extinct. Apparently some feel differently and I respect your opinion. But in the same sense, when you have passed on some day and you are in awaiting of your final “judgement” day from God…..What are you going to tell him. That you decided by statistics from some professor and all other sources that you decided you wanted to play His role for a while to “get rid” of a creature that He made. Maybe you will know this part from the Bible, basically stating that beast was creating to serve man. And we are the rulers of them. Not the destroyers…Did you ever think hmmm maybe God did this because He gave us (mankind) the ability to ration, now whether it’s irrational or not, that can only be controlled by you. Dogs (beast) only has the ability to go by what they have been taught, and if they have never been domesticated properly and trained then guess what they will fall back on their instincts. If you take a person out of their element where they feel threatened, they have the ability to rationalize the situation and deide how they are going to act. Now you take a dog of any sort out of its normal element, they will act primarily on instinct. So basically what it comes down to is that, the people who own animals in general of all types, need to be aware of the situations that animal is being put in. If you take your dog on a walk and it has never really had much socializing with other animals, you need to decide ok, what all could possibly happen if we see another animal out. What will my pet do and how are they going to react. And the people who are just totally against apparently dogs in general, because each dog is different with it’s own personality, you need to ease up a little bit. I understand that you have an opinion on this, that’s great. But everyone here needs to take a step back and think about what they are saying and how it will sound on the other end. I personally feel that you cannot judge a book by its cover, and each should be handled individually. And it should all be determined by its owner……
Reve,
First of all, these dogs aren’t one of God’s creations, they are a result of extensive breeding, to create a powerful “grabbing” dog, and were often referred to “butcher’s dogs,” where they would clamp down on an animal and restrain it during the slaughter. They were bred into existence, and should be bred out.
Your contention that dogs only do what they are taught, is not applicable to this breed, as countless severe injuries and deaths to family members can attest.
You would think that a chairman of an advocacy group for these genetic mutations would know how to train and care for her dog, right? Well, here is a story about one such person, who incidentally employs the same tactic I have seen their advocates employ here, bullying and intimidation.
Pit Bull of FABB Founder, Pro-Pit Bull Group, Attacks Dog
This problem dog should be sterilized.
I agree that dog should be killed.
I also think if the bad aggressive dogs are killed that would turn the tides on breeding in qualities more suitable . It is the extremist that say no dog ever even if he kills should be put down.. Come on. I have a bully mix hes tough . I dont believe a dog fighting or a dog that has hurt or maimed should live. Seems we have become irrashional. Its either own a docile golden or have a killer pit
Tougher breeds there is too many to list . Require very responsible owners that take preventitive action. If they ban these dogs then dog fighters will get a mastiff mix in pit and say its a mastiff. Or a wolf hound whatever . bsl will curb it they will just mask it. It is already happening just look at your local pound. pit / beagle
pit / catahoula
pit / lab
list goes on. They still use these mixes for hog dogs so to speak. To hold [wild boar] the hog in the hunt. Just some info no answers really. Sorry bout your lab getting hurt. By the way. If it is illegal for your dog to bite another in Seattle and a poodle bits my lab ? for instance does the poodle get put to sleep ? lawsuit ? How does that work ? Does this have to be proven or is it a law that protects on vicious situations where warranted ?
your about to piss me off you stupid piece of shit and all dogs were created by god he had to of made a type of dog to make the rest
Oh, you creationist, you. Yes. Dogs were created from the beginning of time. Mhm right.
I’m very surprised by everyone’s responses to this topic…
Pit-haters say pit bulls are genetically programmed to be aggressive. Pits were bred for muscle, strength, agility and courage (and the like). All of these traits were used for bull and dog fighting.
Pit-lovers say “It’s the owner, not the breed.” This really isn’t exactly true. It is merely a contributing factor. A temperament is the result of many factors, some of which include genetics, health history, early environment, current environment, and that dog’s individual personality.
Another thing, like others have said, every dog can be potentially dangerous. Pit bull-hating is the new fad. Before, it has been dobermans and rottweilers. Now, it’s pits. The only reason these dogs make headlines and others don’t is because they’re “scary” looking, and because these dogs are strong, they tend to cause the most damage.
Every dog owner should be responsible by always taking precautions around other dogs, pets and children. BSL is no different than racism. People are afraid of dogs because of how they look: size, cropped ears, cropped tails, big mouths. People are afraid of people because of how they look: skin color, tattoos, size. Just take a look at how many african americans are in prison. Does that mean that it’s okay/ethical to say that black people are more dangerous than white people? Just because one white woman is afraid of big scary black men, does justify not allowing black people to live in her apartment? Of course not. Expelling certain dog breeds from cities is no different than expelling certain kinds of people from cities. It’s not ethical. It’s not rational. BSL should not pass under any circumstances.
they’re many dogs that turn off on other dogs
and guess what the other day my pitbull was attacked by a pug who was loose while i was walking my dog with a chain. the pug suddenly turn agresive and bit him on the lip.(omg what should i do write an article about how dangerous a pug could be no becuase it’s just something that some dogs do mosly all dogs it’s just like us when their is somebody we just don’t get along with but the only diffrence is that we have reason a dog will act in its natrual instict
And it sounds to me like all of these are opinions. Which everyone is entitled to. I am hearing I lot of “I think”s and “I believe”s…..And who are these people saying that are facts according to who……maybe somone who is just as hypocritical as the next…. Just get over all these little tantrums everyone is having, everyone thinks differently and acts differently. It’s like how you train a dog some turn out really well others are just bad apples with nothing but a negative outlook on everything who will do what they want just can rebel. Kind of like a dog who was taught manners but chooses a different path when suddenly challenged….So if we take an apples to apples comparison here…sounds like you act like one of the bad apples from the mankind breed…wonder what we should do with you???? According to you if they cause problems and are dangerous and a nusance, then Ban them….Extinct the Breed….Well I say only the bad apples!!!!!!!
Gabby,
So facts don’t impress you, and you think it is as simple as good and bad apples?
I don’t know what you are thinking, other than you haven’t looked into this issue enough.
On this blog, and with threads like these that Robbie has posted, I have done extensive research, on my own dime, and recommend you do the same.
So, if it is just a case of bad apples, as you say, then why do these dogs attack, and attack this particular victim?
im from london (england) an over here at the moment we have a little problem wiv staffs but i have 1 an hes a ryt dopey lil fing, also its illegal to have a pitt bull in this country witch is a crock of shit because i aint no hippy an i dont give a flying fuck if the whales die but look a pitt bull is a dog ryt an nothing is born evil its jus kus of da stupid hillbilly tossers dat raise dem 2 bite any lil fucker with a pulse, like im young an am not politically opinunated an im live on a council flat so aint upper class but it fucks me off wen narrow minded cunts go “kill them all” like the pits av got a plan 2 fuckin inslave mankind neways sweet x
hasnt anyone here watched animal control?pit bulls are loving ,protective pets and the thanks they get is abuse and neglect!the most aggresive dogs out ther right now is the farthest thing imaginable from a pit bull, its a chihuahua!and ur laughing but its true and theyre not on the dangerous dog liste because ther sooooo small and too cute to harm a fly. But picture them as big as a great dane and you wont be laughing.
(for the ignurante people) youv obviously never watched animal control because ther ,its ALL pit bulls ABUSED AND NEGLECTED!!!sorry to burst ur buble but if you leave a dog to raum the streets its gonna bite someone regardless of the breed!and they are fighting dogs since thats what you made them ,what do you expect?
if you watch the dog whisperer 7/10 subjects are agressive chihuahuas.
aubrey, you really should pay attention.
Just above, a story about a trained shit bull, owned by a chairman of a shit bull advocacy group, attacks without provocation.
Sorry, your generalization is just that.
No, I never watch those shows, and what does the aggressiveness factor have to do with this? This breed, unlike any other, kills, maims, and causes more amputations, than any dog in the country. The best guess of the total shit bull population, nationwide, and it varies from state to state, is less than 5% of the total dog population, but in 2008 it was responsible for 65% of all dog bite fatalities. This creature is an abomination, and needs to be bred out of existence.
fuck yu dont hate on a breed that yu dont like
pitbulls are a good breed to have around children i was raised with one all my life and that is the only dog i own i have 3 pits scince i was a kid
go straight to hell you and every one else who dont like pits
Hey asshole, have you heard that 86% of provided fact are made up on the spot? Not every dog bite that happens is reported. Not every dog bite that is reported has the dog’s breed identified accurately. Not every dog bite that is reported has the correct story reported. Was the kid really attcked unprovoked? Or does the kid not want to get in trouble for hitting or teasing the dog? No census has been conducted as accurately as possible to identify all the statistics of dog attacks in the entire US, so any statistics provided in an argument cannot be taken as fact.
Are you really coming into this argument with a clean slate? Do you have any previous negative experiences with this breed? Is your view skewed?
It is absolutely not true that ONLY this entire breed maims and kills. Every dog has the capacity to injure and kill a human, but some dogs (not just pit bulls) more than others can cause more injury with just the same amount of effort. That doesn’t mean they’re an abomination. It means humans are the abomination for wrongfully judging and stereotyping.
All of you disgust me. You approach an argument with skewed opinions. We need to understand that every dog, like every person, is unique. We can take measures to train dogs properly, like raising child lovingly. And we can take precautions of preventing dog attacks, like always supervising any dog-child interactions. Temperaments are always a result of a variety of factors. Like almost everything else in life, dogs are not either black or white; it is not true to say that all pit bulls are dangerous, but it is also false to say that no pit bull is dangerous.
There is absolutely NO WAY that ANY statistics provided on this topic can be reliable. There is no doggie census. People report what they report and don’t what they don’t. Many people don’t license their dog because they aren’t insured, don’t wan’t people to know, don’t want to pay the money, etc. Pit bulls are a VERY common breed, and I find it HIGHLY IMPROBABLE that they make up only 5% of the population.
You try to provide facts, but they’re shit. Hm.. and you’re shit. See you later, Shithead (see, I can be clever with profanity too).
While you provide none. Only an epic fail at trying to be cute.
People keep fighting back and forth here on this issue but I can only speak for myself and I’ve heard way too many stories and seen some with my own eyes of the sweet family pet that never hurt a fly suddenly ripping a beloved family member apart way too often.
Is is the dog? Is it the owner?
Unless everyone is the dog whisperer…there will continue to be horror stories about the pittbull.
No2liberals:
Can you not read? Did you not see the rest of that post?
I haven’t provided any stats because they can’t possibly be accurate or reliable. I’ve noticed you do that in all of your responses to people; you point out one thing from their post that was clearly explained or described earlier (or sometimes later).
In order to really try to convince people of your point, you need to disprove or explain your view of EVERY single point they give. Good job.
A better question is, can you?
You can’t refute the work done by the only sources available on this subject, so you dismiss them out of hand?
Gotcha!
Very rational.
A blanket indictment, it must be true.
I didn’t know I had a critic that hung on my every post.
Quite often my ignoring parts of post, particularly on these Shit Bull© threads, is because they usually aren’t worthy of discussion.
That is the fallacy in your opinion of me and my posts. I don’t give a flying fart if I convince anyone or not. I am expressing my opinion based on what I have learned to counter the unsubstantiated anecdotal claims by all the Shit Bull© bullies on the web, whether they can spell or not. For these abominable dogs, the facts speak for themselves. They continue to be the most destructive dog out there when it comes to dog bite related fatalities and maimings.
There is ample data available to support my claims. Whether you find them reliable or not is your prerogative.
hasnt anyone here watched animal control?pit bulls are loving ,protective pets and the thanks they get is abuse and neglect!the most aggresive dogs out ther right now is the farthest thing imaginable from a pit bull, its a chihuahua!and ur laughing but its true and theyre not on the dangerous dog liste because ther sooooo small and too cute to harm a fly. But picture them as big as a great dane and you wont be laughing.
(for the ignurante people) youv obviously never watched animal control because ther ,its ALL pit bulls ABUSED AND NEGLECTED!!!sorry to burst ur buble but if you leave a dog to raum the streets its gonna bite someone regardless of the breed!and they are fighting dogs since thats what you made them ,what do you expect?
if you watch the dog whisperer 7/10 subjects are agressive chihuahuas.3/10 are maltese and Pekinese dogs who attack anyone who dares to groom them!
ther are a lot worst things to pay attension to besides banding dog breeds.
aubrey, what, are you a producer for the show, or own stock in their production companies?
Try reading for a change, and turn off the tube more often.
Click around on this web-page for a while, you might learn something.
and the worst thing about small dogs is they go for the face!!ALWAYS! unlike pits.a little dog will bite your nose off before a rottie ,doberman ,pit bull ,german shepherd ,and a rhodisian ridgeback will put together
isnt ther something more important to think about like ,criminals getting in to day cares?
thers gotta be something better to do besides bande AMERICAN DOGS from AMERICA!!!!!!!!!
i read what it said,and what you said, and i have a question…
what did you mean when you said “were lucky its pit bulls and not other dogs that are over bred or something like that?
why because your only raciste towards pit bulls our as you see them “shit bulls”??
and what about labs ?thers a lab down my street that bites me all the time. what about that?
I don’t believe I ever said anything like that, but feel free to post it if it does exist.
What does that even mean. They aren’t a race, dumbass, they are a breed.
Great dogs, the most popular breed in the country, somewhere in the 20% range. Go to the link I provided, and get back with how many fatalities they cause, and how many limbs have to be amputated due to their bite.
I question the veracity of your statement, but if true, the first thing that comes to mind is, you are a slow learner.
You keep avoiding the obvious, this isn’t about dog bites, it’s about dog bite fatalities, and no amount of talking around the subject and trying to make it about aggressiveness, training, or bites is going to change the simple fact that, shit bulls are dogs that kill and maim when they bite.
whoever keeps calling them shit bulls you are a shit head who needs to get there facts straight a pit was bred not for fighting but for detecting under ground bombs in ww2 thats why they have short fur power ful jaws and big muscles
Just when I think I have heard it all, another contender for the most absurd and misinformed comment rears its ugly pixels.
You can click on the following photo for a larger image, it shows what this type of dog was originally bred for, bull baiting.
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Yes…that is correct.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bull-baiting
To the lady who wrote this article, I am sorry about this boy, and NO I do not own a Pit Bull dog, but have 2 GSD’s… My dogs have never bit anyone, and it is not because they are German Shepherds, think… they use them in Police work!!! Where they are Trained to BITE PEOPLE…… I know many families who have Pit Bulls for pets and have children and never have one problem… You need to do your actual homework on this breed before you start bad mouthing them, you are just like this breed!!! Biting every Pit Bull owner out there, hurting them. Because MISSY… It is not the breed, but the individual Dog itself, the dogs owners, the dogs training, the dogs socialization… But not the Pit Bull Breed… If there were an article written like this bogus one you just wrote every time a dachshund or chihuahua bit someone or attacked a child the world would never hear the end of it!!! You are one of those people sheltered, un-educated on Dogs, and Dog BREEDS. Yes, People who want to own a Pit Bull dog, aggression can be passed down from the Sire and Dam!!! It is this way with every Dog Breed in the World. Do your research when you get a puppy, meet the puppies Sire and Dam. Handle them, play with them… Are there children in the home??? If people would stop breeding aggressive dogs, we would probably not have as many aggressive dogs in this world!!! So once again it is the owner, the breeder, the Dog itself… NOT THE BREED!!! Here… how does this feel!!!
“Humans should be KILLED, Humans should be euthanized because a select few of us have KILLED other people, and a select few of us have been in brutal fights, Look at how full our prisons are of these BAD BAD HUMANS that are out to HURT people!!!” People are like this by choice… Dogs are Dogs, and are only as good as the People around them, and there owners!!!
So all you Pit Bull haters need to Shut Up!!! I am sick of hearing all this Crap!!! You are a bunch of Close Minded Sheep!
Spoken by one who’s mind is so wide open, her gray matter has fallen out.
I have, and you obviously haven’t, or you wouldn’t spout off with such drivel.
Ok, one more thing… “$hit BULLS” Wow, what immature person started that comment, ok… I really hope you don’t have children in the house, you are one of the people who should never own a dog!!! Because with your MEAN attitude that dog would probably end up a BITER, because of it’s OWNER “YOU”… Really!!! Grow up…
Try following the advice you dispense so freely.
I coined that term, Shit Bull® and proud of it. It expresses my opinion about this destructive breed, and their supporters.
go fall off a bridge
Did I hurt your feelings, now you know what you are doing to every responsible Pit Bull owner out there!!!
Hah, you couldn’t possibly, but it is clear that was your intent. Glad to disappoint.
As for the responsible Shit Bull® owners, that responsibility also includes criminal charges and civil lawsuits when their “sweet baby” attacks.
For my Homework, I will say… I am a Board Member of a Local Humane society, a Dog Trainer at a Kennel Club, and Care Giver of Pit Bull dogs at a HUGE second chance Rescue!!! Which is full of Pit Bulls due to Terrible Owners!!!
This may surprise you, but your statement doesn’t surprise me at all. Actually, I would have been more shocked if you hadn’t told us that.
Source.
Go forth and educate yourself, since you consider yourself soooo open minded.
you could be my new best friend
Actually when I think about it, did HUMANS not create this BREED!!! See we are to blame. YOU “No2Liberals” ARE TO BLAME… as you are part of this RACE!!!
True, but can you say the same about yourself?
I can and will, I am ashamed of what us humans have done to these dogs, we never should have bred them to FIGHT for our PLEASURE… We are sick! But we have evolved, and these dogs do not have a voice, rather society still thinks they are being bred to fight to this day. Granted in some Terrible neighborhoods where those people should not have children let alone a dog, they fight pit bulls! But many people have had Pit Bulls and they have made great family dogs. Think about it, if us humans can go from owning SLAVES… to being kind to everyone where this world is not racist, why can’t we do the same for these dogs. Yes, get rid of the ones that are MEAN!!! But the Pit Bulls that are great dogs do not need to suffer for this!
Answer me this… Please… “True or False” All Pit Bulls ARE Mean Dogs!
I wouldn’t know if many of them are mean, what I do know is they cause more fatalities and severe injuries when they bite. 65% of all DBRF in 2008 were from Shit Bulls®.
But are ALL Pit Bulls MEAN DOGS? Yes or NO
If you believe it is about this breed being mean, then say so.
I believe it is about how they are innately inclined to attack, and to kill and maim when they do, unlike any other breed.
Why do you call them Shit Bulls, that is not a Breed I have heard of!!!
You didn’t see the registered trademark symbol?
It’s a new and improved label for this shitty breed.
I thought you were educated?
That’s an improvement.
Over the 32-year period from 1965-2001, Pit Bulls have been blamed for/accused of an average of 2.48 human fatalities per year.
About 40 people (children) per year die by drowning in 5-gallon water pails. A person, during their lifetime, is 16 times more likely to drown in a 5-gallon water pail than to be killed by a Pit Bull.
Yes, but how many five gallon water buckets bust through fences, or jump over them, and chase someone down, maul them to death or disfigurement?
I await your stats.
Well, since we we are so inclined to throw out terrible Breed Gestures… I would say you… Instead of Human would be a Shit Human!!! Wow, do you realize how stupid that sounds! It sounds like you cannot come up with anything SMART to say, rather you put a Profane word in front of another and then you sound Tough… I don’t know but you are making me Laugh!
Yeah, but Shit rhymes with Pit, and is also very descriptive of the breed.
It is estimated that 5,000,000 dogs per year are killed in shelters. Since in many places pit bulls make up 30-50% of the shelter population, and are less likely to be considered for placement than any other breed, guessing that 25% of those dogs killed are pit bulls is a very conservative estimate. Therefore, it can be assumed that roughly 1,250,000 pit bulls are killed per year. Therefore – it is at least a HALF MILLION TIMES MORE LIKELY that a Pit Bull will be killed by a HUMAN than the other way around.
Just wanted to say, I think everyone who visits this blog should go to this page…
http://www.thetruthaboutpitbulls.com/
I have posted the last two comments above from this Page!!! You can get tons of great info here! Please help educate the World on this Breed rather than Bully it!
And while you are at it, go to this story, about the “sweet baby” raised since a pup.
As for your idea of
educatingmisinforming the world about this breed, that is the perfect site to do so.Ha ha ha ha!!! Ok, I am trying to catch my breath… you know how to rhyme? Really? Actually Pit may rhyme with the word S***! But… Ok I am trying so hard not to laugh… Um, how do I say this w/o Making you sound Stupid, Oh… I can’t sorry! Pit Bulls are not Descriptive in any way to S***! LOL, still laughing… Um if we are talking about the same thing then a (Dog Breed) Well has 4 legs, a tail, ears, eyes, can eat, drink, walk…. When is the last time you saw a (Pile of Poop or S***) do that!!! Are we still talking about Pit Bull Dogs, or do you really want to talk about your human Waste!!! What ever floats your boat, or a I mean what ever floats your Moat!!! Oh, did I just rhyme!
I saw it just now, right here.
And now see a sweet Pit bull here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcU1OsDMWBQ
For every mean Pit Bull video you Post there is a Kind one to come after it.
Still Looks like a Dog to me!
To see a sweet Pit Bull go here!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcU1OsDMWBQ
For every Mean Pit Bull video you post a kind one can come after!
I think you need glasses, that looks like a Dog to me, not a Pile of Poop!
Do not post on this blog, I made 2hrs. worth of posts, helping the argument of Pit Bull dogs. We all know they can be great dogs, and family members. There is a real close minded person on here “N02Liberals” Ignore anything this person says, they are uneducated and just crude. Pit Bull owners everywhere! Be proud of your dog! One day the world will see it is the Bad owners, and breeder of this Great Breed that brings it down. NOT THE BREED!!!! We know we are right, that is all that matters!!!
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Uh, didn’t you know that Pit Bulls were originally bred to PROTECT children and families. So they are very protective dogs in the first place. Now its stupid people that make them mean. People that use them for fighting because they are big and strong. Its because of people that these dogs have a bad rep. It is very uncommon that a dog is born mean, it does happen, but not often. It is how they are raised that makes them the way they are. Pitbulls aren’t the only breeds that have attacked and killed humans. They are the only ones that make the news and made a big deal because they are looked apon as BULLIES. I work with every breed of dog that you can imagine, and I have never been biten or afraid of any of the pits or pit breeds. I’m more scared of getting attacked by a toy poodle than any pit that comes through the doors of my kennel.
ONCE AGAIN, pitbulls aren’t the only breeds that have attacked and killed people! What about all the rott mixes and german sheperds and lab mixes? They aren’t a shitty breed and to everyone bad mouthing pit bulls you should be ashamed of yourselves. You obviously don’t know shit about anything, and your racist and ignorant. Your one of those people who spends more time reading star magazine and believing all the lies and forcing your opinion on others. Your too stupid to see both sides and you’re the reason I hate people.
What a perfect, yet unsurprising, conclusion to a typical Shit Bull® lovers comment.
No2Liberals…..Since all you can produce is opinions and stories…….Here’s mine………….You are a senseless waste of time, who is probably just sitting at home seeing how much of a riot you can cause by starting up a controversial blog…..You are not worth it. We all know that a PIT BULL, not a shit bull ( no such thing just in case you were unaware) is just another loving animal who requires all the same things any dog requires: rules, boundaries, limitations, and affection. Apparently you are not interested in the well being of this animal so just shut the H*** up. You are a waste of space! and AMEE’s comment on why she hates people does not even mean that she is a “typical” pit bull lover, it just means that she agrees with me. You are nothing but a troublemaker, trying to stir up people who really do try to do the right things in this life……Please make a comment back to me, because sunshine i will nail you right down in the dirt. I deal with people like you all the time!!!
Reve, first of all, I have posted facts as well, documented by an organization run by a lawyer who specializes in Dog Bite Law. You should read the links.
You are showing the same characteristics I have seen the zealot Shit Bull® supporters use, and that is not paying attention. I didn’t start this blog, dingus, I am a contributor.
No, I’m not, I’m interested in seeing this breed go extinct, and you can go fellate yourself.
I don’t make trouble, I confront it, and I refuse to allow the Shit Bull® crowd to gain control of this debate on this forum, as they have done on so many others, through their bullying tactics and intimidation. I don’t have to try and stir these people up, they come spring-loaded, and I have no idea if they really want to do the right things in life, but based on their support for this dangerous breed, I have more doubts than you.
Ohhhh, a tough guy. Well, bring it dickhead, lets see what you got, I’ve dealt with worse than you on a coffee break.
NO2liberals apparently you dont know anything about the breed last year they were in the bottom 5% for dogs bite the info you use is poor research collies and chows are more likly to kill someone then any pit bull and the 65 % is of the last 24 years not 2008 An American has a one in 50 chance of being bitten by a dog each year and thats any dog
not just pits
Would you rather be attacked by a pit bull or a poodle? A pit bull or a lab? A pit bull or a rabid monkey? Pit bulls = exceptionally dangerous dogs that are wired for aggression and a passion of killing. You can not train that hard-wiring out of a pit bull. Out of any dog. To believe otherwise is folly.
lawman, I have given links to my information sources, show me yours.
Get your facts straight about pitbulls before you start posting to everyone. No one knows what this child was doing ahead of time. God forbid I would never wish harm on a child but, any breed of dog could do this. What about people that have a few Rottweillers in their back yards or breeds like that. They are stronger then any pit bull could ever be. Heck, I would be more scared to walk into a room with chi’s and poodles then I would with pittbulls.
Its too bad a breed has to be unjustly condemed because people walk around with blinders on. I myself have a pitbull, and a rottweiller and niether would harm another person. It is the owners responsibility to properly raise them. They are part of my life and I just feel that I had to say something.
As a pitbull owner I empathize with those who believe these animals are born killers. I was at a time ill-informed as well. I, too believed the propaganda that the media over plays to discourage the ownership of these animals. While I believe that the killing of an innocent child by a viciuos dog should be made public so should the character of the owner. The leash is an extension of the owner. This animal used to be one of the most beloved animals in America, starring in War time commercials and The Little Rascals. They are creaters who are sensitive to the dispositon of their owner, emphazing again the importance of who is at the beginning of the leash will shape, and should be held responsible for the actions of the animal. The pitbull is often more patient and will tolerate actions more readily that than other breeds. I have seen a Yorkie bite through a child’s eye lid because the child made a sudden motion towards it. The owner? Shrugged off the one of many instances to “Peanut being over protective again” This didn’t make news, there isn’t some over played media saying the overbread and over priced animal should be labeled a killer! The child? She is now blind at the age of 4.
The public needs to realize that animals are shaped by those who own them. Providing an environment of training, discipline, love and affection creates the animals disposition for the long term. Owners are the ones who made this strong, tolerant, and loving creature into killers.
Bella, I disagree. The ability and desire to kill and maim was bred into this dog. No other dog bites like it, with as much power, and will not let go. Even on it’s own loving family members.
If it can be breed into the breed, one would think it could be breed out.
No child should ever be left alone with any dog in my opinion. All dog owners must be responsible owners regardless of breed.
That’s my opinion and I’m sticking to it!
ok ,not all pit bulls are abused.do you know why?
it only takes 1 person to abuse 2 pit bulls breed for 10 years and what do you have?500 man killing machines!
aubrey, honestly, the whole meme about only abused dogs attack is not applicable with this breed.
I coined that term, Shit Bull® and proud of it. It expresses my opinion about this destructive breed, and their supporters.
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why do you have the right to “express” your opinion and we dont?
i say that because everytime someone “expresses”ther opinion you have a wright to critisize.and then u criticize right back when we tell you how we feel.
Anonymous, anyone has the right to express their opinion on robbie’s blog. Criticism is also a freebie.
If you want an echo chamber for Shit Bull® love, they have their own sycophant forums. This is decidedly not a pro-Shit Bull® forum, and never will be.
Pit bulls are always blamed for everything that goes bad. What if the child was doing something to the dog perhaps? Pits always have bad reputations. I have had my pit for 8 years and never in my life has he attacked any person or dog. Thats a shame people cant realize any dog can attack. People that treat there dogs wrong, I could understand why the animals would attack. Not all humans treat there animals cruel
No2liberals if your theory that killing is something that was bread into the dog then would a human whose parents were abusive killers be considered bread to destroy and kill? I know that is an out there comparison but at one point all dogs were working dogs. Each provided a specific service to humans. Rhodesian Ridgebacks which are indegionous to South Africa are bread to take down lions. Boxers were bread as hunting dogs for bears, wild boar and deer in Germany. They have strong jaws that allow them to clamp down on prey with out letting go. This strong jaw attribute in a pit was beneficial since they are proficient at any canine task like herding, gaurding, hunting, policing, cart pulling and ratting. Each of these animals has what you consider a predisposition to being born killers. I feel the strentgh and power of an animal is something to be respected again they are animals. It is up to the owner to raise the animal appropriatly. It is the owners responsibilty to provide activites and training that foster appropriate behavior and work to the animals strentghs.
The current image portrayal of these animals can be attributed to those who have used their amazing strengths against the animal and in favor of their own financial gains. I have to reiterate that the media has caused hysteria regarding this very affectionate breed. And has caused persons like you who have little experience with interacting much less training a pitbull, on a witch hunt that is only going to hurt the animal.
Bella, you assume far too much, like so many others here have, about my experience with dogs.
It is because of personal experience, as well as fact based statistics, that I know that these dogs are the most destructive. Unlike you, and others, I have no, and never will have, an emotional attachment to this ill bred dog.
The often repeated lie that it is how the dog is treated or trained is very tiresome. Tell that to the countless families who have lost loved ones, or had them maimed for life, by these dogs they have lovingly raised as a trusted family friend.
How this breed got it’s name was because it was bred for “bull baiting.” Considered a sport at one time, this breed came along just after the “sport” was banned, but obviously the “sport” continued underground. This is the only breed known to attack a bull. It would clamp down on it’s snout, and never let go. Then it was a butcher’s dog, used to clamp down on an unruly animal while it was being slaughtered.
I don’t care about the media, and I don’t care about the emotional attachment some have for this breed. It’s that emotional attachment that blinds you and others from seeing this dog as the menace it truly is, and is slowing the process, but not stopping it, in removing this breed through sterilization.
I don’t want to hurt the animal, I want it extinct. I’ve seen and read all I need to know, to realize that is the best course for the safety of humans. A species I truly do care about.
Look at the picture of the poor dog chained up at the top of the page. I’ll bet if you took a poodle and did that to it, it would be pissed off all the time too. Ever see Caesar Milan’s pit bull pen. They are good dogs generally speaking as far as their dispositions. Unfortunately they are also good fighting dogs due to their willpower to please their masters, strong jaws, and low centers of gravity.
All dogs are dangerous, the same way people are dangerous potentially. Labradors bite more people than pit bulls do, even though there are far more pits alive in the United States currently than Labs. I think that lies with the fact that many people believe Labs are easy dogs to raise, requiring little attention or training, when the truth is they are a very time consuming breed to be raised properly.
Pits are easier dogs to raise, but if raised improperly are more dangerous than a chihuahua for sure.
Media attention against this specific breed sells very well, hence the increased attention and hysteria assigned to pit bull attacks. I suspect it has much to do with racism. Pit bulls are generally associated with gang violence, a largely minority problem. I do mean to imply that if you hate pitbulls unconditionally that you are a racist, not necessarily a people racist but definitely a doggy racist.
If you have a reliable source of information in a link, I would love to see it. It contradicts everything I have found, as Labs are the most popular breed in this country, approaching 20% of the population, with pits under 5%.
WTF are you smoking?
If you have never owned or really gotten to know a pitbull and you believe what you have heard on TV about “pitbull attacks” then it makes perfect sense that you would hate them. I used to think they were predispositioned to kill. They absolutely are not. They were breed to be fearless, and never give up. Combine these traits with a high energy dog tied on a short rope or chain living in the back yard, never meeting other dogs or having normal interactions with people and you set them up for disasterous consequences when they bust out of that yard. However, if they are treated like a pet, live inside, get taken outside to exercise and meet other dogs and people they dont become bad! It pisses off responsible pitbull owners tremendously when you love your dog, your dog loves everyone. But everyone is scared of a dog whose favorite things are snuggling, kisses, and squeaky toys. Pitbulls were never breed to be human aggressive. dobermans are, german shephards are, belgian mallinois are. In my own experiences ive seen scars on many people from dogs, mainly chows for some reason, maybe you have, too, maybe you havent. ive never seen in person a scar on a human from a pitbull. have you?
Yes, and ugly, life altering scars, at that.
I know the lovers of this breed want to make this out as purely media sensationalism, but it’s not, they are reporting factual, horrific events, that could be prevented, if this type of dog were sterilized.
This message is for No2liberals. Sorry your dog was attacked by a pitbull. Instead of reading so much about reports involving pitbulls, maybe you should also read about dog training, and behavior, and figure out how to act around dogs. You are obviously a deeply disturbed person. Im sure youll disagree with me but its true, and I urge you to seek help from a therapist. You were obviously already apprehensive of pitbulls when youre dog was bitten, not killed. Perhaps your dog picked up on your state of mind and brought that negative energy near a very protective, powerfull, fearless breed of dog. Who knows. Maybe it happened as you described, maybe you dont know warning signs in dogs. I dont know, you’re story sounded very contradictory of how animals behave. Some people own pitbulls for generation upon generation and never have an incident. Some people love their dogs but dont know how to treat them and give them what they need. If you have a dog who is dog aggressive and you cant fix the problem or afford to hire a trainer, then you have no business taking your dog out in public. Shame on anyone who does, no matter what breed. I guess you must have vast knowledge of pitbulls with all the reading you must do. Do you know what percent of dog attacks involving pitbulls are dogs that are not pitbulls? Well u cant know, but animal control officers often respond to pitbull attacks and find boxers, bulldogs, mastiff breeds, mixed breeds, and very rarely find a pure american pit bull terrier. Ive seen estimates for as many as 90% of pitbulls involved in altercations are not even pitbulls. If its a big mean dog that bites it must be a pitbull, is a common perception. In a perfect world only responsible intelligent people would own powerful dogs, guns, knives, metal pipes, and the right to reproduce. So would you feel better if i cut the head off every pitbull in the world? Then what would you bitch about? What about the little girl who was attacked by 2 dogs and saved by a pitbull? You can go on youtube and watch all kinds of pitbull videos, the vast majority are not aggressive. You will also see the ones that are aggressive being encouraged to be that way by idiots. How do you think people who go out of their way to be responsible pitbull owners, and have happy well behaved dogs feel when ignorant people like you wish their dogs were dead? We should shoot our dogs dead because you have internet and decided my dog that you have never seen is dangerous? WTF is wrong with you? You should be fixed and have your child taken away so you cant spread your ignorance. You need to wake up and realize you would get the shit kicked out of you if you talked this shit to people in person. Go to the dog park and tell a pit owner what you think about their dog, you fucking coward.
Why are you making shit up?
No, just their danglies and plumbing.
I have, and all I have ever gotten is foolish words like yours, although, they are quite loud and spray a lot when they scream.
Only people who don’t know me ever say that.
Eric, people like you are part of the problem, and not the solution.
they were YOUR links learn to read it all No2Liberals
Im part of what problem? Yours? Is it because my dogs are canine good citizens, spayed, and loved by everyone who gets to know them? You know whats funny about my dogs is I thought they would be harder to train than my dads lab, and german shephard. But they arent. They want to please me soo bad. My fathers purebreed chocolate lab will not retrieve. He will go get it an go play with it, never return it. Isnt that odd since its part of his DNA according to you. Breeds have drives, which people breed them for and hopefully they are passed on, but nothing is certain. Just like your father may have had common sense, but he didnt pass any along to you. I am fully aware that any idiot can buy a dog, and unfortunately people buy pitbulls and do horrible things to them, and have them for the wrong reasons. I am all for most pitbulls being spayed, Just not the ones owned by people who are responsible in the way they breed. The problem with banning these dogs by fixing them all is that they will still be around. Tied up in backyards, breed poorly, not get proper vet care, and still owned by the people that shouldnt be allowed to own a dog. I do believe that the owner of a dog should be 100% responsible for their dog. Anything a dog does the owner should be charged as if they had personally done what their dog did. regardless of breed or circumstance.
Thank you. I think everything you said was true. I’ve own pit bulls before and will never own them again. I’ve raised them as babies and they always ended up showing some kind of aggression either towards people or livestock. You’re right on.
Lawman, you should follow your own advice, and read from the link.
First you say my sources are bad, then you selectively address one of the links in the source I provided. There are many different studies, but the one you want to cite as valid is the Clifton study, which ended in 2006. The stats for 2008 are accurate. So know of what you speak before shooting your mouth off.
Not after about twelve years they won’t, and as the Council Bluffs stats show, the attacks/bites will start to diminish immediately.
So how do you determine a responsible owner?
We have people who, after having children, show they are irresponsible. People who go through the process of getting a driver’s license, and in many cases a CDL, only to discover they are irresponsible.
That still doesn’t explain the fact that many so-called responsible owners of these dogs attack family members without provocation, as evidenced by this very post about a six year old girl, and countless others.
I agree, and that is happening in more and more communities. It’s a start, but sterilization is still my choice for a long term solution.
Jazz, thanks for stopping by.
I, like you, never want to be around this type of dog, ever again.
The final note on Brenda Hill’s attack, from the video above, is that she had to have part of her right leg amputated, it was chewed up so badly. This after her neighbors dogs busted through the chain link fence and attacked her in her own backyard.
Pitbulls will never be extinct, no matter how much people are scared of them. Way to many people have a tremendous love of this breed. I am not going to get another dog for at least 5 years, when I do it will be another pitbull. From now on I will never neuter my pitbulls. I will breed them responsibly. If anyone thinks it would be possible to make me get my dogs fixed, they are Dead wrong. All of these people who want to get rid of this great breed are just bitching to bitch. If it wasnt pitbulls it could be handguns, mexican immigrants, foriegn cars, pink houses, or anything else they dont like so they are scared of. What a miserable existence for these people. Some people always believe what they are told, some people believe what they see. Pitbulls are everywhere! What percent of pitbulls attack people? And your not trying to get alcohol banned to stop killing hundreds of people daily? If you never saw the news about pitbull attacks, or heard people lie about them, then what would you think? Killing machines, hardwired to maim and destroy. Anyone who thinks that has been lied to. Well I gotta go my pits go to the nursing home on Sundays to say hi and kill.
Shit Bulls® are less than 5% of the total dog population in this country, yet they Kill more people and other animals, than any other breed. Yet, you see no problem with that.
This is an easy problem to resolve, unlike some of the other societal problems you have mentioned.
That’s the first truthful thing you have said.
In an 85 day period in 2008, from July through September this is what Shit Bulls® have done:
They do LOVE elderly folks, don’t they? Make sure you have plenty of liability insurance.
thats not the link keep tryin
You keep trying, and show what you mean, or effoff.
n all fairness, therefore, it must be noted that:
* Any dog, treated harshly or trained to attack, may bite a person. Any dog can be turned into a dangerous dog. The owner or handler most often is responsible for making a dog into something dangerous.
* An irresponsible owner or dog handler might create a situation that places another person in danger by a dog, without the dog itself being dangerous, as in the case of the Pomeranian that killed the infant .
* Any individual dog may be a good, loving pet, even though its breed is considered to be potentially dangerous. A responsible owner can win the love and respect of a dog, no matter its breed. One cannot look at an individual dog, recognize its breed, and then state whether or not it is going to attack.
But one can look at a Shit Bull® and say, yep, those dogs kill more humans than any other when they attack.
Another day, two more Shit Bull® attacks.
It must have been their fault for going to a grocery store in the middle of the morning.
/sarc
The Pit Bull has been traditionally bred to be a fighting dog. They were meant to be pitted against other dogs with human handlers in the pit. Any dog that showed even a sign of hostility towards a human was immediately shot. This created a breed of dogs that is docile towards humans, but only aggressive towards other dogs.
Pit Bulls are not aggressive man-killing devil beasts unless they’re completely neglected, abused, or guess what – they’re most likely not APBTs.
Sadly, the only way to control this problem is BSL because a lot of pit bull owners are irresponsible morons who want a “tuff dawg” and they raise them to be aggressive, and tragedies unfortunately happen. They’re rare but they give a noble breed of dogs a generally bad image based on what a small number of poorly bred APBTs and APBT resembling dogs do.
everything i wrote so far are from your links and you dont approve your own source how reliable are you
All of what?
You make a vague reference to the info I produced, and won’t even cite it.
You are a total chicken-shit troll.
I have 2 pitt bulls of my own,one is half blue pitt half red nose and she loves my babies.She is a very friendly dog and me and my boyfriend trained her well.The only time she will attack is if somebody tries to harm our family,or if she believes we are in danger at any point.My other dog Brock is the same way….he loves the kids and the family and will do the same.Everybody says pittbulls are mean and killer dogs,but no…it is the owner who makes them that way.Train your dog right and they wont attack.So all of you who dont own pitts……please dont talk untill you know the real truth behind pitts.
We’ve all heard the truth, as spoken by this dog’s supporters, and compared it to the real truth in the real world.
They don’t match.
Owners of dangerous dogs are the least responsible dog owners of all.
I think people who want pitbulls banned are people who look for excuses. It is easy to blame a breed or even a race for something bad that happens. That is why it happens. It is easy. What I dont understand is the general publics approach to dealing with problems, and not learning from previous mistakes. Kids are being bitten by dogs more now than ever. Pitbulls may have killed the most people, but they arent the most human aggressive. Dogs have something called a prey drive. It is what makes dogs chase cats, birds, or anything that runs from them while scared. This is appearantly way too complicated for some people to figure out. If a dog is loose and you want it to chase you, you run. If you want it to bite you, run scream and fend it off when it gets to you. If you dont want to be bitten, stay calm face the dog without staring at it, keep in your peripheral vision. when it shows a lack of interest in your boring self then walk away. If it is charging towards you, just say “come here” “good boy” these should be common terms the dog has heard before. If you get bit anyway, you need to stay calm, and quiet, I know it sounds hard but b doing this you are not giving the dog any reason to bite you. All too often people think they are minding their own business then get attacked, but most of the time they unwillingly invited the attack. Now what I dont understand is with all the people who get attacked by dogs of all breeds, why we arent taught how to deal with dogs in kindergarten. I strongly believe this would prevent many incidents. In Germany children learn to train german shephards, which can be very aggressive and have been trained to bite people for hundreds of years Yet in Germany they have a small fraction of dog related incidents.
Mail Carrier Knows Dogs.
Of the 2008 Fatalities, 65% were by pit-bulls and mixes. Of the 23 fatalities, 15 were family dogs, 8 were non-family.
There is no excuse or justification for allowing this type of dog to continue to breed.
NONE!
The stat your quoting is part of the problem, pitubll owners have. The part that says “mixes.” A very high percentage of dogs labeled pitbulls and pitbull mixes do not have any relation to the American Pit Bull terrier. Yes other bully breed dogs are classified as pitbulls, but the American Pit Bull terrier is the only breed with Pit Bull in its name. They are a type of dog that needs lots of attention. They can be dog aggressive, and shouldnt be left alone without supervision. If the dogs had a choice they would choose to live indoors and be your cuddle buddy. Unfortunately most live on chains in back yards. Some live on very short chains their entire lives never get to “play” or go for a walk, you would think pitbulls that live like this would bite anyone they see. I have seen several in these exact circumstances and completely baffled by how sweet they actually were. They crave human attention. I am talking about the real pitbull that hardly weighs over 50 lbs. These dogs are human companions. Theyre domestic animals. They were one of americas most beloved breeds less than a hundred yrs ago. WTF happened? A couple generations of bad parenting resulting in a bunch of idiots who have sick ideas of what is cool. And no idea how to treat an animal. I will guarantee you any dog who kills a human, had an owner who either knew their dog was dangerous, or made the dog dangerous. Of course they will say it was a family pet, but are you gonna hear them say” yeah i just kick him a lot and feed him gunpowder, then i kept him in a cage by himself a few months, then I put him in the backyard so he would fuck up anyone who came back there, then he busted through the fence and killed a child. ” Of course not. People feed them gunpowder to make them crazy and vicious. You know why they do that? Because a pitbull wont just bite someone for no reason, they may not have a reason that makes sense to most people, but it really is pretty simple stuff. Your behavior has a huge impact on how a dog treats you. Any power breed dog is capable of killing a human, just because a few have doesnt mean they all will. Peoples approach of the problem by banning a breed is asinine. Its like saying white people kill more than blacks or mexicans so white people have to get neutered, its the only way of preventing more murders. Education is a much better way of solving problems.
Education?
Like the kind the founder of ‘Families Against Breed Bans’ gave at a pet store after her presentation?
Yeah, a lot of people learned a valuable lesson that day, and in days following.
I don’t care if they are American, Staffordshire, or any other mix, they need to be neutered, so the breed goes away.
Texas is the pit bull death capital of the world, and it is because of the out dated ‘one bite rule.’ As the fatalities mount, we will let our legislators know about it, and we can look at what some other states are doing, such as Ohio.
So a pitubll left puncture marks on another dog? My neighbors poodle was killed by german shorthaired pointer a few months ago. Also a child was torn up pretty bad last year by an austrailian shepherd running loose in the area. Maybe all dogs should be sterilized. Surely that would prevent injuries to people by dogs. While were at it we should also get rid of snakes, hippos, elephants, sharks, and all other dangerous man killing animals. As far as protecting our children lets also ban motor vehicles since they kill more kids than all animals combined, then guns, alcohol, knives, and anything else that has killed 100 people in the last decade. Im so glad you have your priorities straight. Maybe you should go visit that shithole Ohio before you reccommend we try to be like them. Ask a family in a residential neighborhood how much safer they feel, how much better they sleep at night? Probably not much different, because a loose dogs are still all over the place. There are plenty of breeds a person could buy that are very dangerous and highly human aggressive. Pitbulls are not by anymeans more dangerous or capable than the other breeds, but there are millions of dogs labeled pitbulls, even though real pitbulls are rare. http://www.pitbullsontheweb.com/petbull/findpit.html
Its easy to watch the news and hear about a pitbull attack, you dont hear about the other 500 dog attacks that day that were not pitbulls. Anytime a pitbull bites its on the news. Other breeds kill and still dont make the news.
No dog kills or maims with the frequency of pits.
Nice how you just ignore the fact that the pit in this attack was owned by a pit advocate, like you, had trained it, and was out proselytizing to the masses about what a wonderful breed it was. The dog didn’t get the memo, and showed it’s true nature. Puncture marks? It nearly killed that lab, without provocation, and even it’s owner couldn’t control it. Then other pit advocates threaten to sue the newspaper if it runs the story.
As low as my estimation is for this type of dog, the advocates of it are rapidly reaching the same depth.
Excuse after excuse for this type of dog, with no concern for the well being of others.
Shit Bulls™ are the most deadly dog around. Others may bite more, or be more aggressive, but none even come close to the number of fatalities, disfigurements, and severed limbs, as these dogs do.
Obfuscate and lie all you want.
fuck any one who hassa problem with pit bulls, i dont “claim ” anything any time u want u can come see my pit play with my cats and my 8 5 and 1na ahlf y.o. neice and nephews fuck you if u think that it is a bad breed, animal rascist fucks!!!
YU TELL THA BIAATCH! I HAVE 4-PITS AN I RAISED THEM TO HAVE AWSUM TEMPERMENTS SO YA I’M FUKN TIRED OF IGNORANT ASSOHLES WHO DON’T OWN OR KNO SHIT ABOUT THA BREED! BUT THEY SURE CAN JUDGE EM ALL BAD! FUK THEM!
every single fucking dog in this world is instinctive to kill, assholes who own these dogs shud b put to sleep, if u know how to raise a pit bull( differently than a chihuahua) u r going to have a great dog, not just a pit bull, what about the 2 year old that was killed by a daschund? the lil shit jumped into his crib because he was crying and mauled him to death!! all dogs are the same, who raises them makes their personality grow or diminish!!!
Another excellent example of the type of person that praises this type of dog. Foul-mouthed and ignorant.
Seriously, get help.
Look, I get the point here. You hear about a certian breed many times , then it comes to a point, where you expect it. Even if you want to say I’m wrong, it DOES matter who trains the Pit Bull. I just got my little baby at the HS and he is wonderful! He is a mix but still has the Pit features in his face. Every dog can be mean or aggressive, if it is trained that way. With any dog in this world, you have to show them who is the boss and that your in charge AT ALL TIMES. If you don’t do that, any dog will take control and become violent to you or others. So for anyone to say that Pit Bull’s should be killed, is just stupid. To kill any animal is wrong. Have a frickin heart and train your animals with respect, so they grow up right. For anyone who would buy a Pit, just to fight it, is SO DISGUSTING! Now those people need to be put away. I could never imagine EVER hurting my little boy. He is so cute and loving. He is one of the best dogs I have ever met and is in a good home, that will always take care of him and love him.
My dog is just the sweetest thing!
Six-year-old attacked by pit bull.
i have had several pitbulls and its the dumb ass people who cant take care of them and kids PROVOKING them that tend to make them bite. there are a shitload of other breeds that are known killers that people have that not shit gets said.
more power to the pits
I WUD JUST LIKE TO SAY I HAVE 4-PITBULLS AN THERE MY WORLD!!!!! SO FOR THE CHILD WELL WHERE THE HELL WERE HIS PARENTS? ONLY IGNORANT , UN INTELLIGENT PEOPLE WHO DON’T OWN A PIT … YU KNO NUTHING SO SHUT THE HELL UP!!! WHAT ABOUT ALL THE ANKLE BITTERS?
Why am I not surprised.
YUR JUST AN IGNORANT DOUCHEBAG WHO HAS ABSOLUTELY NO KNOWLEDGE ABOUT THA PITBULL BREED!!!! IT’S NOT THA DOG IT’S THA OWNER AN THA WAY THEY RAISE THEM!
Hey, Mensa — you do know that it’s spelled “the”, and not “tha” right? You do understand what that you come across as…well…a bit less than “well educated” when you write the way you do, don’t you?
who tha hell is mensa? an yu can spell it the or tha. who gives a shit how ya spell it.
I like how everyone that has trouble spelling coRRectly has to be stupid.
everyone has a gift and some are just here on earth to point out what others do poorly.. glad to have everyone on board here..
It’s always the ignorant, that claim others are.
No, you are not only marginally literate, you are wrong about this sorry excuse for a dog. They have demonstrated far too often they will not only attack people and other animals without provocation, but their own family members, as well.
The damage these dogs, being such a small percentage of the dog population causes, is disproportional, and contradicts any claims that it is the owners, not the dogs, but as I am witnessing now, I’m beginning to suspect, the owners aren’t outstanding examples of their species, either.
MR. COOPER,
I would like to know what it is that you do to better the world?…other than bitch and complain about topics which you are seriously uneducated about. After glancing at the other retarded articles which you have written it seems to me that you are simply looking to get a rise out of people and make them angry- which really does not help your cause or do any great service to our world. Its people like you that make this world sad and its people like you who have probably beaten their dogs- either breaking down their personalities and making them scared little creatures or in a worse case scenario- a violent dog that just wont take shit anymore. you probably beat up your wife or girlfriend and probably your children. You obviously are not a member of MENSA yourself and are a sad example of an American. It does not take much or a brain to simply recycle the moronic rants and raves of people like Glenn Beck and Bill O’Reilly. As far as bashing people for spelling or grammatical errors when writing to tell you off is trivial. Most people are heated and emotional and probably feverishly typing to tell you off. The fact that you know how to use spell check and understand the use of syntax and semantics does not make you morally superior. This breed is the true American dog. General George Patton, Teddy Roosevelt, Helen Keller, Jack Dempsey, John Steinbeck, as well as countless others were proud owners of Pit bulls. Educated people and better examples of what an American is than you. Volunteer, do something constructive to help the world and be a real man instead of a whiny bitch. Its surprising to me that you have a college education, but obvious that your a southern redneck. I do respect the fact that you served in the military but it ends there. It is the “liberal” media that has created this problem in the first place- with their pick and choose method of what they air on the news and flowery way of enhancing stories to get ratings. The left and the right are equally guilty of spewing such filth. The fact that your whole page is bashing “liberals” proves the fact that a college education does not equal an educated person. Come on, we know there are people out there, Americans with college educations who cannot speak correctly or English at all, have no social skills and obviously no common sense. Anyone can be a writer. you do not need a degree for that. Since you say you are a “professional” writer it would be interesting to see what or if anything you have written has been published…Or- simply are you a “professional” blogger? There are plenty of those on myspace and facebook including my pre-teen neighbor. Sadly your time spent in the military did not provide you with any education of other cultures or true empathy for life- human or animal. Ironic you were a medic. As far as your argument that these dogs have a history of violence shows you really did not do your research enough. You are not going far back enough… the last 30 or so years does not really count as history- the issue of dog fighting really blew up in the 70′s and the use of “liberal” media (which i may add is where you are deriving most of your information from)is where most of this “pit bull” reputation has come from. The word “pit bull” is a matter of semantics as well. Several breeds are grouped into this category,American Bulldog, American Pit Bull Terrier, American Staffordshire Terrier, Staffordshire Bull Terrier,Bull Terrier, Mini Bull Terrier, Bull dog and others fall into this category. Do you own a dog and what breed is it that you own? A Rottweiler perhaps??? Doberman, Mastiff??? A big biker like you I am sure does not drive around on his Harley ( i do hope it is a Harley you drive- being that your such an American)with a Bichon Frise in a basket on the front. Look up their ratings in temperament tests and compare to that of a pit bull. Remember back in the 1980′s when Dobermans were all bad killers- what-they are miraculously all gentle creatures now? OHKAY *rolls eyes*. The media has simply something new to focus on at the moment. The pit bull breed is simply victim of men like you with little dick syndrome….the type of people who bred this dog to be bigger, beat them to be badder and fight them to feel tougher…the type who need to hurt something or destroy it simply to prove their manhood. Im sure your dick is little on that bald, fat little body of yours and thus is the reason you feel compelled to write such nonsense.
You can say what you will about these dogs – that is your right- (one of the great things about being American) … You can hope that they are all destroyed but the next little dicked idiot will step up and just pick another group of dogs to exploit. Dogs are like people. There are good ones. There are bad ones. This just happens to be a strong breed of dogs that in the case of there being a bad one, it does more damage than a rat terrier can but cant possibly compare with other bigger stronger breeds-Id bet on a Cane Corso or Mastiff or Bordeaux or even a Great Dane doing equal or if not more damage as far as hurting people. Lets just eliminate dogs all together. But that would be too liberal of an idea, like the Canadians banning the breed in Ontario … since liberal motto is- if you cant fix it, eliminate it… like getting rid of peanut butter in school cause one stupid kid has an allergy. Extremism is dangerous on all sides and you sir are an Extremist. So while people like you who worship the ground that Rush Limbaugh walk on (its okay -the oxy contin was prescribed) are allowed to walk the earth- I am PROUD to be college educated AMERICAN, Yankee, supporter of the troops,world traveler, plasma doner who finds time to volunteers to feed the homeless, classically trained pianist and ballerina, not LEFT OR RIGHT politically, PROUD PITT BULL OWNER who THANKS GOD THAT SHE HAS THE RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS AND IS A PROUD GUN OWNER WHO WISHES SHE COULD SHOW IT TO YOU PERSONALLY REAL UP CLOSE. Maybe you should grow up, get some real balls, do something better with your time than sit on your fat ass wasting it on the crap you spit out now. Go volunteer in a food pantry, read to old people- DO SOMETHING TO HELP the world seriously…actions speak louder than words sir.
MR. Cooper i hope you get it in the pooper.
Sincerely,
Lauren Buchalski
btw i still hope that you get mauled to death by a pack of rabid chihuahuas.
Im going to say this in Robbies defense not that he needs it he can well take care of himself. BUT
I spent time with Robbie, his wife and thier 3 dogs. Some children would be so fortunate to be taken care of the way thier dogs are.
You have your opinion and Robbie and N2L has his and I have mine. You will not change their opinion of the breed. I happen to like the breed, but that is me, really i like all dogs.
When my husband and I were dating his mother had a pit i was sitting on the bed feet dangling over it bit my foot clamped down and wouldn’t let go some years later his mother insisted we get a pit he worked nights I was pregnant and home alone at night against my better judgement we did we did everything right socialized her obediance schooled her she seemed like a good girl until she got loose ichased her down and she already had a child cornered did not bite thank god she backed down when I called my husband and I made the decision to humanly put her to sleep. 14 years and5 kids later we have a 200 lb. Newfoundland who is sweet and gentle who for ten years has put up with what little kids do to dogs. Iwould never get another ticking time bomb
ONE MORE THING MY HEART GOES OUT TO THE PITS FOR BEING SHOT!!!!!!! RIP BABY’S
Yo, the dude that posted this is a moron.. You Post a picture of a pitbull showing his teeth to prove a point?? Hey jackass anybody can post a picture off the web.. By they way I have 3 kids and a 2 pits there very good with my kids and the neighbors kids.. So hey you un-sagacious un educated son of bitch do some research before blogging like a homo. You posted something wanting to get a rise out of pitbull owners and to express you bias feelings. SERIOUSLY DO YOU RESEARCH YOU LOOK LESS LIKE A DUMBASS.. WOW your the most ignorant fool in the world but your ignorance will catch up with you. But hey guys lets focus more on the pitbulls and forget whats all going on around us. I take it you have a hard on for pits. LOOK IN THE NEWS FOR ONCE SON, by the way grow some balls and maybe a brain before you start blogging.. Punk ass kid
USMC
Sgt. Cors.
You are ignorant. Look up dog statistics, it will prove everything you say is wrong. Stop talking about a breed you know nothing about. Its people like you that need to start doing more research and stop listening to the bias news media. By saying every Pit Bull is aggressive is like saying every white person is going to steal or every black person is in a gang. Its wrong and ignorant. Most Pit Bull attacks was for a provocked reason such such as a child harassing the dog. And many of the dogs that do snap are abused by there owners. Do some research and stop spreading hate speach.
MY pit bull is a rather sweet, dopey, fun loving dog. He’s never even attacked another animal ( and we live on a farm) let alone a person. It’s not the dog, it’s the owner that trains the dog to match it’s skills and personality to what the owner wants it to be. A pit bull will only be aggressive if it is taught to be. A pit bull will only attack if it is aught to do so. Shoot the disguisting people who breed and teach the dogs like this, it’s 50% their fault.
In my town,many dogs walk of leash you walk past the dogs and their owners saying hi etc and not a care in the world.
Then twice in 2 days a pit was off leash-and what did it do-chased me i had 2 climb on a car,teeth snarling away-was i scared you bet i was.
The next day,again the pit went from just wondering around to running after me, climbed on a fence,as it tried to jump at me time and time again,but alas it noticed a cat in an ajacent garden,and killed it.
As pits here,as i presume in the Usa aswell, are bred with other breeds, only pit bulls hear are distroyed,and that are bred with staff bull or jap akita are excempt.
i have had dogs all my lfe, and nearly 50 now, as any of my dogs bit,chased a human or another animal(no).
Pits full breed or cross bred should be taken out and shot.
hope you dogs have recovered Robbie
wow .. if only we could get rid of the morons as easy
Its sad when ignorant ppl ruin things for everyone else. My Red Nose PitBull is the most loving and wonderful dog I have ever met. He has never bitten anyone, he kisses and loves everyone. He is so sweet an mild tempered he has napped with a kitten. He is around children and toddlers…He kisses them and nothing more. Its SAD that some people have never had the opportunity to meet the sweet and loving Pittys they would just fall in love with them.
You guys are idiots. Pits Rule. And I am educated and not a thug as you seem to think all pit owners are. Do some homework
The author of this web page is an ignorant jack ass. He has nothing to back up his ‘facts or points’, whatever this nonsense is. First off, ‘pit bull’ is not even a breed you dummy, it is a label, much like calling someone the N- word. You could have 50 people walk down the street and name the ‘pits’ and your going to get 50 different answers. Here is a FACT for the author, not one DNA tested APBT that has been nuetered and was a ‘family dog’ meaning it was not tethered outside for more then 12 hours a day, has EVER been recorded as killing a human being. People need to be a little less close minded and a little more critical of what they ‘know’ and hear from the media. Stop being a sheep. -not bob levy
I just want to say that I understand both sides of everyone. Growing up, my family had always had labs, I met my husband when I was 18 and we talked about what type of dogs we would own when we bought a house. A pitbull type was never in our minds to have as a family pet. We always said we couldn’t trust them, they could turn on you, and all the other bad stuff that you hear. We adopted 2 cats about 4 years ago and made them a part of family and when it was time to get a dog they were in the back of our minds. One day about 9 months ago, we walked through the SPCA. We saw a pitiful sight, a small dog, no more then 5 months old, with every bone sticking out of her body, cuts all over her, and bandages on her tail. I instantly cried when we saw her and my husband and I both knew we were adopting an American Pitbull Terrier that day. My husband and I are not thugs, we are educated and work hard for everything we have in life. We have spent a lot of time working with our new dog. We have had her for about 9 months now and its hasn’t always been easy. She requires constant training, constant socializing with all humans, dogs, kids, and everything you could imagine. We take her everywhere with us, we have enrolled her at doggie daycare where she plays with up to 25 other kinds of dogs for hours! I must say that as a bully dog owner, you have to be willing to go beyond the normal idea of responsible dog training because it really is so much more then just teaching to sit and come, its so much more on a day to day basis. We have friends with kids that come over all the time and our pitbull lets them pull her tail, take bones right out of her mouth and licks their faces til we make her stop. She goes swimming with them in the kiddie pool, she lets our 2 cats sleep with her. We could not have asked for a better dog in our family. Our dog is one of the greatest decisions we have ever made and she has definitely made an impact in our lives. Pitbulls and bully breeds are not ideal for everyone, and that is where the greatest tragedy is. A lot of people want them, a lot of people breed them irresponisbly, and a lot of people do not have the time or energy to properly train these great dogs. Everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion, but just as we would human beings, each case should be done on an individual basis, not a stereotype of an entire breed. Bully Breeds can be wonderful dogs, but it does require a lot of work, socializing, and training to help them become that way. We love our baby, and wouldn’t trade her for anything else in the world!
I saw the Dog Whisperer the other day and he went to a home with a Pitbull that was agressive.
Watching him with that dog was amazing!
Of course, as you stated…not all people are able to effectively own and train certain breeds correctly.
Ah..If we could all be like the dog whisperer…
Haha, I love the dog whisperer! We utilize many of his tips and advice everyday!! Plenty of exercise in different situations and firm discipline followed by tons of love and we have turned our previously abused and neglected bully into a wonderful family dog! He works wonders!! We could all take a page or two from Cesar’s book of dog training!
There was one thing I thought was very interesting…when he can see that a dog is not treated like a pack animal but rather a member of the family, the dog can be confused and try to be the leader which can lead to bad behavior or even agressiveness in regards to protecting his/her territory from outsiders…by teaching the animal that the humans in the home are the leaders of the pack, this stops that behavior…in extreme situations, he would take the dog from the home and put it in a pack situation for a while to change it’s mentality…that particular dog came home very relaxed and showed completely different behavior…really amazing to see!
Well, Sam, your pit is not even a year old yet. Guess what, sometimes pits don’t develop their adult temperament until they’re three years old, at which time, owners often witness a dramatic change in temperament including increased aggression and prey drive. You’re already experiencing the work, work, work for the pit to keep it from losing control. Its going to get harder.
By the way, you do a bit of pit stereotyping, yourself, in your comment. But its OK to stereotype TYPES of dogs that were SELECTIVELY BRED for specific jobs, temperaments, and looks. They’re not people, after all.
who wrote this article is a fucking idiot and doesnt know shit about the breed the apbt was bred not to be human aggressive only dog aggressive any dogs that showed human aggression were killed immediatly so get your fucking facts before you write a fucking article about the apbt i have had them since i was 7 and never been attacked and most of the time its a pitbull look alike that attacks a person and the stupid ass media just says its a pit bull to get more views ignorant ass motha fuckas
I have 5 3 are these demon dogs. I take them two the dog park to the store . No issues ever. My point is in AZ it states : Pursuant to Arizona law, if a dog bites, the owner is responsible regardless of proving negligence. Specifically, Arizona Revised Statute 11-1025.A states the following: SO basically instead of regulating the type of dog they make it assault if your dog is violent. Problem solved. Have any breed you want any thing goes wrong its your fault. NO hiding , Maybe the issue is being a liberal state like California where you coddle the idiot you should kill the bad dog and charge the owner with assault . THen maybe you would see less of these horrible dog incidents. Yes guardian breeds can have issues dobbies, shepards rotties pits , ridgebacks mastiffs. BUT you cannot regulate out a breed. GO AFTER the negligent owners . Kill the vicious dogs enforce rules etc. hell even enforce neutering or dog obedience . BUT at the end of the day if its becomes the owners fault. A huge liability of payment and court will curb the creation of horribly neglected and or abused un socialized time bombs.
Source.
I blame the dogs first and then those who show such poor judgment in owning them second.
there not regulated .. there banned . I am saying if all states made the owner fully responsible . aka an assault charge these numbers would NOT be so . You will soon see other breeds surpass them because the idiots are now switching to other breeds . DUE to the ban on pit bulls in many areas.. THey are now making other breeds(dogos , brazilian mastifs ,german rotties and the like ) there dog of choice to ruin . As with Denver co they completely banned pitbulls and if you look at there bite numbers they have went up not down .. can you explain that ? This is the city that made them equal to a handgun and the dog bites in the city have NOT declined.
5% of the dog population is responsible for 67% of all dog bite fatalities.
These dogs need to be neutered so the breed ceases to exist.
its common knowledge that of this 5 % of so called pit bulls 50 % ARE NOT even pit bulls . ON stopbsl.com it has been stated for years of people having there dogs confiscated in places like ohio and others that were boxer lab mixes . People paid thousands in court to prove thru DNA that there dog that has never harrassed or harmed anyone was killed because the jackass human society or workers .. are allowed to take any block headed muscular dog. If you google dogo , pitbull, staffshire terrier , ridgeback , Thai ridgeback , brazilian mastif , american bulldog .. The average racist American will say yep that dog is a pit bull . SO the 5 % does 67 % of the harm is a farce . I do believe in killing any vicious dog of any breed. ITS just not working having people who only love poodles and schnauzers dictate who can have what dog. And I know your answer yes but nice dogs are ok. Labs are nice dogs and in north or south dakota they make up over 50 % of the bites on humans.
If it’s common knowledge, show a link that comes from other than StopBSL.
No other dog does as much damage as a pit/pit mix. They were bred to be grasping dogs and that’s why they do so much damage. Chihuahuas bite more than any other, but they don’t do any damage.
And what is with the “racist” crap? I despise these genetic mistake of a dog and their owners, irrespective of their race.
I hope in between being so angry you hateful people find some good in today. Happy Thanksgiving. My pit bulls will be eating turkey all week.
And I hope that a misguided and uninformed person like you will be thankful for today and that turkey is the only thing they eat this week.
You do have a deep hate of any dog that is not of your liking. It would behoove you to seek psychological help. Did you by chance learn this behavior from a man with a small mustache in Germany ?
Reductio ad Hitlerum.
Conceding defeat from the outset?
http://www.pitbullsontheweb.com/petbull/findpit.html If you take the time to go to this link and look at these few dogs . You will possibly understand why the media states the 5 % of all bites occure by PITBULLS> its because 67 % of the time those 5 % are not pit bulls. Making the scale of which dog bites the most WRONG> but I am Irish and I have my entire life to banter back and forth about your anger issue.
BLAAAAAH-HAAAH-HAH-HA!
But your ip shows Tempe.
Since ethnicity matters to you, I’m 1/16th Cherokee.:lol:
For clarification purposes, I don’t hate these dogs. I hate what they do.
I think people that say pitbulls are bad dogs should raise one from a pup then comment its not the breed its the stupid people that raise them wrong
It’s many of those “pups” that end up ripping grandma’s face off when they grow up even when raised “right”.
What I dont get is why do you people hate pitbulls so much if you people get the breed taken away there is jus donna be another better breed please,stop your shit if your scared of the dog then thats on you pitbulls dont even have that strong a bite compare to some other dogs plus ya always show what the dog did never what the person did to make the dog angry an trust me I have seen dum ass people walk by dogs that was tie up an do stupid shit to bother the dog if u bother me I would punch u in the face guess the dog cant do that cuz he dont got hands
There is a great deal you don’t get.
Here is the image of the dogs from a surveillance camera of the two dogs from this unprovoked attack.
U people are dum pure stupid I got a yorkie that,would tear your face off before my pits
I know you have brown eyes, because you are so full of shit.
three dogs measured (an American Pit Bull, a German Shepherd and a Rottweiler) the average bite strength was 269 pounds of pressure, with the Rottweiler topping the group with 328 pounds of bite pressure.
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/canine-corner/201005/dog-bite-force-myths-misinterpretations-and-realities
Of the three dogs mentioned, only one is a “grasping” dog and it is the one responsible for most dog bite fatalities.
If you pan down in this video of the bull and the two dogs.. the bull knocked them both down and possibly killed them . THat one was laying in the middle of the road and the other in the grass. SO you point is what bulls kill dogs ?
I can post video after video of horrible abused kids.. I dont see anyone euthanizing humans. This is a lame duck 1 % scare tactic to enforce your idiotic point of view. Again I will point out you have to prove what dog is a pit bull .. There is at minimum 15 dogs that can be easily pointed to and SOMEONE says PIT BULL. and its NOT .!. Make a dangerous dog act . Enforce dog tags , kill the vicious dogs of any breed and make it a felony like Arizona did if you have a vicious dog that is gonna go after a kid. YOU cant blanket a type of dog that {looks pit bull} and round them up. I can breed a boxer and a bulldog and it will look just like those dogs in the video .. Keep trying ..there genius your almost to the daily Darwin award ..
You are a complete and total idiot.
Child abuse is a problem that we have laws for. No one is calling for euthanizing people or these worthless dogs.
Talk about spouting bullshit to enforce your idiotic point of view is just you projecting.
We already know, from years and years of documented proof what these dogs are capable of, mostly with their own family members, there is no need for further debate. Keep your little “sweetest thing”, as long as its spayed/neutered so the breed/types/mixes will fade away. In fact, that would be a great approach for people like you.
Now that everyone has complained about pit bulls so long .. just wait till you see these monsters the idiots are creating .. It was bad enough before when useless thugs raised outta control little dogs. I have been seeing more and more mastiff mixes that are 100 to 150 lbs 400 to 600 lb jaw strength and super aggressive. This guy was walking a monster yesterday YOU BAN one breed the idiots will just create another . ITS THE idiots enforcing this behavior . ARE you venomous, super intelligent, name calling liberals gonna ban all dogs by weight next ? Cause from all the stuff I have read I am a dumb inbreed jackass according to all your post .. so learn me sumthin would ya ..
So we should ignore a serious problem we know of, to prevent another problem from occurring?
You truly are an oxygen thief.
Oxygen thief huh well at least its creative and your just now completely attacking me for once. I am telling you that a ban like the ones in place currently in many citys . THAT I mentioned before have seen LITTLE changes in bite numbers / attacks . IT makes No impact. LOOK up alaunt , bandog , american bullys ,(85 ~130lbs) THESE are the dogs that are being engineered to beat all bans and BSL they are listed as mastiffs and bulldogs. THEY are 3 times the dog as any small 70 lb pit or pit mix . YOU cannot ban away stupid , YOU have to go after the owner for assault . Forcing or attempting to force responsibility of ownership.Or a comprehensive dog law of some type . Not telling an American no you cant do that ..like any of them will listen. If you ban lighters will you stop arson ? NO
STOP…OXYGEN THIEF!
NO2LIBERALS: you are an idiot!!!! This is not a worthless breed. There are no worthless breeds, just worthless people, like you. You should not be able to breed. In fact, I hope you can never bear children, or if you do, I hope they are struck with some vicious, killing disease, because I don’t want more cruel, heartless people in this world. There are no mean, vicious dogs, just mean, vicious people that try to make them that way. These types of people don’t know how to take care of or train their dogs. You shouldn’t voice your ignorant opinions unless you have actually experience the love and devotion these dogs can give. People LIKE YOU should be EUTHANIZED, AS WELL AS YOUR CHILDREN!!!!! And please cite to this “documented evidence” you ignorant POS. The only “evidence” there is, is bad owners and bad people like YOU! You are talking about dogs like my 3 pitbulls, they are my babies, my children, and I would save their lives over yours or anyone else’s anyday. I hope you are spayed/neutered so you can’t breed either and your bloodline will die out. Sooner than later I pray!!!
Fuck off.
That is all.
The dog breed with the largest head and widest mouth is the Mastiff, so it is perhaps not surprising that it has been recently measured as having a bite strength of 552 pounds-just shy of the bite force that the lion has
Doesn’t matter how strong a bite they have, they aren’t “grasping” dogs bred to attack and kill, dumbass.
bulldogs are grasping dogs and were used in bull baiting and dog fighting and still used to hunt boar ? DOGO argentena are also grasping dogs that are used (currently )to hunt wild boar to pulling it to the ground for the hunter . The poor women that died in the dog attack by san francisco was attacked by a mastiff ( presa carnio ) As one example .. Seems you slant all your attacks and arguments to one thing . wedge head , muscular dogs or any of a wide variety that you group into” PIT BULL dogs.” The Rottweiler according to a 24 year study is responsible for much damage and can NEVER be mistaken for any other breed. Making it very destructive. cause we all know any boxer lab combo is a PIT BULL right . Many stats are adaptable. Any dog used for security is gonna have higher numbers as well . Ohio in some county’s has even banned shepherds .. as well as 20 other breeds
100 people a year are struck and killed by lightning in the U.S. are we thinking that we should all hide inside as much as possible as well.
Nope, no need to hide, just take reasonable precautions, just as neutering worthless pit bulls is a reasonable precaution.
http://carnivoraforum.com/index.cgi?board=zoological&action=display&thread=1164&page=3
this is the MOST comprehensive list of bite studies done. PiT bulls are not even close to the kangel , the tosa , borberels ,rotties even lower then the huskey. Gonna have to ban a lot of dogs.
Bite force means nothing in this debate.
No other dog kills or maims more humans or livestock than pit bulls, they are “grasping” dogs, remember.
This guy’s BS will cease when his loving pet rips his kids face off…or, maybe not…
I don’t know, he sounds as idiotic as this guy after their “sweetest thing” killed his pregnant wife.
A Freak Accident???!
Woe is me the world could be filled with such stupidity…
The number of deaths of people wearing headphones increased from 16 in 2004-2005 to 47 in 2010-2011.
31 U.S. fatal dog attacks occurred in 2011.
AND not once have I heard lets ban head phones. or have I even heard this reported on the news .. HEADPHONES kill
I am quite sure you will have a smart ass this has no bearing comment but for comparison sake .. its funny that headphones killed 16 more people in 2011 then any type or group of dogs. strange.
I call Bullshit.
Show a citation from a reliable source that supports your claim about headphones.
I cant seem to post a link here.. http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com
fatal distraction: deaths of pedestrian wearing headphones on the rise
Once again, Bullshit. Not only for stating something you cannot prove, but for trying to obscure the truth about these dogs by even bringing up a non-related issue, an issue at best that is an example of free will by stupid people.
As for credible sources, here is an example from the animal friendly folks at Animal People magazine. This article(pdf form) was published on 26 Dec 2011.
in the 70s they blamed dobermans
in the 80s they blamed german shepards
in the 90s they blamed the rotties
now everyone blames the pittbulls .. It just might be the humans ..maybe
From the above pdf I posted.
So in that respect I agree with you, people like you ARE part of the problem.
I would like to bookmark this posting, “Pit Bull Open
Thread ? UrbanGrounds” on my own page. Would you care in
case Ido it? Regards ,Cecile
There is a certain “race” that really gives pitbulls a bad name. We have 3 pitbulls, along with a Carolina Dog, 2 min pins, and a rat terrier. They all get along great, and have not been raised together their whole lives. All the small dogs were introduced to the pitties when my husband and I married. I had all the small dogs and he had the pitbulls. My dogs’ age ranged from 2-5, and his pitbulls’ aged from 6-10. They get along great! We have never had any problems from any of them. They eat out of the same dishes, they play tug of war, they sleep in the bed with us, they curl up together, they play, lick each other, etc. We are one big happy “brady bunch” type family with our doggies.
Pitbulls have a bad rap because of ignorant, stupid, cruel, uncaring, horrible (and a bunch of other adjectives) people that give this awesome breed a bad name. No dog is bad, mean, cruel, or vicious, unless their taught to be that way by their irresponsible, ghetto a** owners. Dogs do what their “people” tell them to do, but only because they are so loyal and want to please. People should be more responsible. Don’t blame the dog. Blame the owner! Pitbulls are loving and caring just like any other breed of dog. The only difference is the people that have given them a bad rap are the people that use them in dog fighting, and try to make them mean, which is horrible, because they are really not like this. They are just like any other breed!!!!!! Its a shame that all pitbulls’ reputations were destroyed by an ignorant race that think pitbulls, guns, rims, gangs, and other thug-like activities and hobbies go together. A wonderful breed of dog should not be blamed for the cruelty and irresponsiblity of stupid “owners.” Some people should not be allowed to own dogs at all. Pitbulls are no different from any other breed. I get so mad they have a bad rap for no fault of their own, so everyone that has said anything bad about this breed on this website, you are totally mistaken. Why don’t you get your facts straight, volunteer at an animal shelter, hang around a responsible pitbull owner, or just try not to be so ignorant? If you have any questions, please feel free to comment and I will be glad to address your concerns.