Nancy Pelosi met with Pope Benedict XVI earlier today for 15 minutes behind closed doors — no press, no photographers.
The Vatican released remarks by the pope to Pelosi, saying Benedict spoke of the church’s teaching “on the dignity of human life from conception to natural death.” That is an expression often used by the pope when expressing opposition to abortion.
Benedict said all Catholics—especially legislators, jurists and political leaders—should work to create “a just system of laws capable of protecting human life at all stages of its development.”
I’m betting that behind that closed door, the Pope probably also informed Ms. Pelosi that she was going to hell. Straight to hell. And there was nothing anybody — not even His Eminence — could do about it now.
Simply put, abortion and Christianity — especially Catholicism — are incompatible. There is nothing about killing babies that is compatible with the teachings of the Bible and Christ. I don’t know how any person who purports to be a Christian in one breath can then turn around and say they support abortion. It’s like Bill Clinton saying he supports matrimonial fidelity.
Ms. Pelosi says she’s a Catholic. But she also supports abortion. Which makes her a pretty shitty Catholic. Kind of like every single professed Catholic who voted for Obama (who in turn voted to allow the murder of babies born alive that were supposed to be “terminated” before birth).
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If he didn’t he would be very remiss.
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This is all very rich coming from someone who professes to be agnostic.
I am agnostic.
That doesn’t preclude me from believing that abortion is an abhorrent and immoral act. My opposition to abortion isn’t on religious grounds.
Nor does me agnosticism doesn’t preclude me from understanding and respecting the doctrine and teachings of Christianity and of Catholicism. I don’t have to a nutritionist to know that broccoli and carrots are good for me.
You’re not really that obtuse, are you?
You don’t have any more right to question someone’s piety anymore than the pope or anyone else does. I know that’s one of the less attractive attributes of your average theist, but that doesn’t make it legitimate. I’m an atheist and even I don’t presume to know the degree of any particular theist’s devotion to whatever faith he or she claims. If someone wants to call themselves a Catholic or a Baptist or Muslim, why should that matter to an atheist or agnostic?
It’s another good illustration of your authoritarian mindset – you want nothing more than to control everyone else’s behavior one way or another, in a manner in accordance with your personal code of ethics. Even to the point of denying people ownership of their professed faith. Your hubris and arrogance know no bounds.
I don’t think I’ve ever posted a response to one of Pat’s postings’ but the shear stupidity of the above post just stunned me. It not only IS the Pope’s “right to question someone’s piety,” it is his obligation as the head of the Catholic church. Catholic’s view the Pope as God’s appointed representative on earth. In the Catholic church, the word of the Pope is as the word of God. He is responsible for leading the church and unifying the faithful around the word of God. Belief in the tennets of the Church is not like choosing a meal from a cafeteria line. You either are a believer or you are not. Anything else is lip service.
I had sex with Pat dressed as the Pope and Pat was a cardinal.
Jonny
Lol!
Hmmm…did Jesus tell anyone in the Gospels that they were going to Hell? He did warn about the possibilty through parables, but did he specifically tell a person that is where they were going? If so, please expound.
So what are you yapping about? That there is no hell? Or that the Pope is Jesus?
Brian, here is my take on it:
I dont think Jesus ever told anyone they were going to hell. If anything, just the opposite. When Jesus died on the cross, all sins were forgiven. This includes future sins. Also, there is no filter, and the forgiveness includes all of mankind. We all get a free ticket courtesy of Jesus. Since he paid the price for admission, no one has to lift a finger. So, it seems that even Nancy Pelosi will be going to heaven via Divine grace
Anonymous – There is a hell, but nobody is going there.
Iam shocked the Pope isn’t excommunicating Pelosi and all the politicians who straddle the fence and think that Heaven doesn’t see. Why doesn’t he refuse them Holy Communion? They are not in Communion with the Holy Lamb of GOD-give them not HIS BLOOD and BODY. These are Holy things not to be given to the smug and profane and unrepentent. What is wrong with the Pope-what is he waiting for?
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