The most deadly dog in America
The previous pit bull thread (here — a story of a 7-month old baby in San Antonio who was mauled and killed by his grandmother’s pit bull) has more than 200 comments, so I’ve closed the thread and started a new pit bull post here to continue the discussion.
My stance on pit bulls is pretty clear — I hate the breed, and think that they should be banned and destroyed. I think most owners own the dog for all the wrong, macho, thuggish reasons.
Obviously I understand and know that not all pit bulls are bad dogs. In fact, the vast majority of pits will never attack or hurt a person or another animal. I also understand and acknowledge that not all pit bull owners are thugs, tough guy-wannabes, white-trash rednecks, or morons. Though I think most are and most have these dogs for all the wrong reasons.
With so many other fantastic breeds to choose from…dogs that are friendly with children, lovable, and loyal — why choose one the one breed that is MOST LIKELY to kill your child?
Typical Owner
I think most (not all) owners are a lot like David Holland of Norwich, NH:
David Holland owns the dogs and says they got loose through the back fence. He says neighbors should have told him they were loose.
Holland: “Why she didn’t report it to me or call the police, like they usually do.”
News Channel 8′s Bob Wilson: “So they call the police on you?”
Holland: “Yeah, they call the police on me all the time.”Holland was laughing and joking looking at the yard smeared with blood. Police say they have been called to the house 28 times and the history extends past today’s two dogs. Investigators say their parents were put down after a vicious attack on a Meals on Wheels driver.
Wilson: “What do you say about the dogs?”
Holland: “They was protecting this house.”
Wilson: “From a mailman?”
Holland: “I came outside and he was hitting them in the head with a chair.”Witness say the postman was across the street at a neighbor’s house trying to get the chair between him and the dogs. Police say they have arrested Holland and charged him with the dog attack, but there could be more serious charges pending, including a possible felony because of his history.
Wilson: “Do you feel bad they got the mailman?”
Holland: “Of course I feel bad, who wouldn’t feel bad? It’s a grown man, like, if you saw the way he was screaming you would feel bad.”
Wilson: “You are kind of smiling.”
Holland: “I’m smiling because you pissing me the f— off.”The mailman has 22 puncture wounds, broken bones and needs surgery.
Pricks like this should be euthanized at the same time as their pits.
Stats Tell the Story
Hard to discount these facts on 2008 Dog Bite Fatalities
- 23 U.S. fatal dog attacks occurred in 2008. Pit bull type dogs were responsible for 65% (15). Pit bulls make up approximately 2-9% of the U.S. dog population.
- In 2008, only one U.S. citizen over the age of 3 was killed by a breed other than a pit bull. 74-year old Lorraine May was fatally mauled by her two dogs: an Australian shepherd-mix and a golden retriever-mix.
- 70% of the attacks occurred to children (11 years and under) and 30% occurred to adults (21 years and older). Of the children, half (8) occurred to ages 1 and younger.
- 39% of fatal attacks in 2008 involved multiple dogs; 9% involved chained dogs.
- 78% of the attacks occurred on owner property and 22% off owner property. All off property attacks (5) that resulted in death were attributed to pit bulls.
- 61% of the victims were male; 39% of the victims were female. Of the male victims, over half (8) were 3 years and younger.
- In at least three fatal attacks, a grandmother was watching a child aged 2 and younger. Two of these attacks occurred in Las Vegas; both involved pet pit bulls.
And from a longer, 20-year study:
Of the 27 people who died in from dog bites, 19 were children under the age of 15. The animal responsible for 3 out of 4 injuries involving youth under the age of 14 is the family dog.
These are family pets killing killing children in the family. Again, what sane parent with children at home owns a pit bull?
Recent Attacks
- August 13 — a 65-year-old man in San Antonio attacked by 2 pits as he was walking past a neighbor’s house.
- August 13: Upon entering the residence, officers found Carter Delaney’s, 20, body in the lower level of the house, the apparent victim of a mauling by the pit bulls. Near his body was a smaller dog, also appearing to have been killed by the pit bulls.
- January 15: 5-year old Cheyenne Peppers killed by 3 family pit bulls
- January 5: 9-year old Drew Heredia saves a 12-year old girl and her dog, a chihuahua-mix, from a pit bull attack
- February 10: Brenda Hill, 68, Attacked by Pit Bulls While Taking Out the Trash
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While I hate to see any dog destroyed, I understand the nature that has been bread into this specific breed causes their unpredictable and violent behavior. I agree we should ban the ownership of the breed, within the city at least. However, do gun laws stop felons from owning weapons they should not have. Not in the least. And the same people who ignore those gun laws are the same thugs that own pit bulls, so really the point is moot.
Thanks for the thoughts, Big Mike.
The posts about Pit Bulls and their owners are sometimes a conflict for me to write. I do know some outstanding and wonderful people (who don’t have kids at home) that have pit bulls. And I’ve met some pit bulls that really are very sweet and playful dogs.
I happen to have a Pit-Bull and also three children of my own, my dogs have been in their lives and so far the only physical contact is playful behavior, i think that the problem is over breeding, and the foolishness of owners.
You may hate pit bulls and that is your right.
Please go here:
http://www.petopitbulls.org and look at the entire site, including the free online movie.
It may not change your mind but we can learn from one another.
The best,
Cliff
No Cliff, I hate what they do, which is kill and maim far more humans than any other dog.
actually pitbulls only account for 5% of dog attacks so you might want to do your homework. If properly bred and properly treated pitbulls will prove to be one of the most loyal and loving breed EVEN WITH CHILDREN
No, Emma, it is you who needs to check the facts.
It’s time!
That a neighbor is subject to the training expertise and fence maintenance of a pit or rot owner, is not acceptable. How about a special license for special breeds. We had to call on our neighbors, who let their cute pit puppy run loose out front. Now 4 months later, it’s grown and wants through that wooden gate. It’s only a matter of seconds when they get loose, and a hapless child has no chance, when they try to pet it’s head and get caught in the death grip. Yes there are good owners, but no owner can say with 100% certainty their dog will not snap, ask any vet.
Your information is incorrect. They are not the number one ‘biters’ of dogs.
I’ve been a vet tech for over 20 years. I’ve seen many dog fights, with only 1% of them having a ‘pitmix’ involved.
No Kathleen, the stats are correct, it is your reading comprehension and your blind devotion to these dogs that is incorrect.
Once again, for you, and for the umpteenth time:
IT’S NOT ABOUT WHICH DOG BITES THE MOST, IT’S ABOUT THESE DOGS THAT KILL AND MAIM MORE THAN ANYOTHER.
Got it now?
Pitbulls are amazing pets. Almost 35% of Americans own pitbulls, and only 5% are the cause of most dog attacks in America. Don’t just assume all pitbulls are mean, and horrible animals. It’s ignorant and uneducated.
SMFP, you are completely wrong.
Pits account for 5% or less of the total dog population in this country.
The most popular dog, labs, are at 17-20%.
your wrong. according to animal planets ‘dogs 101′ the top 3 reported breeds for most bites inflicted on people are as fallows: 1)german shepard 2)chow 3)golden retriever. and you know why i believe them and not you? because they have a show on a huge cable network while all you do is write some articles online trying to prove pit bulls are mean probably just because your afraid of them.
Is your reading comprehension really that bad? We’re not talking about the number of dog bites. Since Golden Retriever is the most common dog in America, it stands to reason that a lot of bites are attributed to that breed, as all dogs bite.
But only one dog does as much damage and kills as often when it does bite — and that, missy, is the pit bull.
DK, are all Shit Bull™ owners as dull minded as you?
Didn’t you see what I wrote above, or understand it?
Read this statement, in bold, and try really-really hard to understand.
IT’S NOT ABOUT WHICH DOG BITES THE MOST, IT’S ABOUT THESE DOGS THAT KILL AND MAIM MORE THAN ANYOTHER.
They are not to blame, i dont know how many times people have to tell you, but they don’t know any better, its like if all of a sudden 3 year old children start shooting people because they are asked to by their parents too, do those kids have any idea what they are doing no they just want to please their parents, and the dogs case its owner
Which is it, anonymous, “they are not to blame” or “they don’t know any better?”
You have actually proven my point, the one I don’t know how many times I have made it.
The damage these dogs do is bred into them, to grasp and shake and tear and rip flesh.
Not all of them do, but it appears to be a crap shoot as to which one’s will or will not. You completely ignore the fact that most pit attacks are on family members, unprovoked.
As to your dissembling and nonsensical tale about a three year old going on a shooting spree, that is just schtoopid.
http://www.pitbullsaredangerous.webs.com can change a mind that is smart. Not a stupid one like all pitbull owners have.
i think whoever made this website is one big fucking idiot, you must not do ANY research! have you looked online what the most aggressive dog is…HELL NO you didnt. a cocker spaniel and poodle are the two most known to attack. i have 6 kids and 3 pitbulls that are all 10 11 and 12 years old.
And the fact remains that no other dog does as much damage when it attacks, or kills more often than the pit bull.
So, I’ll take my kids to the hospital for a few stitches from the poodle bite. You take yours to the morgue for their pit bull wounds.
Thats right jesse u tell them they dont know shit. They have probably never even owned a dog period.
I bet the German Shepherd Dog has that satistic beat!
That is so ignorant you shouldn’t want to take your kids to the hospital for anything nor the morgue. A bite is a bite.
Apparently, your retarded. Google PIT BULL damaging pictures and videos…the proof is right there…
They should all be exterminated…rabid monsters.
To clarify though, any violent animal should be put down…when I state all, I meant those that show they are capable of violently attacking…
the fucking people on this website are fuking haters if you treat your dog bad then its going to be fuking bad but if your nice which most people are 99 percent of the dogs are niec
I agree Jessie if these pit haters would just do their homework and get the facts they would come to find that german shepards, cocker spanials and yes even those lovable golden retrievers are among the top dog bites and like I said pits only account for 5% thats a little number when you think of all the dog attacks that happen. Oh and check this little fact out According to the American Temperament Testing Society (ATTS), the pit bull is no more vicious than the golden retriever or the beagle. The ATTS test puts various breeds through a series of tests dealing with unexpected situations and strangers. Dogs that possess any signs of unprovoked fear or aggression automatically fail the test. The pit bull passed with a high 83.9%, compared to the average 77% scored by other breeds. What do you think about that pitbull haters?http://www.pitbullproject.ca/ this is the site has a lot of other interesting facts and info.
We’ve all heard the same bullshit you are spouting countless times.
So, for the umpteenth time, it is not about which dogs bite the most, it is about this type of dog that causes most of the dog bite fatalities and maimings.
Get your stats straight, and get the story line straight.
Currently, you are operating without a clue.
there are lots of other dogs out there that can do just as much damage as the pit so why is everyone picking on this breed?
Oh? And which dogs would that be?
Once you answer that question, then here is another.
Did you even bother to read the statistics in this story?
/didn’t think so
They did it to the rottweiler, the doberman and the german shepherd; now they are doing it to the pitbull! Breed’s of dog don’t bite people, individual dogs of all breed’s do! At the end of the day, it is a parent’s responsibility to make sure their child is safe, no matter what breed of dog you have. No2liberals, I understand your point but how is the answer to wipe out the breed? Dogs are completely and utterly dependant on humans and it is up to us to teach them how to be a proper member of society!
I have a pit and even had 17 at one time. They are the best dogs u could ever have. Its people like yall that think u can just put an end to a breed like this. There are paintings of pitbulls on viking ships they where here be for u. Yea its bad when a child dies or gets hurt by any animal and some owners own them for the wrong reasons. But thats life. Any dog is deadly but u never here about those stories only about pitbulls. The way i look at it is if you dont like them move some where else where they dont have them. And i feel sorry for any official,person anybody trys to tAke my dog. I would die for my dog. i bet you all are democrats. It wouldnt surprise me if you were.
*yawn*
Scroll back to the top, click on the hyperlink, and inform yourself.
Cockroaches have been on this planet longer than Shit Bulls™ have, but I’ll bet you wished you didn’t have to live with them.
As long as you take it with you, go ahead.
What you and the other idiotic Shit Bull™ lovers fail to understand about the position Robbie and I agree on is, we don’t want anyone’s dog taken from them, we just want this type of dog to be required to be neutered/spayed, so they can no longer breed.
These types of dogs will just go away.
We’ll still be stuck with idiots like you, but perfection is an ideal that doesn’t exist in reality.
well sorry but it doesnt happen that easily, everyone needs to get over the fact that they will never go away… its acctually imposible to do that! but i got a few litters on the way so every “shit bull” lover can make pitbulls all over the world. my dogs were NOT breed for fighting theyre bred with much love and affection from 7 kids.. what the problem is everyone els are going to breed thier crackhead chihuhas that are to them the sweetest thing but really they are a bunch of mean little shits that try and bite everyone. a chihuaha can do more damage than my 90 lb pitbull …thats sad that you are such a dumbass and dont know anything about the breed. you are lucky you dont come across a stray pitbull bull, because i wouldnt want you to be licked to death. i have came across a hundred and only ever got a kiss from one. dont blame the breed blame the deed.. or owner
Jessie,
That you said all that, in the same sentence, tells me all I need to know about your twisted mind.
The problem is this type of dog, and obviously, the sick people that enable them.
here we go again… u are a moron!! smaller dogs are just as aggressive… and y are we all the sick and twistedones? you are the one acting like hitler trying to exterminate and wipe out an entire race, or a breed in this case…so yeah we’re the sick and twisted…..my bad. how old r u? grow up and get a life i’ve said it once and i’ll say it always don’t like the breed don’t own one. you have a choice of the breed u like and we love our pits and they are not going anywhere. don’t like them move to the small minded towns that have them banned. People fear what they do not understand or what they can not control in this case…get a life
Yep, here we go again, another Shit Bull™ zealot that believes this is about dog aggression.
Try, really-really try and understand this.
It’s..About..The..Damage..They..Do.
You like these horrid animals, fine, continue to do so. Just know there are many that don’t like them for what they do, and are working tirelessly to inform more people about what damaging and dangerous animals they are. Real people, that actually care about other people, and their children. It isn’t my intention to change the mind of a mindless Shit Bull™ drone. Based on what I’ve seen on this blog alone, I doubt most Shit Bull™ lovers could fill out a voter registration card.
I have to say I used to be scared of pits because what I read and see in the paper/TV. Until my girl friend got one after that i started breeding them 10 years ago. I have had so many pits. Never had any problems what so ever. It’s the ignorant jerk offs that don’t keep a eye on their dog and doesn’t discipline them. With a dog that has been bread to fight its crucial to give them love and train them. I like to play rough with my dogs I have been bitten 2 times in the face all by 2 different German Shepards. One ripped my lip in half the other took a tooth out. It’s 100% owners fault if dog bites them or someone else. Any one that owns a dangerous dog should go to a class or threw some sort of back ground check to make sure that not some ignorant thug trying to be cool in the hood with a vicious dog. Or a stupid dumb as** hillbilly red neck.
ok its not the breed, thats like being racist and saying get rid of all the blacks or something. All dogs should be spayed or neutered and not to get rid of the breed but to stop so many abandoned animals every year
Actually these dogs arent called “Shit-bulls” you shit idiot, this is a topic worth dicussing and yes i do agree that they should not breed these dogs because of the extreme amount of dogs that end up in the pound, and in dog fights, alot of people actually care about this breed, because they care about the futer and, what about the pitties that are first AID DOGS or RESCUE DOGS or SHOW DOGS you dont see them maiming anyone, if you dont know what your talking about you should’nt talk about it!!!! ?
Maybe you should be the one spayed or neutered? Are you GOD? Probably you are an atheist. Or wait you know everything and you are a scientist who gets paid to do research. Not!!!!
well if you will just look around you will find many death from other dogs than a pitbull i have seen some really grusome attacks from other dogs that dont seem mean at all. it ALL depends on how you raise a dog. like mine for instance, my pitbulls are all really old and are still sleeping in the bed with my kids. wouldnt you think after 10 of a pitbulls like if it was such a monster it would have already attacked? nope never hurt anyone. yes some pitbulls arent treated right and turn out to be mean… y do you think? because ppl HATE them for no reason, i would be pretty mad if ppl hated me just because i had the name of a pitbull. it is sad that ppl wouldnt give these poor animals a chance. EVERYONE deserves at least 1 chance.
what a bunch of complete morons on this thread..
Painful, isn’t it?
the only far way to make a law is for owners to take classes with there pitbulls and to be licensed to have a pitbull only certain people should own pitbulls just like certain people should own guns drive cars its a right and one that should be monitored ive been raised around pitbulls and theyre not for everyone several people that dont know how to handle there dogs or raise them make it bad for eveyone its a moral issue not statistical issue like everyone on here is trying to make it. the FACT is people need to be educated about the pitbull they own and be monitored by the law because to own a pitbull is a right and a privledge.
I am a PROUD owner of a two year old pit. these dogs are not bred to with special fighting instincts they are very loving and caring animals.It pisses me off when people portray them to be some kind of monster dog that just wants to kill every thing. Im not saying every pit is nice and loving because their are ignorrant owners that think its kool to make them fight what saying is give them a chance its not the breed to blame its the owners. if you would spend time with them then u would see they are very loving dogs. and as for their so called lock jaw it has been proven that their jaw is no different then any other dog, they just simply have more muscle then most dogs. and for the shitbull lover why dont u go get fixed so you cant have stupid idiotic kids.
i dont think the breed deserves to have a name slandered due to un responsable owners that use the power of the breed to scare!! i know several dogs of this breed that are brilliant family pets!! and you should never leave a child alone with any breed of dog! no matter what breed it is! it is not the breed of dog that makes its nasty its the OWNER!!!
So closed minded it’s pathetic. I’m 37. I’ve been raised around Pits along with my brothers and sisters, I’ve raised my 3 kids around them and have never had anything bad happen involving our dogs. My niece comes over just to ride our dog like a horse. When the dog gets tired she simply lays down and rolls over. Our dog is a well bred pure American Pit bull terrier. Bred down from generations of well mannered dogs. She has been raised properly and loves all people.Generations of Pits owned by family and friends result in the same type of dog. I agree that when pits bite it can be terrible but the percentage of bites from pits versus other breeds is very low. That’s even with Pits being lumped in with Bull terriers, Stafford shire Terriers, and any combination there of. If it’s a mutt and it’s got a little pit in it then the Pit gets the blame. THAT’S BS but that’s how they do it. If They ban Pits, they should ban a whole bunch of other breeds too. Starting with German Shepherds and all those little ankle biters that bite people EVERYDAY! Think before you speak and have an open mind.
Truely it’s not whats breed into the dogs. Regrtable to say the my pitbull was only 1 out of literaly 90 pups delivered by the same parents. Thats all the parents were for to that person.I
My daughter bout her for me 8 years after my last dog died. She is the first pit I’ve ever had. After about 6 years of having her I desided to breed her. Several of my kids friends came around with male lookin to breed. I kicked’em all out! They’d ask thing like, can she hold her own or has she ever lost? This to me is what fuels the fire to these debates. I bought a male from a friend who was a breeder although I knew her dogs sometimes weren’t sometimes so kind to each other. I feel that if they are raised with love that’s what you get. All my dogs pups were spoken for before the were even concieved. Primarily do to the fact that ever strangers enjoyed the way they interacted with each other as well as my grandchildran. By the way. I ran into the guy my daughter bout her from when mouse[ that's my females name] was 8 years old. She is sad to say the only 1 still alive out of about 100 pups plus mom & dad. I managed to keep all there babies close to home. We see them regularly. Yes I got both my male & her fixed after that litter. I have had best guess 75 veryuos breeds of dogs growing up over the years. There is no way to choose 1 over the other. Love is the ansure. [well that & don't be afraid to spoil each & every one]
hi,i am 20 years old and have a pitbull.I’ve had her since she was a puppy for 2 years. never had any problems with her. i moved to my parents house about a year ago, where they a the time had 8 orther dogs: 13 year old Austrian sherperd, 3 year old toy puddle, 2 year old german sherperd mix and 2 year old retriver/chow mix and 2 year old lab mix, 1 year old jackrussal, 1 year old chiwowa. well i moved in with them and ofcourse brought my dog with me. my pitbull dose great with other dogs, no sign of aggression. This has gone on between a 7 month period. but out of no where she attacks my chiwawa. everything is ok for about 3 weeks, later we find out shes pergant. so we come to though that maybe she attacked because she was in heat. we leave it alone she goes into laybor and has 10 beautiful puppies. now that she has her puppies she has come out to be a big bitch. she has brought out her aggression on my mother 2 year female lab/chow mix and only her. i tell u this dog is the most sweaties most lovable-go-wid dog. and she only attacks the lamb,oes striaght for her. my pitbull has to go! but i love my dog, ive train her as puppy to give me your paw, she know to walk by your side when shes on the leash, also know her bowl when we call her to eat. i say this isnt my dog but how if ive taken care of her. before the attack my mom would spoild her by letting her sleep on the bed, witch my mom never let any of her orther dogs sleep on. can someone tell me what i should do i rally dont want to see her in the pound or worst put to sleep my baby is a great dog. hat do u think went wrong?
If you really did any research on the breed you would realize most of the things you are writing about the breed are comletely false and you would feel like the fool that you sound like.
This Holland guy should be given a criminal charge just as if he did this Himself because he basically did.
“but there could be more serious charges pending, including a possible felony because of his history.” ????? What?! Possible?!
Idiot neighbors should be charged too for not doing THEIR jobs of making sure Hollands fence was kept up and functioning properly so as HIS dogs can’t get out and do such a thing!!! Damn them!!! I’m ALWAYS having to mow MY lawn because MY neighbors are to fricken lazy to do it god damn it!!!!!!!!
This breed of Dogs need to be extinct! Their existence is senseless and has cost innocent HUMANS their “Right” to live without harm.
Strap that dog AND Holland on the table and lets be done with that waste of absolute garbage.
you need to be extinct you close minded idiot. everyone shouldn’t be punished because of the irresponsibility of other idiots. Dumb ass. Maybe Holland and HIS dog should be put down but the millions of other people and their dogs have done nothing wrong. As long as they are responsible they should be left alone.
(I had never seen any comments to my post till just now)
Gee MARC P, I didn’t know you felt so strongly. I’m sorry. Now that you have made such a strong rebuttal, I am now a changed man! I mean, calling me a close(d) minded idiot and a dumb ass certainly has changed MY view on the matter. I mean with such a profound argument with name calling, who could NOT switch opinions?
Tell you what MARC, I’m with you now. I will ignore ALL statistics and peoples experiences they have shared here because I want to be YOUR friend. Your so smart..Strong too. You’re 37, you have 3 kids and a doggy that you just love to pieces, add to that your educated use of name calling tells me you’re a stand up , intelligent kind of guy! I sure hope we can be Buddies! Can we MARC? Can we? Boy, I sure hope so.
LMFAO! HAHAHAHA!!!! Good one!
You’re about this person needing to be held accountable for his dogs actions. After all had he kept the fence in repare this would never of happened. I personaly have been bitten. The dog new me. I had lived there with his owners for several months. Never was this dog allowed in the house. I did interact with this dog quite a bit. How ever once he was allowed out front off leash with his master rite there. He managed to bite me in my side as well as rear. It was so fast they thought he was greating me. No warning! No vicious sound. Did I mention this dog was a GERMAN SHEPARD!!!!!!!! It’s all in how they are treated & raised Not the BREED!!! Years later I recieved a pitbull puppy from my daughter. This dog 11 years later is as ever breed I’ve ever had the most loving{even of srangers}frindly creature. She’s now concidered a therapy dog. As 1 of my nephews has downsyndrome & my best friend is in a wheelcair.
My grandchildren’s dog Emerson was killed today by the neighbor’s pitbull (one of at least 4 that they have in their backyard). I hate this breed of dog and want to know what has to be done in order to get rid of them?????? How many more children, adults, and other animals have to be killed before people wake up!
Kathy, my sympathies.
I have grandbabies too, and when they are hurting, I am in excruciating pain.
I don’t know which state you live in. It does make a difference, as some states have more stringent laws on dangerous dogs, and on dog bites.
Here is an excellent source of info from an attorney that works on dog bites and dog bite law.
More citizens who have experienced the wrath of this abominable dog need to get active and harangue law makers into action.
Kathy,
I do have deep sympathies for your loss. However, I must disagree with your stance. Anyone that is actually trying to ban these dogs or agrees with it obviously are uneducated about the breed. Little Emerson could have been killed by a lab, a dalmation, etc. would you want to ban them too? i also am willing to bet lots of money that you feel this way based off of that experience and the stories in the news which are usually full of untrue facts. your loss is very sad. but its even more sad you want hundreds of thousands or even more innocent dogs to die.
What a pathetic attempt at obfuscation.
The FACT is, her grandchild’s pet was killed by a pit, just as too many other pets and livestock are, along with far too many killed and maimed humans.
No2Liberals you define faggot. Blogging is gay get a job. Stop looking up intelligent words on dictionary.com and typing them into your sentences. People like you make me sick. You used the word dang. That is not a word so don,t make fun of anyone else. Asshole.
Scoopedupdoodoo,
So you will know, a comma isn’t an apostrophe.
/danged dipshit
heh..lol..scooby doo doo aka dogshit is a moron..
Maybe yall should watch your kids and there pets better. You probobly dont they just go and do what ever they want as long as there not bothering u am right. Did the dog die on ur property or theres.
What the hell are you talking about?
That is true there are so many people that don’t watch their kids. They are to busy drinking beer or watching T.V. My dumb ass neighbor across the street comes out with a beer in hand and small child that barely can walk to get the mail the kid is bobbling around in the middle of the street. The guy is walking back to the front door. Then he finally noticed his kid was in the street.I live in a very nice development but man these people let their kids run around like morons in the street. Its crazy because we have a lot of speeders that live in the development that are constantly flying down the road.
This one kid was crossing street on bike and a suv comes to a screeching halt. The kid didn’t even look at the car just kept on peddling. Plus the older sister didn’t even yell at her brother for not looking both ways before crossing.I swear some people are so brain dead. And then they wondering why there kid gets killed,bit by a dog or kidnapped. I’m not saying that is always the case but a lot of the time it is. This guy I know had a kid that drowned. All because they were always neglecting to watch their kid. The kid would run around with no supervision.
I take great offence to all above comments eccept them not watching thier animals & children. I am gay, live in a state were they’re only allowing the grandfathered in pit bulls. Thank goodness my dogs are leagal. When I see a pit bull that looks to youngor isn’t being handled in the guide lines of my town. I automaticly call animal controle[it's on speed dial]!!!!! They know me by first name. It’ not the BREED but the owner responsible. By the way the only dog I’ve ever been bitten by was a german shepard & the dog knew me!!!!!
Good.
No you aren’t, you are living in a city that bans them. The state of Colorado litigated to stop Denver’s ban, but failed.
Yes, and thank goodness in about 12-14 years there won’t be any more of them in one America city, with many more cities to soon join Denver.
And Donna, please get and use spell check.
I am sorry for what happened. My thoughts and prayers to your family. I do believe any dog that attached and killed, should be put down.
However, Why are we blaming a dog for the owners responsibility?
Idiot owners are the cause of ‘bad dogs’.
True, some people shouldn’t own dogs, let alone ‘pitbulls’.
You are sooooo rite. There are some people out there who souldn’t be allow any animal, let alone have children
my spelling may not be perfect, but I am a responsible owner who fallows the law. weather i agree with it or not! i don’t agree with it by the way! if every animal owner were to get there dog or cat fixed the shelters would not be nearly as over crowded. now only if ignorant people would not let thier kids run the streets. some of these problems could be solved. such as gang violence, dog fighting &drug as well as alcohole abuse that inevitably fallows.
Umm sorry person but you’ve got no idea what your talking about, THE ATTACKS FROM PIT-BULLS ARE FROM THE FOOLISHNESS OF OWNER!!!!!!!
I had a Pitbull puppy get killed by a German Sheperd. Guess that’s ok right? My kids were equally devastated as yours. Let’s get rid of German Sheperds while we’re at it. Let’s just eliminate dogs period. Nevermind the responsible owners out there. Sounds completely ignorant right?Get Real!
I feel for you and your kids but that’s a little drastic don’t you think. I hate German Sheperds but banning and exterminating them is unfair to the good ones and the responsible owners. THINK!
“what sane parent with children at home owns a pit bull?”
You’ve never met my children, have you?
If this doesn’t work, I’m buying venomous snakes.
ok…too funny!
I’m one of those sane people i’ve got 4 pit-bulls and 3 chilren. ?
That is hillarious….. My daughter bout my First pit bull for me. I live in a state were the ban is spreading. My dogs are leagle. We follow ALL the rules All the time. This includes walking the girls{mother & daughter} on 4 foot or less lease,muzzled,lead by a person 21 or older only, carring 100 thousand insurence on each dog,as well as $155. at the beginning of each year to register each dog & oh ya they must be fixed. Aswell as up to date on thier shots. If you’ve read some of my other comments you know the only dog that has bitten me was a german shepard that knew me. A few weeks ago the grandkids & I were out walking & I thank my luky stars my dogs weren’ with us. Because we were stared down by a boxer mix. No ower in site! This animal would not be swayed, it’s attention soley on myself, 8yr old graddaughter as well as my 2 yr old grandson. Animal controle was my first call. They were closed as is my luck! 911 was my next call. People did walk around that giving it a wide birth, but it still was intent on us. These kids are fearless as are all children raised around animals. The dog took of as the police arived 20 minutes later. They informed me animal controle had been triing to capture it for over two weeks. Before the kids & I would take anymore walks. I contacted animal controle[ who knows me very well. Due to the fact I turn in owners who don't fallow the law] to be certain that dog was apprehended. It’s all about fallowing the rules, being responcible pet owners,or parents! By the way I own 3 diffrent types of snakes. None of wich are poisonous! However the grandkids aren’t allowed to handle them without me presant……
Robbie, your quoted stats say “Pit bull type dogs were responsible for 65%” That’s the problem. What is a Pit Bull type dog? That’s several breeds of dog lumped together. (See here.)
Some people should not be allowed to own a dog. That doesn’t mean the breed is to be blamed. I owned a mixed-breed pit was a wonderful dog. Kids could pet him and he didn’t try anything with them. I was also a responsible owner & never let anyone near him unsupervised – but then again my mother’s dachsunds were handled the same way & they bit more people than my pit ever did.
Can a breed be bred into harmful habits? Yes. Should the breed be blamed? No. I think pit bull breeders need to manage the breed better – though I believe they’re doing that. It’s the chump thug breeders that are doing the damage & they’re not going to listen. (Same argument with criminals getting guns.)
Patrick,
The point is all those bites by little dogs didn’t do any serious damage. Pit bulls on the other hand have the history of being wonderful, stable dogs then suddenly attacking for no reason and doing a serious amount of damage the first time. That’s not an owner/training problem. That’s the traits of the breed. There is a reason why we have laws to control guns and none to control knives while there are steak knives in every home. Knives can cause death too, but they have other uses. A gun is primarily used to kill, and it can do more damage in a faster amount of time from further away. There is no good reason for having a pit bull. Even if you don’t have children yourself, what about your neighbor’s children and pets? And I don’t believe breeders or advocates of pit bulls are helping in any way. It seems all they want to do is allow for no restrictions of any kind and continue breeding these dogs when most die in shelters. The only reason that makes sense in that senario is that a larger pool of pits to pick from guaruntees you will always have “game” dogs to fight with.
actually, pitbulls are not known for being great dogs that suddenly go bad. that is the media’s false image that they are giving out, and it’s very obviously seeping into the minds of people who don’t seem to be able to form educated opinions on their own. pitbulls that have attacked are from irresponsible owners who have put these dogs in harsh conditions, locked them up, do not socialize them etc. and as a matter of fact i am a very proud pitbull advocate who has helped many dogs. i am a person with a heart of gold who is replying to a turkey with an obvious heart of stone :/ it is people like you that make my job that much more important-i give these dogs the voice that they deserve and do my best to protect them from people like you.
Oh BullShit!
These genetic mistakes have earned their deadly reputation.
THANK YOU FINALLY SOMEONE WITH A BRAIN!!!!!!!!! ?
i agree any dog can “go bad” but the media focuses to much on this breed.
Rat terriers, Dachshunds, Yorkshire terriers, Jack Russell, beagles, cocker spaniel, french bulldog, chihuahuas, miniature schnauzers, and shih tzu’s can turn mean (and I’ve seen quite a few).
They can be more aggressive than the larger breeds that are “aggrassive” such as pits, rotties, German shepherds, huskies, boxers, bull terriers, English bulldogs, Weimaraners, and Saint Bernard!!
You just don’t hear about all attacks that happen everyday…if we put down every dog that growled at a person or another animal there wouldn’t be any left.
They are animals such as (in no order)big cats,jellyfish, hippopotamus, the scorpion, bears, alligators/crocodile, elephants, venomous snakes, sharks, are most of the top 10 most dangerous animals but we aren’t running around killing them to extinction… we respect them and try to keep our distance. Believe it or not the #1 most deadly “animal” is the mosquito!!! You can’t blame dogs as killers when there are several more dangerous animals out there…even people kill more people than animals, it’s in some of our nature as well as dog…
Point is… i say if u don’t like this breed keep your distance…its as easy as that.
Equating any other dog or animal to the ‘pits’ has been tried many times, and is an epic fail.
It’s not about aggression, viciousness, or which dog bites the most, it is about the fact that no other dog kills and maims as many people or other animals as this type of dog.
The fact that this type of dog has killed and maimed so many that have raised them from a pup with love and training, further illustrates why they are being targeted for extinction. To represent such a small percentage of the dog population, yet be responsible for 59% of all dog bite fatalities is information that stands on its own without equivocation.
U.S. Marine Corps Pet Policy (MCO P11000.22) Bans Pit Bulls, Rottweilers and Wolf-Hybrids.
In the words of base commanding officer Col. Richard P. Flatau Jr. following Camp Lejeune:
The Colonel is correct, and this is the path of the debate on these dogs, get used to it.
Any dog is can be deadly but its always pitbulls they talk about. And im sure there have been attacks by other dogs but its easier to blame it on a pit.
Anonymous, you are in over your head here.
Any dog isn’t listed as the dog that causes the vast majority of dog bite fatalities. It doesn’t matter if any other breed attacks or bites more than the Shit Bulls™ do, it’s the fact that Shit Bulls™ kill and maim more than any other type of dog.
Yes, it is easy to blame the Shit Bulls™ when they are the type of dog doing most of the killing and maiming.
It’s not the OWNER!!!!!!!! It’s the breed! They think it’s a game, they don’t know what they are doing! Have You ever seen a Westie or maybe even a Lab being on the newz everyday about killing someone? PITTBULLS In the future are going to become illegal to breed!
Patrick, I agree with you, but I want to add “It’s the backyard breeders who have money in their eyes”, who are not good for our breed.
There are wonderful American Pitbull Terrier breeders who are very active with their dog.
Totally Agree! That’s why we pay a bit more money to get our dogs from reputable breeders. It’s the peace of mind knowing that they come from good dogs. Finally someone else on here with some damn sense! WOW!
15 fatal dog attacks by pit bulls of the millions out there. And of course we don’t even know that they were actually AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIERS do we?? because ignorant people classify all types of dogs as pits don’t they?
To the writer, act like one and not some moron who who just wants to throw his opinions around. We have enough idiots out there. It is not instilled in the American Pit Bull Terriers nature to kill. They are born like every other dog. Some are submissive, some dominant. People are more born to kill than dogs buddy. You don’t really have a clue about the facts you are presenting. I feel bad for every person bitten or killed by any animal and action should be taken but that family of the kid killed had child protection involved, probably drugs and most likely negelcted any breed of dog they would have had.
i agree with your statement on this topic, i believe that any medium/large sized dog of any breed or mix could inflict the same damage done, as claimed by the infamous American pit bull we are here to voice our opinion on. If the owners/thuggish or just idiotic immature nature’d humans were in fact, to favor these other breeds rather than the pit bulls themselves discussed here…they could possibly render the same punishable treatments done upon these misjudged dogs.Pit bulls are subjectively favored more as a tool for game and pleasure other than by different breeds of dogs.I’m sure if any other dogs had the same genetics as a pit, the numbers on that poll would differ.
WTH are you talking about?
The assumption you are so certain of, would mean that any other dog with the same genetics would also be a pit.
There is no comparison with this type of dog and the damage they do, to any other dog.
None!
pits are great, dogs in general are great. i wonder if robbie cooper owns a pet? he probably secretly owns a pit bull, hahaha that would make for some EXCITING NEWS!!!!
I own four dogs. None of which are shit bulls.
the fact that you choose to call them “shit bulls” says nothing of your intelligence…
First of all, it’s Shit Bull™, and secondly, it isn’t intended to. It’s intended to fully illustrate my personal view on this genetic disaster of a dog.
regards
youre a douche bag
SO WHAT KIND OF DOGS DO YOU OWN???!!!???
Cute. Does that mean you don’t own a “Designer Dog”?
No no, Bob, PITBULL i dont know what this shit bull thing you talk about is.
you are an ignorant fuck and i hope that you get mauled to death someday soon by a pack of rabid chihuahuas. i am a proud owner of three pit bulls and they are beautiful loving creatures. these dogs rate the same or better in temperament tests than labradors or golden retrievers.
These dogs also kill more people than any other, by a wide margin.
Wishing you the worst.
Tah.
GOD willing one of these “killer” dogs gets you soon. The world would be a better place with one less red neck.
Another example of the mentality of the Shit Bull™ lover, I see.
Well, the best chance of that happening has passed, as I was able to put enough pressure on the home owners association to ban them, and my next door neighbor had to either move or get rid of their two.
They are now gone.
At least my immediate world is a better place.
I’m with ya!!! Chihuahuas are the absolute worst! They bite people especially kids EVERYDAY! Yeah they are small and don’t do alot of damage but who wants to get bit or have their kids bitten by ANYTHING! WTH! They need to be banned FIRST! They are the meanest ugliest MFers around.
would like to know what it is that you do to better the world?…other than bitch and complain about topics which you are seriously uneducated about. After glancing at the other retarded articles which you have written it seems to me that you are simply looking to get a rise out of people and make them angry- which really does not help your cause or do any great service to our world. Its people like you that make this world sad and its people like you who have probably beaten their dogs- either breaking down their personalities and making them scared little creatures or in a worse case scenario- a violent dog that just wont take shit anymore. you probably beat up your wife or girlfriend and probably your children. You obviously are not a member of MENSA yourself and are a sad example of an American. It does not take much or a brain to simply recycle the moronic rants and raves of people like Glenn Beck and Bill O’Reilly. As far as bashing people for spelling or grammatical errors when writing to tell you off is trivial. Most people are heated and emotional and probably feverishly typing to tell you off. The fact that you know how to use spell check and understand the use of syntax and semantics does not make you morally superior. This breed is the true American dog. General George Patton, Teddy Roosevelt, Helen Keller, Jack Dempsey, John Steinbeck, as well as countless others were proud owners of Pit bulls. Educated people and better examples of what an American is than you. Volunteer, do something constructive to help the world and be a real man instead of a whiny bitch. Its surprising to me that you have a college education, but obvious that your a southern redneck. I do respect the fact that you served in the military but it ends there. It is the “liberal” media that has created this problem in the first place- with their pick and choose method of what they air on the news and flowery way of enhancing stories to get ratings. The left and the right are equally guilty of spewing such filth. The fact that your whole page is bashing “liberals” proves the fact that a college education does not equal an educated person. Come on, we know there are people out there, Americans with college educations who cannot speak correctly or English at all, have no social skills and obviously no common sense. Anyone can be a writer. you do not need a degree for that. Since you say you are a “professional” writer it would be interesting to see what or if anything you have written has been published…Or- simply are you a “professional” blogger? There are plenty of those on myspace and facebook including my pre-teen neighbor. Sadly your time spent in the military did not provide you with any education of other cultures or true empathy for life- human or animal. Ironic you were a medic. As far as your argument that these dogs have a history of violence shows you really did not do your research enough. You are not going far back enough… the last 30 or so years does not really count as history- the issue of dog fighting really blew up in the 70′s and the use of “liberal” media (which i may add is where you are deriving most of your information from)is where most of this “pit bull” reputation has come from. The word “pit bull” is a matter of semantics as well. Several breeds are grouped into this category,American Bulldog, American Pit Bull Terrier, American Staffordshire Terrier, Staffordshire Bull Terrier,Bull Terrier, Mini Bull Terrier, Bull dog and others fall into this category. Do you own a dog and what breed is it that you own? A Rottweiler perhaps??? Doberman, Mastiff??? A big biker like you I am sure does not drive around on his Harley ( i do hope it is a Harley you drive- being that your such an American)with a Bichon Frise in a basket on the front. Look up their ratings in temperament tests and compare to that of a pit bull. Remember back in the 1980′s when Dobermans were all bad killers- what-they are miraculously all gentle creatures now? OHKAY *rolls eyes*. The media has simply something new to focus on at the moment. The pit bull breed is simply victim of men like you with little dick syndrome….the type of people who bred this dog to be bigger, beat them to be badder and fight them to feel tougher…the type who need to hurt something or destroy it simply to prove their manhood. Im sure your dick is little on that bald, fat little body of yours and thus is the reason you feel compelled to write such nonsense.
You can say what you will about these dogs – that is your right- (one of the great things about being American) … You can hope that they are all destroyed but the next little dicked idiot will step up and just pick another group of dogs to exploit. Dogs are like people. There are good ones. There are bad ones. This just happens to be a strong breed of dogs that in the case of there being a bad one, it does more damage than a rat terrier can but cant possibly compare with other bigger stronger breeds-Id bet on a Cane Corso or Mastiff or Bordeaux or even a Great Dane doing equal or if not more damage as far as hurting people. Lets just eliminate dogs all together. But that would be too liberal of an idea, like the Canadians banning the breed in Ontario … since liberal motto is- if you cant fix it, eliminate it… like getting rid of peanut butter in school cause one stupid kid has an allergy. Extremism is dangerous on all sides and you sir are an Extremist. So while people like you who worship the ground that Rush Limbaugh walk on (its okay -the oxy contin was prescribed) are allowed to walk the earth- I am PROUD to be college educated AMERICAN, Yankee, supporter of the troops,world traveler, plasma doner who finds time to volunteers to feed the homeless, classically trained pianist and ballerina, not LEFT OR RIGHT politically, PROUD PITT BULL OWNER who THANKS GOD THAT SHE HAS THE RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS AND IS A PROUD GUN OWNER WHO WISHES SHE COULD SHOW IT TO YOU PERSONALLY REAL UP CLOSE. Maybe you should grow up, get some real balls, do something better with your time than sit on your fat ass wasting it on the crap you spit out now. Go volunteer in a food pantry, read to old people- DO SOMETHING TO HELP the world seriously…actions speak louder than words sir.
MR. Cooper i hope you get it in the pooper.
Sincerely,
Lauren Buchalski
btw i still hope that you get mauled to death by a pack of rabid chihuahuas.
Lauren,
You are an insane person. Pure and simple.
Seriously. Seek help. That you are a pit bull owner only reinforces my opinions of typical owners and the breed in general.
I feel likewise about you. Have a wonderful life.
Bob, your racist.
Lauren, i thank you… i agree with most of what you said.
I am also a PROUD owner of a Pit Bull, and she is the sweetest, most submissive dog i have ever seen…i have kept her well socialized and she is only 5 months old…we have played with german shepards, 3 reteviers that are my family members, 4 other pits,as well as several other smaller dogs and several of my friends children who are still infants..the worst i have ever seen my dog do is jump up and knock the kid over and then lick them silly. Not all pit bulls are these blood thirsty digs u make them out to be. My brother has a rat terrier that is FAR MORE (can not stress enough) aggresive than mine. U can’t punish the WHOLE breed when u have those that are bred to fight and attack. it’s the owners that need the punishment. My brother in law’s family has had several aggressive breeds since he was 2 and he has NEVER been bitten or attacked in any way shape or form…cesar millan a professional dog trainer has !!SEVERAL!! and they get along in a caged in area. Michael vick had the dogs fighting and was caught….if u ask me he should have been punished longer. he was involved and should never of allowed it!! People train dogs to do their fighting because they are not man enough to fight their own fights. You see boxers and these UFC fighter, they know what they r going in against. These dogs are just doing what they are taught, being obedient to their owners, humans do it on their own free will… Pit bulls have it in their genes to be very obedient, loyal, engetic, loving, playful, protective family dogs… it is all in how u raise them. take a class do u research before u raise them my puppy is 5 months old, luckily we have a 13 acre farm she can play in but alot of it is woods, we have rabbits, cats, roosters and a miniture begal she plays with…we can go on walkes and she’s never more than 20 ft away from me…she may try to chase a rooster from time to time but if i call her away she comes to me and stops, I trained her to be this way. It takes time and patience to do this and she is so very young to be doing alot of the things she is. She is more afraid of my sisters gerbil in a plastic ball…My uncle has it iin his brain that this puppy is the devil’s dog and will destroy the world. My father wasn’t happy at first but now he calls her silly willy lily…they share cherrios and she lays with him on the couch…now that he knows she will never ne aggressive because of the way i train her. i don’t let her get away with much…
I said it once i wil say it again and always…it’s all in the way you raise them…any dog can be mean and attack…even a lil Bichon Frise can be “EVIL”
No, it’s the dog.
Eventually, the rest of society will catch on and catch up.
While you deal in anecdotal information and emotion, the facts are passing you by.
Facts are passing me by…out of all of these articles do any of them say how many owners have NEVER had problems with their pit? u inly get the bad reports and most of those are from inner city neighborhoods where they are raised to be aggressive and to be guard dogs…u can read alot of bog magazines about an “aggrssive breed”, when we picked up a 1yr od pit/Weimaraner we did our research, there just happened to be a magazine that the main focus was you can’t bully a bully, displine is fine but to abuse, taunt, ect is just stupid for any dog… these Weimaraners have worst temperments then pits. Pits are born lovers, not fighter, they only want to make their owner proud and happy. My 5 month old puppy knows when she does something wrong i don’t have to yell or hit her… she walks to her kennel and she knows she gets a time out just like any kid…they are a very smart breed and if u keep the blood lines sperate u should have no problems in inbreeding which causes u’r temperment problem and such. Most military bases will ban these breeds as insurance b/c housing on base are for married couples/familys only most of the time. Military members go TDY for month @ a time and no one to care for the animal. There can be several reasons of why they ban the breeds it doesn’t always mean its because of just aggressiveness. If that was the case there would be no pets allowed on bases. I know first hand..
Clearly facts are not your friend.
I repeat from another comment.
You honestly believe this action is taken because of some news report?
It is taken because of the vast number of deaths and maimed victims of this dog, disproportional to the dogs population.
Your attempts to divert attention away from the destructiveness of this dog fails with me. I have no interest in weeny dogs or “aggressive” dogs, those are smoke screens.
One last attempt at diverting attention from the wisdom of the military for banning these dogs from base housing, is that it includes all base housing, which includes actual houses where the service member lives with his family(who don’t accompany them on TDY’s). Barracks/dormitories don’t allow pets at all.
oh and ellsworth AFB is the only one that has anything to do with an attack on a resident…just a lil FYI…
As usual, you are wrong.
I agree with no2liberals. dogs are a bad idea. they crap and smell and worse even kill! what pupose do they serve to the prosperity of the human race? or pets period for that matter? why have pets? eventually one of them will kill or maim something? the only animals that should be alive on this planet are cows and chicken cause I dont fuckin eat pork!! its written in the bible that animals have been put on this earth FOR mans use. then why keep an entire breed on this earth, if they offer no productive value? I’m even thinking of starting a ban on horses because of the possibility of getting thrown off. scary, i kno. lemme kno what u think.
oh please… the bible? You’re not seriously going to go there are you? No valid point begins with the words “it says in the bible”.
I was going to reply to the small minded coments on here but I think you cover just about everything.
That was intended for Lauren
btw you didnt answer the question of what Really makes you a good person. Its obvious you didnt actually read what was said. how “educated” of you.
if feeling passionately about something make me insane then i am fine with that, and that makes you insane too. i know that my post is a bit jumbled but im heated and addressing several things said which irritated me (blaming all the world problems on liberals in other threads of yours, bashing this breed and the people who own them and insinuating that we are all uneducated ”ghetto” type people. i do regret name calling and threatening language as that is a bit childish on my part but once again i just got ticked off.
it happens. i feel you are deeply misinformed on this subject. i do not agree with you on any of your other stances and strongly believe that you are an extremist and that is scary to me. terrorists are extremist too. i credit you for doing research on this subject but feel that you have not gone far enough. you need to look into the good as well as the bad. i am sorry that you hate these dogs so much. they really are wonderful dogs.
Lauren,
In your previous comment you accuse someone else of not reading and then mock his education. Yet you obviously do not have proper reading comprehension skills yourself. You state that the writer of the blog post asserts that all people who own pit bulls are ghetto-type people. Yet it is clearly stated and re-stated in the blog post that he does not believe that all pit bull owners are irresponsible thugs. He also states that he does not believe that all pit bulls are bad dogs.
Perhaps you should not brag so much about your own education if you cannot grasp the difference between the quantifiers “most” and “all.” By the way, I do not care what education you have, your language and behavior on this thread is nothing short of thuggish.
Lauren,
In your previous comment you accuse someone else of not reading and then mock his education. Yet you obviously do not have proper reading comprehension skills yourself. You state that the writer of the blog post asserts that all people who own pit bulls are ghetto-type people. Yet it is clearly stated and re-stated in the blog post that he does not believe that all pit bull owners are irresponsible thugs. He also states that he does not believe that all pit bulls are bad dogs.
Perhaps you should not brag so much about your own education if you cannot grasp the difference between the quantifiers “most” and “all.” By the way, I do not care what education you have, your language and behavior on this thread is nothing short of thuggish. If you were hoping to provide an example of a pit bull owner who is a fine, upstanding, moral, educated, and level-headed person, your attempt was an abysmal failure.
oh tracy how clever of you to try and discredit me with your comment- “if you cannot grasp the difference between the quantifiers “most” and “all.”” stating that most are is just as bad as saying that all are. petty and pathetic. your attempt at an insult was certainly an abysmal failure.
No, Lauren . . . There is a VAST difference between the quantifiers “most” and “all.” I am deeply concerned that you are not able to adequately distinguish between the two. I pray that you are only fourteen years old and still in school so that there is yet some hope for your future understanding and maturity.
Sadly, I do not have to say anything to discredit you as you are doing such a fine job of discrediting yourself. You claimed in your earlier response to me that you can admit when you are wrong, but your actions in continuing to post hateful comments are not backing up your words.
Hell yeah. Im with you about the Pits… (and hopefully the ‘american’ rides a harley.) What kind of person wants a breed to die? i mean so my dog has to pay for anothers bad behavior. id like to see someone try to take my dog from me. I wouldnt need her to kill them because id do it myself she wouldnt anyways shes afraid of almost everything.
Tracy,
thats fine. i admitted to my falt in the “thuggish” language. but find that a man who says -”Obviously I understand and know that not all pit bulls are bad dogs. In fact, the vast majority of pits will never attack or hurt a person or another animal. I also understand and acknowledge that not all pit bull owners are thugs, tough guy-wannabes, white-trash rednecks, or morons. Though I think most are and most have these dogs for all the wrong reasons.”
then in the next breath “Sean, do us a couple of favors.
First, if you actually do run a pit bull adoption agency(which I doubt), neuter and spay them before you send them out into the world. The sooner this deadly breed of dogs is allowed to cease existing, the better.
Second, please refrain from castigating others as morons. You are barely literate, and your epitaphs make my sides hurt from laughing.”
“Editor — Seriously…post like this one? You’re a walking stereotype of a pitbull owner. But you do lend some credence to your point that it’s the owner and not the breed. Enough so that I’m willing to conceded that it’s probably both.”
“You illiterate anger-ridden pitbull owners do more to make my point about pitbull owners than I ever could on my own. Thanks for playing along.
Then Mr. Cooper says he has friends who have Pit Bulls and they are nice dogs yada yada. So it seems to me that Mr Cooper is a man of condratiction. After his disclamer on the top he certainly insinuates in all over the previous thread on the subject about the type of people that pit bull owners are.
and you like other radicals focus in the smallest things. I am an upper middle class suburban white girl who wouldn’t know the first thing about being a thug. I can admit when I am wrong but still stand behind what I said before. You people are playing on peoples emotions and when you make people that angry they are going to say things that perhaps are not pretty. i wasnt bragging about my education but merely stating that i wasnt your “stereo typical” pit bull owner. I rescued these dogs from a bunch thugs who were trying to sell them as “fighting dogs”.
Lauren,
First of all, I do not hold a solid position on this topic. I read all new comments to consider other points of view while withholding final judgment on the issue of whether pit bulls should be banned. I do not own a pit bull myself, but I do have a sister and brother-in-law who own a mixed-breed dog that is part pit bull. I do find it ironic that, time and time again, the majority who post on here actually make the case for the side they are arguing against by exhibiting thuggish behavior.
I am not sure why you are assuming what position I hold on this debate. I do not consider myself a radical at all, but it is no skin off my back for you to make such an irresponsible and ridiculous assumption. You do not know me at all and, to be perfectly frank, I am very glad that I do not know you. The only thing you do know about me is that I took exception to your extreme profanity and the threats you publicly made on an online forum against a man’s life. I find it amazing and disheartening that you can call such threats just “a little thing.” I would define a radical as anyone who makes threats against the life of another person simply because they disagree with their opinion — not the person who calls them on it.
You may have issued an apology, but you did not offer a sincere one. You essentially claimed that the writer of the blog post was ultimately responsible for your behavior because he made you angry. I do not care how angry anyone makes me. I am the ONLY person who is responsible for how I respond to anyone or to any given situation — and threatening someone’s life is never an appropriate response.
If you have ever had any gun training at all, the first lesson taught is that you do not point a gun at any object on which you do not plan to fire. You also do not brag about your gun to others while threatening to “show it” to them “up close.” To do so is, quite simply, thuggish behavior.
Tracy,
you like Mr. Cooper missed the point. you focused on my misjudgment in language and totally ignored any of the content in my previous post. you cannot have an opinion on a subject unless you research the whole story. not just one side. but that would be a-typical of the radical right wing mentatlity.
As I have already said, I have not yet formed a solid opinion on the pit bull debate. I come here to read the comments and to ponder the points made on both sides. I am not even close to making a decision yet.
And, no, I did not miss the point. I was responding to your over-the-top profanity and threat-laden post that you directed to a human being who has the audacity to hold an opinion different from your own. I was reponding to that, as well as pointing out an erroneous claim you made about that person’s statements.
If you would like for people to take your argument seriously, please make an attempt to present it in a civilized, mature manner. You cannot expect anyone to take you seriously and to respect your point of view when you present yourself in such a manner.
oh pulease… if i showe up at his door with a gun then you can call me thuggish. to simply vent on something and being a little more creative than saying i would like to kick your ass is not. i ultimately am responsible for what i say, however when people are provoked about something they feel passionately about they may say or act in a manner which is normally out of character. This is exactly what Mr. Cooper wants and Im sorry I played right into it. So sorry, but I am a radical pit bull lover.
once again you focused merely on the last few sentences in my original post. and i am not continually making threats to anyone.
for you to focus only on my post is quite amusing as well. There were other people who said way worse than I. you do realize that this thread was a continuation of another?
Lauren,
I do not respond to every single comment that I read, only the comments which I feel compelled to address. While I am not obligated to provide justification regarding which posts prompt a response from me, I will, nevertheless, humor you.
Take a look at the upper right margin of this web page where it says “Recent Comments.” I check out this website a few times per week and I always read the most recent comments. Your comments just happened to have been highlighted when I checked this site.
Yes, I know that there are many other people who have written equally ugly and irresponsible comments, but I do not have to respond to every one. I do not have to respond to ANY post at all. I am free to address whoever is currently posting if s/he posts something that I would like to address.
Many of the people posting are not, as you phrase it, “upper middle class” people claiming to have benefited from higher education. That puts you at a higher level of accountability. As a white girl myself with a “higher education” (as you phrase it), I cringed to see how someone with similar credentials had chosen to behave in a public forum. I expect better of someone in your position who has had the wonderful opportunities and benefits you claim to have enjoyed. Many people have not had such benefits and may not know any better than to respond with profanity any time they feel offended.
Please do not waste the opportunities and benefits which have been handed to you. You should put them to good use. Trolling this site seeking to start fights with people you do not know is not a good way to put them to use.
I stumbled upon this site doing other research. I have never been on this site before and gratefully so. I certainly do not waste the opportunities that have been handed to me. I have an amazing job and am heading off to Europe shortly to help take care of my grandmother. But it certainly saddens me that this is a site where people are getting their information from- this whole site not just this thread. I cringe to think that this is where your getting your facts.
Do not make assumptions regarding where I draw my facts. I am more than capable of finding and researching legitimate sources of information on any topic which interests me. I am also perfectly capable of discerning a well-reasoned argument from a poorly-reasoned one.
I read this site primarily to follow the death penalty debate. But I also read it to discover other current hot topics of debate which I have never before considered (such as the “ban the pit bull” debate).
Any comments on a topic which I find interesting is only a jumping-off point for me. I do not take ANYONE’S word as the Gospel — I am simply too determined to form my own opinion to ever just quietly accept someone else’s. Yet I do carefully consider other people’s arguments — provided that they convey them in a thoughtful and logical manner. A carefully-reasoned argument, presented in a respectful and level-headed manner, is the highest form of persuasion.
do not make assumptions as to what use i make with the opportunities that have been handed to me. practice what you preach.
Yeah i have a pitbull an all white girl and id like to know have you ever owned a pitbull? or are you just going off stories you hear? I’ve had a jack russel and a golden retriever and neither were as sweet as the pitbull. Pits are naturally sweet dogs i mean they know how to kill yeah but can you name an aggressive breed that doesnt? Ban pitbulls? im thankful that people like you have no power over if i can keep my dog or not. They are so smart. have you ever taught one anything? i bet you havent because your nose is so far up in the air you couldnt. they are smart and quick learners. you teach them from an early age its only ok to bite their toys and not people they will do fine. how dare you tell me to chain my dog up. id much rather her be happy. and if you have a problem with the fact people own them and love them get over it. just because you dont like them doesnt mean anything. if my dog can play with my little 1 year old cat and get her ass kicked then thats crap your posting.
its not worth wasting your energy on. you have to consider the type of people your dealing with on here and what type of site your on. these people are sitting on their high horses with nothing better to do than point fingers and judge others. they blame black people and liberals and whoever they want to target at that moment. remember that God (whoever yours is) is the ultimate judge and all you can do is take pride and enjoyment out of what you do with your life, be the best person you can be and LOVE THOSE PITTIES!!! because if there is a higher power it will be that which is recognized, not these idiots blaming everyone else (people and dog) for the worlds problems.
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the radical pit lover.
id like to ban the breeding of dumb texans…
Hmmm, comment from 2009? I bet your Shit Bull has chewed you up by now….
Oh yes and did i mention i have a baby nephew an a toddler niece who love the pit? Granted they are never allowed around her alone but thats called being a responsible owner. i know what my dog is most likely capable of but im not teaching her to fight im teaching her no biting = good girl and a treat. blame a dog for being a dog?
banning them?
im sorry but this is sort of like
hitler saying that jews were the cause of the bad times
singling out one group of dog
human religion whatever is wrong.
Kill my dog and others? you should be ashamed of that statement.
people need to be responsible for their own actions… instead of blaming everyone else and making laws. like helmet and seatbelt laws. if you want to ride one without it and you crash and become a vegetable thats YOUR fault. if you want to eat at Burger King every day and you die from a heat attack thats YOUR fault. the people who argue this subject (on this page at least) (i am making ASSUMPTIONS) are the type who argue that they want the right to have guns in their house. if you have a gun, that is your responsibility. just like taking care of these dogs or any other powerful breed. guns kill more people than dogs. guns kill more KIDS than dogs. but that would be unAmerican to ban guns. so why is it ok for dogs. I personally would like to keep government as much out of my personal business as possible. The same people who want laws against gay marriage, abortion, and other moral issues are the same people who are FREAKING OUT about government taking over their health care or bailing out the auto companies and taking over banks…. so they need to make up their minds. I have the right to carry a gun and I also have the right to have whatever breed of dog I choose. To tell me otherwise would be unAmerican.
the radical pit bull lover.
In my opinion I think the problem isn’t so much the breed itself but it’s the ignorance people have about them. Unfortunately it doesn’t help that a lot of owners hit people with the “I have 8 pit bulls and they all love me” response which doesn’t give the breed the praise it needs.
To People Who Hate the breed:
You must understand that albeit a domestic animal, a pit bull is just that. An ANIMAL. They are trained and bred to do what they do so fault lies more within the people that own them and handle them. If you do not train your dog (ANY BREED) what you have is a ticking time bomb. What you should also understand is a pit who attacks people (child or adult) is NOT a good or real representation of the TRUE PIT BULL. Most people know the history of the pit bull was to bait and fight bulls then was moved onto fighting other dogs. If you’ve ever been between two dogs fighting (which I have trying to break up a fight between my retriever and a boxer) you would not believe the physical POWER these animals have. To be in the middle of a dog fight is a VERY dangerous place. Because of that, it was a REQUIREMENT that an owner be able to step between his dog and break up the fight WITHOUT being bitten. Dogs that bite were put to sleep and dogs that could be controlled in the fight were bred. Thus the TRUE pit bull breed was born. A breed who makes a lousy guard dog because they LOVE people. A breed who is GOOD with children because they are gentle and have a high pain tolerance (so when little Tommy is pulling on Fido, he has less of a chance of biting then if he were to pull the ear of another breed). Many of the backyard breeders and people who fight/breed their dogs have introduced a negative trait that was not part of the breed and have done this through years of abuse and neglect. That trait is uncontrolled aggression. Note, I said UNCONTROLLED. Perhaps rather then banning this animal (Which you know won’t work because people will just move onto another helpless breed) Have laws aimed towards the correct ways to own this dog. Have ALL breeders required to breed only mentally and physically fit pits. Require ALL animals and owners to attend obedience trainings and socialization classes. Do not allow pits to be sold (online or through the paper) unless they are a registered breeder. Friends you must understand that this breed is essentially been turned into a monster not because it wanted to but because we as a society have MADE it that way. We need to take responsibility for our past actions and begin to correct it. And as I said banning will NOT be a good solution due to the fact 3 years down the line we will hear the same problem with a different breed. If we allow pits to be banned, soon Rotts, Shepards, Dobermans, Boxers, and many other larger breeds that people don’t understand will be hunted down and persecuted as the pit is having happened to it right now. What will man be left with as a best friend if we choose to turn him into a monster then say “Bad boy for scaring me!”?
To Pitbull Owners:
You have an obligation to your animal and part of that is raising awareness that pits are not the monsters they are made out to be. Stop with the mushy I have 13 pits and they are all friendly. Start taking your dog out in public, let people touch him and see him. Volunteer with your dog, rescue pits, the list goes on and on. We need to become MORE active in what we do if we want to see this wonderful creature continue on with its life. We need to SHOW people that yes dog attacks have happened but its isolated incidents and NOT a trait of members of the TURE breed.
Thank you!! I totally agree with everything that you have said!!! I keep my dog very social between people, other animals, other dogs, and just public in general i take her everywhere i can with me…they are very very very sweet dogs i have done everything i can to make her use to people from pulling on her ears when we play i rub them and it puts her to sleep i give her toys and i also take them randomly so she learns to share her toys and not be aggressive if they are taken, as well with her eating i pet her from time to time she just stops eating licks my land then goes back to eating. I teach her the “no bite”, though she is teething i understand the wanting to just chew… i have plenty of chew toys that we rotate so she doesn’t get bored with just one or two. i have done a lot of research on the breed. I did find her online @ a registered breeder but i still wanted to see how she played with her brother and sisters, so i called and i went to the home. I also met the parents, (The Father was actually the more submissive.) and they were both very very sweet personalities.
I do agree that this breed is a wonderful companion. Isolation is a key factor in aggression, my brothers dog (A rat terrier) is a spoiled little brat and he is never socialized…ever! He is thee most aggressive little thing i have ever seen! I don’t mean protective either…just aggressive. If u keep them social it’s better for everyone!
As i keep rambling on and on… I just wanted to say thank you u have put all of my jumbled thoughts into several very well worded opinions.
The person that wrote this story must have been Kayne West because they had their head up their ass. Pit Bulls are not mean if they are raised right just like any other dog. A friend of mine had four pit bulls & my brother has three. None of them are mean. It is about how you treat them that makes them mean.
Being a dumb-ass and using anecdotal info in support of this abomination of a dog goes hand in hand.
Blow me bitch. You are a feses eater & a sodomite. It is still a fact that how you raise a dog is how a dog be.
Just because you believe something doesn’t make it a fact, and your inelegant comment further illustrates how foul mouthed and minded Shit Bull™ supporters are.
Yeah, with all those Shit Bulls, probably a thug that hosts fights in his back yard…I’d bet he lives in Camden, NJ…
Your the dumb ass who always attacks pit bulls as being bad. German Shepards are bad too. Why not be objective in your opinions. Oh” I forgot, your an inbred.
Just because YOU believe in something, doesn’t make it a fact; as well as your knowledge has lead you. you’re in denial of your own intellect(which is not much)by ranting nonsense with your rob™ supporter act. i wouldn’t be surprised if you were ROB himself in disguise. now that’s just pathetic.
No, believing in facts makes me reasonable. Go back to the top and read the article and click on the info that Robbie went to the trouble of inserting. Denying the facts makes you irrational.
As for your theory that Robbie and I are the same person, it is spurious. No further proof is needed, as you are inclined to believe falsehoods.
Here is another example of facts for you to disavow.
Pit Bulls attack group of kids–Owners have them put down.
My understanding from a pit trainer Oklahoma, that btw trained pits to fight, is that they have a TON of pressure in their jaws (that’s over 2000 lbs for the people that like the numbers) and that they lock when they bite. He carried a hammer handle with him because he said the only way to get them to open their jaw was to shove it up it’s ass. The dogs had lost their canines in fights and had them replaced with metal implants. Well I suppose a hammer handle up my ass would make me open my mouth too but I don’t believe it would be necessary unlike with the owners of the dogs. True you may have a pit bull and it may be a nicey nice dog NOW but like any selective bred dog they tend to be very unstable. You know, innerbreeding, like….well….YOU. Now just because some of you have pits and they are nice dogs FOR NOW does not justify the fact that they are bred for the purpose of KILLING. You can use a 45 for taget practice but that’s not what it was made for. Get it??? Probably not. It’s a punk ass thugs dog. I say kill the thug owner and the dog. Then our children will be able to be safe when they walk down the streets of AMERICA.
That is a myth that has been thoroughly proven false. They are “grasping” dogs, true, but it is because of their inordinate muscular strength in the jaws, neck, and chest that makes them capable of hanging on.
They are vile creatures.
First off, they were not raised to straight up kill ppl. If you are soo afraid of this breed then dont own it, if u are afraid of walking down u’r street where there are dogs? Simple, take something with u, mace, there are devices that scare bigger dogs away that do not harm either party and they cost maybe $8-$15 (that i’ve seen) there is one such device i found called a “clever dog”. It is a ultrasonic device that send out sound waves that only animals can hear. i use the one setting as a trainer it’s enough to get the dogs attention as i give a verbal command such as come, sit, heal but not hurt but there is a second setting that is “harmful”/hurtful to their hearing and scares them away or i use it in short burst if my puppy is bad or isn’t getting the message of “NO” or “don’t do that(Jumping, barking exessive, ect)”. It was advertised as a device to ward off bigger aggressive dogs if are threatened. We did have to use it on a rhodesian ridgeback….these things are the size of small ponies, they are raised to be killers…in africa, bred to hunt large cats…and it worked on it…i’m sure it will work on smaller dogs like rotties, pits, and what ever else u walk by…even cats hate it. As for owners if they know or thing their dog may be agressive on walks or such, that is y we have leash laws…that is y they make muzzles so they cant bite…or u can simply walk around/away from the person walking their dog. It just amazes me how ppl are afraid of dogs now a days and there are kids as young as 12 or 13 yrs old that carry guns… dogs are the least of this countrys problems!!! y don’t ppl find a bigger problem to bitch about an focus as much energy on that and u do stupid small stuff…u would be amazed @ what could change.
I’m amazed at people who just don’t get it how unnecessary these dogs are and how destructive they are.
I am always prepared to deal with a physical threat, though many Shit Bulls™ have required emptying a magazine of .45acp to kill it.
I want the killing and maiming of innocent people by these disgusting animals to stop.
There are many dangerous things we have no control over, this isn’t one of them.
maybe not everyone is as innocent as they seem? Taunting, environments, abuse, and seveal other factors can cause ANY dog to snap/attack. So it’s not always the dog….
True for most dogs, not the Shit Bull™.
“Just because you believe something doesn’t make it a fact,..” -No2Liberals
yeah u took the words right out of my mouth… so there for just b/c u hate this breed doesn’t mean they are bad or they must be banned…there really are far worst dogs out there…
No, I put those words in your head, but they could gain no purchase.
I support my arguments with facts.
You with anecdotes and distortions.
Your so called facts are bullshit. It seems as though your brain only has one brain cell bouncing around that head full of hot air. Again, it is all about how a dog is raised that will determine how a dog reacts. So pull that little head out of that ass. If you free your mind, your ass will follow.
Speaking from experience, or just wishful thinking on your part.
No, once again dingus, it’s the dog.
I find it funny how some of you continue to blame an ANIMAL which PEOPLE have trained for its behavior. Find fault in the ignorant people who take the natural strength and aggression these dogs posses and turn it into an evil thing. You wanna ban something? Ban ignorant idiots from OWNING the dog. Not responsible people. I guarantee the stories you hear about people being mauled did NOT include a dog who was properly trained AND supervised. All the stories you hear were about a pit who was running the streets or a child who was left at home by itself got attacked. Come on people, its not the dogs fault its doing what its master told it. BLAME PEOPLE.
thank u!!!! AGAIN!!!!
More and more I do blame the people that support this abomination of a dog, but mostly I blame the dog.
And it ain’t funny, the damage that they do.
HELLO! Your BLAMING AN ANIMAL! AN animal for god sakes. This creature doesn’t abide by the same laws of life we do! For a domesticated creature it does what its told, what its TRAINED to do. Get real.
Aint aint a word… you have criticized other people in the past for grammatical or spelling errors and semantics saying that it proves the ignorance of pit bull owners. … check your own… you would say “it isn’t funny”…but i suppose it proves the ignorance of the people who support the banning of a breed. you are a NAZI.
the radical pit bull owner.
Really?
So what does that prove to you now, dingus?
Oh the cry of the lost argument…NAZI! Or is it just Reductio ad Hitlerum?
Opinions are not wrong, on the other hand your ignorance is quite annoying… you keep saying that these sweet dogs are dangerous and unnecessary… that’s easy if your dont like the breed then don’t have one.
YOU had the nerve to bring the military into this? military has nothing to do with the breeds behavior. AND NO NOT all bases have them banned, thank you very much. The quote you choose, is againan opinion…so here try these facts.
Most people who own them have no problems at all with them, between other pets, children, neighbors, ect. It is an option to own a pet, so therefore it is a choice of which breed(s) you choose to own. IT IS THE OWNER…NOT ALWAYS THE BREED get over it, and as for the thoughts in my head they are my opinions and no your words have no power of suggestion… So try following your own advice…”get used to it”,
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/2254479/Sausage-dogs-are-the-most-aggressive-dogs.html
http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/features/mutts/blog/2008/07/the_most_aggressive_dog_breeds.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/2254479/Sausage-dogs-are-the-most-aggressive-dogs.html
http://www.petsdo.com/blog/top-ten-10-most-dangerous-dog-breeds
http://www.examiner.com/x-14837-Baltimore-Dog-Breeds-Examiner~y2009m7d24-Top-5-most-aggressive-dog-breeds-in-America
http://dogobedienceadvice.com/which_dog_breeds_are_most_aggressive.php
http://www.dirjournal.com/info/most-dangerous-dogs-in-the-world/
http://www.canismajor.com/dog/aggres1.html
try those facts…
I see you are still stuck on stupid.
Your next to last link lists the Shit Bull™ as the most dangerous. You should read what you link.
It has nothing to do with the most “aggressive” or “vicious,” but the one that causes more human fatalities and maimings.
Two things you are obviously willing to overlook.
You are a sick individual.
yeah OK #1 USMC did a study, there’s a joke!!! Coming from a branch of military that the ppl who enlist are broken down mentally and are bulit back up and trained to be killers? I’m sure what ever k-9 units they have are taught the same way…#2 u have the nerve to call me a sick person? You said your self that you would empty a magazine clip into and animal just because of the breed? IF that’s not a verbal threat of animal abuse then idk what is…i have a friend he pit was hit in her front yard, the guy admitted it was b/c of the breed! This dog has never hurt anyone, never aggressive and it lives with several other dogs big and small. They went to court and sued this guy. The judge agreed with them and now not only is there charges for animal cruelty and HUGE fines for the next several yrs but he has to pay every vet bill for this dog for the rest of it’s life b/c of the extent of the damage done it now has to lose a leg from damaged nerves. #3 my links may have them listed BUT the point is they also back the fact that they are very loyal dogs who normally attack is provoked or is protecting it’s territory or family… they were bred to be guard dogs and bred to fight through the years the breed has been cross bred to draw back the temperment of these dog to make them less aggressive as well as dobermans, rotties, as several others try dog 101 on animal planet…
I’m sick of ppl putting the blame on animals when things go wrong. When a dog attacks or any other animal in that case owners will blame others never themselves for either leaving the dog out unsupervised, unsocialized, etc. that man who hit her dog and you are the sick ppl. If a single animal such a elephant or a small dog or even a bird is violent they put it down due to safety. That i can agree on if the animal has a history of biting or attacking more than once or depending on the situation. But to do it to a whole breed is wrong and a sick thing to do and the fact that you say it’s every dog in this breed makes you the sick one and a complete JACK ASS!!! what makes you think your so high and mighty that what ever you say rules? Every dog deserves a chance, you on the other had do not…
Little wonder you are such a disturbed and disturbing person, that is not what I said. Typical make shit up idiot.
I call bullshit on your statement and you.
With the history of this dog, and the overwhelming evidence of the number of fatalities and maimings, you would rather wait until this dog kills or maims to decide if it is a danger?
That’s like closing the barn door after the horse got out.
I say, spay and neuter them so they can’t breed. That way you get to keep your “sweetest thing” for its natural life. You can say you are the proud owner of a last of its kind.
Then obsessive and disturbed people like you can find some other animal or cause to latch on to.
How about a Cobra snake? They are misunderstood aren’t they?
Why, you should get a Cobra as a hatchling, raise it up with love and affection, and prove to us all that the little darling is the “sweetest thing” and that it is just bad publicity and media distortions about the little venom thing.
/idiot
Its too obvious you don’t know a thing about animals and behavior.
“I am always prepared to deal with a physical threat, though many Shit Bulls™ have required emptying a magazine of .45acp to kill it.”
fine i’ll admit maybe i went a bit out of content but it still says the same thing, that you would shoot this breed just b/c u say it’s a threat? so that still makes me the disturbed one….yeah, sure.
my links will say yes that it is the most aggressive if and when PROVOKED, trained, or abused.. it also says it is b/c this dog is so loyal it has the tendancy to protect it’s family and territory…hello bred to be a guard dog..? that would make too much sence for u though…
and the history of a specific dog not the breed. In reference of what leia said, she says about stopping the breeding of monsters, this breed is not a monster you are for wanting to destroy something that can be loving, loyal and a FAMILY pet. The control she is talking about is stop the breeding of the more aggressive dogs who have been in bred or just have a more than normal aggressive tendancy. It has been done to rotties and other breeds through out the yrs…banning pits are not the only option.
so u pull snakes into this…i have a ball python thank you and he is very lovable…i have had him for over 3 yrs. i handle him everyday for several hrs off and on…ppl own skunks, they simply have the sent glans removed very early and they are as harmless as a cat. Snapping turtles, from babies. i was raised around them my dad taught me to have respect for them not to taunt and piss them off they will take fingers and chunks and they DO NOT LET GO.. cobras, rattlesmakes, black snakes what ever, just have the venom gland taken out, so yeah sure id love one, should i sign u up as well? Any animal can be misunderstood, people just dont know how to respect them…idiot
what makes you think you know these dogs by reading “studies” online…have u ever played with a pit? owned one? what have they ever done to YOU. I don’t care about what you read i want to know what they have done to you personally…you keep saying the same things over and over but have u ever really had any encounter with a good/well behaved pit? If you havent then i can see how u think all of them are bad due to u’r “studies and research” thanks to the media, until you have a personal story to back why u hate them it just makes u seem so ignorant..do some research on animal training and behavior.
…ingorance must be such bliss for u…
I call Bullshit on You
Yes, you misquoted what I said, and are still doing so. Compare the bold part of your comment against my quote.
You obviously haven’t read any police accounts of trying to stop these dogs when they expose their psychotic tendencies.
As for my experiences with these aberrant dogs, I have already commented on it many times.
Been there, done that.
Your assignment is to do any research on the damage this dog does.
Sure there are good ones, but for such a small dog population to commit a disproportionate amount of damage and death is completely unacceptable.
I was pointing out that you are wrong, when you stated it was only Ellsworth that created policy because of an incident, and I proved it with a fact. If your blinders weren’t obscuring your vision, you would have noticed that a study was done by the USMC to determine if there were dogs that needed to be banned. No surprise how that came out, the three most dangerous dogs were banned, with the Shit Bull™ listed first. Maybe it was due to alphabetical order, or maybe due to the most dangerous dog being listed first.
I know you would like to twist and obscure the responsibility on this to any one or anything, but this despicable dog, but you just aren’t clever enough to pull it off.
Shit Bulls ™ are going away, get used to it.
i have two pitbulls. both rescues. one was found at a gas station and the other was found on the side of the road. judging from his scars it was obvious they used him in dog fighting. I couldnt have a sweeter dog, the most dangerous thing about him is his tail. all u have to do is smile at him to make his tail wag. My other pit sleeps in my bed every night just like a person. her body under the covers head on a pillow right next to me
The pitbull is not a bad breed. of course there will be some bad dogs here and there. but that happens with every breed. im sure the only reason most people think the pitbull is the most popular “bad dog breed” is because the media jumps all over pits because thats how they sell money. have u ever noticed when theres a dog attack thats not a PITBULL one they just say DOG ATTACK like it doesnt matter what the breed was. if its a pit, its PITBULL ATTACK!!!
i love pits!!!
by the way im only twelve and ive got a better knowledge of the breed than you do
Since you are so young and unenlightened, you need to visit the Amaya Hess web page. Ask your parents if you can send a donation to her.
You don’t know nearly as much as you think you do, and I can only pray that another two year old child doesn’t fall victim to your dogs.
Hmmm so with this thinking means we should ban black labs (since one chewed up a lady’s face) We should ban Pomeranian (Since one attacked AND KILLED a baby) We should also ban Dachshunds (since they are the breed MOST likely to bite its own owner . . . the list goes on. YOUR the one who doesn’t know as much as you think you do.
Leia, you are just as myopic as the other Shit Bull™ jockstraps.
Shit Bull™ represent about 3% of the total dog population in this country, and were responsible for 59% of all dog bite fatalities over the last three years. Labs are the most popular dog in this country at about 17% of the dog population, yet they aren’t even listed in the latest dog bite fatalities.
So keep on defending the indefensible, if you chose, I on the other will continue to focus attention on this dangerous, destructive, and unnecessary dog.
Also, to remind equivocators like you once again, it isn’t about “aggression” or “viciousness” or “most likely to bite,” but about fatalities and maimings.
Oh, and Leia, it is you’re or you are, not your.
Attacking my grammar isn’t going to get your point across any better. Even if you try to take that road, your argument is still flawed. I find it funny you keep giving these statistics but do not quote where they came from and if your using the internet as your source then well like I said . . . flawed. As I said, you don’t know about animal behavior seeing as how fatalities and maiming ARE related to aggression and viciousness. But the point being banning this animal IS NOT a valid option. Banning pit bull type dogs will only lead people to find another breed to “monsterize”. What needs to be done is simple control. If we stop breeding monsters then guess what . . . no more monsters. The breed as a whole are not monsters. Yes some of their brothers and sisters are but that is not the fault of good dogs nor should they be punished for it.
It was a correction and a test. You failed!
I find it funny that you find so much funny. You’re a funny girl.
If you had even bothered to read the entire story Robbie posted, you will find all the info there, and if you click on the link, they even have a pdf download where you can see that data.
Bull shit! You are intentionally ignoring how much more destructive this type of dog is over any other. I have forgotten more about animal behavior than you have learned.
IT IS the only realistic option.
That’s what I have been saying, and glad to hear you starting to get a clue. Spay/neuter all Shit Bulls™ and in about 12-14 years, the monsters will all go away. There is no punishment involved.
Man needs the license to breed. We are not god and should not go about planning the extermination of one type of dog. We cant rid ourselves of child molester’s and rapists and constantly allow them back into the population, so what makes you think we could have that much control over a dog. Control comes from education…not extermination.
you dont know a dog till you own one, what is up with all the damn ppl in the world that think pit bulls are so bad when its not just the pits that do wrong, any dog can do what a pit bull can. there are animals just as dangerous and not all pits are the same so screw everyone who thinks they should die and be banned, i am an owner of one who is amazing i have four little sisters two are 8 and one is ten and i have many cousins and family who have been around him plenty of times and all his does is wag his tail non stop and love on them because he loves the attention, when you get a pit bull you have to know where it came from, the owner that it came from along with the parents of the pit and the parents of his/her parents pits can only be mean if they are raised that way or it is in their blood line..a friend of mine that i got my pit from has 12 pit bulls all ranging in age and not one of them has ever done anything wrong or even attemped to attack a human or even another dog at that and my pit was raised with another dog in the house who is totally different than he is, she is a cocker spaniel and they both play with eachother and we have an outside cat who he also plays with, when i take him to the vet other dogs are the ones that bark at him he just sits when i tell him to and stays like a good dog and when i bring him around other ppl they all love him because of how sweet and kind he is. most pits that are bad are raised in bad areas with horrible owners and are neglected these dogs are all about the attention and if he leave them alone and raise them to be guard dogs they will do exactly what you think they will do, but any dog can turn and any dog can kill a human being but for some reason everyone that wants a bully dog gets a pit them makes them look like the bad breed to everyone when they arent….everyone needs to get there facts straight before they start dogging on a bread that they know nothing about, get one and youll see what its all abouta
I know all about pits.
I must admit, though, there are some “breads” I’m unfamiliar with.
so i suppose you are a sourdough douche bag.
Your supposition as a comment exposes the need for a suppository in your brain.
i am so sick of ppl sayin its time to band pits they are one of the best dogs in the qorld i love my pits i mena i have hasd them since i was little and its not the dogs fought they have to fight for thier lives it that of they die http://www.msplinks.com/MDFodHRwOi8vd3d3LnlvdXR1YmUuY29tL3dhdGNoP3Y9cEJOQy1xdG12Znc=—-that is on youtbe and it is do true about pits it explains everything and its the truth i mean ppl they either fight get killed starved or beat….when you own one they are like a kid you dont want to see them die and it would piss alot off pll off and hurt alot of ppl if they got band(judge the breed not the deed!!!!!)
How about a Battle of the Bands?
do you find enjoyment in picking fights with kids… its obvious by the way in which the last statement was written it was a child you are dealing with…i mean seriously. Also as you said yourself
.. the use of the word “aint” is more common in the habitual speech of the less educated- so i suppose you are not really that educated.
Henh.
You left off the last part, dingus.
But I shouldn’t expect more from an ankle-biter like you.
It is important to remember the audience you are addressing, and speak in terms they understand.
As for the age of the comment posted, I don’t know that it was a child, but I thought the use of the word “band” was amusing, irrespective of the age of the person.
You on the other hand are a sad case, ankle-biting without actually taking a stand. Come on wussie, come at me straight up with your best shot, if you actually have one. I’m always checking in on the comments, even with my busy schedule.
So to the spineless piece of shit who started this, if you are that much of a little bitch that your going to call a breed this loyal a killing machine I say your scared. They threaten you because you know that those dogs are worth more in life than your sorry ass will ever amount to. I feel bad for the kid, but I see lots of kids come in with dog bites because they hurt the dog, smacked the dog, or scared them. Also any breed can turn. For a very long time the cocker spaniel (which I also own one of) was at the top of the bite list. So I say this to you who are clearly scared of pits. Keep your mouth shut if they intimidate you so much because the people like us who raise them as kids themselves understand that they’re lives are worth more than yours.
Good advice, you should follow it.
You clearly don’t know squat about why this destructive animal needs to be sent to the dust bin of history.
I wouldn’t bother insulting you or picking apart what you’ve written as far as intelligence or grammar or anything else. It’s clear that you’re an intelligent person with strong opinions on a serious matter. Some people post their strong opinions with the hopes to have someone with an equally valid point, change their mind. I suspect this is not you, however and you are hoping to change the minds of others.
I don’t know a lot about the breed, myself. I am, however a lover of all animals. Couldn’t you agree, if you stop to think it over, that there might be a better way to solve the issue, rather than eliminating the animal all together? What about what some others have suggested; carefully monitoring who is able to own, and how they care for their pet? Or… and it might sound strange, but there are grounds here where i live for feral cats to run free. They are too wild and unpredictable to be kept as pets, far too dangerous. A group of volunteers who love animals, monitor them and feed them. They are all spayed and neutered. I don’t know if this arrangement would be practical for dogs or not. All i’m saying is that there must be an alternative to simply killing off the breed. They’re are enough animals going extinct because of our stupidity as it is. I’d really hate for us to choose to eliminate another.
If we license pittbull owners and breeders and keep tighter reigns/watch over them it should drastically reduce these, “accidents”. We would never be able to stop them entirely, but such is life. These things will happen, like it or not. I get why the interest in them as a breed specifically. They may attack as frequently as any other, but with the increased jaw muscle mass, are able to do more damage. However, I don’t know that that warrants them being treated any differently, other than ofcourse with more care and caution.
I’ve enjoyed reading everyones posts from either POV. I work for the SPCA and I’ve seen a few pitties come through who were sweetness and light, but I’m not so ignorant to think that in the wrong hands, they could become deadly.
Perhaps everyone here could agree to come up with a reasonable solution to an obvious problem, rather than throwing around insults. That doesn’t help anyone.
correction “that in the wrong hands, they COULDN’T become deadly”
I have given this issue considerable thought, after reviewing all available info and my own personal accounts.
Since you claim to work for the SPCA you might be interested in the info I posted here and here.
i have a 2year old and she plays with our 3pits with out supervishion and nothing has ever happend to her
You are an idiot. I don’t care WHAT the breed of dog is; you NEVER leave a 2 year old unattended with ANY animal. You NEVER leave a 2 year old unattended, PERIOD.
Reading these comments actually made me crack up. And don’t be so hard on “NO2Liberals” he’s obviously very young by his writing and is just trying to get a rise out of people. Also although ain’t is prevalent, it is not considered proper English. Just because people use slang doesn’t mean that it’s accepted as a proper form of is not, are not, has not”, or have not. Quick side note, you said you were college educated, I was just wondering where you went to college and for what?
glowinthedarkgirlie, please tell me you don’t work around children or operate heavy equipment.
BTW, did you hear about this “sweetest thing?”
Toddler Killed by Dog!
Sure seems there is alot of that “I don’t understand it” going around in the Shit Bull™ lover community.
This is an old saw that comes around with a vengeance about every ten years. They wanted to ban “pit bulls” from Atlanta back in 1986, and even Sports Illustrated joined the mob by featuring a rabid-looking pit bull on its cover, asking readers if the dog should be put down as a breed.
It took the Georgia Veterinary Association to remind the lynch mob that the AKC recognizes no such animal as the “pit bull”, thus singling out such dogs for mass euthanasia would be a wholly subjective undertaking and would never stand up to legal scrutiny.
People grow up to be pit bulls too, just like that one on the cover of Sports Illustrated….if they’re raised that way. Ours was raised with a hundred hugs and kisses a day. Every kid within two city blocks loved him. If he wasn’t the sweetest animal on planet earth, he sure must have been close.
photo: my wife Karen & Marvon:
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l36/erasermax101/thekiss.jpg
oh quit with you bullshit pitbull attack storys who fucken knows if those storys are even true unless we saw it with out own eyes… half this shit aint even real.. just another pitbull banner posting stupid shit to try and stop pitbulls. ahhaha FUNNY. you might as well just GET THE FUCK OVER IT. its not going to happen so quit tryen. and the last thing you said did not make any sence. who is the dumbass? god made the breed now let it be, obviously it was hear for a reason, i bet you never look up all the live a pitbull has saved have you… instead of typing “pitbull attacks” in your google bar try typing “pitbull saves a life” all people do is look at the bad side and not relize what the hell is right in front of thier faces. NO ONE can ever make the breed go away sorry.. you might just want to give up on the whole ‘shit bull thing, you only sound like a a dog fighter who doesnt give a hell about weather they die or not… simply the case is.. YOUR AN IDIOT!
Right back at you Jessie the dumbass. I don’t believe your stories of Shit Bulls™ saving lives, either.
Ohio is the only state that currently has breed specific laws concerning these disgusting dogs, and about five hundred communities ban them. The awareness of their destruction is growing.
I will match your obstinate behavior in working to rid our world of these genetic mistakes.
You don’t have to believe me, just scroll back up to the story and click on the link, and read the pdf, that is if you really want to know how destructive these worthless dogs are, which I doubt.
how about ban people..that sounds better to me.
Okay, you first.
maybe with a little proper training and a little dicipline ppl like you and all the bad dogs can be turned around. and who cares about the state ohio thats not where i live so i dont care. whoever brainwashed ur head is a bullshitter.(computer,tv,movies) im sure all you think pitbulls are is a ghetto dog on the street, than y are people selling them for 3000 and 4000 dollars? oh yea because theyre worth it DUH. and Ur little slang usage..it sucks. i petty on you. poor thing.
Jessie, first of all, get spell check. Secondly, the point about Ohio is this, other state legislatures are taking this issue up, it is a rolling snowball, and these dogs will be rightfully banned in many, many states.
There are people breeding these dogs for that amount of money, and idiots who will pay that price?
Shit Bull™ supporters are dumber than I imagined.
i have my opinion and you have yours. quit trying to talk your bull shit into peoples heads, u will never be right and will never change a single mind. i will stand againsed you to fight for out beloved animals. like i said everyone deserves a chance. give it time. as many ppl that are breeding them to be loyal companions they will all turn out well mannered in the end.. unlike the human breed..(you) will never change.
Jessie, they have had their chance and ruined it by killing and maiming too many people.
I have informed many who did not know how dangerous and despicable these dogs are, and will continue to do so at every opportunity.
And seriously, get spell check.
im not the idiot trying to talk in slang shit and yes ppl pay that much plus more, i dont because im not rich like evryone els. and you are the bigger idiot to think that pitbulls will just disapear off the earth like a stupid ass human could acctually make that happen phhh yah right.
Oh yes, it is possible.
I’m a very patient man, and have now gotten younger people involved in the idea of banning this dog.
Some people who were sitting on the fence have now gotten on the side that wants this doggone dog gone.
I really don’t like to play devils advocate, but people most certainly could be responsible for the elimination of a breed of dog, or a species, or a race. Look at our history, we’re not known for being the best caretakers of all living things. I really wouldn’t want this to happen, but i’m just saying. It’s very important to nip these ideas in the bud, before too many who can be too easily swayed jump on board. It could be very dangerous for the breed.
Turn about is fair play.
Man created this dog through breeding programs, reversing the mistake seems logical, given its destructiveness.
well it is not going to work on ANYONE who likes the american pitbull terrier so you shouldnt even bother trying. expecially ME!
I don’t give a pile of dog shit about you. I only use you as an example of the twisted type of person who wants to see these killing machines live on.
So know this, you do have a purpose on Earth, to serve as an object lesson as the type of person one should never aspire to be.
well just to let you know… i am a younger GIRL. so its alot harder to convince younger ppl than you think, and i hope you dont think you acctually made a difference cause im also showing off my dogs to everyone telling them how nice they are and that thier not a bad breed, the owner is the whole reason this happend. so do not blame the ‘shitbull’ lover idiots, its ppl like you that fuck everything up. i have turned ppl that didnt like pitbulls into pitbull lovers, my boyfriend didnt like them and he has a scar on his face when he was attacked by a rednose… and of coarse in ever pitbull attack case thier is always an explination, the dog lived in a van and hadnt ate in two weeks my boyfriend had surgery 3 times and now he ownes a blue one. it was NOT the dogs fault it was the owner.
Well, good for you.
Here is a video from the Pit Bull Awareness Day.
did you even read the comments ppl left on that??? they were almost all againsed bsl. way more ppl like pitbulls than ppl that dont.
No, didn’t read one comment.
It doesn’t matter if you believe more people like them than not, all it takes is the dog itself to help convert people to disliking them.
Pit bull fatally stabbed during attack.
Owner shoots and kills dog during attack.
A search for what set off pet pit bulls’ lethal attack.
I wish the web could ban spamming idiots like NO2LIBERALS. What an ass! Seems that every forum has one: a loudmouth illiterate who’s convinced the world hangs on his every utterance, so he spams every thread with 30 posts of nothing but antagonistic crap. Get a life old man!
It would appear you are the idiot.
I have admin privileges from Robbie, so I am always looking in on things.
If my comments are antagonistic to you, then you must believe, for some odd reason, that you are a protagonist.
Do you?
yea he is deff one idiot… who the hell is he to call people idiots because they love pitbulls? thats really fucked up man. really. you dont judge someone on what dog breed they like, expecially someone that has a strong passion for the breed. he is an asshole for sure!
Being called an asshole by the likes of you encourages me.
I’m obviously doing the right things.
Thanks for the compliment.
I promise to be even more engaged on this thread than ever before.
ha you are insane if you think that affects me in any way, im glad you feel so great and powerful because your an asshole. well i guess that maked me so powerful to because you call be a twisted idiot. you are a loser and do not know anything, arguing with all these ppl obviously confuses you seeing as how you emailing me when i didnt say anything about that.??? your stupid
You must be drunk, as your lack of spell check is even worse with your lack of lucidity.
Email?
Not only are you a drunken semi-literate idiot, you are delusional, as well.
i will continue to do so. good luck with convincing ppl! i hope you have to argue all day like you try to with everyone els…2 bad it doesnt work… no this is not about aggresion… and its not about the damage the can do either cause otherwise ppl would ban other breeds like german sheperds and rottis. so just do us all a favor and SHUT THE HELL UP! go find other idiots to talk to that dont like pitts cause i do so ur talken to the wrong person here, no one will EVER make me change my mind.
uh ya email. everything you have been replying back to me goes to my email a couple other ppl have done it also, so dont feel to stupid
Oh, I don’t feel stupid at all.
I log in as an admin, so I don’t get the same page view as you. I can, however, look at your ISP info and email address, but have no interest in emailing you.
Since I know you will get this, here’s some interesting reading for you.
From Animal People magazine, July/Aug 09 edition.
Decade of adoption focus fails to reduce shelter killing.
More cities and states need to enact more bsl’s for these creatures, so the maiming of innocent people will decline, and fewer animals will have to be euthanized.
In reconsidering the above info, about how many of these creatures are destroyed(thankfully) and turned into shelters by their owners, I can now officially call bullshit on your claim that they sell for big bucks.
Oh, forgot the last part for the five percenter.
I have 3 girls and always have had pitbulls & Ive never had any problems ! Its the owener falt remember there are NO Bad Dogs only BAD oweners !
That’s your opinion only, the statistics on this type of dog tell a different story.
so i really think that the yankees are going to clinch this series at home i mean it’s 3-2 yanks and were home again. Pettite is clutch. Lets go Yankees
I have a pure bread bluenose pitbull i love the breed i also have 3 kids ages 15 10 and 7 my pitbull is 2 years old and would never hurt anyone unless they were attemping to hurt me or my family it is not the breed but the onwers if you raise the dogs right they wont attack and lets face it people any dog will attack at anytime i am so tired of hearing about pitbulls being a dangerous breed get real they are loving if raised right
Get real yourself, 59% of all dog bite fatalities in the last three years are due to these dogs, and they represent less than 5% of the dog population.
I’ve heard all of the “it’s the sweetest thing” nonsense many times before. Before the dog has turned on a family member.
Like this woman.
dont ban pitbulls…that guy is an idiot
The American Pit Bull Terrier was the most popular
family dog during the first part of the 20th century.So What Happened?According to the American Canine Temperament Testing Association, 85.3%of the American Pit Bull Terriers that took the temperament test passed, compared to a 81.9% passing rate for all breeds on average. In the test a dog is placed in a series of confrontational situations. The first sign of aggression or panic is a failure of the test. Pit Bulls have achieved the fourth highest passing rate of all 122 breeds tested. Click here to view an article on the new Alabama Supreme Court’s ruling that there is no genetic evidence that one breed of dog is more dangerous than another.During World War I , the Pit Bull was often used to represent America. save the pitbulls please. dont let them go to waste they are wonderfull dogs!
Yeah, what happened?
No other type of dog has killed or maimed as many as this one.
Alabama, hunh?
Denver’s pit bull ban(pdf).
Eleven Iowa communities ban pit bulls.
The state of Ohio declared pit bulls as “vicious” and requires owners to carry $100,000 in liability insurance, securely constrain the dog when on-property and to use a chain-link leash when off-property.
Many of Ohio’s cities increased the restrictions, and in the case of Toledo, they allow one pit bull per household and muzzling when off-property. Toledo’s ban was litigated many times, and as of Feb 2008, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled Toledo’s breed specific ordinances are constitutional, and cannot be further appealed.
An interesting case, Tellings v. Toledo.
In San Fran, they enacted a mandatory pit bull sterilization program, to such good effect, it is being considered a model for other communities. In the first 18 months, pit bull impoundments declined by 21%; shelter occupancy rates fell from three-quarters to one-quarter and pit bull euthanizations dropped 24%.
Whatever their appeal was at one time, it is not the same today, and only a small portion of the population cares for this dog.
It’s time they were all neutered.
Lets just get rid of all the bears in the wild that attack. While we are at it, lets rid ourselves of any animal that causes damage. Any animal can be dangerous. I own a pit and love him to death. I have never seen any violent tones from him but still treat him like a loaded weapon. My four year old daughter rides on his back and he sleeps with my cat. I have no reason to believe he is a danger to me and my family, but who knows. A pit is pure muscle and commands respect. The same can be said for any wild beast we know in nature. Any person that doesn’t believe their dog has the potential to kill, shouldn’t own that dog, regardless of breed. Punish the owner/deed, not the breed. A lot of owners are idiots but that doesn’t mean we should go about exterminating an entire breed of dogs. We did not ban motorized vehicles because of a few idiot drivers, so lets get real about dog owners and place the blame where it belongs, regardless of what breed of dog they own.
why on every news attack they never say anything about the owners? they never say oh that person left thier dog out knowing it was mean… they never blaimed humans on TV when it was all thier fault. they are idiots..owners need to have a little more attention paid to thier dogs. and some repect for other dogs and ppl for thier saftey. i love my apbts and i know how to handle them.
I agree, more needs to be said about the owners of these murderous dogs.
Like these owners.
I think you, and all the people who agree with you, are fucking morons. That’s exactly what hitler said that any and all jewish, the disabled, the mentally ill, and the handicap should have been exterminated just because he and his Nazi Regime thought they were “Bad People”. To say that you want all pitbulls, who are liveing, breathing creatures of god, to be exterminated just because you think they have a bad bone is a bunch of bullshit. Pitbulls are JUST DOGS. just because you mabey had a bad experience with one or think your god and know everything and decide to go on some temper tantrum rampage is a small minded pathetic attempt at proving that you are nothing more than hitler himself. What if someone decided one day that blacks of america should be exterminated becasue someone decided that they were the reason the american society is in a downcline. Do you think that person is justified in doing so?Dogs ONLY react to the way they have been treated. Ask any expert and any person that has owned a pit since its puppyhood and they will tell you the same exact thing. To say that the agressive behavior is some genetic defect is a bunch of paronoid rumors spilt out of the disgusting oraiface of some incoheriant lunitic.
Nathan, it is you, a barely literate Shit Bull™ lover who is talking about extermination.
Those of us who agree with Robbie want them neutered/spayed so they will become extinct. Not the same as gassing people to death.
Man bred them into existence, and he can reverse engineer this mistake.
Nice attempt at hyperbole, though.
It really hurts my feelings to think that people want to ban this breed. You always hear stories about how a pit bull attacked someone and killed them. You never hear about the good side of this breed. You never hear how loving and loyal they really are. But then again, you never hear that most of the dogs that do attack and hurt someone are not full blooded pit bulls, you never hear that they have been on a leash their whole lives. EVERY DOG left on a leash is going to have the potential to turn on someone if it has never been worked with or paid attention to! My pit bull (of course in my oppinion)is the best dog in the world, very obedient, never shown any aggression to anyone, she gets jumped on slapped and bit by little kids and just licks them to death. But your right, this bread is deadly! My Chiuaua is meaner than she is! I just wish everyone would looked at the good side before they say that all Pit bulls are bad dogs. Maybe we should take Pit bulls away from the people that are fighting them, otherwise, if you own a pit bull and are treating it right, i tihnk you’ve made a good decision on the family pet that you have choosen. Which by the way were originally breed to protect royalties children.
I find it really funny that in the last article, people were saying “THAT’S NOT A PIT BULL!” when it’s obviously just an image ripped off google images.
It is possible to have a pit bull that is nice with everything, even an ex-fighter. But it takes a lot of training. My sister’s dog is an APBT/Amstaff mix, bred to fight and used as a bait dog until my sister called her neighbors out on it. It took a good year of steady training, and even though she’s nearly 4 now she still has moments where they need to call her out. But! The first thing we did was train her to accept a human hand again, and she has never broken that training. She is understandably wary of strange dogs, but when my family calls her name, she down-stays instantly. She was also just involved with saving an elderly lady’s life; the woman had collapsed outside their house and the dog stood next to her and barked until my sister’s husband came out and helped her to the nearest hospital. Pit Bulls are genetically unstable toward other animals, but with the right breeder and the right training, they are good adult/older-children-only dogs. The ONLY reason this particular pit is good with ANYTHING is because of the intense training and our regular visits with our own dog.
Some people get a dog on impulse and don’t know how to handle it. And a lot of pits that end up at shelters because they’re “strays” have probably been used for fighting at some point in time, and really aren’t suitable for a first-time dog owner.
I would, however, like to make a point that any dog with guarding in it’s breed is going to know how to attack and kill. I want a doberman pinscer, but currently don’t have the money or time to devote to one. However, I would never teach that dog to do more than bark at a knock, because training for aggression is asking for trouble. There will be no shultzhund dogs in my house, and no ex-fighters or ex-bait dogs as long as I have plans to have children.
By the way, there was a story about a neighbor boy who was mauled in the yard down his street by a “large dog” (did not specify breed). What I want to know is, why was he in the yard when there was a 4ft high fence and no-trespassing signs? It is, after all, legal in my area to use “deadly force” on any intruders.
The dog in the picture on the lease is not a pitbull. It is an American Bulldog. The is a big difference between the two breeds.
been around pits all my life (37 years).I can tell the difference. Feel terrible for the kid and the family. all 3 of my kids have been around pits since birth with no problems. It’s a people problem not a dog problem. Taking responsibility for the Animals you own.
In the dog world its called breed. In the human world its called race. what your talking about is genocide. If eradicating the pit bulls is “good” decision, maybe we should sterilize african-americans because they commit more crimes and are incarcerated more often in the US than any other race? HEIL HITLER!!!!!
With Shit Bulls™ it’s a type, not a breed.
As for your reductio ad Hitlerum, it is an epic fail.
First, I think you should use spellcheck. Secondly, your attempts to divert attention away from the destruction these types of dogs cause is still tired and pathetic.
Since you live in Boondocks, Cali, and you probably don’t get around much, here is a video showing the true nature of these despicable dogs, and the damage they do with an unprovoked attack.
Guide Dog Savaged By Pit Bull.
This attack is nearly as disgusting as people like you that try and manipulate with moral equivalence.
NO2LIBERALS you are a horribly hateful and ignorant human being. I also like how on the previous page the author chose to only jump on the less educated of those opposed to his way of thinking and tactfully neglected to intelligently counter the arguments of those with valid and solid arguments. NO2LIBERALS obviously has not owned a APBT and has not the first hand knowledge as to the actual nature of these animals. I have been attacked and bitten by one who was taught to be a killer, and I now currently own two of them as a stroke of fate it would seem. My APBTs are definitely NOT the stereotype. I must admit before being their proud owner I too was afraid of the breed. First hand experience taught me different. NO2LIBERALS you are a very diluted and hypocritical person who falls subject to the “drone” life you so bitterly hate. I have experienced the good and the bad side of the breed and can say FROM KNOWLEDGE that it is absolutely imperative that the owner be consistent with their training.
That’s the truth, and I never will.
Totally false.
Wrong again, I am full strength.
As for your having been attacked, and now an owner, it just proves some people never learn.
Man, fuck you all. Its already been demonstrated that pit bulls are more likely to be involved in a fatal attack on a human than any other “type”. That much is proven. My point is that if we did eradicate this “type” of dog, and save those 15 lives in 2008, that woud just make the next dog down on the list the deadliest dog. I’ll keep it relative, what about rotts, chows or akitas or any large “type”? Should we get rid of them? What “types” of dogs do you think are safe?
Sorry Dale Dribble, I don’t swing that way.
And no, it’s not relative. The other dogs you mention, while capable of killing, they are not “grasping” dogs. They also don’t even approach the threat for maiming humans, or to livestock.
Most dogs are “safe,” including most pit bull types, but no other dog causes as much death, destruction, or misery as pits.
I just want to say, I am an owner of several American Pit Bull Terriers and most of you on here that are supposed to be “for” the breed make us all look pretty stupid. You aren’t speaking eloquently, you are claiming falsehoods to prove your points, and in general you all sound very ignorant. Please ALL OF YOU, wether for or against the breed-do your research, use spellcheck and type/write without using all the slang and text-language!
you misspelled whether.
no 2 liberals just keeps saying the same things over and over there have been several OTHER points brought up and he just uses the same defence….find another point to agrue! so what if they are “grasping” dogs? police still use them, seeing eye dog, dog shows, ect… to own a pet is a choice. no one says u have to own a pet nor does anyone else control what pet/breed u choose to get. i agree with the anonymous, “control comes from education…not extermination.”, if a dog does attack it is the owners fault. either they trained the dog that way or they didn’t take the safety precautions to prevent it from happening, IT IS NOT THE DOGS FAULT FOR DOING WHAT THEY ARE TAUGHT TO DO!! any animal, robot, even children can be trained/raised to do things a certain way.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9erwN6K9OnA
this lady tells her dog to attack..yeah so tell me its not the owners fault?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXiO_duXa5A
animal control officer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9erwN6K9OnA
this lady tells her dog to attack..yeah so tell me its not the owners fault?
I continue to repeat myself because there are more like you that cannot grasp what I am saying.
And I strongly disagree that it is all the owners fault, and not the dogs.
There are too many instances of an owners “sweetest thing” attacking a human or other animal without provocation.
You like videos, here is one for you.
It shows an owner and his dog on an outing, having a very nice day, with the pit on a leash following all his commands.
And then…it shows the true nature of this type of dog.
They grasp and don’t let go, that is the problem associated with this dog, and why it needs to just go away.
I suppose now you will blame the owner for taking his hand off the leash.
The dog did it, as have too many other pits, without provocation.
ur right for once!! i agree, i do blame the owner…. !!It Was The Owners Fault For Letting Go Of The LEASH!! That kind of behavior is the reason for leash laws. It could have been a Lab or a german shepard, either way if u’r dog doesn’t get along with other dogs muzzle them. And no matter what breed owners should ALWAYS keep the dog on a leash in public
I was being sarcastic.
You are truly pathetic.
no2 liberals….i think the same about u so we r even…i think u are pathetic b/c u want to eliminate them, u think i’m pathetic b/c i love them…get over it!
I think you are pathetic because you will allow any excuse for them. You basically admitted that they cannot be trusted for one moment without being restrained.
You are as sick in the head as anyone I have encountered.
ALL DOGS have the disposition for violence. It’s all in the training. Pit Bulls don’t have any defect in their DNA that causes them to be more violent, have locking jaws, or turn on their owners. Many of the pit bulls that have attacked people were rescues that were either trained poorly or were former fighters. There’s no way to tell how they’re going to act so training and caution is very important for these dogs. But just because there’s a stigma associated to them and their past, doesn’t give anyone the right to exterminate them from the planet. Knowledge and training is the key for Pit owners and haters as well. people own Boa constrictors, Rattle Snakes and poisonous spiders that have gotten loose and killed people. Do we kill all of them too? I knew a guy who had a parrot the attacked him and blinded him in one eye. Do we kill all the birds while were at it.
Did the creator of this string get attacked by a Pit or something? Where does this hatred come from?
I tottaly agrree mate its all in the training, and yeh the majority of them where rescue dogs. 100% agree with you
I think that it is terrible for the people who have died. but let me be honest, noo matter what the dog its how you raise them. dogs are to be loved but raise them wrong and this is the result the same with any dog. i have 2 staffordshire bull terriers and they are amazing, the kiss my parrotts. soo raise the dog wrong and thats the fault of the owen raise the dog rite and you wont have the grief, i am sorry for all those people who have died. but dont just blame the animal the raiser is also somebody to blame. dogs are to be loved other whys why get them. i tottally disagree with banning this breed. raise them rite and your be shown respect its like the same as bringing up children and any other thing that needs a raising on this planet thank you.
consider that a dog is as its owner trains it to be or the enviroment it is put in. The pitbull can be breeded with non docile animals such as english bulldog before completely erracticated.
The person who made this site act’s as thought they know the facts but are as ignorant as the bad owners of this bully breed. Pits are one of the most loving, loyal and kind dog’s around. The prob lies with first bad breeding and treatment from owners, but beyond that it’s people like you highlighting all the bad happening’s and jumping on the breed as a bad animal. Some of the thing’s you said are complete bull shit. Not that the pits involved in some of these unfortunate situations should not be dealt with accordingly but it’s the owners and breeders that need to be dealt with to solve this issue not the banning of this beautiful loving dog you DICK. Smarten up and SHUT THE FUCK UP, keep your negative non since bull shit to yourself. And this is directed at not only the writer of this site but also you heartless hateful bastards who wrote your negative mind puke on here as well,(You PEOPLE ARE PROB THE ONES WHO HATE EVERYONE WHO IS NOT YOUR OWN RACE TOO.
wow. not all pits are bad dogs. ive never come across a single one. all animals can be deadly if it came down to it. dalmations, rotties, huskeys. are to name a few that are known to be vicious. every dog is mean. not just a pit. and i hate the way people are so easy to judge one. pisses me off. pits arnt the only dog used as a fighting dog, they are just more popular to use, because they have a strong jaw. dog fighting all together is fucking pathetic, and anyone that fights them should be put to death. i dont think they should ban all pits. just do a full extensive backround check on the person who wants to purchase the dog. i love this breed to death. as to any other breed of dogs.
omg. you want to ban a fucking horse? pathetic. what else are you gonna have banned? a fucking bird? wouldnt surprise me. animals are not here for nothing. they serve a purpose just like people do. people kill more then anything else. you gonna have us banned too? media lies. not everything you are told is the truth. people in general piss me off. >.< so fucking ignorant.
I LOVE PITT -BULLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
it is the owner not the breed wat the hek is wrong with u
weirdo
Ban these killers now! These “breed” had only one purpose and it is to fight and kill , If you have kids you should know that these kind of dogs like to attack small children,just read the stadistics the numbers do not lie.Dog owners are not the same kind of people who owns a pitbull, cause they only do that for showoff, legistators be with the people, Ban the pitbulls now!
From Orlando Fl. the place for family not for killing pitbulls
You know if you actually did your research you would know that according to the SPCA temperament testing pitbulls are in the 82 percentile MEANING that 82% of pitbulls pass behavioral testing..
now are you ready .. golden retrievers are in the 70 percentile.. only 70% pass behavior testing
human aggression is not a breed trait .. and they are known for being very good with children.. I have 2 pitbull mixes and a 5 year old.. so now I’m a bad parent?
your other post leads me to ask questions.. and the first is WHAT was that child doing to that dog??
that is something we will never know because that is something no one will admit to..I am willing to bet money that the child was unsupervised with the dog and was antagonizing it.
a lot of dog attacks from family dogs comes from unsupervised children annoying the animal..
my child is never alone with the dogs.. not because I don’t trust my dogs .. but because you shouldn’t leave children unattended with animals.
you know you say a lot of bad things about pitbulls. do you know any? have you ever been around one?
or are you just a sucker for media..
there is 2 sides to every story.. the media feeds off of peoples fear, a lot of stories are one sided and often exaggerated.. so go ahead and be an uneducated media whore…
your definitely not fully home upstairs…
would also like to say.. that big white dog in your original post isn’t even a pitbull …
i do not think that pits should be banned because some people raise them to hurt my family is a pit and husky family and we have six pits and 3 huskys for one i would like to say that the amount of dogs we have is large but we have adopted most of the now my husky is has bite my sister in the face more the one time my pit has never biten anybody i hate people that think just because one pit did this and another one did that that they all become bad dogs my next door neighbor had a black lab get put down just yesterday because he had to get surgey the dog jumped through the living room window and attacked the guy well racking his lawn now you dont hear people talking smack about black labs i just got another pit pure white with blue eyes she is six months old and its going to be my daughters birthday present because thats all she has been begging me for is a doggy like daddys but she wants a white one so that she can name it snow white they really are not bad dogs they just have a bad name and that s why you never get a pit if you rent an apartment the landlord will make you pay more a month for rent
The greastest thing about this whole thread is the authors facts. It says PITBULL type dogs wich can include over 30 breeds.What I love most about it is the dog in the eaerlier thread was an American Bulldog. WEich all goes with the misidentification of breeds.The sad thing is this is mainly media hype.At one point in time Dobermans,Rottweilers,St. Bernards,Great Danes and many other breeds were the dogs to be banned. What is sad to me is the call for the ban of dogs and not the call for further education. Education of dog owners,parents,And children.So many attacks by all the diffrent breeds could have been stopped. But instead lets fight over false factrs that you can pull from DogBites.org or the CDC who both have admitted to false reporting on attacks. So I will leave this thread with on thing and that is to educate yourselves.Do not let the workds and facts of me or the writer of these threads and educate yourself. Not an owner of APBTs I am an owner of Rottweilers the other devil dog.Also just a lover of animals and of people we were here with APBTs all the way back to beyond the 1900s whats going wrong now is it us or the dogs?
most of the statistics are flawed because of incorrect identification of the dogs. many boxer mix dogs and other bulldogs are identified as “pitbulls” in the media. for your information, these dogs arent bred for aggression. any established breeder (of any breed) looks for good qualities in looks, temper, health, etc. most people who terrorize this breed and their owners have never personally had a bad experience with pitbulls themselves. if these dogs are so aggressive towards children, tell me why my 2 and 6 year-old cousins can control my pit. he obeys their every word as if they were two grown men. why dont you go FOSTER a pit for a couple months, you dint even have to own it. after youve had one of these AMAZING dogs you’ll understand why all of us idiotic owners say theyre the sweetest thing because they are
From Friday 16 Apr 2010.
ur stupid to think that pitbuuls will be banded
Typical.
Before you start casting stones at others for being “stupid,” you might want to consider your own 2nd grade reading/writing skills. For the record, Mensa, it’s:
“You’re stupid to think that pit bulls will be banned.”
Why do I get the feeling that you’re writing this barely-literate missive from an old PC running Windows 98 over a dial-up connection from a run-down rented trailer on the outskirts of Mesquite, TX, with your “pet” pit bull chained up to a stake in the middle of a grass-less front yard with not-quite enough slack to get to the mailman dropping off your welfare checks, all while your Uncle-in-law cooks up a fresh batch of meth out back in the shed?
LMFAO!
BWAHAHAHAHA!!!
Man..that’s classic…
Wow you are gay, you made me crack up, who says things like that, hahaha
You’re gay.
That fit the profile for a large percentage of pitbull owners..not all but a large percent..the other large percent is gang bangers…
The smaller percent are the nice people that have nice homes, and children…till the dog turns on them and eats one.
We also need to start a movement to have all deer in the world killed. More humans are killed by deer each year in the USA than any other animal. Not only that, but those tricky bastards can get more than one person at once! Imagine one of those 15 person vans, getting terrorized and run off the road by those damned deer! 15 people killed by just 1 deer!With over 20 million deer in the US alone, if they all did that much damage, that’s over 340 million casualties! The entire population of the United States! Fear the deer! Or don’t. You also have the option of making an informed decision with your own brain cells and acting accordingly. And one last nugget for though. Once all the pits are gone, then Rotties will be the most dangerous dogs. We’ll have to eliminate those of course. Then comes the German Shepard. Because they are used so much by police officers, they rank #3 on the list of “most dog bites by breed”. Rounding out the top 10 are the Husky, the Alasken Malamutes, the Pinscher, the Chow Chow, the Presa Canario, the Boxer and the Dalmation. They all must go! And then the next 10 and so on. Soon there will be no more dogs. Oh well. After all, it’s important that we take the most drastic and irreversible steps first. Save time and money that way!
Jesi, you really aren’t a deep thinker, nor are you funny.
It isn’t about which dog bites the most often, it is about this type of dog that does the most damage when it does.
We can’t ban stupid people like you, but we can at least remove this type of dog so you can’t have them.
Like the owners in this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmChg0vrg8U&feature=player_embedded
I do not think that the pitbull breed should be banned or destroyed, i think that they should be left alone. Dogs are mans best friend and one of the most loyal animals. It is not the dogs fault for what they are taught. The way the animal is raised depends on how it is going to act and that goes for any animal. For example if you have a cat who is not socialized then when it is a mature cat then it will not like the interaction with humans and will bite and defend itself and if it was as big as a dog it probally would kill too. We dont try to ban or destroy the cats do we? Also what we need to take into consideration is they were breed for many years to fight and bull baiting. It is not their fault they have instincts. Thoose instincts can be removed by an owner who knows how to socialize their animal and how to raise it correctly. When a dog attacks another animal it is cause it believes that it is what is is supposed to do and it is mostly cause it feels threatened or that the other animal is hurting it. If a human felt threatened or thought it was getting hurt is it supposed to just sit there? i dont think so, so just leave them alone and if the owners child, themselfs or another gets hurt cause of its dog it is their fault not the dogs. They should be the one blammed not the dog.
This is an interesting conversation. I’m learning more about how people think than I am about dogs.
- Statistics don’t tell stories. They have to be interpreted by someone who knows how. That’s why it’s called the “devil’s math”.
– example: the mortality of all men over age 50 who have ever used tobacco is 100%. This sounds good but has no substance other than to say that everyone’s gonna die someday.
- Of course they’re dangerous animals. That’s the whole point. No other breed of canine can or will successfully engage an angry bull, bear or lion …. Or reliably defend their masters in the face of certain death.
– I can’t actually believe there are people who advocate the wholesale destruction an animal like this:
- Unfortunately, most pit-type owners have no idea how powerful, intelligent, and therefore, dangerous, these creatures are. Thousands of years of guided darwinian selection ensure it. So dangerous in fact that any in the past who exhibited aggression toward humans were not allowed live.
– They absolutely must be regularly trained, perpetually restrained, and correctly fed and exercised. Their instincts need to be satisfied on a daily basis. A bored, untrained, under-stimulated pit bull is a when problem, not an if problem.
- For those posters who have thought they would use violence to attempt to stop any attack; please do your homework and get control of your emotions before hand. In the unfortunate event of an attack, you will be best off with bear spray, and next a small stick to wedge the animals jaws open. Insert near the back. Remember: There’s lots of these things around and they are bred for combat – you and me aren’t. Also, as much as you can avoid, don’t use a harsh voice tone or bare your teeth at the owner. Despite the fact they most likely deserve it.
I think this is a symptom of our times, and really has very little to do with the animal.
for those of you defending the beloved pit, please make sure to spell your words correctlky and use proper grammer…you may have a good point but the way you spell or phrase it may make you sound ignorant. we will never be able to convince these people that pits are wonderful dogs, because not all of them are. the ones who are raised with boundaries and limitations, lots of exercise and structure would never be put in the position to bite or attack anyone. love is not the answer when owning a pit. yes i love my pit bull, but with love alone could kill him if he ever hurt anyone. i have four dogs, two of which are “power breeds” being a pit bull and a rot. i am a groomer and they accompany me to work everyday. i trust each and every one of my dogs but that doesn’t mean i give up the structure and limitations just because they’re at work, i can’t predict the behavior of someone elses dog or what may the pack mentality may be. i have not had any incidents with any of my dogs ever, but that’s because, in my opinion, i am responsible and give my dogs what they need before they meet my own needs. i think it’s responsible anyways to spay and neuter you pets, period. not because we should make a certain breed die out, but because of pet overpopulation and the numerous health benefits spaying and neutering offers. all my dogs came from shelters, even my pit who came to us at almost two years old. it’s not about the past or how they were raised….they don’t remember 5 years ago or even 5 minutes ago. they live in the moment that’s why it’s so easy to shape any dog into what you want them to be. i don’t know all the stats, but i do believe any “bully breed” that attacks does more damage then lets say a poodle. they’re gladiators it’s what they were bred to do, but banning them isn’t the answer. people need to wake up and put their dogs needs first instead of drowning the dog with love and attention. dogs are dogs, treat them that way and, in my opinion, you will never have to worry about being on the news because you’re beloved backyard, chained-up pit bull got loose and attacked someone. just my two cents
Hmmm, what a long list of comments on this one…my friend got a pit…said it was a sweet loving dog…took it to a training school and everything…i went to visit her and noticed right away that her dog is creepy. Had “that look”…like it would rip you to shreds if it had the chance…I ignored it while sitting on the couch after she made me pet it..I had heard not to look them in the eye as not to provoke them…one day we all went to this little park with all our kids and she showed up with it..i was very nervous…she loves the dog very much but it only took that first look for me to know it had something “missing” in the brain…a violent side that may be hidden to her but was obvious to me..well lo and behold, it tried to attack the kids and thank goodness my friend had a hold on the dog well so thank God the children were not shredded to pieces. And the kids were not even near the dog, they were minding their own business playing by the water…her dog is dangerous…i had a pit mix many years ago (other side of the argument but still makes me wonder) that was a brindle pit. She was very loving and played with my child and my friend’s children often…never was agressive once..however, one night I had to walk to the corner store. I was standing outside for a moment and had her on the leash and 5 men came out of the business next door to have a cigarette…she immediately crouched and growled and attempted to attack, something I had not seen her do before and she was 3 years old but what i gathered from her behavior is that she would have immediately attacked them if she was not on the leash…they did not provoke her at all…I thought at first that it was good to have a dog that was there to protect me…I also was grateful I had her on the leash…seeing her attack one of those poor guys would have been terrible and costly for me. I loved her dearly but now that I am older, I realize that regardless of loving them and being kind, they do have a way more agressive side that can pop out at any time..and not just from these two incidents..these are just two examples of what I have seen. I have not gone over to my friends house after her dog tried to attack our children. I love her but her dog is a monster waiting to happen..the dog is kind to her owners..and even her daughter…but God help the neighbors if it ever gets out of the back yard. Some people may call this being protective…but I don’t think so..you can see it in their eyes..and inbreeding..some sort of violent rage that may lie dormant but can come out at any time…so many people on this list of comments state “I have blah number of pits and blah number of children and my pit just licks them to death…well, it’s those same parents that later regret when their dog kills someone and says, “I’ve never seen them agressive..I don’t know how this happened”…People say it is the owner not the dog but my friend as well as myself raised ours with nothing but love and training (and they were trained)…and they both showed a horrible violent side out of the blue…I choose to stay away from them now…I live in Texas and hear reports often of pits attacking people and children…is it bad owners? Or is it the dog…Evil owners are out there but in my experience..the dogs had violence in their blood. I do not hate them, I just choose to stay away from them now. And keep my children as far away from them as possible. Be careful. You never know.
ur an idiot. “The dog tried to attack the children” yet right after that you say they were nowhere near it… If it aint Pit.. It aint SHIT~ i hope YOU get bit~!!
You just proved your a gang member by your statement.
JD, thanks for being such an inelegant spokesperson for these dogs.
I won’t bother addressing your obvious illiteracy, but I must correct you on one thing.
If it’s a Pit, it is Shit.
That’s my point dumbass…the kids were near the water NOT bothering the stupid dog and it decided to try and attack them for NO REASON.
That original post was over year ago and I refuse to be any where near that dog again…and I’ve heard they have a new baby recently, sure hope the dog doesn’t eat it…
New story today in San Antonio…
http://www.kens5.com/news/SAPD-Pit-bull-attacks-drunk-man-who-was-arguing-with-wife.html
Good dog~!
Wow…here’s a new one..a typical dog the family had since it was a baby…”the sweetest dog in the world that wouldn’t hurt a fly…”
http://www.fox8.com/news/wjw-dog-bites-girl-killed-with-hammer-txt,0,1410084.story
I’m no fan of the pit bull — but I too think that the guy went to far in beating the pit bull to death with a hammer, and am glad that he’s also being charged with animal cruelty, because that’s what it was.
I agree..that’s very brutal…and sad…it just goes to show though, these dogs can be very dangerous in a moments notice…
i hope you get this comment and i hope you grow some balls and e-mail me. anyone who thinks pit bulls are a vicious breed is just plain ignorant. i know 3 people that all quincidently have a full grown pitty and a pup pitty. all those pitts are nice loving animals. in fact one opf those 3 people is my uncle. when i sleep at his house i sleep with them. they wake me up in the mourning when they want to go out by licking me. those to pit bulls live with to kittens. the most harm they do to the cats is nearly dround them with their kisses. the second person has a nice sweet black and white pit bull with glossy eyes. as nice as he is he used to be one of the few mean vicious threatning pittys. he had killed at least 100 athor dogs before he was rescued. with some dicipline if i hadnt told you you never would have known. it frustrates me when people like you are ignorant and spread how “vicious” they are
Calling others ignorant while demonstrating yours is not a winning strategy.
Pit bulls are feared and hated due to their ability to cause so much damage, this doesnt mean they will its just the fact they have the potential. I love pit bulls, I have grown up with them my whole life, I own 3 rescue pits I saved from shelters that came from fighting rings and I also have 3 children. With proper training techniques, diet and obedience these have been great dogs. It take special kinds of people to own these dogs and handle them properly. They get a bad name due to bad owners and bad breeders. My children have grown up around pit bulls and I must say. They can waller all over them and get in there faces, smack them in the head, pull on there balls. These dogs just take it. They have a really high threshold for pain and are GREAT I repeat GREAT dogs to raise with kids. No dog will protect your children or family like a pit bull will. They love attention and they love children. they are a playful and energetic breed. A stranger was driving through my neighborhood and saw my 3 year old and 6 year old daughters playing in the yard, my 6 year old said he was wanting to take them to the park in his car, t some point he came to close to my girls, The two pit bulls I have outside in the fence are brothers and seen the man get out of his car, they jumped the fence and took off after the man, going crazy trying to eat him, and biting at his door and window. The man has not came around since. You dont hear the good stories about pitbulls only the bad ones where people are hurt, and you never get to see the real nature of the breed or how great they realy are as family dogs. My pit bulls have never shown any type of aggression or posed even a small threat to me or anyone in my family. I have had them for a long time, more than 2-3 years. And I have owned this breed my entire life. None have ever harmed anyone.
Man severely injured by his own pit bulls.
They were just the “sweetest things.”
Again,
My I inquire as to your education level Lee?
And why do you think it is a good thing that you keep pit bulls in a yard where they can jump the fence and attack people ?
A distinct lack of sensibility
Please learn more about your breed
And of course…it says that they never saw the dog act like this before…
http://www.kgw.com/news/Police-shoot-pit-bull-mauling-Portland-man-95266679.html
But…but…but…it was the sweetest thing.
It really is frightening that people believe this dog is not innate to being violent…
people talk so much shit about pit bulls its pathetic…i own 2 of them as inside dogs and i trust my dogs around other people and there kids more than i trust some of the so called gangsta thugs that walk the streets killing people these days..try putting up pics of dogs on there good behavior where they are being lap dogs and loving dogs instead of portraying them as a killing machine…yes they are protective when it comes to there owners or the ones they love but what dogs are not…stupid ass people…get a life go pick on another breed of dog for a change like the rottweiler or the pinsher they are just as aggressive
Look dude i dont know why the hell you would want pit bulls to get banned, they are kind loving animals, my parents had a pitbull with me since i was born literaly the one that was with me since birth died when i was 13 and im still alive, she didnt kill me when i was a baby!! my parents love pitts and we have always had one in our house, so dont say that they arent good with kids because they are!
I love Pitbulls, the only “shit bull” around here is NO2LIBERALS
k , im 16 now and i own 3 pit bulls. and before thise i owned 3 more and even bread them. they never bit me or anyone. they defended m y brother when the nieghbors german shepherd got in the yard and got his arm they cahsed the shepherd away and then barked until we came outside. the dogs never were trained in there life. and ontop of it my 5 year old autisitic brother grabs my youngest pitbull(3yrs)and drags it by her ear and legs into his room and throws here on his bed all she does is wag her tail and lick him. pitbulls have a bed reputation because when they do attack they dont stop. i do know that as a pit owner but they need to pused very far to do anything.
i think you answered your question about this breed at the begining of this post “pitbull type dogs” there are more than 20 breeds that fit into that catagory so why ban just 1 in SYDNEY this breed is banned and the ones that ARE ALIVE have been fixed! but yet i can still find pups from pure bred even some beautiful blues
back on track they are band because people beleive what they hear that the dog was a pitbull oh the best pitbull cross basically any dog that is not pure or does not have papers is listed as a pitbul
i have owned 3 pitbulls 1 that was a fighting pitbull whos drive was inspiring never !never had 1 turnned! these dogs APBT are not human agresive
i will repeat that true American Pitbull Terriors are not breed to be human agressive
you will never have a APBT attact a human unless it is defending his owner even if its own life is thretend it wont bit his owner
kids are not ment to be around any anamals an supervised there have been more dog attacks from cattle german sheperd dogs than APBT’s in AUS
so i will leave you with that info and please think how sure are you that that pitbull was an APBT !
Last day i saw a pitbull attacked a smaller dog and killed him instantly.. Since we cnanot educate all people, it is for our goodness to ban those vicious animals.
Thanks to our government, they banned selling , exporting , breeding this monsters.
sorry but in my opinion, those animals humnaly must be put in sleep..
I would just like to say something. im 23 years old now. when i was 6 i wss attacked by 2 black labs. i recieved 150 stitches on my left leg and im missing half my lower lip.. i dont judge the breed at all. there are dog attacks everyday in the world. Pit bull attacks are the only ones to be reported and made into huge deal. i think its time you people start to use the the very brain god gave you and stop pointing fingers at a animal and begin to take some blame for your own actions on raising and treating the animal. i have a 3 year old daughgter and a 15year old american pit bull living in the same house hold. they are best of friends. why? because i treat my dog with the love he deserves. all animals can be act out. it’s all about the situation the animal is put in. grow up people and learn to take blame yourself! thanks
I have heard this same type of bullshit for years, it is the modus operandi of the Shit Bull™ crowd.
Like in this instance, the comments are almost a copy/paste of this thread.
So what you’re saying is, that that woman’s experience has no value? That what she went through, being attacked by dogs that America considers lovable, and that from my experience working in dog kennel says that most families own, is a freak experience?
Pit bulls ARE focused on, and the ones reported because people are already scared. Show me a golden retriever attacking and pit bull attacking – which one do you think will make it on the news?
It’s kind of sick that you pretty much just said “Go fuck yourself” to the above poster.
Yeah, I pretty much said that, but in your case I will leave no doubt.
Go Fuck Yourownself.
Pit Bulls are beautiful pets if you’re a responsible owner. I am proud owner of one and she has never shown ONE sign of aggression. Anyone who has a problem with pits should take the time to get to know one… Then you can complain, assholes.
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As someone who works in a boarding kennel, I work with dogs day in and day out. And I can say that before working there, I had no particular stance one way or the other with pit bulls. And I can say also, that three years into my job, I adore pitbulls with every bone in my body. I have NOT ONCE met a pitbull that was aggressive towards me, or any of the other staff members. TRUE, about a third of them do have some type of dog aggression, but the same can be said for Labs, Golden Retrievers, and most small dogs! I am more concerned about entering the room of a Pomeranian or Dachschund than I am a Pitbull!
After purchasing two of my own (Bruiser and Sasha, the latter of the two was a rescue from an owner who had kicked her head so hard she lost her eye) I don’t see any reason not to love these dogs. Bruiser is perfectly content in the company of both people and other animals. Sasha, after all she’s been through, still can’t wait to meet new people, and while a little wary of other dogs, she warms up very quickly!
I’ve had people tell me I should kill my dogs, or they’ll do it for me. At first, it made me angry. Now, I just sigh and keep walking. The true purpose of these companion dogs has been skewed yes, by “thugs”. But that doesn’t change the true nature of Pit Bulls – wonderful companion animals who really, seriously, wouldn’t hurt a fly.
I come from a middle-class family. We are regular, working people. After seeing my dogs, my Mother who is TERRIFIED of Pitbulls, got her own. All of my friends are perfectly comfortable being around my dogs.
The only problem I ever have with any pitbull I have ever met, is that they might lick me to death.
kailyn,
what is your education level and that of your mother ?
that will help me to explain your love for such a brutal animal to the next person who asks me “why to people want these dogs ?”
Mr Roth, DVM
PS I will not treat pitbulls in my practice
Personally I rescued a pitbull last year and he’s the greatest dog I’ve ever owned. I say its not about the dog, it about the owner. I constantly train Buddy every single day. Everyday I get up take him for a mile walk, we train in the backyard on comands for and hour. And then later in the day we practice on the comands again for another hour. He’s so well trained that he will follow comands from our neighbors and complete strangers.
Its not about the breed, its all about the owner. I have a large family with 4 other younger siblings and he easily follows comands from them also. Not to mention that I also have another dog (miniature italian greyhound- rescued puppymill dog) and they get along beautifully.
I own 3 pit bulls and have 3 children. Brain 7, Meghan 6, and Tasha 2. Brain my oldest was brutly attacked when he was 3. By a black lab. The jumped my 4 foot chain link fence to get to my son. He charged him and grabbed him on the back of the arm. And rolled him. I couldn’t do anything but scream and run toward him. My pit jo-Jo saved him. Yes he killed the lab to get him off my son and also was badly injured himself. I had 2 pits at that time my other almost went through the window to get him. The lab had bit 2 other people and killed cats rabbits and other wild life offen. So should all labs be destroyed now becuase they attacked my son ? No I blame the owner who saw signs in the dog as it was growing up and didn’t do the right thing and out the dog down. My pit saved my son.
NO2LIBERALS, you sound like the typical pit hater, quoting the media or some unreliable site like dogsbite.org while ignoring the facts. But it’s okay, continue living in your little fantasy world.
A ringing endorsement from someone who is already there.
DR ROTH I would think for a vet that you would know a thing or two about dogs, but sadly that isn’t the case. Quite ironic that you accuse someone else of being stupid.
A three-year-old Virginia boy was admitted to the hospital with “extensive injuries”. The child was attacked by a dog described as a Golden Retriever mix. The wounds to the child required 300 stitches. The child was further described as requiring additional surgeries to “functionally repair muscles, nerves and work on scars”. This incident was reported in only two local newspapers.
• A 3-year-old girl was admitted to Children’s Hospital in Denver with serious lacerations to her face and head. The hospital declined to release the child’s name or information on her condition. She had been attacked at her home by a dog believed to be a Labrador Retriever. This attack was reported four times and only in Colorado outlets.
• An Indiana woman was attacked and knocked to the ground by a dog identified as a German Shepherd. The dog she was walking, a small Sheltie mix was also attacked. Neighbors responded and managed to restrain the German Shepherd, but not before the woman was bitten twice in the face. Her small dog was so gravely injured that it was euthanized. This incident was reported in only one local newspaper.
• An 11-year-old California girl was bitten in the leg and received “serious, but not life-threatening injuries”, when she was attacked by two pit bulls. Her injuries required hospitalization. This incident was reported in over ninety national and international newspapers. Forbes, FOX News, the Washington Post, the Los Angeles Times, the Chicago Tribune, and dozens of other major news organizations headlined this “Pit Bull Attack”
Adam, I don’t hate the dogs, just what too many of them do.
Whoever wrote the article is a f*&king idiot. Im willing to bet youre a liberal too… not that politics has anything to do about this, but buy the total lack of logic and knowledge you show as you write. Its sux the kid died, but blame the parrents, not the dog.
Wow…what a dumbfuck you are…
kailyn-
Ur a nieve bitch. just sayin’.
Gang member statement again. Kailyn’s statement was agreeing with you except for the thug comment. Which means you must be one.
I can’t even read all the comments; there are are so many and frankly EVERY ONE from BOTH sides of this argument are ticking me off.
Yes, pitbulls were bred to be fighters however whose fault is that? The pitbulls? It was humans who bred the dogs for such disgusting and vile deeds and it is humans who continue to train them to be fighters, it is humans who mishandle them, it is humans who jump to false conclusions about them, it is humans who abuse them, it is humans who instigate thier behavor and it is the HUMANS who have a conscience which gives them ability to distiguish right from wrong. Therefore it is humans who are at fault here, not the dogs.
As long as there are people in this world who use this dog for foul and evil purposes, there will always be “viciouse” “violent” “mindless baby killing” pitbulls. The only way to fix that “problem” is to eliminate the source; which means destroying the entire human race? I mean why not? We’re so willing to wipe pitbulls off the face of the earth but they are only the product of OUR evil.
Pitbulls are dogs. They react according to thier instinct just like any onther animal. They do not know the diffrence between what is morally right and what is morally wrong. They simply learn and know what is expected of them from thier pack leader because that is thier instinct, that is part of thier character trait as a dog. They follow and obey thier pack leader and most all dogs have been raised to believe that humans for the most part are thier superiors; therefore, humans are thier pack leaders. However, if thier pack leader is flawed they will be to.
Without a pack leader, ALL dogs will react to either thier “fight or flight” aspect of thier instinct. I can promise you, that dog that attacks a child is not sitting there before hand thinking, “hmmmm, I think I’ll maul this kid and tear him up a little bit just for the heck of it.” Something triggers thier fight instinct and that trigger can be any number of things but that dog will not act with out a reason.
Is that reason justified? To the dog it is but that is because he lacks the intelligance which we humans posses. I’m trying to say that pitbulls are dumb animals just like any other living creature on this earth that isn’t human. They have no concept of justice, no concept of right or wrong, no concept of kindness or forgivness. HUMANS have that ability. There is NO ONE to blame in this situation other than the humans that have mishandled, abused, and judged these animals like they are a fully knowlegable human being that knows better.
And if your going to attack pitbulls and deem them unfit for exsisting because off mauling,killing and biting people, attack and destroy chihuahuas, german sheppards, poodles, lions and bears and sharks and hippos and snakes and monkeys and gators and most of all HUMANS! If your gunna erase one from the face of the earth because of acts of brutal violance, you better erase them all, ESPECIALLY the humans. We don’t have the luxury of blaming our instincts because we KNOW BETTER.
You weren’t doing to bad until the last paragraph, Jonna.
Chihuahuas/sheps/poodles…etc. don’t do the damage pits do. It isn’t about which dog bites the most, or even which is the most aggressive, it is about this type of dog that kills and maims more than any other dog.
We have a justice system for humans that kill and maim.
Could a Chihuahua or two do this?
So because the smaller dogs dont do as much damage, your saying its ok for them to bite as long as they bite just a little bit. WOW!!!! thats all I can say
Ignorant and with poor reasoning skills.
Please tell me you are sterile.
Duh, a tiny dog bite is completely different from psychotic pit bulls causing almost 4000 damage to a vehicle…or ripping a human to shreds…they are vicious inbred animals that can turn in an instant on anyone.
I would have run the filthy dogs over if I could…
How can you be so fuckin ignorant and bash mother fuckin pits.
Everyone that has something bad to say about pits can rot in hell,burst into flames,have the skin removed from your flesh and have your heart tore out, your neck slit and then have someone shit in the slit of your neck.
I have a 4 month old daughter, and two pits in the house with her, and they love and protect her with every fiber of their being, she laughs when they lick her, YES I SAID LICK NOT FUCKIN BITE!!!!!!
I believe that their the most loving and loyal breed id be more worried about having a police dogs German Shepard around my daughter then our two best friends pits, Romeo and Houch are two beautiful and loving dogs and when me and my husband get our own place i will be getting my own, so fuck you and the goddamn horse you rode in on and i hope you get raped by that horse and a fuckin gorilla BITCH!
Looks like child protective services in Iowa needs to be called. All they have to do is follow the sound of a foul mouthed, ignorant woman.
Hey Tina, were you at the state fair recently?
Oh my Gawwwwd! That chick is a fuckin FREAK!!!
I feel sorry for her kid…
NO2, just be glad she was writing that (which is amazing she can spell at all) because if she were in front of you, she would be spraying you with spit due to her lack of teeth.
Tina Trailer Trash, you should show a bit more respect to the man that contributes to your welfare checks and food stamps. Obviously when you and your Husband/Brother DO move out of that trailer and into your own, it will be NO2′s Taxes that pay for it all. In the meantime I think you owe NO2 a big apology and a huge thank you for his hard earned taxes that feed you and your brother, I mean Husband *wink*, your baby, the healthcare and money you receive to even exist.
Tina, don’t let this misjudged individual have a negative effect on yours and my decision to own this amazing breed. He is just another person who only see’s the negative side to everything and uses everyone else’s negative and degrading words for his own information.
Who did that…you?
I own a pit bull and have my friends children around her constantly. She shows no agression at all and never has from puppy till now. I met both her parents when I purchased her as well and never had an issue with them as when I walked in the home they walked up and licked my hand and wanted to play. Yes with a complete stranger zero angered temperment. Now for all you single track minded individuals you should stop and look at the breed as nice caring and loyal dogs to everyone in your family. I have her around elderly and a preschool on a regular occurance. Now think about this with you one tracked minds that it is not the dogs fault for anything any dog can be nice and aggresive. She plays with our other dog a boxer and a chihuahua all day long in the back yard and never leaves a scratch on either if anything my boxer plays more rough then she does. The main cause behind any angered dog is its OWNER, remember that its their OWNER not them. The animal learns from us not on it’s own or it’s bloodline. I was bit by more little dogs and by hunting dogs them a pitbull, boxer, rottweiler, or a doberman. Every single one I have came into contact with over my years have been some of the best dogs I have ever met in my life. So next time you try to knock on a breed do your homework a lot of pitbull’s are used as service dogs and are loyal to the entire family to the day they die.
Your story about your dog and your experience is anecdotal.
You haven’t done your homework and you really should.
How about facts instead of anecdotes?
From the very, very animal friendly magazine, Animal People, comes the following study in pdf form.
Dog attack deaths and maimings, U.S. & Canada
September 1982 to December 22, 2009
You can keep on quoteing from every website and everyone else’s negative experiences but have you actually dealt with the breed YOURSELF. Yes you read everyone’s negative comments posteed on the internet but any closed minded person can do that. If you look for something wrong with anything you will find it thats a fact of life. The breed itself has a bad reputation but that is because of the owner’s irreguard to treat anything with respect and treat the animal to be aggresive and to harm. So there Mr. Liberal before you come back with another come back of a copy and paste actually dig into your little pea brain and think for yourself and answer this: Have I MYSELF had any incidents with pitbulls? Was I ever in direct harm from a pitbull? Was any other dog aggresive towards me? and the list can go on. Try to answer these and not with a copy and paste from someone else’s words and then talk about the breed.
Okay, I thought perhaps you might have some redeeming value, but I was wrong.
You are just another fucked in the head Shit Bull™ supporter without the capacity to comprehend information with your limited intellect.
Fuck you and your anecdotes.
Look at you Mr. Toughguy needing to use profanity to attempt to make your words forceful. Instead it just shows that your intellect stretches about as far as your knowledge on the breed of pitbulls. Like I stated before it is not the breeds fault it is the owner of the animal. They are trained by us not by themselves and when we teach them to be one way or another they will follow. Now also take a look and see that all those questions were not answered which clearly is identified by your instantanious explosion of profanity trying to take the attention of your little knowledge of the animal. All you are capable of is plagiarism. Using someone else’s words and beliefs and negative comments to attempt to change everyone’s mind set on the issue. Now until you are able to post actual first hand accounts with the breed I believe you should just stop trying to act like you are knowledgeable about the animal and keep from wasteing everyone’s time by writing your acticle’s posted by others before you. Have a good day Mr. Genius.
*yawn*
I’ve been hearing that lie for far too long.
You claim to be some kind of authority because you claim to own one. Big Whoop!
You ignore all the information available and blame the owners, and when that fails you probably blame the victims too, like so many others.
I cite a study, but you refuse to even read or consider it. I have posted many others up above on this thread.
You are the worst kind of asshole, intellectually lazy.
Be gone.
Like I said you also ignore the fact that you have no first hand experience with the animal yourself. Obviously I am not intellectually lazt considering I know the facts of the animal and it’s backround being TRAINED to fight not on it’s own let me sat it again for your special needs learning ability, they were TRAINED to be that way. Yes I do own one so I have first hand knowledge unlike you only taking information off everyone else stating that you know everything by using someone else’s negative opinion. Now for calling me the worst kind of asshole apparently you might just want to reconsider your words due to the main asshole in your words are the individuals like yourself using everyone else’s derogitory opinions toward this subject. Oh and Be Gone what are you from a Medevil era serioursly try to come up with some better come backs.
You ignorant dolt. You didn’t even look at the info I posted.
You have no idea of my experience with this genetic mistake of a dog.
Your inability to grasp info from other sources other than your precious little Pooky shows what a dolt you are.
I have gotten Shit Bull™s banned by my homeowners association and am frequently reminding my state legislators that my state needs a BSL so that this mistake of a breed can be banned, like so many other wise communities have done.
Trying to educate an idiot like you was my mistake here, not realizing what a mental midget you were.
Not attacking you or anything, just wondering… but do you have experience with the breed?
Have you or any of your loved ones been attacked by one? Or just any bad personal experiences besides seeing news reports and studies?
You may have answered in an above post, but there ARE are almost 350 responses…
My experiences with, and dislike of this type of dog, go back to the 80′s, long before the internet gave me the ability to research how destructive they truly are.
A good friend of mine had his life ruined by his supposed “sweetest thing” family pit when it badly mauled his son’s best friend without provocation.
I also have a brother that is a vet that will not allow one in his clinic, even with a muzzle.
What most defenders of the breed fail to understand about my opposition to this type of dog is that it is not about which dogs are the most aggressive or bite the most. It is about this dog that kills and maims the most, most often with members of its own family. I believe most of these dogs aren’t a problem, but it is obvious that the percentage that are cause far too much damage.
Banning them and requiring that existing pits(and all mixes) be sterilized is what I believe to be the best approach. No one’s family pet will be harmed, they will live out there lives without the ability to reproduce.
If these dogs weren’t so destructive when they attacked I doubt they would receive the attention they currently do.
I don’t buy into the pit defenders tired argument saying the owners are the problem, not the dog, even though the owners are ultimately responsible for the dog’s actions. They are just trying to absolve the dogs of their actions.
i dont trust any dogs
urgh here we go again…. as you stated not all pitbulls are bad.
the problem is the owners why don’t we just ban the owners for owing any dog ? why just punish one group of dogs?
why don’t we ban people who steal and just go drown them? etc….
the animals are here deserve to live in Harmonie end of story.
They are a part of the problem, but mostly it is this type of dog.
We should drown people that steal!! What a great idea!
Pitbulls are by far the best breed and very loyal dogs but it really depends on how you train/treat your dog in the first place so …
fuck you my 3 pitbulls will fuckin kill u bitch
And fuck you and your Shit Bulls™
My family rescues abused and neglected dogs around our community in rural NC with a special soft spot for bull dogs of any kind. Whether they be Pit Bulls, English, American Bull Dogs, Stafordshire Terriors (I personally own one of these, she’s my angel), and all sorts of mixes. What I’ve learned from these dogs is that they CAN cause alot of damage when they’ve set their minds to do so but I’ve also seen a Pit get ripped to shreds by a Chow. They are agressive in pretty much everything they do, not always in a bad way either; whether it be fighting, defending, playing, loving, even when you set their food bowl in front of them sometimes they will put so much force into running to get to it that when they stop and you happen to be standing there you are sure to end up on the floor.
Out of all the different breeds of dogs I’ve helped rehabilitate after being abused or trained to fight though, Pits seem to bounce back the best. More so than any other kind of dog they want to please their masters, no matter what it takes. They are so fiercely loyal, yet can be just as welcoming to strangers depending on their personality (they have HUGE personalities, at that).
The most important thing though is that their bad name is a horrible injustice. The majority of children I’ve known to be attacked by dogs of any kind were not being watched, were not taught how to behave in front of dogs, or how to respect a dog. If a child runs up on a highly defensive dog, the dog’s not going to take into account how young they are. If a child aggravates a sensitive (or any really) dog physically (snatching on ears maybe?) or mentally (that particularly annoying toy, antagonizing a dog behind a fence) enough the dog is going to find a way to make it stop, just like any other animal on the planet including humans. (Just to be clear, I’m not saying it’s the child’s fault.) A lot of dogs are not trained to handle the stress load of children either, but NONE of this is taken into consideration when a dog attack is reported, especially a pit bull attack. It may just be me but it seems the attack is always taken out of context for better press and it has been so detrimental to this breed in particular.
I may be a Pit lover but even with that aside I trust a Pit alot more around children than a Dalmation or Cocker Spaniel. Their agression is ingrained, but their hatefulness is not. An owner or a trainer has to find a way for a Pit to use that agression constructively just as if someone had a child with agression issues.
Also, I should probably mention after a childhood of being surrounded by this breed at all times I’ve been bitten 5 times. Not once by a Pit Bull, even when breaking up a Pit fighting with another dog (I know, NOT a smart decision). The dogs I have been beaten by though include: a Rat Terrier (which was during a fight with a Pit Bull and I thought I was saving its life but the bastard left a nasty scar on my calf), a Chow/Husky/Wolf mix, and 3 other mystery breeds (lab/hound mixes probably, it IS a hutning community) who just did not want me cleaning the area on their necks where collars had rotted into their skin or had embedded a training collar into themselves after it had been irresponsibly left on the dog for way too long.
ok everyone has the right to voice thier opinion but resorting to name calling and profanity is childish and petty. Present your points and be done with it.
As for me? I myself love pitbulls just like I love every other type of dog and animal. Like I explained before in an earlier comment, it’s not the animal at fault but the humans involved in each of these accidents involving the breed.
However, if your going to attack pitbulls and deam them unfit to live on the bases that some dogs, which happen to be of this breed, have killed or seriously wounded people, then we should kill all other breeds of dogs that have done the same and wipe out sharks, bears, moose, hippos etc, etc. Also we should make the death penalty legal in every state; humans after all have commited far more viscious and violent crimes to other people with far less reason and excuse then any animal on this earth.
But now that I got my two cents in it was probably pointless making any kind of argument here, am I right? Everyone has such strong opinions and it’s obvious no one is going to switch stances. So please, respect each other’s opinions and stop all this childishness. It’s ridiculous really.
If you have nothing nice to say, then don’t say anything at all.
I thought the exact same thing about humans. Humans have the capacity to maim and destroy 10,000x more than what one dog breed ever could.
Heh.
That number seems pretty small.
… give that into the hands of a terrorist, a criminal, or anyone who does not give half a rat’s ass for their fellow man, and they’ll push that 10000x figure through the moon.
-Sad
You morons. I know u won’t have the guts to post this but i know you’re reading it. Living in Australia with my 2 Staffys who babysit my children, i have never read such vitriol against a breed of dog! Ignorance is now no longer your excuse!! Bull Breeds are dogs. Rottys are dogs. The most vicious dog breed I have seen is the chiahaua; luckily they r tiny.
YOU CAN TRAIN ANY DOG BREED TO BE VICOUS MORON.
So, what’s your angle? Most of you North Americans are religious nut jobs & (like a person from Arizona once told me “Muslims are ragheads, that’s what we callem in the states. If it was up to me I’d nuke the entire middle east & make it a car park for American cars”) I would like to nuke North America. Keep buying more guns you idiots.
*feh* You are an idiot, unworthy of a proper response.
I am personally shit scared of any dangerous dog, being of slim build due to ill health,they could kill my in a flash.Where i live we have many dog owners,but only the pitt owners think its cool to let them run loose,all other dog owners on my estate have there dogs on a leash.As i walked down my road,and a pitt came charging at me-”oh its ok it wont bite you” as his heckles were up and teeth snarling,i feared for my life,and have done many times in the area i live.
Although i live in a small town, over the years the amount of deaths,maulings caused by these dogs is amazing.
However i dont agree with the hosts point,the vast majority are ok, but lets put them to sleep,so some of the genuine loyal/soft pitss would pay the price for others.
Its simple, all dogs have the potential to snap,but with pitts its inbread,and thats were the danger lies,my dogs may bite( have not yet after 7 and 15yrs) but have no problem with having them on a lease and mussled while being out.
I could show this pitt lovers a picture of a young girl with her devoted pitt,and all would say told you they were soft,the girl in question was mauled in 2 minutes.
There has been a dangerous and deadly dog for EVERY generation. The Pitt Bull is ours. It’s sad to see people blaming the breed so much. The truth is, Pitt’s are a POWERFUL breed. This means they need a job to do, they need weight to lift, so to speak. Most importantly, they need owners who know how to properly care for them.
“Gangster” dumb asses have used Pitts for their muscle and loyalty in order to gain a hefty profit in fighting these dogs with each other. Like any dog, they’re loyal to their owner, they don’t know that it’s wrong. Unfortunately, a lot of these dogs do come out the other side needing serious rehabilitation or even to be put down. This is how they were TRAINED though. They’re smart, and they are like any other dog. You just need to be responsible and know the breed. Know dogs, first and foremost, however. THIS is what gives Pitts their bad rap. Other than that, any dog can fucking bite you, kill a child (a CAT can do that), or run rampant. Please don’t be so quick to judge!
Google (_____) attacks, filling in the blank with whatever breed you choose. I just looked up Border Collie attacks, oh shit! Try it yourself and see. Doesn’t mean I’m giving up my Lucy the Border Collie. What we need to do is ban certain dumb fucks from ever owning ANY dog, because that really is what it comes down to. In addition, parents need to train their child how to behave around a dog, keeping in mind that a dog is still an animal, no matter if you put little pink bows on it’s head or carry it around in a purse. It’s a lack of inter-species communication. ~~~ DURRH.
Oh and JUSTIN- what does North America have to do with this topic? Piss off, you dweeb.
P.S. This topic has been raging for years… Hot topic? I think so, sheesh!
One very important distinction between pits and your Border Collie. Only the pit is a “grasping” dog with incredible muscles in its jaws, neck and shoulders.
Your Border Collie could never cause as much damage even if it wanted to.
Ever see what a pit can do?
*WARNING**GRAPHIC IMAGE*
Here is what one pit did to a man’s arm.
Maybe your BC could do that much damage, but the victim would have to sit around all day while she gnawed incessantly.
Get rid of all of them and you won’t need to have this blog.
I have a pit bull that my mommas ant gave her and my mommas ant found him on the side of the road half dead and he was really young. He was half dead cause he was beat my somebody and he doesn’t hurt me(I’m 13)my sister(she is 11)my brother(he is 17)or my 6 year old cousin instead he gives us hug and kiss, stop talking crap about pit bulls, the many reason pit bulls attack is cause they were hurt by someone they loved and their scared that their owners will do it again
Bull-shit.
Seriously, you’re a vile jerk. Buddy’s better off dead than with a brutal animal hating monster like you.
And an equal serving of bull-shit for you too.
My cousin’s “raised right, pure bred” just attacked my 4 yr old nephew tonight without provocation. He is ok, besides a huge BITE on his arm & a trip to the ER. They aren’t cute, they are dangerous. When will anyone learn?
Dang, girl!
Sure glad the young man is doing okay and escaped the more serious injuries or death these dogs are known for.
Another tale of the “sweetest thing” attacking a member of its own family.
Told my aunt for 2 years not to trust the dog. “But she’s so DOCILE” was always the response. PEOPLE, please wise up!!!!!!!!!!! These dogs CAN be sweet, but would you put YOUR kids/nephews/whathaveyou in front of them? GET A CLUE!!!!!!!!!!! They are bred for disaster, I’m so thankful that it wasn’t worse.
I sure hate y’all had to go through this. The young man will be scarred for life with a fear of dogs, now.
I sure hope this means that this doggone dog is gone, now.
Had the dog for 7 years and NEVER acted like this……hmmmmm
I feel for the boy but glad he acted quickly…
http://www.wmtw.com/r/28537181/detail.html
One hundred twenty pounds of “the sweetest thing.”
Thank God the young man had a head on his shoulders and didn’t just panic.
Yes, responsible teaching of the use of guns…and if Obama got his way, guns would be gone and grandma would have been kibbles and bits…
I hate the bad wrap that pitbull’s get, because of these asshole’s who choose to teach there dogs to be violent. A dog is like a child they mimic what they have been taught. In other words a little dog who attacks and bites people are ok because its a little bite. IGNORANCE IS ALIVE AND WELL!!!. I have a pit bull and her name is treasure she is the sweetest most friendly pit in the world. She has never bit anyone, attack any one she has never attacked another dog she is just very palyful and loves to play, she is great with children and she barely even barks and she is so smart and listens on command. I have another dog a chiwauauw mixed with a maltese and he is mean as hell he barks and bites and will attack someone. Him and my pit play all day. the little one bites my pit all up and she has never got mad not once and bit him or took out any aggressions on him, she lets him beat her ass because she knows he’s smaller than her. So for all of you who hate pits KISS MY A–.
We were already aware of that, but thanks for reinforcing that knowledge.
Uh huh…did you hear about the boy in Maine recently? His sweeeeeet loving pit who for 7 years NEVER hurt a fly suddenly turned on grandma and the boy had to shoot it.
Things that make you go hmmm…
Personal preference and all, but I do not want a pitbull anywhere near my child. It’s a choice that I, as her mother, have made. Do I think that all pits should be killed; no, not in the least. But, that does not negate the fact that I should be able to go out in my yard, walk down the block or take my daughter to the park without fear of someone else’s pitbull. Actually, that goes for ANY breed of dog.
I believe, and I could be wrong, that pits were concidered “babysitter” dogs for almost 100 years… I can believe that. My problem is the CURRENT status of the pitbull.
Whether some people want to admitt it or not, there has been much selective breeding done to the pit group since then. Bad breeders (and fighters) have bred the group to be more aggressive, fight harder, etc. (all the qualities a fighting dog would need to win.) Now, take that poor puupy who has 6-8 successive generations of being bred for fighting and put him in a house with a proper owner… Chances are that the pup will grow up happy and will not be outwardly aggressive… That does not change the fact that there is a propensity for violence.
If you want a pit, then have one. All I ask of you is that you be responsible, as I would with ANY dog owner.
Your doing the right thing by keeping the tickbulls away from your child. See this article http://www.pitbullsaredangerous.webs.com!
http://www.ktla.com/news/landing/ktla-pregnant-woman-killed-family-pitbull,0,6865737.story
Interesting article…and being that the victim was SO involved in helping pit bulls, I’M SURE she raised the dog well and loving and it still chewed her to pieces…
Also, it is strange to see the husband forgive the dog after mauling his pregnant wife…
Things that make you go hmmmm….maybe he read about scott peterson and just took a different approach.
Terrible to say but this story is nuts..
People are SO fooled by the beastbulls out there. I LOVE this website http://www.pitbullsaredangerous.webs.com it presents all the FACTS on pitbulls. YES I owned one myself and will be posting pics of her on there when she a sweetie, then she grew up, and turned against me, just like my uncle’s pit Mocha did TOO. We raised them GREAT tons of Puppy training and socialization with people and dogs, YET they wanted to kill. Oh but, I owned my pit for 10 years, it won’t hurt a fly, they say, ignorance, says another, your ugly, says another pitbull lover. How is saying this defending the breed? its not because they CANT because the KNOW ITS TRUE. They rather have their TICKBULL than a real dog and put people’s lives in danger.
I happen to own a pitbull who was a stray found wandering the streets. After taking him in it was clear he had been severely abused and neglected. Despite this, he’s the most loving dog I have ever met. I have an 8 year old who can sit on him, lay on him, basically do whatever to him and no matter what she does it doesn’t bother him. He’s never growled or bit or even remotely acted aggressive towards anyone – including other dogs. I’ve seen him play with our other dogs, and our other dogs will bite him (he’s persistent and never stops – always wants to play) and make him bleed and he has NEVER bit them back. He’s the gentlest sweetest dog you’d ever meet and pretty much worthless as a guard dog because he loves every single person he meets. When the 8 year old is outside playing, he sits at the window watching her, making sure she’s OK. So to those who say “Kill em all” for this one breed – you are retarded. You can’t blame one entire breed for the actions of a few dogs who were raised poorly. Raised correctly they are the best dogs you’ll ever have, and the most loyal dogs I’ve ever had experience with. Raised incorrectly and ANY dog can attack and kill someone. Stop being ignoramuses and think about it.
We are idiots because we look at the available information and conclude they are too dangerous a breed, while you praise yourself as being smart for presenting one anecdotal story.
You should change your screen name to “I Am A Shitbird.”