Khristian Oliver: Sentenced to death by real Christians
UPDATE (Nov 5) — He’s dead.
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On March 17, 1998, Joe Collins went out to pick up a hamburger for dinner and returned home to find Khristian Oliver, then 20, and 16-year-old Benny Rubalcaba inside. Rubalcaba’s 15-year-old brother and Oliver’s girlfriend were outside waiting in a pickup truck.
When Collins returned home and surprised the would-be-robbers, they tried to run away, but Collins got his rifle and shot Benny Rubalcaba in the leg. Oliver then shot Collins in the face with his .380 revolver, then grabbed Collin’s rifle and beat him with it, evidence showed.
One of the teenagers later testified that he saw Oliver swinging the rifle at Collins like a golf club and then like an ax. The fatal wounds to Collins’ head and face left him nearly unrecognizable and with severe skull fractures.
Evidence showed Collins was shot five times by Oliver, with at least two of the shots fired while the man was laying on his back on the ground outside his house.
At Oliver’s trial for capital murder, a medical examiner testified that although Collins was probably already dead from the gun shot wounds, but the rifle butt attack was such that it alone would have killed Collins.
Undisputed Guilt
Oliver’s guilt is not disputed. The facts of the crime are not disputed — by Oliver nor his attorneys. He, and he alone, is responsible for the murder of Joe Collins during the commission of a felony crime. The very definition of capital murder.
In Texas, the ultimate penalty for capital murder is the death penalty.
And tomorrow night, shortly after 6:00 p.m. Huntsville time, Khristian Oliver will pay for his crimes with his life.
Biblical Influence
This case is receiving extra attention from around the country and from around the world because, sometime during or after the sentencing deliberations, the jury consulted the Bible for guidance.
Which is something Christians often do. And, much to the dismay of the ACLU (Anti-Christian Liberties Union), Texas is still overrun with those damned pesky Christians.
Amnesty International has issued an urgent appeal stating: “Even supporters of the death penalty will agree that no one should ever be executed if there is any suggestion of any unfair trial. Khristian Oliver’s trial wasn’t just unfair; it was a travesty.”
The problem is, Khristian did receive a fair trial. Nothing those jurors found in the Bible changes the undisputed facts of Oliver’s crime.
I’m reading a lot of headlines that read something like this: Khristian Oliver faces execution after jurors consult Bible to decide fate
Which is crap. Oliver isn’t being executed because jurors consulted a Bible. Oliver faces execution because he shot a man in the face and killed him.
Now, it’s true that what the jury did is prohibited by the 6th Amendment of the United States Constitution. However:
But since there is a two-part test, and Oliver was only able to satisfy the first part — that the jury’s consultation of the Bible was impermissible under the circumstances — Oliver failed to prove the alleged prejudicial effects of that impermissibility were such that they rose to the level of a Sixth Amendment violation.
So, barring any intervention by the U.S. Supreme Court or the governor of Texas, Khristian Oliver will himself likely be smited, or smote, or however it is that they’re doing it down there these days.
Some people are just so filled with hate and evil that the world is a better place without them. Khristian Oliver is one such person. And tomorrow evening, the world will be a little better than it was before.
Next…
…on the docket is Cuban Yosvanis Valle, who will be put to death on November 10 for 1999 capital murder of Jose Junco during a robbery at the victim’s Pasadena, TX home.
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2008? Texas is fast but not that fast!
Oops. That shoulda read 1998. Fixed.
Whoever wrote this Fucking BULL-SHIT…..IS A FUCKING ASS.HOLE AND SHOULD BURN THE FUCK IN HELL, WITH YOUR MOTHERFUCKING OPINION, FOR THE THE RECORD THE WORLD WOULD BE A BETTER PLACE WITHOUT UR BITCH ASS………NEXT TIME THINK THE FUCK ABOUT THE FUCKING FAMILY FIRST,……..YOU FUCKING ASS-WIPE
Guess what, the world is already a better place without your mongoloid urban terrorist of a relative. And that piece of shit won’t be coming back.
mongoloid urban terrorist of a relative? what tha’? are you joking? how was he a terrorist? did he terrorize you? sam, seriously, i understand you are entitled to your opinion, but, khristian was NOT a terrorist. again-do not blame the family. khristian was accused and convicted for the crime, he has paid the price – let it go….
You should be addressing your comments to “Khristians Cuz” and not Sam. Sam was responding to his insults which you have chosen to ignore.
As to letting go – you are the one who went internet surfing more than a month after his execution. Also, this is a blog. People post comments. Telling people not to isn’t going to happen. If you can’t deal with it, you shouldn’t be reading the blog.
And asswipe, think of the family of Joe Collins first.
In certain countries, the Collins family would have slaughtered your piece of shit family in revenge.
OTHER countries are killing our soldiers, our brothers, fathers, mothers, sisters – should i go on?? so of course the would have slaughtered our family. BUT, why slaughter the family? WE did not kill mr collins…you have just proved yourself no better than my brother…? think before you blog next time…
Again, you should be addressing your comments to “Khristians Cuz” and not Sam. Sam is not advocating for a criminal’s family to be executed. He is only responding to Cuz’ nonsense that your family should come first. It doesn’t. In fact, it shouldn’t enter it all. The jury heard all the mitigating evidence which included your family and found that the aggravating evidence outweighed the mitigation and voted for the death penalty.
I really wonder why noone here can feel the pain of the family of an executed offender… Heartless.
Fuck them. And fuck you too.
Feel the pain of the executed offender? Are you fucking kidding me? I’m mad that he didn’t actually feel any pain, and instead died a calmer, less painful death than his victim, or likely any one of us will endure.
Pain? All I can feel is the denial of their son’s culpability in this man’s murder. They both had visions that he’s not guilty and someone else did it? Oh, please! And this kid has been on a crime spree for years. What the hell were his parents doing about it?
i,m khristian oliver’s sister, i thank everyone for their responses to my brother’s exection, no matter the opinion. however, put yourselves in my family’s shoes and think for a second how we feel about the matter. walk in our shoes. if it were your flesh and blood, a sibling who committed a heinous act, you are still, by family, stand by your own. on the other hand the collins family, i am truly sorry for what my brother was involved in resulting in the murder of their loved one. i can never imagine how they must have felt these past 10-11 years, and nothing will bring back their loved one. khristian is dead and our parents and family mourn him, also. do not blame my parents for the decisions khristian made after he left the wings of my parents. they deserve that much. thank you. kristy oliver
you seem to be one of the few here with any sense. thank you
If a loved one of mine committed capital murder, I wouldn’t lie for them, make excuses for their crimes, or expect them to escape justice.
As to you parents, I don’t believe that your brother went bad when he left home. His criminal record is pretty horrendous and I have to believe he was committing crimes while living at home and someone turned a blind eye to it.
That the jury sought comfort in the Bible after having to hear and see all the evidence and testimony in this brutal crime, is to their credit, not the detriment of their duties as responsible jurors.
While this man may deserve his fate, we are a nation of laws and if the jury didn’t cross every “t” and dot every “i” then the system should redo whatever part of his trial they have to to make it legal.
While we are at it, we should insure juries are told the rules so they don’t make that mistake again. If the jury was so informed, and chose to ignore their instructions (and their sworn duty) then they should be punished for their actions.
That is not the law, that has never been the law, and that will never be the law. The law is that jurors must not rely on outside influences to reach their decision. The evidence showed that the jurors based their decision on Texas law and the instructions given to them by the judge – not the Bible. A couple of jurors had Bibles with them because they were going to a Bible class later that evening. One juror read from the Bible after they reached their decision. Oliver received a “legal” aka, fair trial.
Let me first say this is a capital case and therefore is subjected to a higher scrutiny than a lesser crime (and should be). Next; again, if they followed ALL the rules, and you say they did, then all is good. However, if they didn’t follow the rules as Robbie suggests (second to last paragraph in blue), then my first comment holds.
No, capital cases are not subjected to a higher scrutiny than lesser crimes. Capital cases have different issues than other crimes that result in capital cases being reviewed by more courts of appeal, which is what happened here.
The law is that a jury can not rely on outside influences to reach its decision. This applies to ALL cases – not just capital ones.
The issue was reviewed by the trial court, by the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals, by the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Texas, and by the United States Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit. (The US Supreme Court refused to review it.) They found no evidence that the jury relied on any outside influence to reach their decision.
Obviously, you don’t like the results. However, you do not get to make up your own laws. So, your comments are both irrelevant and wrong.
Mark…except, as noted, in order for Mr. Oliver’s appeal to prevail, it LEGALLY had to meet two criteria.
It didn’t.
The legal issue has been fully addressed, considered, and ruled upon. And rejected.
His trial was not tainted in anyway. His guilt was determined before any jurors sought the guidance of their God. None of Oliver’s appeals hinge on his possible innocence.
Try him as often as you like, you’ll get the same verdict. And here in Texas…especially in the Piney Woods of East Texas, you’re going to get that same death sentence every time.
Justice has been met in this case. Time for Mr. Oliver to pay for his crimes.
Given that we were having such a time communicating on something we basically agree on, I reread Robbie’s blog and realize now he wrote the defendant has to satisfy BOTH parts of the test. Given all the uproar, I thought he only had to satisfy one part of it.
Really my only comments were, as a society we should be very vigilant about keeping Church and State at a long arms distance from each other and that we should, especially when a person’s life is on the line, follow ALL the rules to the letter.
Oliver was on a crime wave and was a murderer just waiting to happen:
“During the punishment phase of his capital murder trial, the State presented evidence that Oliver began committing burglaries about a year and a half before he murdered Joe Collins. A long-time accomplice and co-hart of Oliver’s, testified to numerous burglaries he committed with Oliver, including a residential burglary committed in September 1996 in which they stole guns, an October 1996 burglary of the Heart of Texas Coliseum, two burglaries in June 1997 of Filling Station No. 7 (also know as Hilltop Grocery), a July 1997 burglary of a sporting goods store, a July 1997 burglary of a Little League concession stand, an August 1997 burglary of a coliseum and general exhibits building, and an October 1997 burglary of a community college field house. The accomplice also described several other burglaries and thefts that he and Oliver committed, including the theft of a large fishing boat from Donn’s Boat Sales.
The accomplice said that when he and Oliver attempted to burglarize Waco High School, they fled after they were caught by a security guard. After they were in the car, Oliver fired a gun. The security guard testified that Oliver had pulled the gun and pointed it at him across the car roof, and also aimed and fired the gun at an approaching janitor. The accomplice testified that at a car-jacking in Boskey Park in October 1997, Oliver pulled a gun on a man in a parking lot and took his wallet and keys. Testimony was also offered that Oliver broke into a store near Rusk and left with things from the store.”
http://www.oag.state.tx.us
It is by his Mom: Katie Oliver feels strongly her son is innocent, her belief fortified by a vision she said she had several years ago in which an angel took her to the site of the murder, a visit during which she witnessed indications that another man had killed Collins. She captured that vision in a series of woodblock images that’s framed in their home. As she detailed that visitation, Kermit Oliver left the room and returned
with a photograph of a young girl, about 11. It’s the daughter that Khristian Oliver never met, a granddaughter whose guardians have stopped her summer visits to the Olivers.
http://www.crazyantidpsite.com
Obviously his mom thinks he’s innocent. Every mother in the world would not believe their kids were capable of doing anything like this. Every mother in the world thinks their son is a regular Brad Pitt in the looks department too…that’s a stupid argument.
Boy, the press is lying their asses off about this one.
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ent/arts/gray/6703712.html
The arts column?
This piece is a sad attempt to suborn murder.
To say the parents are in denial is an understatement:
http://www.dailysentinel.com/hp/content/news/stories/2009/11/04/khristian_oliver_1105.html
I wonder if the media and the anti-death groups EVER think of the victim or his family and loved ones. Was Mr. Collins a daddy? Did he have a wife? Brothers & sisters or a parent who was still alive? Was he a grandpa?
I beleive in the death penatly. I am a Christian woman and believe in heaven and despite all the bad things that a person may do in their life they can still find redemption. However, they must still pay for the sins.
5 kids and a pack of grandkids who lived nearby and he saw daily.
Anti-dp people do think about the victims and their families – although you probably can’t imagine that.
Unfortunately, no matter what they say, you’ll always find something to complain about. So they prefer not saying anything about the victims at all.
Just to make you stop wondering…
Since, just about everything that comes out of an anti DP person’s mouth is a lie, no I can’t imagine it. You lie about the case facts. You lie about the laws. Why would anyone believe you on anything else? That should make you wonder but it won’t.
Anti-dp people think of nothing and no one but the scum of the earth they are trying to marry. You have to wonder what is wrong with these women that the only men they can get to show interest in them are the ones that rape and murder and that are scheduled to die. The victims family is the only one anyone should be concerned with.
This just in…He’s Dead, Jim.
Good riddance to a piece of dog shit.
I just made a slight mention of this fuck off jerk on PTO – something to the effect of ‘remembering the victim and his family’ and the fuckers deleted my post, saying its not a victim support site!!! they go round all over town saying how victimised they are by their mates being shuffled off with the injection, and yet spare no thought for the guy this lousy fucker murdered!! He took a life knowing the penalty for it, I hope he rots in hell.
If you called him “fuck off jerk” there, they were pretty right to delete your post.
You always want respect for the victims, yet you do not show respect for anyone yourself.
Reading comprehension isn’t your friend.
The victims and their families are the only ones who deserve the respect you jackass.
Try reading the post L, you’re obviously convict ass kisser, like the rest of the scumpals
That’s what I mean… Maybe start off with nice(r) language avoiding “ass”, “fuck”, “fucker”…
Fuck off, assfucker. Go fuck yourself.
Fuckface: Let me spell it out for you – NZDPsupporter never mentioned the fucking murderer over at PTO but just the victim and his family.
To the scum on PTO and people like you, any mention of the victims is an obscenity. Now, foad.
What does PTO stand for?
What does PTO stand for?
PhatTurdsOnline
This is where you guys politicaly belong:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_Party
Here’s one for you, Chrissy:
http://www.amishrakefight.org/gfy
Considering that the nazis were a bunch of murderers and thugs and a criminal enterprise, politically, Chris would fit right in with them.
sam has issues. but he’s interesting. i kinda’ like his blogs. reminds me of khristian….he speaks his mind. sam merry christmas