Comments on: “The Surge” A Success Story! http://urbangrounds.com/2009/11/the-surge-a-success-story/ Sometimes the truth hurts Tue, 14 Feb 2012 23:23:22 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: No2Liberals http://urbangrounds.com/2009/11/the-surge-a-success-story/#comment-156537 No2Liberals Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:15:24 +0000 http://urbangrounds.com/?p=7910#comment-156537 Tracy, what has been accomplished is remarkable, considering how Iraq was arbitrarily designed as a country in the beginning, as well as the dysfunctional years under Saddam. A free and successful republic of Iraq is a threat to the neighboring monarchies and to Iran. There may well be challenges they have to face in that regard, but there will always be challenges to a free nation. Perhaps you didn't see this report a few weeks ago, but <a href="http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2009/10/us-troops-enjoy-salsa-yoga-classes-in-iraq-thanks-to-massive-success-of-bush-surge/" rel="nofollow">our troops in Iraq are bored.</a> Tracy, what has been accomplished is remarkable, considering how Iraq was arbitrarily designed as a country in the beginning, as well as the dysfunctional years under Saddam.
A free and successful republic of Iraq is a threat to the neighboring monarchies and to Iran. There may well be challenges they have to face in that regard, but there will always be challenges to a free nation.
Perhaps you didn’t see this report a few weeks ago, but our troops in Iraq are bored.

]]> By: Tracy http://urbangrounds.com/2009/11/the-surge-a-success-story/#comment-156535 Tracy Sun, 08 Nov 2009 05:41:43 +0000 http://urbangrounds.com/?p=7910#comment-156535 Thanks, NO2L, I did open the link to get an overview of the material and will most certainly return to read it in-depth when I have a bit more time. I would be very happy to see the Iraqi people with a fair and secure government that seeks to protect the rights of <em>all</em> of their citizens, along with a solid national security to protect those rights from insurgents who wish to oppress to impose the agenda of a few. I know our troops who are currently serving, and have served, in Iraq would be exceedingly happy to see this, too. Thanks, NO2L, I did open the link to get an overview of the material and will most certainly return to read it in-depth when I have a bit more time.

I would be very happy to see the Iraqi people with a fair and secure government that seeks to protect the rights of all of their citizens, along with a solid national security to protect those rights from insurgents who wish to oppress to impose the agenda of a few. I know our troops who are currently serving, and have served, in Iraq would be exceedingly happy to see this, too.

]]> By: No2Liberals http://urbangrounds.com/2009/11/the-surge-a-success-story/#comment-156530 No2Liberals Sun, 08 Nov 2009 00:47:34 +0000 http://urbangrounds.com/?p=7910#comment-156530 Tracy, no one can be certain, but I like their chances. Currently, any U.S. military actions have to be approved by the Iraqi government in advance, and they are serving in a support role to the Iraqi security forces. They have a fledgling Air Force and Navy under development, and their Army and police have their own training facilities and trainers, with the coalition forces assisting. I highly recommend setting aside some time and viewing the Brookings pdf linked to in the post. They have public opinion polls that have been tracking for years, and the trend is upward, even for the Sunnis, that life is getting better. The Iraqis first must take ownership of their nation and its responsibilities, and I saw much more of that ownership during their last election. Tracy, no one can be certain, but I like their chances. Currently, any U.S. military actions have to be approved by the Iraqi government in advance, and they are serving in a support role to the Iraqi security forces.
They have a fledgling Air Force and Navy under development, and their Army and police have their own training facilities and trainers, with the coalition forces assisting.
I highly recommend setting aside some time and viewing the Brookings pdf linked to in the post. They have public opinion polls that have been tracking for years, and the trend is upward, even for the Sunnis, that life is getting better.
The Iraqis first must take ownership of their nation and its responsibilities, and I saw much more of that ownership during their last election.

]]> By: Tracy http://urbangrounds.com/2009/11/the-surge-a-success-story/#comment-156529 Tracy Sat, 07 Nov 2009 22:50:40 +0000 http://urbangrounds.com/?p=7910#comment-156529 I can't help but fear that the withdrawal of troops from Iraq will result in a collapse of the infrastructure they have worked so hard to build, as various terrorist and fundamentalist factions will fight to gain a position of power as soon as the support system is removed. I can't help but draw an analogy between the foundling Iraqi government and a child just gaining confidence in walking who will fall as soon as s/he realizes the supporting hand has been withdrawn. The question which worries me is: Is the Iraqi government now stable and strong enough to stand on its own against the onslaught of insurgency which is bound to occur as soon as their "bodyguards" (i.e., our troops and the troops of our allies) are removed? (Thanks in advance to anyone for sharing your opinion.) I can’t help but fear that the withdrawal of troops from Iraq will result in a collapse of the infrastructure they have worked so hard to build, as various terrorist and fundamentalist factions will fight to gain a position of power as soon as the support system is removed. I can’t help but draw an analogy between the foundling Iraqi government and a child just gaining confidence in walking who will fall as soon as s/he realizes the supporting hand has been withdrawn.

The question which worries me is: Is the Iraqi government now stable and strong enough to stand on its own against the onslaught of insurgency which is bound to occur as soon as their “bodyguards” (i.e., our troops and the troops of our allies) are removed? (Thanks in advance to anyone for sharing your opinion.)

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