Nancy Pelosi is leading the Democrats over a cliff as she attempts to pass the health care reform bill without having members vote on it. A law that nobody wants, that nobody has read, is poised to be passed without even a vote. Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) nails it when he says that Pelosi has House Dems “liquored up on sake” ready for a “suicide run.”
And the reason that Nancy won’t call for a vote is because she doesn’t have the votes and it would fail.
And the reason that the bill would be voted down is that 1) the people of the United States overwhelmingly oppose it, and 2) the Congressmen know they will lose their jobs if they pass this against their constituents wishes.
The Death of Democracy
If Nancy Pelosi succeeds in pushing this un-Constitutional piece of crap through without a vote, then AJ Strata is right: The Week Democracy Died In America:
We face the end of our democracy this week, as the lazy and lying politicians and their enablers inside the Political Industrial Complex (PIC: consultants, lobbyists, staffers, well connect special interests, compliant news media) refuse to let the people chose their path.
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All they moan about is getting a vote for their proposals. Something they were free to do (and lose on) for over a year now. But that is all really a lie my friends. There will be no vote.
If this passes without a vote, I agree with Dan Reihl: I will not bend to this non-law:
It’s unclear whether or not Obama and his Democrats want to provoke a Constitutional crisis that could make Watergate look more like a misdemeanor, than a high crime. Personally, I can’t see myself bending to what would be, in effect, a non-law. The word to attempt a takeover of such a significant portion of the economy and American life through un-Constitutional means is tyranny, not law.
If Nancy passes this and Obama signs it, all without a vote, they will have circumvented the consent of the governed. I hope that our great state of Texas will continue to fight against the tyranny of the Federal government and stand up for the 10th Amendment and deem (hey, if Congress can do it, why can’t we?) Obamacare to be unconstitutional and therefore refuse to comply or participate.
I will join a massive “non-compliance” campaign. Every conservative/libertarian/traditional value organization and blog must join the blow-back campaign. Refuse to sign up, harass the perpetrators at every public event, encourage state legislatures to opt out, keep the heat on continuously until it is repealed.
Failing that, it will be time to revisit the Declaration of Independence, which offers a clear remedy:
That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security
The Weekly Standard has a must read on this insanity:
A stranger moment in politics has seldom been seen. A vast expansion of government that affects every one of the country’s 300-plus million inhabitants may be passed by a hair against fierce and fiercely repeated public opposition by a Congress that no longer speaks for its voters—most of whose members are angry and scared. They are afraid of their voters, and mad at each other
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It’s time to swab your bores and load up your magazines folks….
All my gear stays ready, and there is no rust or patina on my firearms or blades.
My mags stay clean and lubed, but I only load them past halfway when TSHTF, as I don’t want to compress the springs.
I’m a proud member of the Oath Keepers, Guardians of the Republic, sworn (for life) to defend our Constitution.
My weapons also stay at the ready (and at the close).
I think she is nuts playing these dirty games with something so important. She had no idea how angry it’s going to make people.
I’ve been thinking, too how to subvert it if they try to ram it down our throats. Weren’t the state AGs going to challenge it? Or, have they been all bought off?
I first heard about the “Slaughter Solution” last week and posted a link on another thread.
This is completely unconstitutional, and if they try this(personally, I think it is a bluff), Øbummer better not sign the law, as it will be shot down by the Supremes faster than Piglosi can blink.
There is a nice piece at Hot Air about this a few days ago, which includes comments from Mark Levin:
I will ignore and violate any unconstitutional law. If these weasels in Congress think controlling our Southern Border is difficult, wait until they see how difficult controlling millions of thoroughly pissed off armed citizens is.
You’re right about the SCOTUS striking it down within minutes of it being singed into law.
Especially after the way Obama went after them during his State of the Union Address. Not only will they smack down this law based on solid law, but they’ll do so with a smile on their faces (well, at least 5 of them will).
This is the type of reaction this nation needed after the corrupt declared war on Iraq.
It is nice to see the American people have grown balls and opened their eyes.
Corrupt war?
Here is what I think of that comment.
Funny, we didn’t see this level of outrage when Republicans used this parliamentary maneuver over 35 times during the last Congressional session they ran, in 2005-2006, as mentioned below in the journal of that noted left-wing institution, the American Enterprise Institute. Hypocrisy, thy name is Republican.
http://blog.american.com/?p=11467
Wrong, as usual M&M.
There is a big difference in a minor bill dealing with tax credits to the tune of $82billion, and a private sector grab by the government of 17%. The health care industry represents about $2.5trillion each year.
What the jackasses are trying to do is a brazen act of tyranny.
I have no interest in any links you provide, for the truth is, Hypocrisy=liberals, just ask Steny Hoyer.
Whether or not a parliamentary maneuver is unprecedented or illegal has nothing to do with the price tag. And yes, you are correct that Democrats complained about it when the shoe was on the other foot. (Norman Ornstein points that out in the article I linked to.) They weren’t claiming it was the end of democracy, however, or indulging in thinly-veiled fantasies about taking up arms against their fellow Americans. And I’m sure you don’t have any interest in the links I provide. No one is as blind as he who will not see.
We’re not talking about taking up arms against our fellow Americans. Just Congress.
And I’m sure the British thought those crazy little colonialists were just “indulging in thinly veiled fantasies,” too. Just because you are too cowardly to take a stand against tyranny, doesn’t mean that there aren’t many of us who are not afraid.
Unmitigated bullshit!
It has everything to do with this instance, as it is an unveiled power grab by this out of control administration and Congress. A one time tax credit, versus a permanent ruin of our health care system, our personal liberties and the destruction of our constitution is, to any reasonable person, a vast difference.
At least you have gained a valuable insight of yourself.
Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus.
“We’re not talking about taking up arms against our fellow Americans. Just Congress. And I’m sure the British thought those cray little colonialists were just “indulging in thinly veiled fantasies,” too. Just because you are too cowardly to take a stand against tyranny, doesn’t mean that there aren’t many of us who are not afraid.”
Cute lines Robbie, but Congresspeople are your fellow Americans. So to be clear, are you going on the record as stating that that you want to commit acts of violence against members of Congress whose policies you oppose, or would support those who do? Because that certainly sounds like what you are saying, with the talk of weapons and references to the American Revolution.
And I notice that Robbie hasn’t wanted to clarify his comments. One would think that a person who is not “too cowardly to take a stand against tyranny” would be proud to say where he’d take his stand, but oh well.
Go fuck yourself, Mistermark. Asshole.
Two wrongs don’t make a right. Asshole.
Our country is at the cliff – will we follow or will we stand up and defend our Constitution and the Declaration of Independence? Reading those words of the Declaration give me chills. May God bless this country and all its citizens – legal citizens.
It would be nice if Nazi Pelosi would ‘self-execute’ herself.
I never thought I’d live to see the scenarios in many of my most reread breakdown of America type novels played out. Sadly..I and everyone else are going to live to see the bloodshed in our own lifetimes because the motherfuckers in DC and elsewhere..Just. Don’t Get. It.
The fact that “NO2LIBERALS” attempts to defend half the politicians in this country, deflect blame to the other half, and even has a particular party IN his screen name shows his obvious lack of understanding of the real issues.
So, to NO2, I tell you, get out of 1950, and welcome to America in 2010. This is not right vs left. This is Americans versus tyranny.
WAKE THE FUCK UP NO2!!!!!
You may take Galt’s name, but you are no John Galt.
Your assumption that I am asleep is erroneous.
Here is some advice for you, STFD and STFU. You sound like a Paulbot.
“It has everything to do with this instance, as it is an unveiled power grab by this out of control administration and Congress. A one time tax credit, versus a permanent ruin of our health care system, our personal liberties and the destruction of our constitution is, to any reasonable person, a vast difference.”
Distinction without a difference. Whether a law is constitutional or not has nothing to do with its price tag. All you are doing is saying “I don’t like it, therefore it’s unconstitutional”. That’s not a winning argument in any court.
Wrong again, it is distinctively different.
MISTERMARK – Its obvious he was never on a debate team in college, as he has lost each point based on fallacy alone.
He is too concerned with “It’s those damn liberals!” to realize the real issue – people like him.
For someone to actually place their emotions based on price tag is a signal of a nut case partyist who has been duped by the very corrupt politicians we need to replace today.
He was played as a simple sheep, like many in America.
There is no need for the informed to spend any more time with this little angry man who has no real idea why he is angry.
That’s some high praise you are heeping on yourself, Paulbot.
At least you have convinced yourself how perfect you are.
Hey No2…which is worst?
Liberals or Paulbots
Tough choice, huh?
While I believe Paulbots to be insane, I also believe they still deeply love America and want to see her prosper. Plus, Paulbots don’t want to make you pay for their insane ideas.
Liberals are also insane, but do not share the Paulbots love of America.
Ergo — Liberals are worse.
I agree with you, Robbie.
Liberals are like cancer. If you don’t do something about cancer, it will kill you. Cancer needs to be totally eliminated and destroyed for the body to live a clean and health life. So that tells you what I think needs to be done about liberals.
Paulbots are like a really bad skin rash…irritating and full of inflammation, but in the end, it won’t kill ya!
Robbie, Another way to look at Paulbots…they are like our knees. You can be going along just fine with no knee problems, then the weather changes or you move wrong and suddenly your knee becomes a stabbing pain that you just want to go away!
I agree with Robbie, but for slightly different reasons.
Liberals are pathological in their desire to destroy this country’s foundation. They are convinced of their superiority, know-it-alls, even though all the ideas they believe are best have proven miserable failures and ruinous of society every time they have been tried.
Paulbots, while claiming to be constitutional originalists, are also know-it-alls, and view anyone that doesn’t embrace their radical approach to be tyrants. They would have us end the War On Drugs, and anyother wars, and require all our troops be brought home, wherever they are based in the world. They want Maginot America, where our power isn’t projected outward, and our vital national interests and allies abroad would be vulnerable.
They both would destroy this country, but liberals are the most insidious, as they would do it from within by shredding the constitution. That’s why they have to try and destroy the belief in God, the giver of our rights. If they can do that, then they would have us believe that our rights then come from the state.
I chose my nic years ago, because liberals, who are known by different names, but are all statists, are the greatest threat to freedom and prosperity.
Look at the number of liberals/Maoist/communist/socialist that surround this pResident, a radical Marxist himself. What is happening right now in the push for “health legislation’ is not by accident, or because they don’t know what the consequences are. It is by design, and has been a generational effort by the Marxist in this country.
I don’t view the political distinctions as right or left, but a sphere, where at some point at the bottom of the sphere the radicals meet. I first thought of this when KKK members joined Cindy Sheehag’s protest at W’s Crawford Ranch, and see it here where
J. GaltJ. Taggart aligns with the LLL M&M.I hope they use it and when they do and it’s before the SCOTUS, this version of health care will go down faster than the Titanic.
Why is Texas taking so long to tell shit stain Hussein that we will not comply with Obamacare?
Because there is nothing right nowto tell him to shove up his keister!
When and if this abortion know as Obamacare is signed by the Marxist, that, as we say in Texas, is when the fight starts!
If they should use this “deemed to pass” BS, I will thus “deem” that all Federal laws are revoked.
GOVERNOR SIGNS IDAHO HEALTH FREEDOM ACT.
It has begun.
Virginia will sue over health care.
And they still don’t have the votes or a favorable CBO report.
Intrade close today is a good sign for ØbummerCare’s demise.