UPDATE (June 19, 2012) — the Lavaca County District Attorney, Heather McMinn, says they are treating the death of 48-year old Jesus Mora Flores as a homicide.
I’m OK with sending the evidence up to a grand jury. But there simply is no way in hell that the grand jury will or should indict the father of this little girl.
UPDATE II (June 20) — The grand jury has (wisely) decided not to indict the father for doing what a father should do when catching a grown man trying to rape his 4-year old daughter.
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Even before I became a father, I fully understand and support this. Now that I am a new father? And thinking about anybody doing anything so abhorrent to my child? There is no doubt I would go insane and would likely do the exact same thing. Except I most likely would have a gun on me (as I almost always do), and would not have had to expend any additional effort than unholstering and emptying my magazine.
Via CNN:
A Texas father caught a man sexually assaulting his 4-year-old daughter and punched him in the head repeatedly, killing him, authorities said.
The father was casually acquainted with the alleged abuser, said Lavaca County Sheriff Micah Harmon.
Neither has been publicly identified.
The girl was left inside the family’s house during the social gathering, while other members of her family were tending to horses, the sheriff said.
The alleged abuser was known for his horse-grooming abilities, Harmon said.
The father returned to the house, caught the man in the act, and stopped him by striking him in the head several times, Harmon said.
The man was pronounced dead on the scene, while the daughter was taken to a local hospital in Victoria, Texas, for examinations before being released.
Not only do I condone the father’s actions — I support them, if not encourage them (if you catch someone raping your baby, I’d hope you’d beat them to death, too).
I hope a grand jury decides not to indict. And if they do, I hope every single person on his jury is the father of a young baby girl.
Asked whether they would press charges against the father, the sheriff responded, “You have a right to defend your daughter. He acted in defense of his third person. Once the investigation is completed we will submit it to the district attorney who then submits it to the grand jury, who will decide if they will indict him.”
There needs to be a new federal law that simply says, “If you catch someone raping one of your children, you can kill them.” Period.
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Robbie, you’d have to get your Congressman to sponsor the legislation. My Congressman is Lloyd Doggett, who’d want to convene a committee and help the rapist confront his innermost demons and guide him to closure and rehabilitation, all at taxpayer expense of course.
When this story broke out on CNN my wife said the first few comments were bemoaning the fact that “this is typical for Texas, where all they do is kill people”. The tide of the comments soon shifted, however, which can only be a good thing.
maybe if the penalty is death, more horrific crimes like this would be averted.
Certainly no repeat offenders. Eventually those genes will be removed from the pool.
I agree unfortunately Justice Kennedy does not and he’s the swing vote.
Scratch one more 2 legged cockroach. It don’t think it has to go to a grand jury. all the DA has to do is refuse to charge and prosecute him.
I think beating the guy to death is appropriate. A PoS like that doesn’t deserve the mercy of a bullet, he needed to feel the pain from the father’s wrath as his life force ebbed away.
If I were the father of the little girl, I wouldn’t give one thought to the man’s death, only to the health and well being of the innocent child and how that experience may effect her in the future.
I hope the Dad, his daughter and their entire family come through this ordeal with minimal harm.
Apparently the father is feeling a little remorse. Said it wasn’t his intention to kill the piece of shit*”, he was just defending his daughter. Also they can’t get hold of piece of shit’s family because they’re down Mexico way. And you can read into that what you want.
Hmmm..Sean i am in complete agreement with everything you have posted. And i do believe we are on the same wavelength on the family “down Mexico way”?
The father should be commended for saving taxpayers of Lavaca County and the state of Texas a lot of public money. Prayers to the family.
I totally agreed with this statement.
Not only do I agree, but I think that half of what would have gone to prosecute the rapist should instead go to the father as a reward for removing the monster from our midst.
I would have done the same thing in his shoes. He has my support
I was the victim of sexual abuse by a guy my parents rented a one-bedroom apartment to. I never told anyone about it (except my sisters when I was grown), but had my father known what that scumbag did to me, you can bet he would have killed the guy on the spot, too! He was also a gun carrier…always had his gun.
And yes, sexually abused children do suffer (mentally) forever, but I’m happy to say I’m okay with only minimal problems, such as depression and anxiety. I have a wonderful hubby of many, many years and children who help me greatly, though.
I pray this little girl can overcome her abuse and go on to lead a normal life…and this father also has my full support!!
Prayers going out to you and your family, glad you are doing better and are surrounded with loved ones now.
Thank you, Amarius – you are very kind.
Too bad he couldn’t have killed him twice.
Sick bastard. Dead bastard.
Ditto on all previous comments. My husband has said for years that if he ever caught anyone sexually abusing our kids, he’d kill them and go to jail, so I’d better prepare to be a single mother. Thankfully, never happened. Robbie, your proposed “law” (which used to be called common sense) needs to be emended. Any sort of sexual abuse of children, up to and including rape, merits death.
We need to gather up a line of men in this State of Texas the length of I-20 to pat this MAN on the back.
And hope he can drink all the drinks people would want to buy him…
THAT is what a DAD IS.
I totally agree, I would love to give him a hug and all my support! I do hope the family can move forward with a great life.
I have two young daughters and have always said if anyone were to assault them like this the authorities would not have to concern themselves with any type of arrest they would just need to call the coroner.This dad is a hero and should be treated as such.
I would have beat him to death too.
He deserved to die, that little girl is destroyed mentally for life sick basterd
Who cares about this guy who did such a horrible thing. He got what he deserved. However, I do worry what this may have done to this little girl. First she was sexually abused, and then she sees her dad beating and killing someone. It has to be doubly tramatic for her.
she’s young enough that…theoretically she’ll bounce right back. With any luck.
I agree. She will remember her daddy protecting her.
Good for you dad! Protect your child! One less useless soul tax payers will not have to pay for!
I am SOOO glad I didn’t get on here and see anyone attacking this dad for what he did. Good for him, and yes, wish he could have killed him twice.
AMEN! This horrible evil man who did this to this child got what he deserve. My prayers abd best wishes to this little girl and her father! Hold on and trust that God will bring you through! –
Two wrongs don’t make a right.
Good thing there was only one wrong here!!!
If the perp was assaulting the girl, then fair game. But, what if he wasn’t assaulting her and this is a scheme to murder someone or just anger management issues over something else? The public has already tried the perp as guilty but I am curious to see the evidence.
The police have already seen the evidence and they appear to believe the guy. However, it will still be submitted to a grand jury for a decision.
It would’t take investigators very long to poke holes in the concocted story of a 4-year old child who was lying to cover her daddy.
you”ve got to be kidding!
if this man is prosecuted there is something bad wrong with our laws, i would not hesitate killing someone to protect my daughter period, criminals have too many rights and to hell with the victims. I’m fed up with it. we need to start executing killers and rapists on prime time news and this will stop and if you steal we should cut off fingers to let everyone know you are a thief all the police does is collect fees and fines and turns the criminal loose on an unsuspecting public.
Fingers hell, Cut off their penis first, the pluck out their eyes and cut off their hands just like Jesus said.
woah woah.. i understand hating child molesters to that extent, but cut off the penis of the kid who stole some gum?!
stick a piece of dynamite up is ass and blow it up
i commend the father. That is what daddys are suppose to do PROTECT their children!
I would chop his dingaling first then beat the hell out him ! Prayer to the family mother of 5
might be hard to find a guy who finds the need to rape a 4yr old probably only has a lil toddler penis that ever grown woman that has ever seen it has laughed at him,so why waste time looking for it ?just kill him
I don’t support murder in any way. But in this case I don’t feel no pity for the guy. She is 4 years old. If they would of brought him to jail, he would spend a couple months in jail and released with a slap on the wrist. Then he would of repeated it with someone else’s child. Not only that, if the man didn’t die. He would of turned around and sued the father even though he was the one at wrong. For injury and all sort of bullshit things. Sick people in this world and I’m kind of happy that another piece of shit is off the street.
What the father did is not murder. Murder has a very specific legal definition, and what the father did to protect his daughter does not fit that definition.
I just went through 18 months of hell prosecuting a child molester of my 14 year old daughter. Amen to the law. I can’t tell you how many times I’d wished I’d just killed him. He is in jail – miracle of miracles – he was probation eligible. See all the “probation eligible” sex offenders who disappear on the news lately. The offense of “sexual assault of a child” is probation eligible … what is wrong with that or should I say what is RIGHT with that? Nothing. It’s horrible. And after going through the experience (single mom) – I see why women don’t report. It is hell on earth.
My heart goes out to you….
They should all get LIFE without parole for the first offense. They are disgusting and ill and will never change.
My point is…they ruin the life of the victim so they should spend the rest of their life in a box.
Period.
A WOODEN BOX!!!
he doesnt even deserve that just throw his dead corpse out in the desert and let the vultures take care of it
I completely support this man in his acions, but even though completely in the right his family will probably be put through financial expenses that should never be placed on them. Though a different but lovely outcome this family has a long road of recovery that I would love to help with. I will be following in hope that someone willset up a fund for this hero and victim.
Some things warrant “cruel and unusual punishment.” The dead man got off easy. (no pun intended)
It’s kind of fucked up that some are insinuating that HE raped his own daughter just so he could murder some guy.
We now have the official police report and there are some interesting additions to the initial media reports, in particular a witness that observed the criminal abduct the child.
Lavaca officials identify man beaten to death by father of molested girl:
As for any who think the father did anything other than behave as a father should, this quote is for you:
The fact that his genitals were still attached on the now dead offender proves the father exhibited restraint in dealing with El Sicko.
id of done the same thing! hell id do the same thing if i caught any man doing that to a child. im glad this piece of shit is dead.
Swift justice. Good for the dad. But maybe the pervert should have suffered a little by roping a heavy rock around his neck and throwing him into deep water. He offended a little one.
First and foremost I am 100%on the father side on the situation because in this situation I would hav done the exact same thing. Seeing that in person a person should have the right no!!! the privilege to beat the living shit out of him. This is still America and it should still be run like America. Bravo to you mister and I support you 100%still and I tell you. And it might be wrong for me to say but if someone was stupid enough to prosecute you maybe they deserve the same thing. Good luck and god bless
He would of died anyway all you had to do is say what he did to someone in the prison and they would have beat him to death
WOW ! I don’t have a little girl but i have custody of my son let me tell all the other tarts i stand by this other father be aware !!
Tonight I noticed that the fundraising effort to raise money for the sweet school bus aid to take a vacation continues and has topped $500,000. While I applaud the outpouring, I wish the funds could be diverted to this family, as that poor little girl and her dad are going to need some serious counseling. I found your post while searching for such a fundraising effort–I’d like to contribute.
but on the subject of your post, I agree completely.
These useless, worthless, perverted bastards should just be eliminated. No questions asked. If one is caught in the act, kill him there and then, and save the tax payers all this money it takes to drag it through the courts.
I am curious to see how many of these pathetic activist are going to make a stink out of this with replies like no one should be able to take the law into their own hands.
We should still have courtyard hangings and it be mandatory that all go. Maybe then some of these perverted child molesters and murderers would give it a second thought. The parents of these poor innocent children, should be the ones to make the decisions on what the punishment will be for these perverted pieces of waste.
I heard on the news that this father was remorseful for killing this “it”.
I turned to my dad at that moment and said, “The only remorse I would have, is that the sick bastard did not wake up, so I could kill him again”.
WHAT A CREEP!!!! He is a low class pervert!!!! That father had every right to hit that pervert!!!! If I had a daughter I would have done the exact same thing. The father should have no charges against him because he was protecting his daughter. Awesome job to the father!!!! He deserves the award “Father of the Year”
There should be a death penalty for rapists child and adult. This country has become a joke, these people will not stop doing these horrible crimes because there is no real punishment. Other than a place to stay and eat on tax payers dime.
of course you know The Liberals demand that every CRIMINAL/RAPIST/MOLESTER and CHILD ABUSER be given a second…..third…..and fourth chance, because it’s not really there the fault. No our society is at fault…..we failed them!
I agree to many sick bastards I would do the same enough said no justice for a sick bastard who rapes kids line them up and get rid of them hell we kill terrorists Asama bin laden and all that why not a sick child molester.
I love this dad…He should be the daddy of all Indian and South African women where rape is a dime a dozen…He’ll actually be doing the state a whole lot of favor and saving us tax payer’s money in legal tussle with sleezy defence attorneys…lol
MY HUSBAND STEP MUM HATE HIM SO MUCH
My man died 6 weeks ago after 12 month illness where he required increasing amounts of oxygen. I was told 6 months previously that he was about to die and we moved heaven and earth to get him home from hospital. My wonderful strong man carried on for 6 months despite what everyone said. I stopped work and we spent nights and days together mostly with me watching him almost suffocate to death every day. one day in September when there was no one else around I lay down beside him and fell asleep, when I woke up he had gone. I never believe that my husband death was natural..cos i know those that did not want his progress, every night and day i always cry i fill like killing my self because things where hard on my side, my husband family throw us out of the house me and my children where on the street begging for food and water..cos no and told me my husband death was not natural she told me i should not worry she is going to hmoney any more. one of my friend that i have not see for a very long time saw my on a street and she called my name, when i turn i was an old friend of mine, i explain every thing that happen she gave us accommodation elp me, will contact Dr Opingo who salve family problems i explain every thing about my husband to him and he said he will help me know about the death of my husband i was very happy that very day…cos i no something was behind my husband death and i see who is going to help me out, Dr ask me to send my husband picture, surname, and his name i did every thing immediately. After Dr Opingo have use the information i send him, two weeks later my husband step mum confess that she was the one that kill my husband through sickness…i am so happy i am free because the family believe that i kill my husband to take over the properties. thank you once again HELEN my best friend for introducing me to Dr Opingo you can contact his email if you still need his help [email protected]
THIS SOUNDS LIKE A NIGERIAN SCAM!!!!!
The bastered got what he deserved and he is going to burn in hell for ever he got what he deserve thank god that low life pieces of shit go strate to hell. I would of killed him slowly so he will feel every little thing and I would of killed him again if I could and death wasnt enough punishment for him and I wouldnt stop hiting him til I past out. Tham I would of burn him just like his soul is going to be burning none stop thank god there is a place like that for animals like that rapist