UPDATE II — Well, at least today wasn’t a complete loss — Eric Holder was found guilty of contempt of Congress (17 Democrats voted, making it a truly bipartisan majority).
UPDATE — Obamacare upheld, as Roberts joins the Liberals. Un-fucking-believable.
Bottom line, (via SCOTUSblog):
In Plain English: The Affordable Care Act, including its individual mandate that virtually all Americans buy health insurance, is constitutional. There were not five votes to uphold it on the ground that Congress could use its power to regulate commerce between the states to require everyone to buy health insurance. However, five Justices agreed that the penalty that someone must pay if he refuses to buy insurance is a kind of tax that Congress can impose using its taxing power. That is all that matters. Because the mandate survives, the Court did not need to decide what other parts of the statute were constitutional, except for a provision that required states to comply with new eligibility requirements for Medicaid or risk losing their funding. On that question, the Court held that the provision is constitutional as long as states would only lose new funds if they didn’t comply with the new requirements, rather than all of their funding.
SCOTUS insider reports on Chief Justice Roberts’s morning instructions to the justices: “At my signal, unleash hell.”
— Joshua Treviño (@jstrevino) June 28, 2012
Breaking: Justice Kennedy’s request to have the “Jaws” theme played as he arrives at the Supreme Court has been denied.
— John Hayward (@Doc_0) June 28, 2012
For a rabid political junkie, today feels like Christmas. And I still have to wait another hour and a half for my parents (the Supreme Court of the United States) to wake up so I can open my presents (a full repeal of Obamacare [or at least the Individual mandate] and finding Attorney General Eric Holder guilty of contempt of Congress.)
It’s going to be a terrible, horrible, no good, very bad day for Obama. Which means it will be a great day for America.
And you can betchyour ass I’ll be ‘spiking the football’ (and doing the Iggy Shuffle) in celebration.
- My predictions? Lots of tea leaf reading (and Obama [via the still-alive-and-well Journolist] tipping his hat to the leaked decision) lends me to believe that the Individual Mandate goes down 7-2, but that won’t be the big story. The big story will be that the entirety of Obamacare will be struck down 5-4.
- RELATED prediction — Oh, and this prediction isn’t a very big stretch — but upon repeal, there will be much crying, handwringing, calls of racism, and threats to murder the conservative members of SCOTUS. The MFM will spin like an F4 trying to convince us that this is somehow good for Obama and bad for Romeny. And there will be lots and lots of gloating, mockery, and spiking-of-the-football for those who love the Constitution and our country.
- A bipartisan House (with at least 14 Democrats) will vote to find Attorney General in Contempt of Congress for obstructing their investigation into the carried-out-according-to-plan (it was not botched) Operation Fast & Furious, which resulted in the death of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry (White House Press Secretary Jim Carney: “Who is that?”) and hundreds of Mexican citizens.
- RELATED prediction — the U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia, Ronald C. Machen Jr., who is an Obama appointee, will ignore the citation and do absolutely nothing about it. Which is par for the course; a penalty for contempt has not been served since 1934 when President Hoover’s commerce secretary, William McCracken, was “jailed” at the Willard Hotel in Washington, D.C.. The MFM will spin this as a win for Obama and bad for Romney. The Congressional Black
CaucusBigots will storm out of the chambers, because RACISM! The Congressional White Caucus will remain and vote to hold Holder in contempt, because RACISM!
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Wrong. The mandate stands. So, getting a clue yet as to how clueless you are?
No, I didn’t think so.
Fuck off, asshole. The majority of people, including leftards like you, thought it was going down. And believe me, this fight ain’t over. Clap yourself on the back for making the recession even worse.
You’re welcome.
By the way, just because you’ve had a lifetime of poor decision making that makes it feel like a recession to you, it doesn’t make it a recession.
Project much? Look at you — you’re reduced to being a troll.
Funny how you are so dismissive of all those people without jobs or who are underemployed. Sickening…
Are you really blind to all the debt and unemployment?
I can’t believe it either. And all because Roberts decided that, under the Commerce Clause the mandate can’t be upheld, but if it can be called a tax then it can.
There’s nothing left to be proud of about American anymore. Permanent banana republic status, we have arrived.
Yeah, Obama has remade America into a third world country. Spit.
Does Justice Roberts have any “vulnerable” relatives or family? Just sayin the Chicago way has moved to DC.
I think that’s a distinct probability.
Threaten someone or their family and get your way.
Otherwise it makes Roberts something way beyond a RINO…..and not repeatable.
This damn thing is so confusing to me. So does this mean our work will drop their insurance because it will be terribly high and we’ll have to purchase it another way? Fox News stated something about getting the insurance on line?? Not sure if I heard that right…And if we get sick and can’t afford to pay that insurance, we’ll be penalized? Right now, if we get sick and can’t work, we can be let go and Cobra is offered at a very high rate.
It seems to me, that this is primarily for the poor, to attempt to lower the standards for Medicaid so 17,000,000 more people can get medicaid but the states can opt out of that but not lose their existing funding for Medicaid even though Obama wants to pull all funding from them (which is horseshit) if they don’t comply. That much I understood.
Thank you for your input…just trying to understand this…
Or if you don’t purchase their?? insurance, they take part of your tax return?? That seems just wrong!
Hey conservative losers how are you feeling about the healthcare desision
Will be back with further congratulations when he gets another 4 years in Nov, losers take care in the meantime
I think it is great! Romney had pledged to repeal it and it has really fired up conservative voters. Thanks for asking!
While I don’t have much faith in Romney and what he says he will do, this court decision just took away a huge campaign issue for the donks and handed it to the GOP. It will really help in the Congressional and particularly the Senate races, as there are far more vulnerable Senate seats held by donks this cycle than there have been in 12 years.
Which does NO goddamn good No2 in those two races unless of the 33 senate seats up for grabs…the repubs manage to HOLD the 10 they have that are up and GAIN the other 23 in their entirety giving them an iron clad 70% majority
Same with the House only ALL 435 seats are up for grabs. So the Repubs have to HOLD the 244 they already have and nab at LEAST 85 of the 191 Dem seats up for grabs to give them a 75% majority in the house.
By the way I heard that two of the fuckers I despise the most manged to win the primaries in their states. Rangel was one…can’t remember the other one. *headshake* God people are fucking stupid.
The only plus side to Rangel winning, is that at 82-years old, maybe the evil old fuck will kill over in office before the end of his term…
I cautioned people during the run up to the oral arguments, during the oral arguments and after those arguments…DO NOT TRY AND PREDICT WHAT THE SCOTUS WILL DO!!!
I never made a prediction as to what the court would rule because I have been to this rodeo before. Now? Of course I’m disappointed; any reasonable, thinking person that loves this country and its foundation of laws is unhappy. All this does is reinforce what many have believed for a very long time, that the game is rigged. The rules we thought we all were to live by have been proven to be false and that the “ruling” institutions get to play by whatever rules they choose for the rest of us. Our government “employees” are of the belief that they are our masters.
I don’t know what others will do, but I choose civil disobedience. I will not participate in this latest scheme to control us and subvert our constitutional foundation. They are hiring 16,000 new IRS agents? Fine, all it would take is for a few million dissenters to overwhelm their ability to administer their new ability to “tax” us.
The government wants to make shit up to suit their purposes and find some super secret tax code in the constitution much like they found some super secret privacy code to legalize abortion? Fuck’em…Fuck’em All! I’ll follow the constitution as written, not the bastardized version our government “servants” want to follow.
my fathers response and mine was…wait…after what they just did in regards to Arizona…you REALLY expect them to strike down the healthcare law? Jesus, talk about being a perky pollyana..
The freedom-hating idiots can gloat all they want. They don’t know it yet, but this ruling has woke the sleeping giant. 2012 will be a blood-bath.
First step is to evict our power-hungry, fascist commander-in-chief. Second step is a constitutional amendment. An amendment worked to overturn the Dred Scott case, and it will work to overturn the heinous precedence SCOTUS screwed the country with today.
Let freedom ring.
But the amendment to end slavery didn’t pass until after a bloody civil war. If we have another of those there won’t be enough of a banana republic left to require an amendment to anything.
The Liberals will not put up much of a fight (if any). We have just about all the guns, almost all of the military training, and all of the balls and courage required to vanquish our enemies. A civil war between Conservatives and Liberals will indeed be bloody, but it will also be terribly one sided.
One major liberal-leaning group will and you mention them quite a bit here at UrbanGrounds–the gangbangers within the black community. And they’re quite armed at times.
Yes, the gangbangers are armed with weapons, but conservatives are armed with weapons, intelligence and conviction. Again, let freedom ring and damn loud at that.
The gangbangers!!!???!!! Are you high? Look this redneck can use his guns. I have been practicing since I was eight years old. I have shot a turkey in the neck at a 160 yards down hill free hand. I have done tactical shooting for the last 10 years….no sir, some high as hell ignorant gangbanger will not have a chance with this good old boy. That goes for any pussy libtard as well.
Yes…..it is almost time for a blood bath. I know here in Texas you may want to get out if you are on the wrong side of the majority. Doesn’t matter if you are white, black, brown, red or yellow. We good old boys will stick together and little pony spring hippy deche libtards will be extreminated in mass!
Fuck the SCOTUS…time for Texas to get out of the union.
GOD BLESS TEXASS!!
It’s time.
AMEN NO2!!!
I like this one, too:
That’s a good’un, Robbie.
No2 and Robbie–Love your posts!
DMac–I don’t doubt you’re proficient. But one of you vs. 10 gangbangers is not too good odds unless you have a sub-machine gun.
And while everyone is still fighting over this for the next year your gun rights will be stricken. This is the only area of life and industry the government does not control and with this case of fast and furious going on your rights will be stripped and control of your lives will be complete
Oh, they’ve already been going door-to-door rounding up all the guns. You mean they haven’t been to your house yet?
It’s time to play hardball. The whole GOP response MUST be phrased in terms of what it means to the individual who has insurance now and how that will change. They must talk about the fact that your employers will likely have an incentive to dump their plans and put you on Obama care. They must talk about the fact that two hardworking married parents will be penalized under Obama Care because when their incomes are combined, they will be pay on the basis of their combined income and the government subsidy will be less than if they were just living together unmarried. They must talk about the impacts on the states who when they take on more medicaid patients, taxes will have to go up. They must talk about the difficulty of finding doctors who are willing and able to accept all the new medicaid eligible patients and what this means to your relationship with your family doctor. In short, they MUST get the message out about how this affects people who currently have insurance and are happy with it and how that will change.
We are way past the point of playing nice with our alleged government.
BTW, are you familiar with the person Michael Levitt?
Really? Time to play hardball? How much more can you ramp up the outrage you’ve had for the last 3 1/2 years? You guys are laughable, really.
It’s your side who is always issuing the death threats, fool. Hell, you’re still whining and trying to blame Booooosh! for every pimple on your collective asses.
Actually, I’m lovin’ George Bush today. Mostly for his Supreme Court nomination.
Yes, he made it easy to strike down the mandate and limited congress’ power under the commerce clause.
I just read this very interesting article.
Sorry it’s long, but I think you’ll feel a little better afterward.
I guess things are not necessarily what they seem.
I had not seen this site before.
It’s a Republican site…NOT a White House site.
http://whitehouse12.com/2012/06/28/john-roberts-ruled-against-judicial-activism-and-handed-the-2012-election-to-republicans/
Because it is a tax, it only takes 51 votes to repeal it.
Smith And Wesson stocks rose 16% today.
I love how all these twats now think healthcare is now free. Those who have it will now pay higher premiums and receive less and delayed services. Those without it will be forced to buy it or pay a fine — oops! I mean tax.
It’s time to swab your bores and load up your magazines folks….